I'm CBCS all the way. Good to see the support for them in the comments. I feel anyone who knows goes with them. They said this can be done better and they have.
I've been a subscriber of yours now for about 3 months and I've got to say you are most definitely the most informative person on TH-cam about comic collecting. Keep up the outstanding work!
Am a Old Time Collector that's been out for a while & thinking of sending some books. You Cleared up the CGC vs. CBCS for me.... that had been my thoughts a few years ago & it seems it's Still that way today.... Thanks!
I appreciate the comparison between the two I do both. Both companies have their pros and cons i actually dont mind CBCS labels and i like their sig verification and they also have a raw graded service which cgc dont offer for you know the small subset of collectors that want to still read their graded copy.
Hurricane season my books go to CBCS since it's located in the middle of Texas which means no further delays due to a Tropical storm/Hurricane, I live in Texas sometimes it's more economical to make the drive to drop-off/pick up my books than to ship to FL (which also gives me peace of mind).
This is one of those things all of us collectors think about but never get around to finding out. Smalls you bring knowledge to us all and I appreciate it man. Keep doing your thing!
I've used both companies and CBCS def has more stricter grading standards. CGC tends to be slightly more leniant on their end making it more favorable for a seller to use. CGC has been around for awhile so I see a lot of collectors tend to gravitate towards them. But dont overlook CBCS, their late to the party but their out there making moves!
I have been saying this for awhile. Well stricter I do believe I would prefer a more accurate rating over something getting overrated. Plus free grading notes has me favor CBCS over CGC.
Cgc definately overgrades. Cbcs has the more accurate grading. I think CGC excels in golden age and silver age books. They are more likely to catch trimmed books, faint restoration and missing pages. The same goes with the cgc census a valuable tool for golden age books but on modern books basically meaningless. Thousands of modern day books graded and then many have been cracked open and the label discarded even many already graded books resubmitted after pressing with never notifying the company that it was previously in their databases skewing any census.
Eric Purcell your 100% right and why I know 100% is I buy only CBCS crack send in to CGC and return in investment every single time. Grade bumps .5 to 1.0.. sometimes higher but not often.
Have you considered doing an update to this video? CBCS has gained a lot of traction since this video and their books sell for the same in a lot of cases now. They now have a census too which takes away almost everything from CGC as far as advantages. It's a great video and accurate af at the time. CGC may be getting too big for it's britches.
There's no MAY! CGC has gotten too big for its own good. Something is up with CGC. I sent 4 modern books expedited in April this year. And still haven't received them. I called CGC customer support and a representative told me I won't receive my books until December this year. I also checked the status of these books last week in my CGC account. And all of my books just went into pressing 2 weeks ago🤣🤣🤣
CBCS also gives a far more fair grading which deters people..why send to CBCS and get a 7.0 grade when you can send to CGC and get 7.5...thus the real reason people use CGC more.
CGC might have a senses and sells more than CBCS, but CGC has become less objective in their grading on key issues in more recent years. I had ASM #361 that should be graded at a 7.5 and CGC gave me a 9.2....
Is that a legitimate argument? Is that an actual debate so what I’m hearing from you is let’s say I had a 9.6 book graded by CBCS that same book might be greater than a 10 by CGC?
Solid video and review. Digging your content good sir. Really appreciate the way you let the hobby fund itself. For me it's so hard to let go of certain things, although I have . I sold enough comics to pay 10% down on my house and enough to put 25% on a car. Also have done the same for a vacation.
Hey Gem thanks very much for another interesting and informative video. Since I joined the channel and Facebook group I learned a ton about comics and statues. I never really knew the difference between an absolute or omnibus and now I do. Keep doing what ur doing 👍🏻
Definitely loved this vid! Been interested in collecting never understood anything about this process until a few vids back that you have posted. Would love a tutorial of sorts on the process itself if that makes sense.
I like CBCS because they show up at smaller conventions. We have 1 major con a year close to me where both show up but the 3 or 4 smaller cons often CBCS will be there so I can get signature series or just hand off books to save on shipping!!. Oh I'm in Canada so it's also nice to go through CBCS and avoid hassles with the border - they take care of all that for you. I don't sell my books so for my personal collection I don't really care which one...as you say as long as it's not PGX it's good!!
This is what I recommend. CGC for comics that may be more valuable or that you might want to possibly resell in the future, and CBCS for books that might just be for a personal collection with no intent to resell. I recently found a CBCS Batman New 52 #6 1:25 variant (1st Court of Owls) in a 9.8 yellow grade witnessed signatures by Snyder and Capullo and I got a heck of a deal on it because it wasn't CGC. According to the census, there's maybe 20 or less of these in the entire world signed in a 9.8. As a serious fan of this writer/illustrator I was super happy to get a good deal on it, even if it may not have as powerful a reselling ability in the future without a CGC slab because I have no intentions of reselling it. If it's not CGC or CBCS then I don't even mess with it PGX and other companies aren't even worth bothering with.
