Thanks for an enjoyable video and the memories. I especially enjoyed the footage of Train No. 4 shot at Streator, IL on 0 6-13-93. I was the conductor on that very same Southwest Chief from Kingman to Albuquerque the previous day. The entire consist of that train was as follows: 518, 250, 1514, 1504, 1565, 1229, 39902, 39956, 34090, 34043, 33005, 38008, 32042, 32043 and IC#1. The IC business car carried IC President Ed Moyers and party. The Santa Fe yard job switched out the IC car in Albuquerque where it stayed overnight and left on Train No. 4 the following day...David W.
Union Pacific 1982 Productions Its not a P5 nor Nathan The horn has the looks of a Leslie horn acouple of more units had it in the #270-280, Its based off the SDP40F horn, Plus #213 is my favorite out of the first order due to it having the horn and it never going through a rebuild unti being a NPCU and it also starred in my favorite train movie
I always got these trains to honk for me as a kid stinking my head out the window of my parents dodge Durango! I was obsesssed with the 40’s as a kid and my parents would call the station to find out when the trains would be coming through so we could go train hunting. They have many camcorder films stowed away of endless Amtrak footage that I need to dig up soon.
Hello Jack! Nice video you got here! Where is part I though? Cool nonetheless, nice to see the F40's doing their thing and the dash 8's! Keep the good work coming brother and God bless. -Don
273 is a pure, perfect F40. It's something they ought to look upon. It would be much better if when the Long Distance Siemens Chargers begin arriving, they all be given P5As with the exact same tuning as the one on 273, instead of those pieces of crap they call 3rd-Gen K5LAs.
"Pepsi can " looks worse in person then on railworks, but phase III looks better both ways, unless it is a p42 then it better be in phase V. I might get a MHC and build my dream layout inside of it.
Not only did that first train have material handling cars it had a luxury train attached to the rear I remember seeing a video of Oprah Winfrey taking a trip on there
Thanks so much! I always liked having a cut of MHCs and other head cars on trains as I felt it gave an extra measure of protection in case of an incident on the rails. Too bad Amtrak didn't keep that business of express...though it my understanding they didn't make much money off it and in fact may have lost money.
Great Work as always! This leads me to wonder, did the material handling cars have BUS or MU cables to carry the HEP current back to the coaches? In some cases the coaches are isolated in the center of the train far away from the locomotives. I'd love to hear any firsthand insight anyone has about this. Thanks!
I worked on the Lake Shore Limited in OBS dept...NOt sure what cable supplied the power but the Mail Cars did have them and we had HEP throughout the train even after adding the NYC section in Albany. I worked there from 92-96 and worked the Lake Shore as well as trains 11,12 BOS-WAS that were the Fast mails. Nothing about them was fast...Big consists of 6-9 material cars and, 2 coaches and a cafe/club or Cafe only. The consist leaving Boston would be 2 (sometimes 3) F40's , 3 material cars, baggage car, Sleeper, 3 coaches and a lounge car, 4 material cars on the end that would be dropped in Springfield Ma. The front material cars would produce enough revenue for the train that the PAX tickets were all profit (so I was told). Back then it was a tired old train and a rolling collection of junk from the 50's 60's and 70's..The only newer cars were the cafes and lounges..It wouldn't be until the 20's until Amfleet 2's were used along with viewliner sleepers...Now the consist leaving Boston is 2 P42's a baggage ,2 coaches Amfleet 2's , cafe or lounge...Things have changed..The 90's version was so big at some stations after Albany we had to make 2 different stops at a station to unload and load the train... I miss working there.
There was an article in a modeling magazine back in the 90's I believe that detailed how to replicate the air and HEP hoses and connections these early MHC's had, so yes, they did have them.
I'm Going to let you know I'm going to make a fandom music video by using some of your videos, and I'll credit you. BTW, Love your videos. 💗💗💗💗💗💓💓💓💓💓🙌🙌🙌😎😎
I wouldn't doubt that MAMP. There has been a good many sound files pulled of my videos. Some ask for permission, some are just taken. Thanks for watching.
Then there's those who just take, but they give necessary credit and are able to admit they don't own it and that they don't claim to, either. (I'm sorry to say I'm one of those.)
@@timf2279 Amtrak did fairly well with the mail and express business. The freight railroads got mad when they expanded into the RoadRailers and started going after things that they considered their business and complained. Then David Gunn did away with the whole thing when he became CEO around 2000. As far as I know the MHCs were good for at least 79 mph, but they used them in the Northeast Corridor on the old "Night Owl" which was allowed 110 mph. That's why they had different trucks under them than other freight cars.
