I think it's situational, if the site you're going will have more close angles, the phantom's much better. If there are gonna be some longer range fights def get the Vandal also boils down to playstyle too. I normally try to switch it up sometimes. If i am performing well with the spectre on the lower buy rounds, i'll get the phantom. But if i feel a little off with my sprays, i'll get the vandal for sure. The Vandal just feels more accurate sometimes :)
no shit this is why we are comparing both of vandal and phantom because there are situational but what is the weapon you should use for all the ranges you can't change guns mid round to get the best from the ranges and you don't play a specific like I am just gonna stay away from the enemies and use my weapon or I am just gonna push the enemies or shorten the distances you can't do that in your will of doing or you die, I prefer vandal as it supports all ranges not the best in spray transfers but if you have that weapon most likely will your skill you are gonna win
@@physconic3843 why would they make a gun to use in all ranges. that defeats the purpose of even having multiple guns in the game you numpty. Next time you try to flame someone be a little less dense
I main the vandal but still enjoy the phantom. I love how accurate I can be with the vandal. And I can still get off speay transfers. Just not quit as good as I can with phantom.
i know, actually i think vandal has less rng but harder recoil, and phantom has more rng but less recoil, thats why I'm more consistent with vandal so i main it
I wish we had more phantom vandel type choices, like another 1600 smg or lmg or a few more choices
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Something you missed talking about, even though a long-range headshot does not kill the enemy, a headshot messes the enemy's aim so you have time to hit another shot with your bursts.
what i used to do wrong was use a vandal as my main gun because my friends told me to and was still using phantom combos like crouching and all which made me terrible at the game so if you are not good with your one taps you should first try using only sherrif as warmups in deatmatches and range then you should hop in with a vandal but if u cant do that just improve your sprays
Imo, i think everyone takes fights differently, let’s say you’re really comfortable taking fights long range, but you struggle close, i suggest doing the opposite of what you think you’re better at and instead of choosing the vandal trying to get those long range engagements, use the phantom because it’ll help you with close since you are so comfortable taking long, if you’re bad with long but good with short, choose the vandal, i myself use the vandal and it’s been much easier taking fights because i suck at long but short is where i excel at, so i just makeup for my terrible long range with the vandal helping me out
Nice video I would definitely focus on recoil as well, but till now I think best way is how I use both guns. I use vandal on long range with max 3 Bullet burst I don't spam vandal only rarely on the other hand if I know I'm gonna play on short range I use phantom as it has much higher fire rate and phantom is better ik short ranges much more than vandal that's what I found out in my experience
Best way to improve this is to just learn both and buy the gun that is beneficial for your playstyle for a certain map, for example on ascent i'm always buying phantom because i'm gonna be dashing as Jett onto site which will make medium range phantom better but if i'm playing fracture i'm gonna play vandal because i'm gonna play more aggresively with longer angles where the 1 shot headshot will be more beneficial
The only reason why I use the Phantom more than the Vandal is because the Phantom and Guardian is the only gun I have a skin on. My aim feels off when I use the default Vandal for some reason.
actually, the secret most spectre and phantom user have is to make it easy to aim. you can do that by binding your crouch with your left click. it takes 3 bullets shot before you actually do a full crouch which will auto correct your next 3 bullets to be closer to each other but do remember that you will still have to move your mouse down on the 6th bullet. thing about this is its more work a bit longer time to kill than vandal .
That’s a terrible tip lol, why would you EVER want to crouch every time you shoot? Actually nevermind, keep doing it because it makes it way easier for me to kill you
I prefer phantom and tbh those times when u x2 hs the enemy makes you love the game more! Sometimes it's frustrating but you know the rifle you pick and it ain't that hard to play around it's "weakness" especially if you play controllers or cypher or anything that denies vision and let's you push in, cause suddenly there is no weakness but only advantages. Other than that with all the blinds, smokes etc that exist in the game phantom is just better you don't get your position revealed when the enemy team does. Many times i've been called a cheater getting kills through smokes when the enemy just spays with vandal and get their position revealed.
for me it's as simple as if I'm on viper sova or Cypher 70% phantom usage occasional vandal on the rest of the agents vandal more than 50% of the time maybe switch depending on how I'm feeling Ina game
it depends on what agent i play and what map im on, like, if i play sova, i mostly play vandal unless im on a rather short range map like bind, if i play cypher i mostly play phantom bc of the cage the same with omen and his smoke, if i play neon i mostly play vandal, unless i know i will be closer to the enemies
I have to play phantom now. Like I have good aim and have no problem to one tap with vandal. But phantom is just better for multikills and sprey transfer. I just feel more comfortable with it comming from cs.
