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Neuro after dropping nukes on every major city on the planet: "I'm sorry veedul, it was a joke. I was just trying to make the stream more entertaining. Mission accomplished."
So, spoilers for anyone checking comments before watching... What the fuck is up with the Alice twist? She has either been hiding her dot the whole time and her "dad" was okay with it, or Kara was deviant the whole time and didn't want to see it If she was hiding it, how did big guy whose name I forgot find out? Did anyone else find out? Why was she acting as a child for the asshole dad? Why didn't the dad say something like "hey idiot, why did you make a meal for my robot daughter who doesn't eat"? And if everyone else knew the whole time, literally no one else acts like she's anything else than human (unless I missed something, I've only seen this playthrough). Even Markus asks why she's with a human. And why does she pretend(?) to have a fever? And did we ever see another android that wasn't an adult? I've been pretty impressed with the writing I've seen up to this point. There were a lot of sorta forced points of conflict and people not saying/asking things any sane person would, but I get needing those to keep the story going. Alice being an android the whole time and the person closest to her just never noticing or being told is just... insane, in a bad way. Especially Kara having any reaction other than "I don't care, I love you just as much" Jesus christ this single shitty twist is radicalizing me Edit: also Markus's shirt during the confrontation with Conor is stupid. The zipper is upside down, meaning if he takes a long stride or does anything else to stretch the hem of his shirt, it will tend to unzip itself. Unless it's all a hologram or something and isn't even real
Alice is an android programmed to simulate a child, her "father" copes this way with his wife and daughter leaving him because of his addiction. He also is himself convinced that this is his daughter. Kara suppreses knowledge of Alice looking exactly like android model to either follow specific programming (as she was repaired not one time, "father" could've probably ask to make it a part of her program) or just to remove a paradox of treating her as a child and protecting her. Even as a deviant protecting Alice is a core of her personality. We don't know why exactly Luther knows she is an android from the start (probably the same journals) but he tries to talk about it few times. Alice also might be scared that Kara would leave her if she realised Alice is an android. Alice may also not be a deviant from what I remember, she never broke her program, so she has a "fever" because it would make sense for a child to have a fever.
@@nemo53 that guy with a mansion who was experimenting on androids referred to Alice as "it" when Kara was about to shut down so Luther probably seen another model as Alice before or had some database of android models installed, I guess
Luther likely knows because Zlatko was very aware of Alice being an Android. During that chapter, he refers to Alice as “it” and likely said something more blatant when Kara was busy getting rebooted. Luther probably thought Kara knew Alice was an Android until Kara tended to Alice’s needs as if she were a human, thus he brought it up nonchalantly at Pirates Cove. Rose and Adam likely didn’t know because they aren’t rich and thus not well versed in Android culture, so they wouldn’t recognize Alice’s model of Android unless an identical one passed through and sought their help in the past. I don’t like the twist at all thematically speaking, but I’ll pitch my two cents on the things the other commenter didn’t cover
@@nemo53 In one of the scenarios for escaping Todd’s house, Alice is the one to shoot and kill him. She’s a deviant, but she still acts like a child. Unless she has a brain that was designed to be permanently stunted, this makes absolutely no sense.
I think the people that are genuinely upset about Neuro picking bad choices are people that haven’t seen anything of this game before. Trust me, Neuro’s saving you from shitty writing by doing all these choices.
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Neuro after dropping nukes on every major city on the planet: "I'm sorry veedul, it was a joke. I was just trying to make the stream more entertaining. Mission accomplished."
Vedal’s fault for raising her that way.
@Citrusautomaton true, but also it's also the whole alignment problem intrinsic to intelligence with hard-coded goals
you're actually the goat for compiling this. much thanks
"Vedal. Please can we play a different game?"
"I'm sorry -Dave- neuro. I'm afraid I can't do that."
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So, spoilers for anyone checking comments before watching...
What the fuck is up with the Alice twist? She has either been hiding her dot the whole time and her "dad" was okay with it, or Kara was deviant the whole time and didn't want to see it
If she was hiding it, how did big guy whose name I forgot find out? Did anyone else find out? Why was she acting as a child for the asshole dad? Why didn't the dad say something like "hey idiot, why did you make a meal for my robot daughter who doesn't eat"?
And if everyone else knew the whole time, literally no one else acts like she's anything else than human (unless I missed something, I've only seen this playthrough). Even Markus asks why she's with a human. And why does she pretend(?) to have a fever? And did we ever see another android that wasn't an adult?
I've been pretty impressed with the writing I've seen up to this point. There were a lot of sorta forced points of conflict and people not saying/asking things any sane person would, but I get needing those to keep the story going. Alice being an android the whole time and the person closest to her just never noticing or being told is just... insane, in a bad way. Especially Kara having any reaction other than "I don't care, I love you just as much"
Jesus christ this single shitty twist is radicalizing me
Edit: also Markus's shirt during the confrontation with Conor is stupid. The zipper is upside down, meaning if he takes a long stride or does anything else to stretch the hem of his shirt, it will tend to unzip itself. Unless it's all a hologram or something and isn't even real
Alice is an android programmed to simulate a child, her "father" copes this way with his wife and daughter leaving him because of his addiction. He also is himself convinced that this is his daughter. Kara suppreses knowledge of Alice looking exactly like android model to either follow specific programming (as she was repaired not one time, "father" could've probably ask to make it a part of her program) or just to remove a paradox of treating her as a child and protecting her. Even as a deviant protecting Alice is a core of her personality. We don't know why exactly Luther knows she is an android from the start (probably the same journals) but he tries to talk about it few times.
Alice also might be scared that Kara would leave her if she realised Alice is an android. Alice may also not be a deviant from what I remember, she never broke her program, so she has a "fever" because it would make sense for a child to have a fever.
@@nemo53 that guy with a mansion who was experimenting on androids referred to Alice as "it" when Kara was about to shut down so Luther probably seen another model as Alice before or had some database of android models installed, I guess
Luther likely knows because Zlatko was very aware of Alice being an Android. During that chapter, he refers to Alice as “it” and likely said something more blatant when Kara was busy getting rebooted. Luther probably thought Kara knew Alice was an Android until Kara tended to Alice’s needs as if she were a human, thus he brought it up nonchalantly at Pirates Cove.
Rose and Adam likely didn’t know because they aren’t rich and thus not well versed in Android culture, so they wouldn’t recognize Alice’s model of Android unless an identical one passed through and sought their help in the past.
I don’t like the twist at all thematically speaking, but I’ll pitch my two cents on the things the other commenter didn’t cover
@@nemo53 I'm still not happy with the twist, but it's good to see more work went into setting it up than I originally thought. Thanks for the info!
@@nemo53 In one of the scenarios for escaping Todd’s house, Alice is the one to shoot and kill him. She’s a deviant, but she still acts like a child. Unless she has a brain that was designed to be permanently stunted, this makes absolutely no sense.
She HATES it
I think the people that are genuinely upset about Neuro picking bad choices are people that haven’t seen anything of this game before. Trust me, Neuro’s saving you from shitty writing by doing all these choices.
He programmed her to prefer whichever option will be more shocking and funny as opposed to what makes the most sense
@@oufukubinta I suppose trained or fine-tuned would be the more technical term, but you’re right on the money.
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