@@TheBKnight3 yes and no. They cannot be made specifically to Target ships. They target the radar, and as long as the ship has their radar on or had it on where the harm could lock then yes it could be used as an anti-ship sort of
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Eleven Slovak MiG-29s will probably be sent to Ukraine soon. Our country grounded them because they had to be maintained by Russian technicians. We ordered 14 Vipers as replacement, first ones will arrive in 2024. In the meantime, Czech and Polish air forces protect our airspace.
You do realize wars can spread? It's not going to be fun and games with roasted marshmallows and potatoes around the campfire. You are arming the foe of an aggressive nuclear superpower who thinks the USSR was just wonderful.
@@markiobook8639 Russia is no superpower, aside from the nukes, which they won't use, because then, even the few allies they have left would shun them. Their military is just a blown up propaganda bubble, as is shown by the Ukrainians almost every day. Armata, Su-57, and the laughable cardboard Su-75 will never make it to serial production. Even the S-400, which is one of the few systems they actually managed to deploy si vastly underperforming it's declared performance - Ukrainian jets are bombing the Kherson frontline every day, well within the declared range of the S-400 on Crimea, and yet none was shot down. Ukraine is our neighbour, and it is my pleasure that our country can help them even a little to defend their freedom against the empire of shit that is today's Russia!
@@markiobook8639 a nation with a smaller budget than Italy and has lost more then a quarter of its modern tank force. Yeah I have demoted Russia from a major threat like China, to north Korea tier.
The Ukrainian Neptune missile is far superior to Harpoon and CAN be programmed to look for certain ships (by silhouette) and even pick out where on that ship the missile should strike. The French SCALP based ASM can also perform the same trick.
The US has multiple missiles with more advanced features (including the feature you mentioned, identifying ships against a database which is a feature on the NSM and LRASM), but the primary issue here is buggy anti-ship missiles in DCS as a whole. I don't believe any anti-ship missile in the game works properly to deconflict between missiles based on the overall targeting area and the number of ships post-launch. Besides that, DCS is using an older variant of the Harpoon, and the US is replacing the Harpoon with the Naval Strike Missile going forward as its dedicated deck-launched anti-ship missile (including the modified NSM, called the Joint Strike Missile, which is fired via aircraft or Mk 41 VLS), in addition to a new variant of Tomahawk with greater anti-ship capability. Then there's the SLAM-ER (command guidance data link, infrared and GPS guidance systems), JASSM, LRASM, and SM-6, which are all capable of hitting ships. While I agree that Neptune appears to be a great missile, I don't believe they have the quantity available for such an attack, or if they do, they don't want to risk a majority of their inventory. Both reasons would be entirely understandable, particularly manufacturing issues encountered when an enemy is constantly seeking to destroy infrastructure. I believe it's an availability issue in particular, as otherwise, what's stopping them from using Neptune more aggressively since its initial operational success in sinking the Moskva? I do recall one thing though, during the numerous videos and articles reviewing the reported Moskva damage photos, multiple analysts stated the Neptune missiles target the largest RCS area of the ship, which would be the bridge and just ahead/behind the bridge. The analysts noted this falls in line with the impact area shown in the image.
@@jamison884 Can these new naval strike missiles be fired from the same cells as the harpoons? If so, it'd be nice to replace the harpoons on ships and submarines. Keep the old stocks of harpoons as backups or sell them to friendlies.
To get a better spread use a line formation, very widely spread, and shoot the missiles along a wide front. You're using a narrow front and everything comes in from the same vector, so they home on the same ship. You had plenty of time to get into a wide line formation (like one plane per mile) so that your missiles would be approaching from different vectors. The missiles would be more evenly distributed between the targets.
Really enjoyed this one, THANKS! The two rolls and the launches looked gorgeous!! Would love to see an update with a more complex scenario: Russian fighters, a Ukrainian decoy/SEAD/Wild Weasel flight, active ship defense, etc. Anyway, this was a lot of fun!!