Grader notes are something that CGC needs to offer for free. I've gotten some questionable grades and I would like to know how they were determined but to have to pay to see those notes to me is just a money grab. They take notes on every book regardless so it's not like they are taking extra time or effort to justify the additional cost. CBCS offers them for free but I agree CGC is the more desirable slab to have so I haven't used CBCS.
Eric Sartin Yes! CBCS has a QR code to scan that takes you directly to those notes on the issue, which as a collector, I love that since I can’t see the book in the slab.
Great info Gem. I never cared for graded books, mainly because I wasn't interested in reselling. The only one I own is a 9.8 mcfarlane's spiderman #1 silver variant. I'll have to bite the bullet and perhaps get a few of my older books graded to sell and fund the hobby.
@@TheBurnout101 that's the worst man. I have so many comics I've received as of late and every one of them had the rings. I'm just not submitting anything until they fix their product.
I need Signature Verifications! I have tons of books signed in the early 90s before CGC came out. Fuck that witness shit. CBCS has that PSA/Beckett sig verify. Love that option.
Damn I didn't know you had comic book class.👍👍👍Thanks for the Info now i understand why cgc is the standard amongst collectors.Glad I saw this video now before I started my collection with graded comics.
I use both cgc and cbcs but something that I've noticed is that I really feel like cbcs has a much clearer and crisper case if you ever put them side-by-side it just seems like there's a slight fog to the cgc cases compared to the CBCs slabs really I guess that's my only complaint with cgc
Many people new to comics had no idea about CGC or CBCS. A Wizard magazine issue in the 90's, stated if you didn't have a certification of authenticity, then the next best thing was to have the artist date their own signature. Obvious why it was the case, since CGC did not exist prior to the year 2000. CBCS at least can be used to verify the signature. It isn't like people who already had their comic books signed before year 2000, are going to attempt to have the same comics signed again by the artist if they are still alive.
@gem mint collectibles, I was wondering if you can let me know if it's worth sending my 1984 Secret Wars 1st black suit Spiderman Symbiote suit appearance to CGC. It is near Mint condition and would like to know what it's worth and how rare is this book? I have the complete set
I bought a PGX slabbed book for $18 a few months back. Just to have the book itself. After getting it home and looking it over I noticed, A piece of hair and a tiny piece of what looked to be white foam inside the slab. Both right on the cover. I don’t know much about grading or slabs but I’m pretty sure CGC or CBCS would never let that slide.
Ya I will say the census is really cool. I'm huge 90s New Warriors fan and I am one of few ppl that got Night Thrasher Four Control #1 and Night Trasher #1 signed and cgc. It's not signature series though cuz when I was at Newark Con I didnt realize they needed to be at the table to witness it. But makes sense. My question is of u want signature series but cgc reps are not present at a low profile local con. Do u call and set up a consultation or something?
Can you talk about the process on how you would go about getting a book CGC'd? I've looked at their web page and form(s) and found it very confusing on how it works and how to get started on getting your books to them. I've got several books that I would like graded but haven't done it because I'm confused on how to get started. Thanks and great video! I learn a lot by watching your channel! Cheers!
Adam Knapp Many local comic shops have CGC accounts and can submit books for you. They’ll help you fill out the paperwork and notify you when the books are back. You can find the nearest shop on CGC’s website.
Thanks a lot! I'll check with mine and see what they say... it's a small shop though and might not do that... what should I do then? Thanks for the information. @Gem Mint Collectibles - That would be great!
@@adamknapp4983 My LCS doesn't do them either, I had to drive 45 minutes to another larger shop that did but the process was very easy. Otherwise, like Gem said, you can submit them yourself you just need to read through the submission paperwork and mail in your books yourself.
CBCS is the only one thats been at the cons around here. I had Beatty and Shooter sig.s (one witnessed and 1 Verified) for the Secret wars all slabbed. those were back in decent time, the 2 I got graded, are going to take forever.(est. over a year with pressing) but I didn't have to worry with packing and shipping, since I handed them directly to them. If CGC is ever at one of the cons I'll give then a shot, but not sure of any others I want slabbed right now.
Just search for a local person that specify in comic book pressing OR when you send to CGC you can request them to press it prior to grading for a fee. There’s a lot of options. I would just say that I heard CGC pressing isn’t the best since they have so many to do. So it’s better to go through someone else if you have the time to wait
David Dorward no problem! I was in the same position as you not long ago. I ended up using a local shop and a place in North Carolina called Premiere Pressing, the guy does a pretty good job
I kinda agree with the ability to get some stuff witnessed signatures, however I have gotten many people at places where CGC were not there so there was no ability to get it witnessed. Also, the fact they charge a lot more to have someone witness isn't bad if you're getting one or two books signed, however, if you're getting many (at one point I got Claremont to sign 100 issues of Uncanny X-Men...have the whole run, working on getting many signed) signed then it becomes cost prohibitive to not only pay the person to sign each book, but then to pay on top of that to have the witness there (which sometimes doubles the cost of getting the books signed).....and what I don't understand is if there is a verification system for autographs, why CGC hasn't implemented that yet....sometimes I worry about getting the signature first, then want to get it graded at a later time (or even add to it (like I did recently with adding John Byrne to Chris Claremont on Uncanny X-Men #108, or Bob McLeod to Claremont on X-Men #94...or eventually wanting to add McFarlane to Amazing Spider-man 299 and 300, or Rob Liefeld to Fabian Nicieza on New Mutants 98)....like I said, it's for my personal collection right now so it doesn't bother me, except when it comes to insuring or taking care of them 20 yrs down the road.
