I still can't understand why Beretta hasn't tried to capitalize on the PX4 platform by introducing a better looking, easier to carry gun with the rotating barrel.
Looks interesting. I would like to point out that any type of locking barrel is not direct blowback. By that logic a tilting barrel Browning design is a direct blowback. Direct blowback is when there is NO locking of the breach like a Walther PPK.
Graham from GBguns has a very simple system to take down the slide of this gun. Grab the trigger guard with your middle finger and pull down on the takedown levers with your thumb and index and asked you do that with your other hand. You pull back the slide it’s actually very easy.
I got a Grand Power P1. I love it. Once the trigger broke in it became amazing. Carry it every day in a holster I designed and printed for it. -PDRoots
I love Rotary locking barrels, from the Beretta Px4 to the Obregon, but I think the Silencerco Maxim 9 with its roller delay and fixed barrel is the coolest pistol advancement I've seen and especially the non-NFA version that could have been great w/o the hoops to jump through. It's a travesty that they didn't release it or that Flux or somebody didn't come out with a Raider kit for the Maxim 9 in any form. Sad it was discontinued before the current era of quick approvals because it could have been a hit. After seeing the Auto Maxim 9s make the rounds on youtube a couple years ago I'm convinced that if Silencerco extended the barrel a couple inches and added a few more baffles along with a nice brace it could be the best PCC/SMG/MP period.
why? I bet you know all of the good ol' Czechoslovakian guns like vz. 26, vz. 58 etc. That little "vz." is short for "vzor" which can be translated to "mark". So for example Samopal vz. 58 means Machine gun mk 58. The 58 stands for the year it was developed (1958). And this pistol was developed in 2023. Hence mk23. That being said, I do think that it's a marketing thing, since Grand Power (company based in Slovakia, part of ex-Czechoslovakia) does not use this kind of nomenclature in their weapons. But I wouldn't say it's blasphemous lol
I've had a few of the Grande Power pistols. I've been pretty well impressed with quality function, as well as the accuracy on all of them. While the rotating lock up assembly on these is not a new concept, it is very well executed in this design . And these are a "duty service" grade tool. Which means it's able to stand up to constant use in training, or combat if necessary. The vast majority of people will likely will never see combat with it, but it is nice to know that it could hold up if necessary.
Hi from Australia , been shooting the Grand power Excalibur 9mm for 4 years now, love this pistol, it shoots great and very easy to strip and clean once you get used to it, love this gun..
I picked up a used Q1 MK23 (compact version). It has the lightest break of any striker fired pistol I’ve ever shot. It breaks right around 2lbs 4-6oz. It’s a hell of a shooter, but because of that trigger break, it’s staying a range gun. Super smooth. Well made, the safety plugs annoyed me at first, mainly for aesthetics, but after shooting it for the last couple months, I don’t even notice it.
I own several GP guns as well as comp and race pistols from other manufacturers. I wouldn’t throw the Mk23 into the fray against steel frame pistols but I’d run it against any polymer frame all day long. I personally carry this pistol because of its shoot ability and ease of control. Their importer, Global Ordnance, produced a rifle, in collaboration, with Grand Power, called the Monolith and it is definitely worth the buy as well.
I have been eyeing this gun for a few years, I really like the rotating barrel and low bore axis that comes with it.. Especially now that it comes with and RMR cut, The only issue I have is that the barrel is non coated stainless, as I have seen some of their earlier ones that started to rust a little, but then Grand Power started melonite coating the barrels, now it seems they have reverted back to raw stainless again, Yes and I can't believe they cant be bothered to change their polymer frame stampings to where they don't have to put that ugly plug in it.. I think if I buy one I would remove that ugly plug and fill in the holes flush with some black epoxy, or have some little plastic plugs 3d printed that would fit flush, Such a simple thing that they could fix so easily without much cost at all, Just don't pump out frames that only come with safety holes in them. Like you said every other manufacturer does it and just cuts the holes in the frames used for safeties only..
Great content as always @Hegshot87! Grand Power pistols are one of the best kept secrets in the Firearms community. You can typically find their products at very reasonable prices, and there are usually sales on Global Ordinance for the pistols.