Pausing at 5:06 before I see how this works out to suggest a more roundabout route (it would require tankers). Stay out of detection range of the S400. Go south, then east, then northwest. Skirt the mountains at low level, popup just as you round the western tip. Fire away, then skedaddle back south to meet up with the tankers again.
@@grimreapers it is not, likely can be preprogrammed with certain target parameters beforehand but after its gone its autonomous. perhaps the parameters can be updated mid-flight using the same datalink course corrections are fed through, but that is unknown
Cap, Ukraine already have Harpoons via a donation by Denmark of ground launch vehicles back in May. Not sure how easily they might be to convert for air launch purposes but they're not unfamiliar with the weapon!
Good video, wouldn't the UAF do a joint mission that includes Drones in order to get the s-400 to engage the drones?. I mean they have some options on the table on how to engage the fleet. It wouldn't surprise me if the USA and Ukraine are already war gaming this strategy....
There are thousands of variables that could have been involved with this. But like Cap said at the beginning of the video that's not the scope of this scenario. No fighters over head, nothing to interfere with the goal, which is seeing if the Mig 29 can fire the American Harpoon. No more than that.
@@valuedhumanoid6574 We know it can fire the harpoon, that's not anything that needs to be simulated with this exercise. What matters is if the Ukrainian migs can get hits on the ships so I don't understand why we're not really testing that with a more realistic scenario. The video started off talking about the harm missile but now I guess we're not going to use it 😞
Man! Back in the late-ish '90s, I used to play one of the first multi-player flight sims! Back when everyone was using modems...! First, we had 14,400, then 28,800, and then 56k... The graphics were surprisingly good for the day but due to irregular modem connectivity, planes would just 'warp' away and you'd have to chase them down to try to get your kill. The game started out as 'Confirmed Kill' but was later renamed 'Warbirds'. It was a WWII sim and god it was fun to play! You had to type your conversations though because of the low bandwidth! Seeing you guys in this sim makes me want to go out and buy a new joystick etc, and join in the fun!!! I had quit playing before DSL came around and haven't really messed with those sims since... This really looks like a good time though! Great video!!!
Taking off needs an absolute master class. Cap, seriously? Anyone that has watched more than 3 videos knows that you all are experts at taking off without any problems!
One pilot said “I tell the plane how to fly, the plane does not tell me.” As the title of a documentary some time ago “ The right Stuff is now The Wrong Stuff”
UAF: so thanks for volunteering to conduct this air strike for us so how many harpoons did you say you wanted on the Mig 29's we're lending you? Grim Reapers: Yes
It would be interesting to see russian submarines launching cruise missiles at land targets being counteracted by OTOMAT Milas AntiSubmarine missiles (basically an antiship missile delivering an active torpedo)
8-9 deg AoA on takeoff is fine (instead of just 5). Nose up to that attitude between 180-230 km/h to prevent the t[i,y]res from popping and let her fly off the ground. FC3 things yo. Attempting to climb aggressively right after takeoff, especially with a heavily loaded plane, is a reliable indication of low aviation aptitude.
You could have used the training two seater mig-29 to solve for the communication with the missiles problem. Having the men in the back seat acting like a gunner, communing data from NATO satellite and awac.
While you show a 400km circle around the S-400 site you should instead draw a 250km circle as the S-400 from the mod does not fire the 40N6 but instead the 48N6E3 (aka 48N6DM in the mod). Not that it really matters in this case as you were well within range of either missile.
@@grimreapers Is that a separate mod from the S-300 series with S-400 and Pantsir by Strigoi_dk and LetMePickThat? If so and it's not a private mod if you could let me know where I can find it. I've looked through the GR discord and also the DCS mods page and google for any and all SAM mods but that and the High Digit Sams (HDS) are the only ones I've found. If it is the same mod, looks like it but you never know, the missiles that are the long range ones are the 48N6E3 (250km) and the short range ones are the 9M96E2 (120km). Of course if it's not the same mod or if the missile has been modified to more fit the 40N6 characteristics than nevermind. I've merged the S-300 series and the HDS mod together (mostly - can't get the S-300V4 to work yet) for private use, but if there is another mod that adds more SAM capability I'd be interested in adding it too. Anyways love the content. Your SAM series of content got me into DCS and interested in SAM sites as a whole.