I'm new to the hobby, just got into comic books (both reading and collecting) during the unfortunate quarantine due to Covid-19 in Feb/March of 2020 but I feel that CGC has put me at rest as a young and new collector to the hobby. I like knowing that I can put my trust (and money!) into a comic and know that what I'm getting is legitimate and that I'm not getting scammed. Having the census data and sales history on sites like GoCollect allow me to not get overcharged. I recently paid $140.00 for my very first ever slabbed comic. I went with Black Hammer #1 (2015/2016) first-print which was the 1st appearance of all 6 major characters on the cover, and it's now been optioned for TV/Movie. I overpayed by maybe $20 but that was my choice because I personally love the series and the characters and wanted to own their 1st appearances. It's CGC graded 9.8 and I'm super happy with it, and I know that it is what it claims it is because CGC is just the gold standard. CBCS is cool too but I'd definitely lean towards CGC in 99% of situations unless maybe you know 100% you're not going to resell a book and you want to find it a bit cheaper for your personal collection.
That I don’t know. It used to be a 20% difference, but this video is old and I haven’t really been following CBCS sales. CBCS has recently said there is no different on blue-chip, high dollar books.
It's great that you don't mind gearing a video to newcomers. When I first started collecting omnis a couple of years ago, I joined the Omni Bros Facebook page and I saw all these acronyms that people were using. But when I asked "What's IST? What's LCS?" I was accused of trolling! The guy in charge ("Riley the 'mo?") eventually kicked me out and banned me after I reported some harassment by some of his bro buddies like Mathieu Douche...can't recall the exact names. Close enough.
I am about to buy my first graded prerelease comic book that is also trade CGC SS 9.8 MARKED should I buy pre released with cgc ss marked that is more expensive than just normal trade comic book please help
I know PGX has poor reviews from years ago, however most current reviews seem to be positive. So I sent in 10 issues of ultimate Fallout #4. All 10 were just beautiful, with no spine ticks no color breaks no rolls. I special order them to not be in capsulized unless they were at least a 9.6. Now PGX had a perfect opportunity to charge my credit card with a pretty hefty grading bill, however they sent nine of them back ungraded and only grated one of them add a 9.6. I was blown away, because these books look so clean and excellent. I had no intentions of comparing companies, however I now am considering to send 4 them to cbcs and 5 of them to cgc with no minimum requirements and see what they get graded.
Does a autograph lower the grading? I mean obviously if it is written out to someone then itnwould but what about if u had a 9.8 spawn and then todd mcfarlane signed the book not the plastic would it lower the 9.8?
yellow label signature series does not lower the grade and always increases the value. It can lower the grade if not signed in front of a cgc witness and you choose not to get the green qualified label.
Both has its good and bad. But not here to thrash about their bad, however one thing I really like with CGC is what they have recently done with their Spidey and Venom slabs. I would love Batman to get that as well!
I've met CBCS at two comic cons I've been to. CGC will be at NYCC next month I believe. I'm still uncomfortable with sending my comics away to strangers waiting and trusting in people I don't know to grade my books... Ijs. I'm hoping in the future CGC or CBCS will have on site store locations to do this.
I took my comics to a local con with CGC last year and it WAS a horror story. The guys didn't know shit about comics and it turned out that only one guy there was actually cgc certified or whatever and the other people there were part of his family that he had helping him. They totally mis priced my sendoff and I was scared for the life of my Giant Size X-men. Dear god. Thankfully the comic shop owner who sent down that doofus called me up and rectified the whole thing and got my submission straightened out. Thankfully my Giant Size X-men and witnessed comics came back to me with good grades. They do give you a receipt with your order number and all that. Worth it for not having to ship yourself.
man i sent my comics off in august and they were received on the 20th, still haven't got them back. called them up, they said it was going to take 12 to 14 weeks!!! in otherwords, i'll see them next year sometime! when i sent them in it was like a 5 week turn around time. lol
Once again, saving this vid in my 'Watch Later' folder to reference later when I'm ready to begin the workflow as you described with all my bagged books from years ago. Will be moving back to my hometown soon so don't have the time to begin cherry-picking the key issues yet but when I do I might, as you suggested, to go thru Mike first for pressing before CGC. I know I have Hulk 181 (pretty sure 180 too) in, what I guesstimate to be, in between 8.9-9.2. All my books are pretty clean. I always had concerns with CGC to take a big chunk of the profit though. Don't they take flat fees as well as percentages of possible ROI based on each book? Thanks again, Gem, for sharing your experienced knowledge! You should have been an investor on wall street!!