This is the first series of pistols in a while probably since the p365 came out that I can say wow about, really innovative and the reliability is there the accuracy is there the ergos are there, it’s a grand slam. I love Czech guns cz75s etc. so this really feels in my soul. Can’t wait to grab one some day.
Given that I own three of them, I’m in a good position to fully agree with you even the non-rotating barrel grand power seems to shoot incredibly soft. With that said the only other super innovative, amazing striker fired gun, that’s Paul is the archon type B.
I have 4 Grand Power pistols to easily remove and reinstall the slide you need this from amazon Sniper Table Bench Vise Block for 9mm Handgun, Black 9mm or make it yourself out of wood. The vise holds the pistol makes it simple. Further note the Grand Power X-Caliber Match is outstandingly accurate.
The Q100 MK23 shot faster/return to zero better than any of these I've shot: Glock, M&P, PDP. The accuracy is deadly too, printed 4 rounds through the same hole supported at 10yards. Such an amazing gun at any price
The only thing I didn't hear ya talk about was misfires or malfunction, so I guess their wasn't any.. Also how many rounds did you put through it? Thanks for the review though, good one 👍
I've been through about 8000 rounds on these pistols with zero malfunctions between three different pistols made by these people. They are impressively, well-made, and reliable..
Px4 was the most accurate handgun Id ever owned. It only ate perfect brass ammo. The chamber was so tight imperfect or steel ammo couldn't even be forced in. But for a range gun and placing consistent shots I've never seen anything better. My 1911 in 9mm comes close but it's got the unchangeable war sights
I have a few Grand Powers. Been impressed. Have the hammer fired ones. Been looking at there striker fired. The p11 is kinda sub compact shoots like a full size handgun. They are worth a try. Well built.
This is pretty much the same operating system as the Arsenal Strike One. Which is a great pistol. Being so similar, it would be interesting to have a side by side shoot out and see how they compare. Grand Power is a great company. I love the Stribog.
Swampfox has an optic that has RMSc footprint that has a removable rear sight that is forward of the optic that gives you a rear sight in the event of an optic failure I have not tried one yet but I like the idea if it works well. I have had great luck with my other Swampfox optics
Love me my Grand Power but instead of a 9mm I bought a Grand Power P380 in 380acp ... It's great and I gotta give it to GB Guns for swaying me to Grand Power ... on top of my P380 being awesome I paid a silly price for it from Global Ordnance ..
Not sure if I missed anything, but is the rotating barrel the only thing actually unique on this firearm? Because not only is this not the only gun on the market with that, but really the only advantage that gives is to accuracy. But you could accomplish even better with a fixed barrel like the Beretta example you gave in the video, and the take down process with that is so much easier. And honestly, when it comes to pistol accuracy, you can really accomplish the same groups you were doing with just about any pistol with a tilting barrel. But anyway, glad you are enjoying it, always nice when you are happy with your purchase decision. I personally don't really see much here that interests me to be honest, but that's just personal preference.
So this is a reversal of the lug on barrel of the Beretta Cougar. More mass on the barrel with this design, it appears, to cut that cam groove into it. Does the frame lug and the cam groove actually touch at either end to stop motion, or is excess energy from the recoil and return to battery absorbed by other parts of the pistol? Thank you for the reviews! Edit: My concern is with battering the lug and cam end points which could affect total life of parts which tend to be costly.
"Very few of these companies actually take a completely different approach to a [Browning action]. They might put different features on it or their own features, but it's the same tilting lock action that's been used for a really long time."
Every time a new gun comes up and it's "groundbreaking" or a "game changer" etc. I know it won't be. The only thing different on the 23 is the rotating barrel, a design that's been around for over 100 years. There's a reason tip up barrels replaced rotating barrels. Not once do we see him fully reassemble the handgun. Probably because it's a bit difficult. Having a low bore axis is my favorite configuration and my 3 cz clones of different types give me that with proven reliability. The slide cuts on the 23 are perfect and you've got the whole slide to grasp, where's the CZ you pinch the barrel and many people have trouble grasping the slide. Id like to shoot a 23 but it's too big to conceal carry for me and what are the cost of magazines?