To be honest, I started playing Valorant mainly only using Phantom for some reason. I got so used to Phantom that by this point, whenever I picked up a Vandal nowadays my aim suddenly drops a few ranks. Now I know why.
Wait it's literally the other way arround though. Phantom gun recovery is 35s and vandal is 375s. tap firirng (fast) with both guns if you let them reset the phantom will always reset faster then the vandal. It would not make sense for a rifle that deals less dmg to have worse recoil reset. Here's how you can look at it: Vandal big pp dmg hard to controll recoil, Longer reset time. Phantom although silenced, Less dmg, Longer time to kill, But easyer to controll and faster recoil reset.
phantom has much faster time to kill because it shoots a lot faster. Thats 350ms recovery time you are talking about works when you tap fire bullets 1 by 1. With vandal you can shoot 1-3 bullets at a time and it'll recover much faster, but in the same time period that you shoot 3 bullets with vandal, phantom shoots like 5. Thats why Phantom's recoil stacks up quickly and even though it has lower insividual bullet recovery time, it has a higher revovery time overall. Even if you tap mb1 once you fire like 2-3 bullets with phantom because of its fire rate.
no, I still counter strafe all the time with it. I would only crouch when I'm committing to a long spam (15-20 bullets) through a smoke or spray transfering
Wait does this happen to people switching back to the Phantom? I notice the opposite switching back to the Vandal. Thus, I no longer use Prime or "pew-pew" sounding skins... anything that significantly dampens the sound throws my brain off and find myself at the end of the round like it's not a Phantom. The bigger the sound the more likely you are to distinguish the difference when it counts after the buy.
Vandal > Phantom. The other day I picked up a phantom on an eco round and dinked 2 people in a 1v3 for 140. I then got tapped on the head by a vandal and died. Give me a vandal any day, and I win that. BTW, this was on icebox A site, so pretty close quarters.
Most of the time I do one tap with phantom, but sometimes it’s so annoying when I short at the person so much times but they don’t die like wht? I have the zoom in on the head to acctuslly kill someone
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Don't be afraid to ads!! Sometimes my aims wonky and I can fix it by using ads for a game or 2. Some times my ads is wonky and I can hipfire a game or two to fix it. The thing I've noticed is that your aim is never consistent day by day. Some days you'll be a beast. Some days, you'll be average.
Whenever I use a Vandal, I almost instantly die. I think this is because I like to aim at bodies for a more easier target. So with the Phantom, I get to spray much easier at bodies for a faster kill.
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Someone said this once and im just gonna kinda repeat what they said. Vandal for long range fights and probably better for attackers while phantom for defending and close or mid range fights
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I just pick the one with better skin lol
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I think it's situational, if the site you're going will have more close angles, the phantom's much better. If there are gonna be some longer range fights def get the Vandal also boils down to playstyle too. I normally try to switch it up sometimes. If i am performing well with the spectre on the lower buy rounds, i'll get the phantom. But if i feel a little off with my sprays, i'll get the vandal for sure. The Vandal just feels more accurate sometimes :)
no shit this is why we are comparing both of vandal and phantom because there are situational but what is the weapon you should use for all the ranges you can't change guns mid round to get the best from the ranges and you don't play a specific like I am just gonna stay away from the enemies and use my weapon or I am just gonna push the enemies or shorten the distances you can't do that in your will of doing or you die, I prefer vandal as it supports all ranges not the best in spray transfers but if you have that weapon most likely will your skill you are gonna win
@@physconic3843 why would they make a gun to use in all ranges. that defeats the purpose of even having multiple guns in the game you numpty. Next time you try to flame someone be a little less dense
@The Ghoulish nah there is cuz the person commenting is being stupid on purpose
I don't think so event in silver phantom user can ding u 2 times about 100m+
Or they just use cheat lmao
switched to phantom some days ago and that was the first thing I noticed but got used to it quickly
I main the vandal but still enjoy the phantom. I love how accurate I can be with the vandal. And I can still get off speay transfers. Just not quit as good as I can with phantom.
i know, actually i think vandal has less rng but harder recoil, and phantom has more rng but less recoil, thats why I'm more consistent with vandal so i main it
@@yuri_lhr vandal has more rng tho. It has the worst first shot accuracy in the game out of any weapon.
