Regarding abortion: you could object to the idea that a fetus has a particular future psychological profile because of the potential for it to develop into identical twins
@@darth_mb a rough argument: - a zygote has the potential to develop into identical twins and the potential to develop into a single person - each twin would have a distinct, particular psychological profile - in the single person case, the zygote would develop into one single psychological profile => the psychological profiles in existence are different under each outcome, so there is not one particular psychological profile the fetus has the potential to be. It appears to have the potential to be at least two, and both don't have to be actualized. The argument would need some massaging to deal with determinist objections, my strategy there would be to argue that some compatibilist choice the mother makes could influence the gestational environment which could alter fetal development. And I don't think this is the only way that a fetus can develop different psychological profiles it's just an easier case to argue for
@@pika_speed I'm just objecting here to the idea that a fertilized egg is headed for a particular psychological profile (a self I think). I personally don't think there's ever a time when you're guaranteed that a particular future self will arise but I don't know how to argue for that in the general case; basically that ongoing environmental factors in our development play a large role in who we are
There are many lectures on TH-cam , keep your bar high . Take notes the notes are not ment to be read , read your notes occasionally as you revise or reread re/listen to the material . Listen to or read more than once with a gap between rereading/listening . Note taking / diagrams what ever, has a multitude of benefits .
can anyone reference some books or another means that I can acquire more knowledge about philosophy and logic? it’s hard to track the conversation for me right now.
@@daniellance8716 just read SEP for general phil. Russell Marcus has a logic textbook you could check out. Friend named Kane Baker(mentioned in video) is a PhD on TH-cam, has a channel talking about philosophy that can be helpful.
SEP and IEP are probably the fastest way to catch up. Just search up the topics you'd want to learn and all on those sites. When it comes to books, I'd recommend: Knowledge, Reality, and Value by Michael Huemer is good for an intro. to philosophy. For a start on abortion, Dialogues on Abortion by Bertha Manninen is recommended. The best book defending the pro-choice position imo is The Ethics of Killing by Jeff McMahan The best book defending or overviewing the pro-life position is The Ethics of Abortion by Christopher Kaczor And for theism and atheism, I would just suggest reading Alexander Pruss and Graham Oppy. A good intro. to phil. of religion from a theistic stance is the one by Brian Davies. For an introduction to philosophy of religion from an atheistic standpoint, I still think Robin LePoidevin is the best: "Arguing for Atheism"
@@tuav woah that was a very comprehensive starter kit so seriously thank you lol i have lots of reading to do. doesn’t bother me tho i do want to at least have an understanding of what im hearing so im not lost and its interesting to hear so i appreciate it
@@odinallfarther6038 To have a subjective experience just means that there's something that it's like to be that thing. There's nothing that it's like to be a rock
@@pika_speed I don't see why the introduction of a rock . If something that is not a plant but is biological and it responds to touch would that fall within your definition of sentient ?
@@odinallfarther6038 Sorry you seem slow so I'm disengaging. I brought up a rock as an example of something without a subjective experience, because there's nothing that it's like to be a rock, which is just to say it doesn't have a subjective experience.
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Just out of curiosity, what made you start defending the pro-choice stance?
@@tuav friends debate abortion and wanted me to debate it so I got into it.
Lol just noticed the nuclear bomb in his definition: human= egg+ sperm. This means Jesus wasn’t human since there was no sperm😂🙈
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Regarding abortion: you could object to the idea that a fetus has a particular future psychological profile because of the potential for it to develop into identical twins
@@benroberts2222 how does that take away from its potential psychological profile?
@@darth_mb a rough argument:
- a zygote has the potential to develop into identical twins and the potential to develop into a single person
- each twin would have a distinct, particular psychological profile
- in the single person case, the zygote would develop into one single psychological profile
=> the psychological profiles in existence are different under each outcome, so there is not one particular psychological profile the fetus has the potential to be. It appears to have the potential to be at least two, and both don't have to be actualized.
The argument would need some massaging to deal with determinist objections, my strategy there would be to argue that some compatibilist choice the mother makes could influence the gestational environment which could alter fetal development.
And I don't think this is the only way that a fetus can develop different psychological profiles it's just an easier case to argue for
@@benroberts2222 That's only for the first two weeks, yeah?
@@pika_speed I'm just objecting here to the idea that a fertilized egg is headed for a particular psychological profile (a self I think). I personally don't think there's ever a time when you're guaranteed that a particular future self will arise but I don't know how to argue for that in the general case; basically that ongoing environmental factors in our development play a large role in who we are
@@benroberts2222 I just meant that the splitting thing can only happen for the first two weeks
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Y’all are so mean! Good job on abortion. Second guy, Dawn was hilarious…and mean lol😂
@@FlencerMcflensington Dawn is a sophist so don't expect him to be charitable or intellectually honest 🤰
There are many lectures on TH-cam , keep your bar high . Take notes the notes are not ment to be read , read your notes occasionally as you revise or reread re/listen to the material . Listen to or read more than once with a gap between rereading/listening . Note taking / diagrams what ever, has a multitude of benefits .
@@odinallfarther6038 ?
can anyone reference some books or another means that I can acquire more knowledge about philosophy and logic? it’s hard to track the conversation for me right now.
@@daniellance8716 just read SEP for general phil. Russell Marcus has a logic textbook you could check out. Friend named Kane Baker(mentioned in video) is a PhD on TH-cam, has a channel talking about philosophy that can be helpful.
@@darth_mb thank you i’ll read up on that
SEP and IEP are probably the fastest way to catch up. Just search up the topics you'd want to learn and all on those sites.
When it comes to books, I'd recommend:
Knowledge, Reality, and Value by Michael Huemer is good for an intro. to philosophy.
For a start on abortion, Dialogues on Abortion by Bertha Manninen is recommended.
The best book defending the pro-choice position imo is The Ethics of Killing by Jeff McMahan
The best book defending or overviewing the pro-life position is The Ethics of Abortion by Christopher Kaczor
And for theism and atheism, I would just suggest reading Alexander Pruss and Graham Oppy. A good intro. to phil. of religion from a theistic stance is the one by Brian Davies.
For an introduction to philosophy of religion from an atheistic standpoint, I still think Robin LePoidevin is the best: "Arguing for Atheism"
I'm not being sarcastic ! A dictionary will get you far .
@@tuav woah that was a very comprehensive starter kit so seriously thank you lol i have lots of reading to do. doesn’t bother me tho i do want to at least have an understanding of what im hearing so im not lost and its interesting to hear so i appreciate it
What is sentient 🤔 does the feather test qualify as sentient 🤔 ?
Having a subjective experience
@@pika_speed is a physical response to touch a subjective experience ?
@@odinallfarther6038 To have a subjective experience just means that there's something that it's like to be that thing. There's nothing that it's like to be a rock
@@pika_speed I don't see why the introduction of a rock . If something that is not a plant but is biological and it responds to touch would that fall within your definition of sentient ?
@@odinallfarther6038 Sorry you seem slow so I'm disengaging. I brought up a rock as an example of something without a subjective experience, because there's nothing that it's like to be a rock, which is just to say it doesn't have a subjective experience.