How would anyone compare the grip on this or any GP compared to the CZ75B? I shoot the latter and the grip really fits my hands. Thinking of an X-Calibur. Thanks for the help!
I owned an Excalibur x-trim for a short bit. I just didn't find the recoil pulse to be any better than my CZ patterned guns so I sold it for what I paid for it.
Looking at grand power’s pistol lineup, the Q100mk23 appears to be identical to the K100mk23, except the K100 has a safety at that location on the frame.
Double-to-single action in a striker-fired pistol? That cancels my biggest objection to striker-fired weapons, and that's the inability to restrike a failed primer. I think I need to have a look at this one.
Even the G2/G3 series from Taurus can do this. They don't have a manual decock but if you want it decocked with a bullet in the chamber, you can reassemble the slide with a cartridge in the barrel. And it's still easier to put back together than the crap reassembly in this video.
I hate supressor height sights standard on optics cut guns. I got one, still haven't been able to get a non standard rear sight. The supressor height sights wouldn't fit in 3 of 4 holsters I already owned.
Isnt the famous SOCOM MK23 a BIIIIG pistol ? in .45 acp ? AND! it has an extra thing on it, once you reload, you can fix the slide and make 1, but very silent shot. Or im a wrong ?
If tilting barrels are more accurate by default, why aren't more of them around (especially with target pistols in the mid to high price range, where "keeping it affordable" isn't as much of an issue for manufacturers)? I don't understand why people believe that myth. By the time the barrel starts moving (e.g. tilting, rotating, doing the hokey pokey or whatever), the bullet is already out - it couldn't care less what the barrel does several feet behind it. It _doesn't_ benefit accuracy in any meaningful way. Which is why manufacturers keep building the equally accurate, but simpler and cheaper tilting mechanism. And that's why not more people are talking about it. It's an innovation (well, it _was_ at the time ... "the time" being over 100 years ago) that already died once.
Glock uses a SIG lockup. The rotating barrel is neither new or unique, for example the Beretta PX4 uses a rotating barrel. But it's still nice to see something going against the mainstream
Glock definitely did not invite striker fired pistols. Also didn’t invent the polymer frame either. They use a browning tilting barrel system, and striker fired guns go back to the needle fire system. Glocks only thing they brought in was clever marketing.
The thing about striker fired pistols and Glocks, you don't have to go as far back as to bring up needle fired rifles to have an example of it being done before Glock. There were polymer striker fired pistols already, but Glock can be celebrated for being the first successful / popular design
Glocks innovation, was cutting the weight and complex machining out of the fire control group. He recognized that just because a gun has to be sturdy and contain great pressure, doesn’t mean the controls need to be heavy. Using tiny pressed pieces of sheet steel like in a clock was pretty innovative. M-3 Greasegun used pressed parts, but much larger and heavier.😊
sigh. watching him use that triangle arm position, not pushing forward with his right and pulling down with his left, lets that gun recoil in his hands a lot more than needs be. The amount of bouncing around for the 9mm made it look like it was a .45. The correct weaver stance and hand hold is not the old police triangle hold.
I still can't understand why Beretta hasn't tried to capitalize on the PX4 platform by introducing a better looking, easier to carry gun with the rotating barrel.
The PX4 reminds me of a scubadiving for whatever reason. It's really a strange aesthetic. The updated LT looks better
I’m working on a prototype of something similar
Looks interesting. I would like to point out that any type of locking barrel is not direct blowback. By that logic a tilting barrel Browning design is a direct blowback. Direct blowback is when there is NO locking of the breach like a Walther PPK.
Or an open bolt.
Graham from GBguns has a very simple system to take down the slide of this gun. Grab the trigger guard with your middle finger and pull down on the takedown levers with your thumb and index and asked you do that with your other hand. You pull back the slide it’s actually very easy.
Takedown of my K100 mk12 has never been an issue. It’s the reassembly that causes my cursing 😅
When reviewing black guns, might want to not wear a black shirt.