@@kah483 No. Also, you don't play Ares or Odin on normal buy rounds anyway since Phantom & Vandal are the go to main rifles.
I wish we had more phantom vandel type choices, like another 1600 smg or lmg or a few more choices
Something you missed talking about, even though a long-range headshot does not kill the enemy, a headshot messes the enemy's aim so you have time to hit another shot with your bursts.
More often than not you still get one tapped back
My aim gets worse overtime when playing phantom because the spraying is so overpowered, vandal keeps me on the edge to try to get those sweet 1 taps
I cant believe you didnt talk about bang. Dude mastered the gun and can seemingly laser people even on long range like on breeze.
I like how this guy actually explains and gives us examples of
what i used to do wrong was use a vandal as my main gun because my friends told me to and was still using phantom combos like crouching and all which made me terrible at the game so if you are not good with your one taps you should first try using only sherrif as warmups in deatmatches and range then you should hop in with a vandal but if u cant do that just improve your sprays
Me who watched too many fishychair videos: Guardian
2:58 Chamber 😂😂
One of most imp tip for phantom from radiant player ofcc - have oni/reaver/glitchpop/protocol or even ion would work
Imo, i think everyone takes fights differently, let’s say you’re really comfortable taking fights long range, but you struggle close, i suggest doing the opposite of what you think you’re better at and instead of choosing the vandal trying to get those long range engagements, use the phantom because it’ll help you with close since you are so comfortable taking long, if you’re bad with long but good with short, choose the vandal, i myself use the vandal and it’s been much easier taking fights because i suck at long but short is where i excel at, so i just makeup for my terrible long range with the vandal helping me out
I just pick up whatever skin is on the ground after the round has ended.
When my aim is pretty well I go with vandal and sometimes on a bad day when aim is just u know then I am forced to use phantom
Nice video I would definitely focus on recoil as well, but till now I think best way is how I use both guns. I use vandal on long range with max 3 Bullet burst I don't spam vandal only rarely on the other hand if I know I'm gonna play on short range I use phantom as it has much higher fire rate and phantom is better ik short ranges much more than vandal that's what I found out in my experience
Best way to improve this is to just learn both and buy the gun that is beneficial for your playstyle for a certain map, for example on ascent i'm always buying phantom because i'm gonna be dashing as Jett onto site which will make medium range phantom better but if i'm playing fracture i'm gonna play vandal because i'm gonna play more aggresively with longer angles where the 1 shot headshot will be more beneficial
i think it totally depends on the map, role, play style, distance wise.
The only reason why I use the Phantom more than the Vandal is because the Phantom and Guardian is the only gun I have a skin on. My aim feels off when I use the default Vandal for some reason.
Cus you’re not confident in your gunplay, lol. Bro really thinks the skin makes him better
I generally like the phantom way more, but when I shot first and trade headshots with an enemy and I die since they had a vandal it sucks.
This is a very handy video for me since I kept dying when I use the phantom obvi bc of the recoil reseting slower
actually, the secret most spectre and phantom user have is to make it easy to aim. you can do that by binding your crouch with your left click. it takes 3 bullets shot before you actually do a full crouch which will auto correct your next 3 bullets to be closer to each other but do remember that you will still have to move your mouse down on the 6th bullet. thing about this is its more work a bit longer time to kill than vandal .