CBCS just doesn't want to do a census until they are comfortable with the size of their census. They are worried about inflating prices for some books they have low census numbers for compared to CGC or something, you know people confused not knowing about cgc and thinking that CBCS census is that exists. They do keep a record of what they've graded, from what I remember... don't quote me, but pretty sure cbcs plans to release a census at some point. Also, word is... you buy the silver and golden age pgx books at 6.0 or so, then crack it, press it and you can get a cgc 7.5 or 8.0 even... people are doing that at the moment I hear. Low grades are more an art compared to high grades is the word I hear about grades. But, I buy CBCS graded comics fairly frequently, given the lower price... high grades are high grades... census will be made public at some point, doesn't look like cbcs is going anywhere, imo
I disagree slightly about getting the signature of someone who still works in comics verified by CBCS. I was getting comic books signed by artists and writers in the 1980's and 1990's. I've met George Perez, Mike Mignola, and Walt Simonson (among others). If I want to sell any of those books using CBCS to verify the signature (apparently even ones that I have certificates of authenticity for) is my only choice. I think its worth using them over getting a green CGC label
Also, CBCS offers free grader's notes, so that you can see why your book received the grade it did. You have to pay extra for grader's notes from CGC.
Thats great
I'm CBCS all the way. Good to see the support for them in the comments. I feel anyone who knows goes with them. They said this can be done better and they have.
i think they just announced a census
I've been a subscriber of yours now for about 3 months and I've got to say you are most definitely the most informative person on TH-cam about comic collecting. Keep up the outstanding work!
thanks! i appreciate that
@@GemMintCollectibles you're welcome, I appreciate your vast knowledge.
Am a Old Time Collector that's been out for a while & thinking of sending some books. You Cleared up the CGC vs. CBCS for me.... that had been my thoughts a few years ago & it seems it's Still that way today.... Thanks!
Great info on the two. I knew Beckett was affiliated with cbcs buy didn't know they would authenticate. Makes me want to send in my MJ singed SI mag.
I appreciate the comparison between the two I do both. Both companies have their pros and cons i actually dont mind CBCS labels and i like their sig verification and they also have a raw graded service which cgc dont offer for you know the small subset of collectors that want to still read their graded copy.
Can you make a video on a how to send submissions to CGC
Awesome job bro, whoever watches this video will definitely have a good understanding of the differences between both companies.
Hurricane season my books go to CBCS since it's located in the middle of Texas which means no further delays due to a Tropical storm/Hurricane, I live in Texas sometimes it's more economical to make the drive to drop-off/pick up my books than to ship to FL (which also gives me peace of mind).
This is one of those things all of us collectors think about but never get around to finding out. Smalls you bring knowledge to us all and I appreciate it man. Keep doing your thing!
Got my first one today posted on your FB trying to get into this game why I’m going back on all your old CGC videos.
Totally new guy here when it comes to collecting, grading, pressing..etc. This video and the others have been really valuable.
I'm glad!
Awesome video Gem like always its amazing to see you help out people who are trying to get into collecting
Great info just what I need for my travels into the CGC zone!! Now I know the difference..
I've used both companies and CBCS def has more stricter grading standards. CGC tends to be slightly more leniant on their end making it more favorable for a seller to use. CGC has been around for awhile so I see a lot of collectors tend to gravitate towards them. But dont overlook CBCS, their late to the party but their out there making moves!
I have been saying this for awhile. Well stricter I do believe I would prefer a more accurate rating over something getting overrated. Plus free grading notes has me favor CBCS over CGC.
Cgc definately overgrades. Cbcs has the more accurate grading. I think CGC excels in golden age and silver age books. They are more likely to catch trimmed books, faint restoration and missing pages. The same goes with the cgc census a valuable tool for golden age books but on modern books basically meaningless. Thousands of modern day books graded and then many have been cracked open and the label discarded even many already graded books resubmitted after pressing with never notifying the company that it was previously in their databases skewing any census.
Eric Purcell your 100% right and why I know 100% is I buy only CBCS crack send in to CGC and return in investment every single time. Grade bumps .5 to 1.0.. sometimes higher but not often.
I agree. I really like cbcs. There something about the underdog that appeals to me. I will use cbcs but not some shady company like pgx
Edit your post and change "their" to "they're." I don't take your comment serious with such simple grammar errors.
Keep the good work! I have returned and the whole grading thing was confusing. However I did decide to stick with CGC for all the reason you stated.
I’ve always been a collector of comics and how to store them but these videos are very informative in things that I don’t know. Thanks Gem 💎
Very helpful. Always been a collector , but more hoarding for myself. Now wanting to change collection Into keys and slabs
Neat Video. I didn't even know about the other grading companies until now.