Great advice
White or light grey.
There was a gun? what gun?
What other color shirt is there?
BSM...Black Shirts Matter!
I love all of my Grand Power pistols.
I got a Grand Power P1. I love it. Once the trigger broke in it became amazing. Carry it every day in a holster I designed and printed for it.
-PDRoots
I love Rotary locking barrels, from the Beretta Px4 to the Obregon, but I think the Silencerco Maxim 9 with its roller delay and fixed barrel is the coolest pistol advancement I've seen and especially the non-NFA version that could have been great w/o the hoops to jump through. It's a travesty that they didn't release it or that Flux or somebody didn't come out with a Raider kit for the Maxim 9 in any form. Sad it was discontinued before the current era of quick approvals because it could have been a hit. After seeing the Auto Maxim 9s make the rounds on youtube a couple years ago I'm convinced that if Silencerco extended the barrel a couple inches and added a few more baffles along with a nice brace it could be the best PCC/SMG/MP period.
Calling it the MK 23 is blasphemous.
100%
why? I bet you know all of the good ol' Czechoslovakian guns like vz. 26, vz. 58 etc. That little "vz." is short for "vzor" which can be translated to "mark". So for example Samopal vz. 58 means Machine gun mk 58. The 58 stands for the year it was developed (1958).
And this pistol was developed in 2023. Hence mk23.
That being said, I do think that it's a marketing thing, since Grand Power (company based in Slovakia, part of ex-Czechoslovakia) does not use this kind of nomenclature in their weapons. But I wouldn't say it's blasphemous lol
@@ZpicismradBecause the Mk23 is dedicated to the HK Mk23 Mod 0 since the 90’s and is iconic.
Everybody wants splinter cell fame...come on
You're right, that's no torpedo
I've had a few of the Grande Power pistols. I've been pretty well impressed with quality function, as well as the accuracy on all of them.
While the rotating lock up assembly on these is not a new concept, it is very well executed in this design . And these are a "duty service" grade tool. Which means it's able to stand up to constant use in training, or combat if necessary. The vast majority of people will likely will never see combat with it, but it is nice to know that it could hold up if necessary.
Glad to see more people looking at theses.
Hopefully some holster companies will pay attention
@@selfreliance1014 I use sig p320 holster for G-P, just try it
Hi from Australia , been shooting the Grand power Excalibur 9mm for 4 years now, love this pistol, it shoots great and very easy to strip and clean once you get used to it, love this gun..
I picked up a used Q1 MK23 (compact version). It has the lightest break of any striker fired pistol I’ve ever shot. It breaks right around 2lbs 4-6oz. It’s a hell of a shooter, but because of that trigger break, it’s staying a range gun. Super smooth. Well made, the safety plugs annoyed me at first, mainly for aesthetics, but after shooting it for the last couple months, I don’t even notice it.
I own several GP guns as well as comp and race pistols from other manufacturers. I wouldn’t throw the Mk23 into the fray against steel frame pistols but I’d run it against any polymer frame all day long. I personally carry this pistol because of its shoot ability and ease of control. Their importer, Global Ordnance, produced a rifle, in collaboration, with Grand Power, called the Monolith and it is definitely worth the buy as well.
I have been eyeing this gun for a few years, I really like the rotating barrel and low bore axis that comes with it.. Especially now that it comes with and RMR cut, The only issue I have is that the barrel is non coated stainless, as I have seen some of their earlier ones that started to rust a little, but then Grand Power started melonite coating the barrels, now it seems they have reverted back to raw stainless again, Yes and I can't believe they cant be bothered to change their polymer frame stampings to where they don't have to put that ugly plug in it.. I think if I buy one I would remove that ugly plug and fill in the holes flush with some black epoxy, or have some little plastic plugs 3d printed that would fit flush, Such a simple thing that they could fix so easily without much cost at all, Just don't pump out frames that only come with safety holes in them. Like you said every other manufacturer does it and just cuts the holes in the frames used for safeties only..
