The backpedalling from Luke on that Seth Rollins take is hysterical. Guy really said "he's WWE's Eddy Kingston, but nowhere near as good", only to claim he wasn't comparing the two, and call people "dumb f*cks" for thinking that.
I am absolutely certain that precisely because he got so much flak for what he said, that he convinced himself that he didn't mean it and meant something else entirely. But if he'd meant "neither of these men feel like world champions despite holding a 'world' championship", he would have said something different.
@@RobertJW To be fair to Luke, that IS his main point. And while I think he was exaggerating last year about the World Title's secondary status, even going as far as saying the IC title meant more, which was nonsense, there was a distinct difference between the World and the Undisputed title. It's just that he ends that point by stating Rollins is nowhere near as good as Eddy Kingston, therefore directly comparing the two.
I understand he chose those 3 words because he was comparing their world title reigns and how underwhelming they were at the time. But he needs to stop calling people who misunderstands him “dumb fucks”
The backpedaling from Luke is hilarious. Says that Seth Rollins is not as good as Eddie Kingston and then calls people “dumbfucks” for criticizing him. If you’re gonna do hot-take engagement bait, you gotta accept the backlash.
But he literally was on a podcast after that episode came out and explained what he meant....And people on Twitter arent the sharpest and thinking he literally meant Eddie was as good as Seth.....When he was just comparing them as champions....Sounds like the lot of people just didnt understand what he meant....But he did word it completely wrong so Ill say both sides are at fault
There WERE HHH return rumors! After his confrontation with Rock at the Mania kickoff show people were fantasy booking that. Meltzer even (incorrectly) reported that they’d filmed a backstage angle to set up a Mania match!
26:02 No Luke. You specifically said Seth Rollins isn't anywhere as good as Eddie Kingston. And people deservedly got on you for that objectively false narrative.
Cant wait for 2025 predictions here are some of mine Ludwig kaiser - Herr Geldbank (mr money bank) Dom mysterio - amazing US run Cena - wins number 17 Finn balor - leaves jugment day R-truth - cena tag win
Mine are a bit different. Ludwig Kaiser: Amazing IC run Dom: WH champ lol Cena: Challenges 17, fails Finn Balor: Mania Gunther Opponent R-Truth: Tag Champ Cena Bron Breakker: MITB, destroys Dom
Cody Rhodes: THE STORY CONTINUES Roman Reigns: STILL NO ULA-FALA Solo Sikoa: MORE FATUS JOINING Ludwig Kaiser: COSTS GUNTHER'S TITLE Gunther: FIGHTS KAISER SUMMERSLAM Seth Rollins: WINS WORLD TITLE CM Punk: YEAR-LONG SETH'S FEUD Tiffany Stratton: CASH-IN ON NIA Rhea Ripley: FINALLY DEFEATS LIV Dominik Mysterio: CONTROLS JUDGMENT DAY Finn Balor: MATCH AT NOAH John Cena: LAST OPPONENT ORTON R-Truth: CURED BY HOWDY
Great ideas got some more of my own Randy: Wyatt civil war Jacob fatu: next big heel Carlito: moonsault by iyo Drew: Ko tag team Cody: Cena crown jewel Rock: kicks out solo Gunther: brutal Ilja Fued
26:02, No Luke, you literally said, of Seth Rollins: "He's WWE's Eddie Kingston... but nowhere near as good!" But yeah, it's the viewers that are the 'dumb-f*cks' for 'misunderstanding'. How can you actively say something like this when there's video evidence of it.
13:35 He meant that Jey would get pinned more than he would win matches in 2024. Considering WWE listed Jey Uso on Raw as having the most wins of anyone in all of WWE in 2024, I think it's safe to say Oli doesn't get the point here
7:57 Made it click for me as to why Luke is so positive about AEW where the rest of us are souring a bit on them. He doesn't think they've been going downhill in quality.
@@fscorpion678 Every metric says otherwise but if you enjoy it thats fine. Theres nothing wrong with that. We all still watch despite having issues with it.