Thanks for bringing that up. I put the link in the notes of both videos for reference to each other. Hope you enjoy both, and looks like I have plenty videos left to make a part III and IV. Thanks for watching... th-cam.com/video/a2lnRteT8SM/w-d-xo.html
Any locomotive engineer will tell you that an GE/Alco will pull harder than its EMD equivalent. The older EMD units loaded faster, but that doesn't equate into tractive effort. Today's GE's, with individually controlled AC motors, continue that tradition. Tonnage ratings and dynamic brake ratings are, without exception, higher for the big AC chuggers than their equivalents at EMD/Cat.
D.J Mattson P42DCs are fuel efficient and have less engine costs to run them for Amtrak. F40PHs were great engines, but if Amtrak had more funding, a rebuild of F40PHs could have been a thing.
4:48 that's a lovely horn right there!
That it is. Just love the sound of those. Thanks for watching...
Frowny13 that's a mixed cast p5
Frowny13 very much agree
@@musicman122_4 the best sounding one, imo.
Sounds like a movie intro
Thanks for an enjoyable video and the memories. I especially enjoyed the footage of Train No. 4 shot at Streator, IL on 0 6-13-93. I was the conductor on that very same Southwest Chief from Kingman to Albuquerque the previous day. The entire consist of that train was as follows: 518, 250, 1514, 1504, 1565, 1229, 39902, 39956, 34090, 34043, 33005, 38008, 32042, 32043 and IC#1. The IC business car carried IC President Ed Moyers and party. The Santa Fe yard job switched out the IC car in Albuquerque where it stayed overnight and left on Train No. 4 the following day...David W.
Thanks for the information on that. I would like to see a business car in use again someday.
4:47 a horn perfect for the 90’s.
4:47 best sounding mixed cast p5 ive heard. It sounds so majestic.
Ok but why is it on the roblox gp40s
@@Kaithelegoguy its too beautiful to not be used 😻
You guys will be even happier to know that I figured out what the P5 actually is.
It's a Mixed Cast P5A with (OC #1, NC #2, NC #3, NC #4A, NC #5)
Same.
F40PHs are amazing!
No offense but I find it funny that a MP36 says that a F40ph is amazing. Once again no offense. However this is so true
Metra MP36 407 also it’s horn when it blows
I really like F40’s so much. One of my favorite locomotives
Facts
4:46 what a gorgeous P5A!
4:48 idk if thats the sound warping of the vhs, but that horn sounds beautiful and harmonizing, like a musical tone
Don’t think it’s warped. Sounds like a mixed cast p5 to me.
@@westernpacificrrit actually is. Amtrak used Nathan K5LAs and P5s on the F40PH
I'm so happy that Metra still has F40s, and I can go see them any day :)
MBTA in Boston still uses some on the Commuter Rail, lots of SD40-2's and then brand new ones also...
rich sheehan sadly MBTA is slowly phasing out the F40PH locomotives and replacing them with new HSP locomotives.
BNKATO too bad the NJT f40s are gone
There's a few left on NJT.
F40s look really nice in a multi-unit consist.
11:02 just lost it after that
LOL, Yah, that will do it. Thanks for watching...
Dun dun dun dun dun DUN DUN
Amtrak 278s p5 sounds like a hybrid K5LA, love it
273
Those old F40 horns are so awesome. The F40 will always be my favorite Amtrak engine.
213 has the best F40PH P5 horn I ever heard! So beautiful!
It sounds like a P5 and K5LA all in one.
Union Pacific 1982 Productions Its not a P5 nor Nathan The horn has the looks of a Leslie horn acouple of more units had it in the #270-280, Its based off the SDP40F horn, Plus #213 is my favorite out of the first order due to it having the horn and it never going through a rebuild unti being a NPCU and it also starred in my favorite train movie
Robert Briscoe / Amtrak Man What movie?
shannon robinson Disaster On The Coastliner
Robert Briscoe / Amtrak Man Thank you.
Essentially a 3,000 HP GP40-2 in cowl wrapper. Awesome and dependable!