Have you considered doing an update to this video? CBCS has gained a lot of traction since this video and their books sell for the same in a lot of cases now. They now have a census too which takes away almost everything from CGC as far as advantages. It's a great video and accurate af at the time. CGC may be getting too big for it's britches.
There's no MAY! CGC has gotten too big for its own good. Something is up with CGC. I sent 4 modern books expedited in April this year. And still haven't received them. I called CGC customer support and a representative told me I won't receive my books until December this year. I also checked the status of these books last week in my CGC account. And all of my books just went into pressing 2 weeks ago🤣🤣🤣
CBCS also gives a far more fair grading which deters people..why send to CBCS and get a 7.0 grade when you can send to CGC and get 7.5...thus the real reason people use CGC more.
Jonathan Taylor grading is all subjective
And that comment Makes zero sense
CGC might have a senses and sells more than CBCS, but CGC has become less objective in their grading on key issues in more recent years. I had ASM #361 that should be graded at a 7.5 and CGC gave me a 9.2....
Yeah but wjat the difference in a sales price of .5 and how long is the cgc wait?
@@oceanrising6137 well you made some more cash or not isn't that what u wanna make as well ?
Is that a legitimate argument? Is that an actual debate so what I’m hearing from you is let’s say I had a 9.6 book graded by CBCS that same book might be greater than a 10 by CGC?
Hey gem!.I really appreciate the video and learned something new today,I guess the old saying is true "we learn something every day" so thank you!
Thanks Gem, really informative and concise. I’ve never had anything graded myself (only bought pre-graded) so this video is really useful
Solid video and review. Digging your content good sir. Really appreciate the way you let the hobby fund itself. For me it's so hard to let go of certain things, although I have .
I sold enough comics to pay 10% down on my house and enough to put 25% on a car. Also have done the same for a vacation.
I was wondering what the difference was between CGC and CBCS. Thanks for the info. Knowledge! Thanks bruh
CGC graded 10 should have a picture of Gem Mint in the corner lol.
Damn right
Thinking about dipping my toe into selling. Thanks for these vids bro
What were the problems with the newer CGC slabs? And we’re they corrected?
Hey Gem thanks very much for another interesting and informative video.
Since I joined the channel and Facebook group I learned a ton about comics and statues. I never really knew the difference between an absolute or omnibus and now I do. Keep doing what ur doing 👍🏻
Thanks for your knowledge I'm all for anything rare that most people don't have or can't get.
Definitely loved this vid! Been interested in collecting never understood anything about this process until a few vids back that you have posted. Would love a tutorial of sorts on the process itself if that makes sense.
Nice and informative! Great job Gem!
I like CBCS because they show up at smaller conventions. We have 1 major con a year close to me where both show up but the 3 or 4 smaller cons often CBCS will be there so I can get signature series or just hand off books to save on shipping!!. Oh I'm in Canada so it's also nice to go through CBCS and avoid hassles with the border - they take care of all that for you. I don't sell my books so for my personal collection I don't really care which one...as you say as long as it's not PGX it's good!!
This is what I recommend. CGC for comics that may be more valuable or that you might want to possibly resell in the future, and CBCS for books that might just be for a personal collection with no intent to resell. I recently found a CBCS Batman New 52 #6 1:25 variant (1st Court of Owls) in a 9.8 yellow grade witnessed signatures by Snyder and Capullo and I got a heck of a deal on it because it wasn't CGC. According to the census, there's maybe 20 or less of these in the entire world signed in a 9.8. As a serious fan of this writer/illustrator I was super happy to get a good deal on it, even if it may not have as powerful a reselling ability in the future without a CGC slab because I have no intentions of reselling it. If it's not CGC or CBCS then I don't even mess with it PGX and other companies aren't even worth bothering with.
Sik vid Gem!! Buy the book not the grading company. I do prefer the feel of CGC cases but won't pass up a good deal in a CBCS😊😊🦇🕷
Grader notes are something that CGC needs to offer for free. I've gotten some questionable grades and I would like to know how they were determined but to have to pay to see those notes to me is just a money grab. They take notes on every book regardless so it's not like they are taking extra time or effort to justify the additional cost. CBCS offers them for free but I agree CGC is the more desirable slab to have so I haven't used CBCS.
Eric Sartin Yes! CBCS has a QR code to scan that takes you directly to those notes on the issue, which as a collector, I love that since I can’t see the book in the slab.
At least it used to be, but anyone who used CGC for grading has free access to the grader's notes of the books they submitted.
Perfect video for deciding. I've got sigs, so it is CBCS.
Great info Gem. I never cared for graded books, mainly because I wasn't interested in reselling. The only one I own is a 9.8 mcfarlane's spiderman #1 silver variant. I'll have to bite the bullet and perhaps get a few of my older books graded to sell and fund the hobby.
What is the process of sending books to Mike to get pressed and sent to CGC through him?
