thank you SO MUCH! You are the only one i've seen to mention "rendering" the tracks down. I was SO CONFUSED watching other people's videos, not understanding how these levels were going to translate to the audio. Everyone kept writing "Auto" without clarifying that it wasn't a completely automated process... I've been looking at other people's videos for like 3 hours because I thought people were failing to disclose that the script was going to resolve the renders at the end of the process.
You're welcome! Technically you don't have to render, but I find that it's the most straight forward way. Once you gain stage a track you really aren't/shouldn't be going back to mess with it. What happens is after you hit auto and play through, the plugin controls the gain of the track, similar to what would happen if you put JS: Volume Adjustment on the track and make a manual adjustment. I think people tend to get confused and delete the plugin off after running through, which removes the gain staging. I find rendering takes out all the confusion, and frees up an fx slot as well. Glad this helped!
Also, it looks like you're using Reaper, you should set up a default project template with that FX chain in all the channels, so you don't have to add them every time, you can just load the default track template whenever you start a new project and they'll all be there
Your explanation of how this plugin works is excellent. I couldn't really understand what the Hornet guys were saying, but you made it so simple for me. Thanks. Subscribed.
@@HiTH-camImDad oh! Well You’re welcome! HoRNet stuff is supremely cool. They got some Buzz recently after White Sea studios reviewed their EQ and gave it really good ratings. I assumed that was how you found out. :)
@@EricOehler01 Nope I think you made a comment on my first gain staging video then I talked to you about it...that was right around the time the masters were getting finished up. Thanks again for both!
How this thing works I had on every time I turn on AUTO it works only with the window open on the screen but I soon I close it I had to turn it on again on auto .??? I had the vu meter meter mk4
You can do that, or you can render the tracks which will write the new gain to the track as is. If you do this, make sure you keep the faders at 0/unity gain.
Does this help? This seems like it will make gain staging much faster. Note that this isn't a paid video, I spent $7.21 on HorNet from my own hard earned money!
Hi, thanks for tutorial. Interesting. Hornet have plugin called Lfu meter, and normaliser, do you know if Vu meter I still applicable if I already own those 2? My goal is like your video, auto gain staging. Thanks
I haven't used either, so unfortunately I can't comment. If LFU meter does gain staging then this could work, but I believe the normaliser would not do the same things.
I prefer rendering to freezing at this point. I save to a different project file to make sure I can always go back, but I should never have a reason to go back to the original files once gain staged, so I choose to render to a new file.
Is the confusion around how to use it or why you should be using it? For why, there's a lot of info there, but you want your tracks to not be too hot, but be loud enough to use. Some plugins have a "sweet spot" at -18dbfs. For how, load the plugin on a track, set your reference, max, and target (try the defaults to start), then click the AUTO button in the upper right. Then play the track at the loudest section in the song. It will automatically adjust the gain to the parameters. When you hit stop, the AUTO will turn off, and the gain is set. You can then mix from there, leaving the plugin at the top of the chain, or do what I do and render the tracks out to new tracks which writes the new gain to the tracks. Hope this helps, if not, let me know!
thank you SO MUCH! You are the only one i've seen to mention "rendering" the tracks down.
I was SO CONFUSED watching other people's videos, not understanding how these levels were going to translate to the audio. Everyone kept writing "Auto" without clarifying that it wasn't a completely automated process... I've been looking at other people's videos for like 3 hours because I thought people were failing to disclose that the script was going to resolve the renders at the end of the process.
You're welcome! Technically you don't have to render, but I find that it's the most straight forward way. Once you gain stage a track you really aren't/shouldn't be going back to mess with it. What happens is after you hit auto and play through, the plugin controls the gain of the track, similar to what would happen if you put JS: Volume Adjustment on the track and make a manual adjustment. I think people tend to get confused and delete the plugin off after running through, which removes the gain staging. I find rendering takes out all the confusion, and frees up an fx slot as well. Glad this helped!
You clearly watched the wrong videos then..damn 3 hours?
Also, it looks like you're using Reaper, you should set up a default project template with that FX chain in all the channels, so you don't have to add them every time, you can just load the default track template whenever you start a new project and they'll all be there
Your explanation of how this plugin works is excellent. I couldn't really understand what the Hornet guys were saying, but you made it so simple for me. Thanks. Subscribed.
Thank you, appreciate it, and welcome aboard!
I use this on every channel strip. It’s a godsend.
I picked it up after you told me about it. Yeah, way easier than any other method. Thanks for telling me about it!
@@HiTH-camImDad oh! Well
You’re welcome!
HoRNet stuff is supremely cool. They got some
Buzz recently after White Sea studios reviewed their EQ and gave it really good ratings. I assumed that was how you found out. :)
@@EricOehler01 Nope I think you made a comment on my first gain staging video then I talked to you about it...that was right around the time the masters were getting finished up. Thanks again for both!
How this thing works I had on every time I turn on AUTO it works only with the window open on the screen but I soon I close it I had to turn it on again on auto .??? I had the vu meter meter mk4
@@jcalzada74 you don’t want to keep the auto on - it’s just for setting a level once (or adjusting later).
thanks for the insights, plugin is on sale and I was looking for good reviews...found one!
im a bit confused on their site is it 2.40 or 240 pound? (sale)
@@akosiniroh idk for sure how it is costing right now but I can guarantee you it is not 240 haha
Plus they have a LOT of sales, so you can get it for 40 - 50% off
Oh boy! Level 2!!!
Thank you!
So we have to use that HoRnet plugin jus5 as you show here and "forget it there", right?
You can do that, or you can render the tracks which will write the new gain to the track as is. If you do this, make sure you keep the faders at 0/unity gain.
Negative 18 is what the rms level of the signal coming in should be. So it wouldn't be the peak at -18.
Yeah, as I realized later, drums are harder to handle because they are almost all peaks.
Does this help? This seems like it will make gain staging much faster. Note that this isn't a paid video, I spent $7.21 on HorNet from my own hard earned money!
Hi, thanks for tutorial. Interesting. Hornet have plugin called Lfu meter, and normaliser, do you know if Vu meter I still applicable if I already own those 2? My goal is like your video, auto gain staging. Thanks
I haven't used either, so unfortunately I can't comment. If LFU meter does gain staging then this could work, but I believe the normaliser would not do the same things.
I’m learning to mix, After the plugin auto gain staged the track, is it good idea to freeze it? Thanks
I prefer rendering to freezing at this point. I save to a different project file to make sure I can always go back, but I should never have a reason to go back to the original files once gain staged, so I choose to render to a new file.
its on sale man! 2.40 euros! thanks for this gonna buy it! how is it treating you brother?
I recorded this video almost 2 weeks ago, so it figures the price would change. It's still worth it. I would pay $50 for this one for sure.
Admittedly, I'm still confused as to how exactly to use it correctly 😖
Is the confusion around how to use it or why you should be using it? For why, there's a lot of info there, but you want your tracks to not be too hot, but be loud enough to use. Some plugins have a "sweet spot" at -18dbfs. For how, load the plugin on a track, set your reference, max, and target (try the defaults to start), then click the AUTO button in the upper right. Then play the track at the loudest section in the song. It will automatically adjust the gain to the parameters. When you hit stop, the AUTO will turn off, and the gain is set. You can then mix from there, leaving the plugin at the top of the chain, or do what I do and render the tracks out to new tracks which writes the new gain to the tracks. Hope this helps, if not, let me know!