Time stamps:
0:05 Amtrak F40PHR 387
2:06 Amtrak F40PHR 414
3:11 Amtrak F40PHR 338-339
4:47 Amtrak F40PHR 273
(amazing horn)
5:42 unknown Amtrak train
7:36 Amtrak F40PHR 306 - F40PH 204
8:41 Amtrak F40PHR 306- F40PH 204
10:33 Amtrak F40PHR 306 - F40PH 204
11:42 Amtrak dash 8 518 - F40PHR 250
13:52 Amtrak F40PHR 295
15:16 Amtrak F40PH 218
best horn ever 4:48
I always got these trains to honk for me as a kid stinking my head out the window of my parents dodge Durango!
I was obsesssed with the 40’s as a kid and my parents would call the station to find out when the trains would be coming through so we could go train hunting.
They have many camcorder films stowed away of endless Amtrak footage that I need to dig up soon.
Engineer gave the camera person a friendly toot of the horn at around 11:00. Gave me a chuckle.
1993 does not seem like that long ago to me, but watching these videos it seems like a long time ago.
Hello Jack! Nice video you got here! Where is part I though? Cool nonetheless, nice to see the F40's doing their thing and the dash 8's! Keep the good work coming brother and God bless.
-Don
Don, There is a link to "Part I" in the note section, "Show more" of this clip. Thanks for watching brother, and God Bless...
jackmp294.5™ Ok. You're welcome Jack. God bless and thanks for another great video.
273 is a pure, perfect F40. It's something they ought to look upon. It would be much better if when the Long Distance Siemens Chargers begin arriving, they all be given P5As with the exact same tuning as the one on 273, instead of those pieces of crap they call 3rd-Gen K5LAs.
The tuning is
OC #1, NC#2 NC#3 NC#4A, and NC#5
Amtrak 273 horn got swapped for a k5la in 1996 sadly
Where is 273's p5 now?
@@lizggil123 not sure
Great job. Reminds me of rail fanning as a kid.
I am a freight loco specialist but I love the F40s
Solid compilation, Jack. Quite the collection. I mean, West Newton at 07:41 I could spend the remainder of my days there.
Nice video. Oh, and I subbed to you after part I. Thanks for sharing. We'll be looking for part III next. Cheers, Dan
9:35 Best horn ever!
That is a beauty. Thanks for watching...
4:47 holy crap that sounds good
I
Miss these Awesome Locomotives 💯👍🏾
"Pepsi can " looks worse in person then on railworks, but phase III looks better both ways, unless it is a p42 then it better be in phase V.
I might get a MHC and build my dream layout inside of it.
My favorite paint scheme
I lived in Indy for a time in the 90's, on my scanner F40 units numbers were mentioned all the time.
2:15
My favorite clip, to be honest
273 has the best sounding horn I’ve ever heard
4:47 nice P5
It sure is!!! Thanks for watching...
That one 4:55 sounded a bit musical
It’s a mixed cast p5a and people confuse that horn with other horns
Gil.k I thought it was a hybrid K5LA
P5LA
Nice vid. Some really great modeling ideas. Thanks.
I do see the odd material handling car in freight car service. Excellent video Jack.
I have seen a few out on the road, but never ready with the camera or video to capture them. Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for watching...
iusetano I saw one through Downers Grove IL about a month ago.
5:00
Not only did that first train have material handling cars it had a luxury train attached to the rear I remember seeing a video of Oprah Winfrey taking a trip on there
Thanks so much! I always liked having a cut of MHCs and other head cars on trains as I felt it gave an extra measure of protection in case of an incident on the rails. Too bad Amtrak didn't keep that business of express...though it my understanding they didn't make much money off it and in fact may have lost money.
Great Work as always! This leads me to wonder, did the material handling cars have BUS or MU cables to carry the HEP current back to the coaches? In some cases the coaches are isolated in the center of the train far away from the locomotives. I'd love to hear any firsthand insight anyone has about this. Thanks!
I worked on the Lake Shore Limited in OBS dept...NOt sure what cable supplied the power but the Mail Cars did have them and we had HEP throughout the train even after adding the NYC section in Albany. I worked there from 92-96 and worked the Lake Shore as well as trains 11,12 BOS-WAS that were the Fast mails. Nothing about them was fast...Big consists of 6-9 material cars and, 2 coaches and a cafe/club or Cafe only. The consist leaving Boston would be 2 (sometimes 3) F40's , 3 material cars, baggage car, Sleeper, 3 coaches and a lounge car, 4 material cars on the end that would be dropped in Springfield Ma. The front material cars would produce enough revenue for the train that the PAX tickets were all profit (so I was told). Back then it was a tired old train and a rolling collection of junk from the 50's 60's and 70's..The only newer cars were the cafes and lounges..It wouldn't be until the 20's until Amfleet 2's were used along with viewliner sleepers...Now the consist leaving Boston is 2 P42's a baggage ,2 coaches Amfleet 2's , cafe or lounge...Things have changed..The 90's version was so big at some stations after Albany we had to make 2 different stops at a station to unload and load the train...