Not bought any slabs as yet but would only buy cgc purely from watching ur channel 👍🏻💎 great info especially for a newer collector like me
i would strongly recommend that...you will see people making comments that they prefer CBCS...they are 100% not selling books
Only issue I have with CGC is newton rings. I know it doesn't affect the books value, but it looks like garbage.
Casey Anderson yea same I just got my batman beyond graded and it came back with it on it 😒😒
@@TheBurnout101 that's the worst man. I have so many comics I've received as of late and every one of them had the rings. I'm just not submitting anything until they fix their product.
i have to admit the newton rings do seem to be an issue, just got my first set back and almost all of them have newton rings in them.
Yup, same here, i have 16 cgcs and all of them have newton rings.
@@shadjester1935 All 16 ?!?!? Damn :(
Very informative video. Can you send a already graded CGC back to be pressed?
I need Signature Verifications! I have tons of books signed in the early 90s before CGC came out. Fuck that witness shit. CBCS has that PSA/Beckett sig verify. Love that option.
Hey do a video about the types of boards and bags that you use and your thoughts about the different brands.
Damn I didn't know you had comic book class.👍👍👍Thanks for the Info now i understand why cgc is the standard amongst collectors.Glad I saw this video now before I started my collection with graded comics.
Thanks for the info. Bringing tremendous value to the masses.
I use both cgc and cbcs but something that I've noticed is that I really feel like cbcs has a much clearer and crisper case if you ever put them side-by-side it just seems like there's a slight fog to the cgc cases compared to the CBCs slabs really I guess that's my only complaint with cgc
Very informative video, thank you sir. I have some comics I was looking to get graded, nothing fancy or cool. More want to do it as a hobby
Many people new to comics had no idea about CGC or CBCS. A Wizard magazine issue in the 90's, stated if you didn't have a certification of authenticity, then the next best thing was to have the artist date their own signature. Obvious why it was the case, since CGC did not exist prior to the year 2000. CBCS at least can be used to verify the signature. It isn't like people who already had their comic books signed before year 2000, are going to attempt to have the same comics signed again by the artist if they are still alive.
I would love to hear more about the pressing process! Never really dug into it.
Thank you! David from Toronto
That shirt tho ... make em say uuhhhhh na na na na good shit as always bub
How can you tell if a cgc graded comic is a first print or second print when it’s hella old? I’m looking at a blue beetle #1 1967
Love your videos, so much information thanks gem!!
@gem mint collectibles, I was wondering if you can let me know if it's worth sending my 1984 Secret Wars 1st black suit Spiderman Symbiote suit appearance to CGC. It is near Mint condition and would like to know what it's worth and how rare is this book? I have the complete set
I have a question is there anyway to remove ink pen ink from the front covers of comics
Great info Gem. I been thinking of getting some of my books graded. Just don't know how to go about it. Stay Minty Fresh brother. 👍
just send them to herorestoration.net for Mike to press. he'll submit to CGC and CGC will mail back to you
@@GemMintCollectibles Thanks bro. I appreciate the info on where to start. 👍
I bought a PGX slabbed book for $18 a few months back. Just to have the book itself. After getting it home and looking it over I noticed, A piece of hair and a tiny piece of what looked to be white foam inside the slab. Both right on the cover. I don’t know much about grading or slabs but I’m pretty sure CGC or CBCS would never let that slide.
I'm trying to collect Todd McFarlanes marvel run. do you know where I could find a list? thanks 😁
Who is Mike, and how do I send my books for pressing and grading
Ya I will say the census is really cool. I'm huge 90s New Warriors fan and I am one of few ppl that got Night Thrasher Four Control #1 and Night Trasher #1 signed and cgc. It's not signature series though cuz when I was at Newark Con I didnt realize they needed to be at the table to witness it. But makes sense.
My question is of u want signature series but cgc reps are not present at a low profile local con.
Do u call and set up a consultation or something?
Very informative Gem! Great vid!
Can you talk about the process on how you would go about getting a book CGC'd? I've looked at their web page and form(s) and found it very confusing on how it works and how to get started on getting your books to them. I've got several books that I would like graded but haven't done it because I'm confused on how to get started.
Thanks and great video! I learn a lot by watching your channel! Cheers!
Adam Knapp Many local comic shops have CGC accounts and can submit books for you. They’ll help you fill out the paperwork and notify you when the books are back. You can find the nearest shop on CGC’s website.
we should just send in some books just for a video to show the process
Thanks a lot! I'll check with mine and see what they say... it's a small shop though and might not do that... what should I do then? Thanks for the information. @Gem Mint Collectibles - That would be great!
@@adamknapp4983 My LCS doesn't do them either, I had to drive 45 minutes to another larger shop that did but the process was very easy. Otherwise, like Gem said, you can submit them yourself you just need to read through the submission paperwork and mail in your books yourself.
That No limit tee is fits.. shout out from the 504 7th ward! I still bump Unpredictable to this day!
Great video! This is a question I’ve always asked is how reputable CBCS. Always a great show on this channel! #mintyfresh
I just read the article in the Overstreet 50th Anniversary Price Guide on CBCS, and Steve himself said they do use a census.