That’s a terrible tip lol, why would you EVER want to crouch every time you shoot? Actually nevermind, keep doing it because it makes it way easier for me to kill you
Ye works if you're low elo. That's about it. Why make yourself an easy target it you can simply Strafe
What rank are you
@@weebsarecringe2102 he wouldnt need this video if he wasnt low elo
01:07 awesome
I prefer phantom and tbh those times when u x2 hs the enemy makes you love the game more! Sometimes it's frustrating but you know the rifle you pick and it ain't that hard to play around it's "weakness" especially if you play controllers or cypher or anything that denies vision and let's you push in, cause suddenly there is no weakness but only advantages. Other than that with all the blinds, smokes etc that exist in the game phantom is just better you don't get your position revealed when the enemy team does. Many times i've been called a cheater getting kills through smokes when the enemy just spays with vandal and get their position revealed.
for me it's as simple as if I'm on viper sova or Cypher 70% phantom usage occasional vandal on the rest of the agents vandal more than 50% of the time maybe switch depending on how I'm feeling Ina game
it depends on what agent i play and what map im on, like, if i play sova, i mostly play vandal unless im on a rather short range map like bind, if i play cypher i mostly play phantom bc of the cage the same with omen and his smoke, if i play neon i mostly play vandal, unless i know i will be closer to the enemies
I have to play phantom now. Like I have good aim and have no problem to one tap with vandal. But phantom is just better for multikills and sprey transfer. I just feel more comfortable with it comming from cs.
so youre saying nats is a phantom master. becasue he is a manace on it. doenst that makke him the: Phantom Manace?
I think the only real question is if you plan on spamming smokes. Phantom is better for spamming smokes. Other than that, purely personal preference.
the phantom has better skins imo but prefer the playstyle of the vandal
Vandal always have had the best skins ever produced in valorant lol
@@bandito4515 not anymore with the phantom neko skin
@@p0n-pompf Lol araxys says otherwise
@@bandito4515 who
@@p0n-pompf Maybe, you're amnesic.
To be honest, I started playing Valorant mainly only using Phantom for some reason. I got so used to Phantom that by this point, whenever I picked up a Vandal nowadays my aim suddenly drops a few ranks. Now I know why.
Wait it's literally the other way arround though. Phantom gun recovery is 35s and vandal is 375s. tap firirng (fast) with both guns if you let them reset the phantom will always reset faster then the vandal. It would not make sense for a rifle that deals less dmg to have worse recoil reset. Here's how you can look at it: Vandal big pp dmg hard to controll recoil, Longer reset time.
Phantom although silenced, Less dmg, Longer time to kill, But easyer to controll and faster recoil reset.
They just spread misinformation
phantom has much faster time to kill because it shoots a lot faster. Thats 350ms recovery time you are talking about works when you tap fire bullets 1 by 1. With vandal you can shoot 1-3 bullets at a time and it'll recover much faster, but in the same time period that you shoot 3 bullets with vandal, phantom shoots like 5. Thats why Phantom's recoil stacks up quickly and even though it has lower insividual bullet recovery time, it has a higher revovery time overall. Even if you tap mb1 once you fire like 2-3 bullets with phantom because of its fire rate.
@@Gravity_304 no you don't. You can tap fire with phantom almost as well as vandal.
I pick guns based on the situations. Short range ,then it's phantom else vandal.
Is it nessary to crouch when using phanthom?
no, I still counter strafe all the time with it. I would only crouch when I'm committing to a long spam (15-20 bullets) through a smoke or spray transfering
Play with Vandal for open maps like Breeze and phantom for Icebox
Wait does this happen to people switching back to the Phantom? I notice the opposite switching back to the Vandal. Thus, I no longer use Prime or "pew-pew" sounding skins... anything that significantly dampens the sound throws my brain off and find myself at the end of the round like it's not a Phantom. The bigger the sound the more likely you are to distinguish the difference when it counts after the buy.
I like to see ppl argue over this while the secret weapon is the Guardian baby!♥
Vandal > Phantom. The other day I picked up a phantom on an eco round and dinked 2 people in a 1v3 for 140. I then got tapped on the head by a vandal and died. Give me a vandal any day, and I win that. BTW, this was on icebox A site, so pretty close quarters.
icebox is the 2nd longest ranged map in the game and even A site is not that much close ranged (There are still long range angles in there)
Bro really called icebox A site close quarters lol. It’s only close quarters if everyone’s on site
I actually use both.. I always use Phantom on defense and Vandal on attack!!..