Well, they would target whatever's radiating. The "Russians" here would simply just let their smaller ships take the hits to preserve their heavy assets. Makes sense to me.
Great, it works :) love all the work you do... soon to help in more ways than comment, but I like seeing the struggle even for the vets. Just watched the new plane release also so combining the comments but yeah always keep me watching. Untill we meet again !
Not sure if anyone's put this out yet, but the Kh-35 (aka the Harpoonski) can actually be fired from Mig-29's and I have no doubt that the Ukrainian version has a similar capability.
Fantastic video! I am not at all surprised that the MiG-29 can shoot American missiles. I had the opportunity to get up close to one of those lovely Russian ladies when I was in the USAF and I've been in love with it ever since.
The Mig-29 is still a great plane, and upgraded with American precision weapons could be just as deadly as the F-16. The drawback is the Mig has a relatively light fuel capacity limiting range
Absouletly sick looking fighter jet the MiG-29 in my opinion. I love that aircraft. When I was 9-10 yo I was in an Airshow, where the Hungarian Air Force flying MiG-29 above us in formation. Absolutely stunning view was that, and that was the point when I started to love the Eurofighter Typhoons also from the German Air Force. Such an amazing fighter jets!
It's been a while sine i've flown a fc3 module, but if i remember correctly you can reset trim to neutral with ctrl + t. That would solve the trim problem after disengaging autopilot Supercap.
I would love to see in the DCS the new AWACS E-7 Wedgetail. It can fly much more higher altitude than the old AWACS and have a better range because of that, not to mention its new sensors and radars. Some says it can detect a stealth 5th gen aircraft much more earlier than the old E-3 Sentry, also it can defend itself vs amraams. The old version cant really do the same so no more escort needed in order to protect it.
The problem with AWAC is the RADAR range is about the same (or slightly shorter) than the engagement range of R-37. Yes it's unlikely R-37 could engage a fighter taking evasive action - but it'll steer well enough to track an AWAC sized target. Hopefully Russia doesn't have too many of those - but I suspect they would keep some back for exactly this task if things escalate - they'd be mad not to. I wouldn't like to be sitting in a 737 with one of those hurtling towards me!
@@LondonSteveLee Iam not speaking about that R-37 missile. Its more like a BVRAAM than an AMRAAM. :) Also, yes you correct. In real life an AWACS would be destroyed first, before any fighting will happen.(If there is an AWACS)
@@LondonSteveLee an r-37 would have lower range than an AWACS could detect (specifically detect) any non-stealth fighter sized target. also, an r-37 needs (of course) a firing solution which can only be acquired by any Russian fighter (specific distances will vary depending on the launch platform) at a much lower range than the R-37s max range
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 Sure AWACS would and could detect it - so what? You're not going to stop it in an AWACS. You can turn and run hoping you run it out of range and leave the battlefield or get shot down! I would expect western jammers to do well but would you want to bet your life on it?
There's no point in carrying a mixed loadout if there's a good chance you won't live long enough to launch all of the weapons. The UAF does not have as many fighters as the USAF so they have to play guerilla style. Get in, launch ordnance, get out.
If you launched from different vectors. Like a 50 mile separation and in stagered waves with the way there modeled in . Would the missiles do a better job of selecting different targets ?
I would really like to repeat this myself. Can someone suggest me how to accomplish this? I have already flown with HARM missiles (a new mod for mig29). I even tried to change the payload in the Mig29 text file (in MisionEditor/UnitPayloads). But the agm84-d missiles I had used could not be launched, only dropped. I would be very grateful if someone could help.