@@BlaqAdam well, business wise they are downhill, yes, but quality wise, I wouldn't say. It's no end of 2021, but gosh is this better than last year (imho ofc)
Arguably Ricochet did go viral for saying that he is the reason AEW exsist “Everything I feel I have done in my past career helped set up a world where AEW can exist. I’m not saying it’s just me. It’s me, it’s The Young Bucks, it’s Kenny Omega, it’s Ospreay, it’s everybody but I’m just saying. Without Ricochet, there would be no Ospreay really. All of the guys are passionate. Without that there would be no AEW…”
Ricochett not going viral even when he left for AEW kinda proves WWE right. He didn't and still doesn't have the IT factor. His wife is more popular than him.
I love the end of year content, love seeing what Oli and Luke predicted for the year Edit: Awesome Truth, New Catch Republic, DIY, Judgement Day, A-Town Down Under and New Day were the teams in the Mania ladder match (I think)
Luke on Seth Rollins- "He's WWE's Eddie Kingston but nowhere near as good." That's verbatim what he said. That's not the people being "dumb f*cks." Might want to look in the mirror on that one. I don't normally comment super negative stuff, but something about Luke insulting people for reacting to what he actually said just irks me.
Give Oli like a quarter of a point for the Jimmy Uso prediction, because him sneaking down and ringing the bell early when Jey had the IC title won was possibly the funniest thing that happened in the company this year lol
Ollie was right about a lot of people thinking it would be Rock vs Roman by end of 2023. Rock had already hinted to Pat McAfee in September. It just wasn’t confirmed until Day 1 2024 Raw.
6:18 If it's revealed that Bianca took her out in November, even if the reveal happens in 2025, Oli would definitely be correct and deserve a point, retroactively Edit: I do see Luke's point about WWE maybe not even knowing at this point, and I do think it's also a fair take - but I'm still with Oli on this one 8:42 Okay, now you're pushing your luck Oli XD
Got that 2x multiplier for Gargano on Smackdown yesterday, plus -1 to Tempest as this second one means heel turn amd feud with MCMG, Street Profits, and more.
6:11 Bianca turning on Jade would make little sense given the context in which the attack happened. The attack cost her her shot at the US Women's Title, and now there is a chance the women's tag team belts will have to be vacated. If Bianca attacked Jade, she would have cost herself not one, but two potential championships.
By the way, The Rock had returned for a segment with Austin Theory in September 2023, so Oli wasn't that far off on the idea that they could have gone that way, thus Cody not finishing the story, which is exactly what WWE tried to do. So he had a point.
28:16 I think the thought process was because when Rock made his return, it was in a segment with Austin Theory and Pat MacAfee was the one who introduced him
Steph and bron i get.. those are names you hear even before i knew what basketball rules were. If you include KD then you probably gotta include the likes of giannis and joker atleast.
Tbf I think on the Seth Rollins bit, it was the "...but nowhere near as good" part that garnered the controversy, unless I'd misunderstood that bit? I even remember agreeing with him in the comments about it lol.
I feel this was premature there is still 3 weeks left in this year so why post this now?? Like the predictions on my card are Zilla, lance, or hikaleo debut and join a bloodline, Jacob betrays solo, and lastly Paul Heyman betrays Roman
"no real push" for Chad Gable, it seems the last 24 hours decided "NOPE!!!!! let's give him a main event match against Cody on smackdown tonight to mess with luke when he recorded this!"
Oli Davis, the sentence is "Il est vraiment, il est vraiment phénoménal (Lalalalala)". Which means : "He really is, he really is phenomenal (Lalalalalala)... Come on ! Put some works into it !!
You mean _another_ streaming deal or are you just not from America? Not being snarky either; Peacock is a streaming service, so at least in the US WWE already has a streaming deal
i think Oli got the Triple H prediction right. after the Mania press conference moment with the Rock backstage, some people started wondering about Trips being the tag partner for Cody.
I would truly appreciate if anyone has an answer for this: I live in Sweden and I watch old WCW Nitro episodes and old WCW PPV's. The network will shut down in Sweden but to my knowledge some countries will still have the WWE Network! My question is does anyone know which countries will still have the network? I an thinking of using a vpn and still be able to watch classic wcw and old raw and smackdown episodes and classic ppv's from the wwf era. If anyone could help I would really really appreciate it, thank you so much in advance!!