Great content as always @Hegshot87! Grand Power pistols are one of the best kept secrets in the Firearms community. You can typically find their products at very reasonable prices, and there are usually sales on Global Ordinance for the pistols.
I have original mk12 model and I'm somewhat responsible for.flat trigger and shorter reset on this gun.
Toured factory as well.
@Baldcurious congratulations, flat triggers on a pivoting trigger is aids that has infected the gun world.
I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it.
Your comments are as AI sounding as your videos. Begone bot!
@@timblack131 yeah it just repeated the title of this video lol. stupid bots
This isn’t direct blowback, it’s got a rotating barrel
This is the first series of pistols in a while probably since the p365 came out that I can say wow about, really innovative and the reliability is there the accuracy is there the ergos are there, it’s a grand slam. I love Czech guns cz75s etc. so this really feels in my soul. Can’t wait to grab one some day.
Have and older version of this. Shoots like the Beretta PX4 but I think the ergos on the Q1 are better. Love it.
Given that I own three of them, I’m in a good position to fully agree with you even the non-rotating barrel grand power seems to shoot incredibly soft. With that said the only other super innovative, amazing striker fired gun, that’s Paul is the archon type B.
You need to what GBGuns, he has been covering the Grand Power pistols for a while.
I have 4 Grand Power pistols to easily remove and reinstall the slide you need this from amazon Sniper Table Bench Vise Block for 9mm Handgun, Black 9mm or make it yourself out of wood. The vise holds the pistol makes it simple. Further note the Grand Power X-Caliber Match is outstandingly accurate.
The Q100 MK23 shot faster/return to zero better than any of these I've shot: Glock, M&P, PDP. The accuracy is deadly too, printed 4 rounds through the same hole supported at 10yards. Such an amazing gun at any price
This is one of the best reviews of a firearm I have seen on TH-cam. Really good detail but interesting and engaging presentation. Great job!
The only thing I didn't hear ya talk about was misfires or malfunction, so I guess their wasn't any.. Also how many rounds did you put through it? Thanks for the review though, good one 👍
I've been through about 8000 rounds on these pistols with zero malfunctions between three different pistols made by these people. They are impressively, well-made, and reliable..
@@CB-68-westcreations That's impressive! Thanks for the info
assembler's initials aren't "Personal Touch"... they are Accountability!! lol
I wish more people knew about Grand Power, it's great and what we need more of
On the other hand, I want it to remain a niche for people who know
If you like it, you should try the PX4 from LTT😉, from what I’ve heard
Px4 was the most accurate handgun Id ever owned. It only ate perfect brass ammo. The chamber was so tight imperfect or steel ammo couldn't even be forced in. But for a range gun and placing consistent shots I've never seen anything better. My 1911 in 9mm comes close but it's got the unchangeable war sights
Awesome review 👍
I have a few Grand Powers. Been impressed. Have the hammer fired ones. Been looking at there striker fired. The p11 is kinda sub compact shoots like a full size handgun. They are worth a try. Well built.
This is pretty much the same operating system as the Arsenal Strike One. Which is a great pistol. Being so similar, it would be interesting to have a side by side shoot out and see how they compare. Grand Power is a great company. I love the Stribog.
Swampfox has an optic that has RMSc footprint that has a removable rear sight that is forward of the optic that gives you a rear sight in the event of an optic failure I have not tried one yet but I like the idea if it works well. I have had great luck with my other Swampfox optics
That is not a straight blow design if I heard what you state correctly. It is short recoil operated.
Love me my Grand Power but instead of a 9mm I bought a Grand Power P380 in 380acp ... It's great and I gotta give it to GB Guns for swaying me to Grand Power ... on top of my P380 being awesome I paid a silly price for it from Global Ordnance ..
Not sure if I missed anything, but is the rotating barrel the only thing actually unique on this firearm? Because not only is this not the only gun on the market with that, but really the only advantage that gives is to accuracy. But you could accomplish even better with a fixed barrel like the Beretta example you gave in the video, and the take down process with that is so much easier. And honestly, when it comes to pistol accuracy, you can really accomplish the same groups you were doing with just about any pistol with a tilting barrel. But anyway, glad you are enjoying it, always nice when you are happy with your purchase decision. I personally don't really see much here that interests me to be honest, but that's just personal preference.