Yea, it’s new
I have a J Scott Campbell comic signed by JSC with a certified signature certificate, does CGC recognize certified certificates?
CBCS is the only one thats been at the cons around here. I had Beatty and Shooter sig.s (one witnessed and 1 Verified) for the Secret wars all slabbed. those were back in decent time, the 2 I got graded, are going to take forever.(est. over a year with pressing) but I didn't have to worry with packing and shipping, since I handed them directly to them. If CGC is ever at one of the cons I'll give then a shot, but not sure of any others I want slabbed right now.
Sorry how do you get comic books "pressed" and to whom do you send them to? I am from Canada fyi.
Just search for a local person that specify in comic book pressing OR when you send to CGC you can request them to press it prior to grading for a fee. There’s a lot of options. I would just say that I heard CGC pressing isn’t the best since they have so many to do. So it’s better to go through someone else if you have the time to wait
@@RetroExhibitCollective Thanks. Good advice.
David Dorward no problem! I was in the same position as you not long ago. I ended up using a local shop and a place in North Carolina called Premiere Pressing, the guy does a pretty good job
A breakdown between CGC, CBCS, PGX by the great one? Hell, yeah!👍🏽
I kinda agree with the ability to get some stuff witnessed signatures, however I have gotten many people at places where CGC were not there so there was no ability to get it witnessed. Also, the fact they charge a lot more to have someone witness isn't bad if you're getting one or two books signed, however, if you're getting many (at one point I got Claremont to sign 100 issues of Uncanny X-Men...have the whole run, working on getting many signed) signed then it becomes cost prohibitive to not only pay the person to sign each book, but then to pay on top of that to have the witness there (which sometimes doubles the cost of getting the books signed).....and what I don't understand is if there is a verification system for autographs, why CGC hasn't implemented that yet....sometimes I worry about getting the signature first, then want to get it graded at a later time (or even add to it (like I did recently with adding John Byrne to Chris Claremont on Uncanny X-Men #108, or Bob McLeod to Claremont on X-Men #94...or eventually wanting to add McFarlane to Amazing Spider-man 299 and 300, or Rob Liefeld to Fabian Nicieza on New Mutants 98)....like I said, it's for my personal collection right now so it doesn't bother me, except when it comes to insuring or taking care of them 20 yrs down the road.
I'm new to the hobby, just got into comic books (both reading and collecting) during the unfortunate quarantine due to Covid-19 in Feb/March of 2020 but I feel that CGC has put me at rest as a young and new collector to the hobby. I like knowing that I can put my trust (and money!) into a comic and know that what I'm getting is legitimate and that I'm not getting scammed. Having the census data and sales history on sites like GoCollect allow me to not get overcharged. I recently paid $140.00 for my very first ever slabbed comic. I went with Black Hammer #1 (2015/2016) first-print which was the 1st appearance of all 6 major characters on the cover, and it's now been optioned for TV/Movie. I overpayed by maybe $20 but that was my choice because I personally love the series and the characters and wanted to own their 1st appearances. It's CGC graded 9.8 and I'm super happy with it, and I know that it is what it claims it is because CGC is just the gold standard. CBCS is cool too but I'd definitely lean towards CGC in 99% of situations unless maybe you know 100% you're not going to resell a book and you want to find it a bit cheaper for your personal collection.
So what is the actual difference in price gap between the two grading companies?
That I don’t know. It used to be a 20% difference, but this video is old and I haven’t really been following CBCS sales. CBCS has recently said there is no different on blue-chip, high dollar books.
All right, thank you
I have a question! If I send my comic book signed graded by CBCS to CGC does they put on a yellow label?
I sent in a Detective 880 for rating and got an 8.0, I expected at the very elastic a 9.4. What pisses me off is that there is no notes
I know folks who break 9.4s and .6s to press and try and get a 9.8.. so that messes up the consensus doesn't it?
It's great that you don't mind gearing a video to newcomers. When I first started collecting omnis a couple of years ago, I joined the Omni Bros Facebook page and I saw all these acronyms that people were using. But when I asked "What's IST? What's LCS?" I was accused of trolling! The guy in charge ("Riley the 'mo?") eventually kicked me out and banned me after I reported some harassment by some of his bro buddies like Mathieu Douche...can't recall the exact names. Close enough.
I am about to buy my first graded prerelease comic book that is also trade CGC SS 9.8 MARKED should I buy pre released with cgc ss marked that is more expensive than just normal trade comic book please help
I know this video is 2yrs old but is it possible to send a CBCS book to get it CGC certified?
Did you ever crack a PGX slab comic or send it in to CGC for a regrade🤔
finally started reading my single issues of Justice League Dark the current series. definitely worth checking out imo. hope you review it soon
I know PGX has poor reviews from years ago, however most current reviews seem to be positive. So I sent in 10 issues of ultimate Fallout #4. All 10 were just beautiful, with no spine ticks no color breaks no rolls. I special order them to not be in capsulized unless they were at least a 9.6. Now PGX had a perfect opportunity to charge my credit card with a pretty hefty grading bill, however they sent nine of them back ungraded and only grated one of them add a 9.6.