Phantom fits my playstyle more (playing with out a headset at 3 am and using th quieter one so I don't wake my parents up)
I pick whichever one I find on the ground
I just hope on deathmatch see which gun I'm better with at the time and use that for the rest of the day lol
Most of the time I do one tap with phantom, but sometimes it’s so annoying when I short at the person so much times but they don’t die like wht? I have the zoom in on the head to acctuslly kill someone
its as simple as vandal long range phantom close range example split = phantom breeze = vandal
Phantom only purely based on the oni skin nothing else 🤣
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@@ZoExterminat i think it would be good if you create thumbnails that would catch people's attention. also make sure the first 2 - 3 seconds of your video is the most interesting because most people would click off if nothing interesting happens within that time. Make sure you interact with your viewers, and i think more cuts should be added in your videos or add cool transitions, don't just make it random Gameplay with music over it. It will probably be difficult to learn how to edit in a way that would keep people entertained for around 10 minutes but if you practice with some sort of editing software or look up tutorials you could do it just fine. I will subscribe to you, i hope you make it far man 😊👋
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Depends on map and how many people are alive
the only reason i am playing vandal was because araxy skin, and breeze ofc, thanks god that abomination is gone for now
Vandel when im on my shit. Phantom when I'm a whiff machine.
Phantom is the best especially when you us the Oni phantom
i love phantom but hey im ngl gurdian go crazy
me personally, i use odin
I think vandl is better , but iam forced to take phantom cause i bought reaver 2.0 bundle
So if your not sinatraa don’t use the phantom
W TMV shoutout
Me, an intellectual, using the vandal to run & gun and the phantom for long range rights
Fughts*
Obvious comment here. Phantom is huge for those that don't want tracers for various holds or controllers.
is using the phantom quirky and niche
Help! I only get better aim if I have gun skins by only stealing other's skins 😭
i use both
just because the street fighter phantom exists, i use it
the Vandal's recoil resets faster than the Phantom's recoil?!?!?!?!? i thought it was the other way around
imagine being bound to only being able to use one gun...
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Don't be afraid to ads!! Sometimes my aims wonky and I can fix it by using ads for a game or 2. Some times my ads is wonky and I can hipfire a game or two to fix it. The thing I've noticed is that your aim is never consistent day by day. Some days you'll be a beast. Some days, you'll be average.
What was that Viper doin
Meanwhile Iam getting onetapped in less than a second, before i can even apply any of these.
Don’t try phantom on death match you are gonna get popped once you start crouching 😂
aint no way bro didnt include sinatraa phantom
bro the phantom resets much faster than the vandal idk what u are talking about
who is the girl in 3:50?
Whenever I use a Vandal, I almost instantly die. I think this is because I like to aim at bodies for a more easier target. So with the Phantom, I get to spray much easier at bodies for a faster kill.
It depends of my feelings😭😂
i buy odin instead
ah yes vandal and phanom
Phantom is best 😏
BOTH :3 X'D
but im bad with both xD
Anyone...ANYONE who frowns, complains or comments about adsing with rifles or hardscoping with snipers are just looking for something to blame for getting owned so they don't have to blame their lack of skill
Mcdonalds and Vandal
McDonald’s vs BK a bad comparison Bk is below mid now a days
Someone said this once and im just gonna kinda repeat what they said. Vandal for long range fights and probably better for attackers while phantom for defending and close or mid range fights
Objectively wrong when you consider how many pros actually dropped the vandal for any map. It's not that easy.
The real #1 rule for the phantom: buy oni phantom
So overratted 🗣
@ it’s a joke)
no way people fight over left or right twix 💀i eat it like a kitkat i dont even break them i just munch on them like a normal chocolate bar 😂
bro teabag xD
All your vandal advantages are bs? Phantom recoil resets faster, how do you have better movement on a vandal like tf?
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Me who uses bulldog over these 😂
That’s why your trash
left twix and right twix nobody cares about. coke>>>>>. nobody likes burger king
Watching this after buying my Oni Phantom on my store
I always use the phantom because I paid a lot of money for the odin skin and don't want that money to be wasted lol
All phantom users are secretly gay
And all vandal users are secretly virgins
guardian :))
guardian
What's the big deal?
It's Vandal - You can close the video now. 😎
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Basically same as Vandal, but worse.
6:36 be like dora tho 😭
Bulldog
Who in their right mind pronounces Phantom "Fanum", bro it's fanTom