I was really confused at 4:21 as to why Baron Corbin was holding a giant microphone over his shoulder
Haha I’m glad I wasn’t alone, I thought I saw that too 😂
It does look like that though 😂
Had to go back and look lol
Now I’ve seen it I can’t unsee it
(Reads all DiY comments)
Um, DiY won the Tag Titles back in July. Did everyone forget that fast?
They held the titles for a month before losing to The Bloodline.
.... I actually forgot 😅
...yes. It was tremendously forgettable. I still don't understand what people see in Gargano.
@@syko2695 you haven't wztch NXT in 2017 to 2019, have you?
@@beurtalvarez Yep, I loved Ciampa. Gargano is the definition of "indie guy can do the moves but is bland af". So is his Mrs, thinking about it.
The backpedalling from Luke on that Seth Rollins take is hysterical. Guy really said "he's WWE's Eddy Kingston, but nowhere near as good", only to claim he wasn't comparing the two, and call people "dumb f*cks" for thinking that.
I am absolutely certain that precisely because he got so much flak for what he said, that he convinced himself that he didn't mean it and meant something else entirely.
But if he'd meant "neither of these men feel like world champions despite holding a 'world' championship", he would have said something different.
@@RobertJW To be fair to Luke, that IS his main point. And while I think he was exaggerating last year about the World Title's secondary status, even going as far as saying the IC title meant more, which was nonsense, there was a distinct difference between the World and the Undisputed title.
It's just that he ends that point by stating Rollins is nowhere near as good as Eddy Kingston, therefore directly comparing the two.
Luke loves to say very dumb garbage for engagement.
I understand he chose those 3 words because he was comparing their world title reigns and how underwhelming they were at the time. But he needs to stop calling people who misunderstands him “dumb fucks”
Eddie Kingston is an enhancement talent, Seth Rollins is a main-eventer. You cannot compare them in any way
No Pete, No Peace. Know Pete, Know Peace.
WOAH!
Tempest is El Generico
This video coming out the day after DIY win the titles is the most WrestleTalk thing ever.
The backpedaling from Luke is hilarious. Says that Seth Rollins is not as good as Eddie Kingston and then calls people “dumbfucks” for criticizing him. If you’re gonna do hot-take engagement bait, you gotta accept the backlash.
But he literally was on a podcast after that episode came out and explained what he meant....And people on Twitter arent the sharpest and thinking he literally meant Eddie was as good as Seth.....When he was just comparing them as champions....Sounds like the lot of people just didnt understand what he meant....But he did word it completely wrong so Ill say both sides are at fault
@@NightLordJagon He's VERY well known to say dumbshit for engagement bait.
Luke calling people dumb f*cks is the most ironic thing I have seen this year
There WERE HHH return rumors! After his confrontation with Rock at the Mania kickoff show people were fantasy booking that. Meltzer even (incorrectly) reported that they’d filmed a backstage angle to set up a Mania match!
Yeah, Meltzer was confused and was reporting on a picture from like a decade ago
Tomasso Ciampa: "DIY Tag Implosion."
Oli: "it's building...."
Me watching this after Smackdown and DIY vs MCMG 😅
26:02 No Luke. You specifically said Seth Rollins isn't anywhere as good as Eddie Kingston. And people deservedly got on you for that objectively false narrative.
Why would anyone be mad at a guys opinion on two wrestlers?
@@thesimpsons17 its the internet, the wrestling community is literally always upset
Eddie Kingston is an enhancement talent, Seth Rollins is a main-eventer. You cannot compare them in any way
I don't get Seth Rollins. His gimmick is stupid, and his in-ring is... fine.
@@dylanmeacham1043 Literally a top 5 in ring across the planet. Modern day Shawn
Cant wait for 2025 predictions here are some of mine
Ludwig kaiser - Herr Geldbank (mr money bank)
Dom mysterio - amazing US run
Cena - wins number 17
Finn balor - leaves jugment day
R-truth - cena tag win
Mine are a bit different.