I miss working there.
There was an article in a modeling magazine back in the 90's I believe that detailed how to replicate the air and HEP hoses and connections these early MHC's had, so yes, they did have them.
4:58 ROBLOX HORN!!!!!!!!
What game
God bless
Where was Amtrak 273 recorded?
That was at Carney Crossing, just west of Cresson PA.. The highway overpass in the distance is Route 22.
Amtrak Pepsi Can leading at 11:47
at 1:19 prototype viewliner diner ?
I'm Going to let you know I'm going to make a fandom music video by using some of your videos, and I'll credit you. BTW, Love your videos. 💗💗💗💗💗💓💓💓💓💓🙌🙌🙌😎😎
Could I borrow some of these videos with credit for a video I'm producing?
we just saw a viewliner
4:48 my favorite one
What material did they haul
Awesome video!
I'm pretty sure the horn for Train Sim World: CSX was taken from this video.
I wouldn't doubt that MAMP. There has been a good many sound files pulled of my videos. Some ask for permission, some are just taken. Thanks for watching.
Then there's those who just take, but they give necessary credit and are able to admit they don't own it and that they don't claim to, either.
(I'm sorry to say I'm one of those.)
What's the name of the train that was 20 Cars long
Why do some of their horns seem to kinda stutter?
Knuckle breaking central haha.
Just about every one of these trains had additional cars for hauling the mail. Does Amtrak still have a contract to haul the mail?
From what I was reading it wasn't profitable. Also the MHC had speed issues and limited to 55mph. If someone has more info please provide.
@@timf2279 Amtrak did fairly well with the mail and express business. The freight railroads got mad when they expanded into the RoadRailers and started going after things that they considered their business and complained. Then David Gunn did away with the whole thing when he became CEO around 2000. As far as I know the MHCs were good for at least 79 mph, but they used them in the Northeast Corridor on the old "Night Owl" which was allowed 110 mph. That's why they had different trucks under them than other freight cars.
@@paulw.woodring7304 Thank you for the info
How many cars what kind of passenger car's name amfleets and Budd diner example
Amtrak my favorite train like the 70s the movie silver streak
Is that the Broadway limited
2:30 I want that K5LA so bad.
I do as well. I'd love to put one on my 1985 Mack truck. That would be a blast. LOL. Thanks for watching...
jackmp294.5™ yeah!
jackmp294.5™ can you make a video on your mack?
I might have to do that! We are going down to Wheeling for a truck show on 9/15. Might take some videos then. Might be a good idea.
I like the horn and bell
4:47
AW YEAH BABY
Nathan p5a
Lincon sagardia mixed cast Nathan p5a
p5 combined with a k5la
do u people really have to name the horn i know what it is.
Was that first train the Capital LTD before the Superliner days ?
Could have been. The Capitol usually had a dome in the consist and several other pieces of heritage equipment.
Yes, that was train 29 some time in late 1989 or early 1990 when the American-European Express was attached to the Capitol Limited.
273 p5 has notes c# f g# a# c
This is pt2, where is pt1?
Thanks for bringing that up. I put the link in the notes of both videos for reference to each other. Hope you enjoy both, and looks like I have plenty videos left to make a part III and IV. Thanks for watching... th-cam.com/video/a2lnRteT8SM/w-d-xo.html
I have lots of Amtrak passenger car's ho scale but no locomotive intermountain CN T4 no Amtrak
100th Like!!
EX GO F40PH 2:40
somethings p42 can't do pull all that they need a 2 diesels to do all that that's y I hate p42s
What?
Emilio- I'm with you on that! LOL
Any locomotive engineer will tell you that an GE/Alco will pull harder than its EMD equivalent. The older EMD units loaded faster, but that doesn't equate into tractive effort. Today's GE's, with individually controlled AC motors, continue that tradition. Tonnage ratings and dynamic brake ratings are, without exception, higher for the big AC chuggers than their equivalents at EMD/Cat.
D.J Mattson P42DCs are fuel efficient and have less engine costs to run them for Amtrak. F40PHs were great engines, but if Amtrak had more funding, a rebuild of F40PHs could have been a thing.
P42s are the goat