I was blown away, because these books look so clean and excellent.
I had no intentions of comparing companies, however I now am considering to send 4 them to cbcs and 5 of them to cgc with no minimum requirements and see what they get graded.
How’d that go if you ever did it?
All my graded comic books are from PGX and I have never had a problem. But that's just me.
Does a autograph lower the grading? I mean obviously if it is written out to someone then itnwould but what about if u had a 9.8 spawn and then todd mcfarlane signed the book not the plastic would it lower the 9.8?
yellow label signature series does not lower the grade and always increases the value. It can lower the grade if not signed in front of a cgc witness and you choose not to get the green qualified label.
Where I can send my comic to get press @Gemmint
Very nice! Been waiting on this one.
Both has its good and bad. But not here to thrash about their bad, however one thing I really like with CGC is what they have recently done with their Spidey and Venom slabs. I would love Batman to get that as well!
I've met CBCS at two comic cons I've been to. CGC will be at NYCC next month I believe. I'm still uncomfortable with sending my comics away to strangers waiting and trusting in people I don't know to grade my books... Ijs. I'm hoping in the future CGC or CBCS will have on site store locations to do this.
I took my comics to a local con with CGC last year and it WAS a horror story. The guys didn't know shit about comics and it turned out that only one guy there was actually cgc certified or whatever and the other people there were part of his family that he had helping him. They totally mis priced my sendoff and I was scared for the life of my Giant Size X-men. Dear god. Thankfully the comic shop owner who sent down that doofus called me up and rectified the whole thing and got my submission straightened out. Thankfully my Giant Size X-men and witnessed comics came back to me with good grades. They do give you a receipt with your order number and all that. Worth it for not having to ship yourself.
@@undead797 ... Christ! That is scary. Good you got your book(s) back at all! This is why I'm very hesitant.
I like CBCS better for the grade notes, signature authentication, and more notes on the book on the label
man i sent my comics off in august and they were received on the 20th, still haven't got them back. called them up, they said it was going to take 12 to 14 weeks!!! in otherwords, i'll see them next year sometime! when i sent them in it was like a 5 week turn around time. lol
Thanks, Great info. Gem Mint.
I need help I at a crossroads between pcs evil ryu 1/3 or Sideshow The Punisher 1/4 scale which should I get 1st both is sold at sideshow website
those PCS can be bought for cheaper in the aftermarket
Is there any other aftermarket besides Ebay
Once again, saving this vid in my 'Watch Later' folder to reference later when I'm ready to begin the workflow as you described with all my bagged books from years ago. Will be moving back to my hometown soon so don't have the time to begin cherry-picking the key issues yet but when I do I might, as you suggested, to go thru Mike first for pressing before CGC. I know I have Hulk 181 (pretty sure 180 too) in, what I guesstimate to be, in between 8.9-9.2. All my books are pretty clean. I always had concerns with CGC to take a big chunk of the profit though. Don't they take flat fees as well as percentages of possible ROI based on each book? Thanks again, Gem, for sharing your experienced knowledge! You should have been an investor on wall street!!
CBCS just doesn't want to do a census until they are comfortable with the size of their census. They are worried about inflating prices for some books they have low census numbers for compared to CGC or something, you know people confused not knowing about cgc and thinking that CBCS census is that exists. They do keep a record of what they've graded, from what I remember... don't quote me, but pretty sure cbcs plans to release a census at some point. Also, word is... you buy the silver and golden age pgx books at 6.0 or so, then crack it, press it and you can get a cgc 7.5 or 8.0 even... people are doing that at the moment I hear. Low grades are more an art compared to high grades is the word I hear about grades. But, I buy CBCS graded comics fairly frequently, given the lower price... high grades are high grades... census will be made public at some point, doesn't look like cbcs is going anywhere, imo
that makes sense
The only time i buy PGX is when I can get the comic real cheap. Have it cracked, pressed. And then sent off to CGC.
I have been using PGX I've had no problems.... And I have heard that CGC can take up to a year for you to get back your comic books.
Have you ever tried to sell one?
@@GemMintCollectibles No I haven't..
Who is Mike & how can you send them to get pressed?
Has your opinion changed over the last 2 years? It would be cool to see an update.
Has not lol
@@GemMintCollectibles haha I respect the consistency!
I disagree slightly about getting the signature of someone who still works in comics verified by CBCS. I was getting comic books signed by artists and writers in the 1980's and 1990's. I've met George Perez, Mike Mignola, and Walt Simonson (among others). If I want to sell any of those books using CBCS to verify the signature (apparently even ones that I have certificates of authenticity for) is my only choice. I think its worth using them over getting a green CGC label
Is it worth doing that
Subbed! Good show man!
I have a photo of someone signing my comic with me and them in the photo. Would that help to qualify for a signature label?