Ludwig Kaiser: Amazing IC run
Dom: WH champ lol
Cena: Challenges 17, fails
Finn Balor: Mania Gunther Opponent
R-Truth: Tag Champ Cena
Bron Breakker: MITB, destroys Dom
Cody Rhodes: THE STORY CONTINUES
Roman Reigns: STILL NO ULA-FALA
Solo Sikoa: MORE FATUS JOINING
Ludwig Kaiser: COSTS GUNTHER'S TITLE
Gunther: FIGHTS KAISER SUMMERSLAM
Seth Rollins: WINS WORLD TITLE
CM Punk: YEAR-LONG SETH'S FEUD
Tiffany Stratton: CASH-IN ON NIA
Rhea Ripley: FINALLY DEFEATS LIV
Dominik Mysterio: CONTROLS JUDGMENT DAY
Finn Balor: MATCH AT NOAH
John Cena: LAST OPPONENT ORTON
R-Truth: CURED BY HOWDY
Great ideas got some more of my own
Randy: Wyatt civil war
Jacob fatu: next big heel
Carlito: moonsault by iyo
Drew: Ko tag team
Cody: Cena crown jewel
Rock: kicks out solo
Gunther: brutal Ilja Fued
R.I.PETE!!! YOU ARE MISSED!
Where is Pete?
@@sunpraiser96 No longer works there.
@@Ocook2210 oh damn
Tempest is El Generico
26:02, No Luke, you literally said, of Seth Rollins:
"He's WWE's Eddie Kingston... but nowhere near as good!"
But yeah, it's the viewers that are the 'dumb-f*cks' for 'misunderstanding'. How can you actively say something like this when there's video evidence of it.
to be fair, Eddie Kingston is way better than Rollins
13:35 He meant that Jey would get pinned more than he would win matches in 2024. Considering WWE listed Jey Uso on Raw as having the most wins of anyone in all of WWE in 2024, I think it's safe to say Oli doesn't get the point here
7:57 Made it click for me as to why Luke is so positive about AEW where the rest of us are souring a bit on them. He doesn't think they've been going downhill in quality.
cuz they haven't
Well maybe because they haven’t
@@fscorpion678 Every metric says otherwise but if you enjoy it thats fine. Theres nothing wrong with that. We all still watch despite having issues with it.
@fscorpion678 yes they did
@@BlaqAdam well, business wise they are downhill, yes, but quality wise, I wouldn't say. It's no end of 2021, but gosh is this better than last year (imho ofc)
Arguably Ricochet did go viral for saying that he is the reason AEW exsist
“Everything I feel I have done in my past career helped set up a world where AEW can exist. I’m not saying it’s just me. It’s me, it’s The Young Bucks, it’s Kenny Omega, it’s Ospreay, it’s everybody but I’m just saying. Without Ricochet, there would be no Ospreay really. All of the guys are passionate. Without that there would be no AEW…”
Right, so he says in the quote you posted that he doesn't think it was just him lol
If you could PLEASE keep a tally of the points so we can see who got the most points and who won because I expected it and I was fairly disappointed
Wherever you are Pete. Happy Birthday 🎂 🎉🎉🎉
Ricochett not going viral even when he left for AEW kinda proves WWE right. He didn't and still doesn't have the IT factor. His wife is more popular than him.
Yet you're here talking about him and not her lol. And so WWE were wrong to hire him then?? Guess they don't know talent then lol
Luke Wins DIY Tag Win!
DIY implosion........ SWERVED!!
I haven't watched Wrestletalk in a while. Really enjoyed this!!!!
You should get a point for each accurate piece of information. That way, more specific predictions are more valuable than very broad ones.
I love the end of year content, love seeing what Oli and Luke predicted for the year
Edit: Awesome Truth, New Catch Republic, DIY, Judgement Day, A-Town Down Under and New Day were the teams in the Mania ladder match (I think)
22:35 I love this channel so much 😂🤝
I miss Pete
I love that tempest is wearing Pete’s beanie out of solidarity
Tempest's pink nose / cat mask gives me Young Kenny vibes from Phoenix Nights when he gets his face practically tattooed like a tiger.
3 Count is one of my favourite series, and they’re even funnier a year later 😂
I will say, La Knight and Aj Styles was one of the funniest fueds going into Mania
28:57 well done Luke just in time 👏 👏
Well, they did beat Waller & Theory for the titles back in July.