So this is a reversal of the lug on barrel of the Beretta Cougar. More mass on the barrel with this design, it appears, to cut that cam groove into it. Does the frame lug and the cam groove actually touch at either end to stop motion, or is excess energy from the recoil and return to battery absorbed by other parts of the pistol?
Thank you for the reviews!
Edit: My concern is with battering the lug and cam end points which could affect total life of parts which tend to be costly.
Q100 is also available, at least here in Europe, with the manual safety in both sides.
A bit nicer look at least.
The name "grand power, x-caliber match MK23" sounds like a roster 1980's metal band titles.
Looks like a combo of a Beretta Cx4 inside of a Beretta APX.
Bergman system is cool and innovative. rotating barrels have been around for a while.
The Beretta CX-4 is a pistol caliber carbine
"Very few of these companies actually take a completely different approach to a [Browning action]. They might put different features on it or their own features, but it's the same tilting lock action that's been used for a really long time."
I prefer rotating barrels but you just don't see a lot of them outside of Beretta px4's.
Info: Baretta PX 4 had the rotating barrel since (2004). Was/Is used in a few States in USA.
Every time a new gun comes up and it's "groundbreaking" or a "game changer" etc. I know it won't be. The only thing different on the 23 is the rotating barrel, a design that's been around for over 100 years. There's a reason tip up barrels replaced rotating barrels. Not once do we see him fully reassemble the handgun. Probably because it's a bit difficult. Having a low bore axis is my favorite configuration and my 3 cz clones of different types give me that with proven reliability. The slide cuts on the 23 are perfect and you've got the whole slide to grasp, where's the CZ you pinch the barrel and many people have trouble grasping the slide. Id like to shoot a 23 but it's too big to conceal carry for me and what are the cost of magazines?
I have the P1 MK23. Very accurate!!!!
Rotating barrel just like the hammer fired GP100, sick.
GPs are so slept on and the brand loyalists are so missing out.
They do not have this brand in my local shops. I do not shop online for fire arms only exception was the psa micro dagger
Now you NEED to review a hammer fired Grand Power, that is where the men come apart from the boys.
I've wanted to try out this pistol ever since I saw it in a video from ShotShow.
How would anyone compare the grip on this or any GP compared to the CZ75B? I shoot the latter and the grip really fits my hands. Thinking of an X-Calibur. Thanks for the help!
I owned an Excalibur x-trim for a short bit. I just didn't find the recoil pulse to be any better than my CZ patterned guns so I sold it for what I paid for it.
That's the way that the HIPOINT pistols are put back together.
those slide cuts look alot like the original beretta apx
Why would you not carry it, with a 3.7 barrel? Size trigger?
High bore axis too low. Why didn’t they raise the beaver tail since it’s not DA/SA after all? Like the rotating barrel though. 👍😊
The Archon type B is innovative as well, and GTers don't talk about that either.
Is there magazine extensions available?
The Berreta ARX had similar cuts
I think due pricing lately, the only thing that can hold a firearm back right now is just price.
The Wildebeest pistol is really "out of the box"! Check that out.
Looking at grand power’s pistol lineup, the Q100mk23 appears to be identical to the K100mk23, except the K100 has a safety at that location on the frame.
And it has a hammer.
That and the fact that the K100 is hammer fired while the Q is a striker.
I have a grand power excalibur, i dont shoot it as much as i should. Its a really great gun, just switch to g34 for "competition" gun.
Im guessing they dont understand how the mark system works, unless they made 22 versions befor this one that are major changes from the last.
I've never even heard of this gun but I wanna try one now
I got an Excalibur. Love the feel of it.
Double-to-single action in a striker-fired pistol? That cancels my biggest objection to striker-fired weapons, and that's the inability to restrike a failed primer. I think I need to have a look at this one.