I miss pete
Luke on Seth Rollins- "He's WWE's Eddie Kingston but nowhere near as good." That's verbatim what he said. That's not the people being "dumb f*cks." Might want to look in the mirror on that one.
I don't normally comment super negative stuff, but something about Luke insulting people for reacting to what he actually said just irks me.
Give Oli like a quarter of a point for the Jimmy Uso prediction, because him sneaking down and ringing the bell early when Jey had the IC title won was possibly the funniest thing that happened in the company this year lol
Luke's predictions are the best 😂
Not often correct. But the best.
Ollie was right about a lot of people thinking it would be Rock vs Roman by end of 2023. Rock had already hinted to Pat McAfee in September. It just wasn’t confirmed until Day 1 2024 Raw.
Anyone know why there is a privatee vid in the 3 count playlist? I cant remember which vid that was
I actually agree with Oli on the “it happened in kayfabe in 2024”. I don’t think it will happen, but if it did I would agree.
Pinned > Win was in reference to Jay was there to take the pin for the bloodline.
6:18 If it's revealed that Bianca took her out in November, even if the reveal happens in 2025, Oli would definitely be correct and deserve a point, retroactively
Edit: I do see Luke's point about WWE maybe not even knowing at this point, and I do think it's also a fair take - but I'm still with Oli on this one
8:42 Okay, now you're pushing your luck Oli XD
Bianca was in the ring wrestling when Jade was taken out. She's in the clear.
@@sheafit28 That's... True, now that you mention it... No points for Oli, then :P
Got that 2x multiplier for Gargano on Smackdown yesterday, plus -1 to Tempest as this second one means heel turn amd feud with MCMG, Street Profits, and more.
There was a point in September where I genuinely thought NXT was building an NXT/TNA Wargames and I was all in for that.
Pete... it will never feel the same again... Tempest... I'm feeling nervous now... and these are just predictions not a chronological ranking list...
It’s an alphabetical list
Tempest is El Generico
If we don’t get Pete, can we at least get Sullivan?! Sullivan > Tempest
6:11 Bianca turning on Jade would make little sense given the context in which the attack happened. The attack cost her her shot at the US Women's Title, and now there is a chance the women's tag team belts will have to be vacated. If Bianca attacked Jade, she would have cost herself not one, but two potential championships.
Also Bianca would have had to teleport? Why does nobody talk about this? It’s framed like the attack just happened
@fusionman29 Exactly. I guess she could have had Naomi do it for her, but the motivation still wouldn't make any sense.
By the way, The Rock had returned for a segment with Austin Theory in September 2023, so Oli wasn't that far off on the idea that they could have gone that way, thus Cody not finishing the story, which is exactly what WWE tried to do. So he had a point.
DIY implosion - Oli "They're teasing it"... 😂
11:08 In years to come, you're going to realise Drew "storming out" was a work 😌
+partypoopers1988
It actually wasn't
@@thealjohnsonshow2188 just going to ignore the pic of drew and punk working out their match?
@@bazza656 that's 6 months apart, Drew may have been legit pissed for this return, but water under the bridge, all that
I think next year you should do a point count on who gets mire right
This but no smack down review? L
BRING BACK THE SMACKDOWN REVIEW
+papahenry744
If the viewership was still high, they'd still keep it
@thealjohnsonshow2188 it's the most viewed wrestling show. This is doing any better? Stop it.
@@thealjohnsonshow2188 ^
@@papahenry744 The Smackdown review didn't get enough views, not Smackdown itself
@eoindardis8381 thats cap. It'd do better than this.
Happy Birthday Pete
28:16 I think the thought process was because when Rock made his return, it was in a segment with Austin Theory and Pat MacAfee was the one who introduced him
This was so fun! Cant wait for the reacting to Every AEW Stars 2024!
Technically, Luke got the DIY title win!
Diy won the titles earlier this year already
I think the only cool prediction I made was that they were going to unveil a women's secondary title at some point.
My prediction for next year is that Owen's, Drew MacIntyre, and Seth Rollins form a faction.
Love Prediction Confrontation! Thats a verbal copyright!
i always look forward to your year end videos
Luke isn’t thinking fourth dimensionally about Oli’s predictions
The violent act happening in one year and the reveal happening in another, a.k.a. THE RIKISHI RULE?
4:20 lol Corbin holds microphone
Prediction for 2025: By the end of the year, there will be a wrestle.
For Adam Pearce, they just need to say “Needs A Drink” and they’ve gotta free point!
My inner Chiefs fan screaming about the Kelce corrections
Luke's impression of Triple H is pretty good😂
Poor ol' Tempest, it's tough being the only NFL fan at work 😭
Steph and bron i get.. those are names you hear even before i knew what basketball rules were. If you include KD then you probably gotta include the likes of giannis and joker atleast.
Tbf I think on the Seth Rollins bit, it was the "...but nowhere near as good" part that garnered the controversy, unless I'd misunderstood that bit? I even remember agreeing with him in the comments about it lol.
I feel this was premature there is still 3 weeks left in this year so why post this now?? Like the predictions on my card are Zilla, lance, or hikaleo debut and join a bloodline, Jacob betrays solo, and lastly Paul Heyman betrays Roman
"no real push" for Chad Gable, it seems the last 24 hours decided "NOPE!!!!! let's give him a main event match against Cody on smackdown tonight to mess with luke when he recorded this!"
so ? he lost AGAIN
@@2kLufieriokay? He lost. So? This could just be the beginning of a push
@@2kLufieri still beats just going against the same usual lower/mid card wrestlers every single week.
@@2kLufierihe’s being losing upwards. It’s fine.
Also DIY winning the titles lol
Oli Davis, the sentence is "Il est vraiment, il est vraiment phénoménal (Lalalalala)". Which means : "He really is, he really is phenomenal (Lalalalalala)... Come on ! Put some works into it !!
The little known 3rd Kelce, Steve will debut at mania this year
What about Timmy?
WrestleTalk always delivers with the best WWE content.
WWE get a streaming deal was my big one just seemed odd no big company had one
You mean _another_ streaming deal or are you just not from America? Not being snarky either; Peacock is a streaming service, so at least in the US WWE already has a streaming deal
@subman23 a big one peacock isn't really big in opinion
Y'all should do the same with the 2024 predictions you did for aew
at 3:17 I though Oli actually put his hand on Asuka's shoulder there
Hey Luke! DIY title win happened last night!
They really could have benefitted from a scoreboard at the bottom to track correct results
i think Oli got the Triple H prediction right. after the Mania press conference moment with the Rock backstage, some people started wondering about Trips being the tag partner for Cody.
Canada misses you Tempest 🇨🇦 🤘
30:53 they haven’t used that sign off in a long while unless I’ve been missing something. Hmmmmmm
19:24... Stereo 'Hold up, lemme consider that" faces.
Lmao, not Luke backpedalling on that eddie kingston > seth rollins comment
Small thing but I beg you to update that render of Becky Lynch.
American fresh off of being a public peacekeeper at 0700CST…
.. ooh wrestletalk AND kolaches?! Dope.
Tf you talking about?
heres, to another, a great year of professional wrestling
I love Tempest and Sat - please bring back Sat E Days, even if it’s on a weekday!
Give Pete more money. Bring him back.
"It's building".
Oh, Oli.
Still want you guys to revert back to announcing who’s on screen
AJ styles NXT title run would still be great
I wanted the Ding and the counters! 😢
Luke and Oli's big mestake seems to be thinking Summerslam is an important show still
24:06 Of course, Mr. Taylor Swift (aka *Travis* Kelce) plays American football for a team based in Kansas City, Canada if we're to believe Oli.
Yes but where is oli’s moustache?! What is it up to? Be safe everyone
Yes, Seth Rollins is a 100 times better than Eddie Kingston. And awesome I do like both of them though
I would truly appreciate if anyone has an answer for this:
I live in Sweden and I watch old WCW Nitro episodes and old WCW PPV's. The network will shut down in Sweden but to my knowledge some countries will still have the WWE Network! My question is does anyone know which countries will still have the network? I an thinking of using a vpn and still be able to watch classic wcw and old raw and smackdown episodes and classic ppv's from the wwf era. If anyone could help I would really really appreciate it, thank you so much in advance!!
Tempest is El Generico
I think punks favor is ti get him his main event I'm some way shape or form
R.I.PETE
I been waiting for this!!!!