Even the G2/G3 series from Taurus can do this. They don't have a manual decock but if you want it decocked with a bullet in the chamber, you can reassemble the slide with a cartridge in the barrel. And it's still easier to put back together than the crap reassembly in this video.
try a beretta PX4 storm I think you will like it ,,,, I do
That's a bit difficult to take apart and get back together, but an interesting action.
Might have to add one to my collection.
I’m thinking the same
How many rounds in the larger frame/bbl. mags?
Respectfully, Seth
I hate supressor height sights standard on optics cut guns. I got one, still haven't been able to get a non standard rear sight. The supressor height sights wouldn't fit in 3 of 4 holsters I already owned.
That safety plug reminds me of the imported tokarevs..
How many rounds in the magazine?
Definitely a contender for anyone serious about firearms.
Isnt the famous SOCOM MK23 a BIIIIG pistol ? in .45 acp ? AND! it has an extra thing on it, once you reload, you can fix the slide and make 1, but very silent shot. Or im a wrong ?
What was the biggest takeaway about the q1?
Isn't this, basically, the same design as the px4 storm?
Just as a striker fired instead of hammer fired.
FN reflex has an awesome internal hammer 🔨 and mine shoots great 👍
I don’t pull the takedown prongs on reassembly
The Teardown and reassembly of this gun is a deal breaker for me.
If tilting barrels are more accurate by default, why aren't more of them around (especially with target pistols in the mid to high price range, where "keeping it affordable" isn't as much of an issue for manufacturers)?
I don't understand why people believe that myth. By the time the barrel starts moving (e.g. tilting, rotating, doing the hokey pokey or whatever), the bullet is already out - it couldn't care less what the barrel does several feet behind it.
It _doesn't_ benefit accuracy in any meaningful way. Which is why manufacturers keep building the equally accurate, but simpler and cheaper tilting mechanism.
And that's why not more people are talking about it. It's an innovation (well, it _was_ at the time ... "the time" being over 100 years ago) that already died once.
Thank you for reviewing this handgun. Do you know what type of warranty this comes with? I looked at the web site but could not find out.
lifetime
Glock uses a SIG lockup. The rotating barrel is neither new or unique, for example the Beretta PX4 uses a rotating barrel. But it's still nice to see something going against the mainstream
Glock definitely did not invite striker fired pistols. Also didn’t invent the polymer frame either. They use a browning tilting barrel system, and striker fired guns go back to the needle fire system. Glocks only thing they brought in was clever marketing.
The thing about striker fired pistols and Glocks, you don't have to go as far back as to bring up needle fired rifles to have an example of it being done before Glock.
There were polymer striker fired pistols already, but Glock can be celebrated for being the first successful / popular design
Stay mad
Glocks innovation, was cutting the weight and complex machining out of the fire control group. He recognized that just because a gun has to be sturdy and contain great pressure, doesn’t mean the controls need to be heavy. Using tiny pressed pieces of sheet steel like in a clock was pretty innovative. M-3 Greasegun used pressed parts, but much larger and heavier.😊
But keep it like that, honest history.
I would just buy a Px4 if I wanted the rotating barrel design. That's probably what most people think.
I thought about getting a GP a few years ago but I couldn't find any holsters for it and mags seemed scarce
It looks like it has a lot of muzzle flip honestly., it's a great shooter but slow for fast follow up
I like it a lot. Think I'll see about getting one.
I'll never even consider another grand power product after the way they treat their earlier version stribog customers.
this reminds me of the bretta storm Px4
Glock perfected striker fired handguns ?
You couldn't give me another striker-fired ball-blaster.
If you think this pistol is an advancement, you should get your hands on an Archon from PTR.
Someone other than GB Guns talking about Grand Power
After GP's debacle with the Stribog, i am going to wait and see. No way I would buy an early version.
Need to make that in 10mm!
Ty bud , kind of reminds me of XDM
I’ve got the P11. Just awesome.
well its no lugo alien with ultra low bore over trigger
sigh. watching him use that triangle arm position, not pushing forward with his right and pulling down with his left, lets that gun recoil in his hands a lot more than needs be. The amount of bouncing around for the 9mm made it look like it was a .45. The correct weaver stance and hand hold is not the old police triangle hold.