If they are hesitant due to the S-400, why not send in first the SU-25 with HARM missiles to disarm those SAMs (it need those RADARs to operate and be effective), to be followed then by the MIG 29.
would love to see you re run the mission with two migs carrying HARMs and see the result. will the simulation also include AWACS? I was told there is always a russian AWACS orbiting Crimeria.
Hi! Is it uncommon to attack two locations in modern warfare in one mission squadron? A few mig can deploy AGM88 as the s400 radar is fully exposed while majority aims for ships. Also, I wonder HARM can seeks and destroy the radar (in different bands?) on ships. Is the missile designed for moving target on the sea?
Thats a good shout, the s400s most dangerous asset is its track radar which needs to stay on for the majority of the missiles flight time, so having a weasal squadron doing SEAD and destroying the track radars would be doing some serious damage. Also to answer the question, yes they can track moving radars as long as the source remains active. But for the sake of launching HARMs at ships you might as well just launch ASMs since they have evasive capabilities and can be launched from further away than HARMs.
In DCS, I'm pretty sure the HARM just hits the last spot it detected radiation, so if a radar was on and operational, it turned off, and it was moving, the HARM would not track it once turned off. Therefore, I'm not sure if it is capable of hitting moving ships with a radiation signature and I'd love to know what it does in the real world. As far as a DCS test, I think it would be a pretty cool video to test the HARM against various conditions, such as a moving ground target and both a static and moving ship. However, due to DCS not programming ships in high fidelity, they can't be controlled to turn their radar emissions off to fully test the theory. In a real mission as long as Ukraine has the spare Mig-29s, they would probably send them in to take out the S-400. However, this video was just to test the Harpoon scenario. It's quite interesting to see the "mighty" S-400 pretty easily defeated by the gaggle of Harpoons. It fired ~60 missiles with very few hits (if any?), as it looked like the S-400 missiles were losing lock during their terminal approach. I'm not sure exactly why, but I guess the RCS and speed of the Harpoons (plus being in a large group) confused the SAMs.
@@gregbarnes4083 Thank you for the answers! HARM is a little faster so I thought it would be somewhat better penetrating the defense than Harpoons would. Mix use of them in DCS may be interesting in future videos? :)
Weird that the Harpoons don't have a guidance subsystem that detects explosions and switches the missile to a secondary target if the ship that it is tracking is hit by another missile.
Cap please review the capability of s400 in-game, there is video footage of HIMARS hitting a bridge defended by s400 multiple times in one night even pantsir failing to defend it
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Speculation in the field is the HIMARS rockets fly too fast, low, and flat for S400 to engage, it is fine against true ballistic missiles coming in from high altitude, or a slower cruise missile, or an ATACMS.
Hey Cap and the Grim Reapers. I got a question about anti radiation missiles in DCS. Since they lock on to radar radiations, could they be used to fire on AWACS or fighters since they shouldn't give a RWR ping.
Good video. But from what I found, Harpoon is an expensive missile (almost $4M, roughly same price as an S-400 missile). This make this mission $240M just for the missiles! What about trying the same with much cheaper AGM-154? A first flight fires JSOW too low to reach target but enough to trigger missile launch by the S-400 site. Once the site is out of ammo, the second flight climbs higher for the real strike (and probably try to do that before Russian fighters arrive). Of course, this requires S-400 to target AGM-154...
Interesting idea and it got me thinking of return on investment. How much money for a strike vs cost to the enemy. I read recently a newer Russian destroyer is about 1B USD. So in this case it worked out well. I do wonder if this type of calculation happens often.
War is attrition and finance as well as combat. If it costs you £100 million in missiles to sink a 750million ship that could do countless millions if not billions of damage to your fleet etc as well as the strategic loss..... No brainer. Also.... Knowing you have more ordanance to replace what you just shot.... Vs either taking their ordanance out, or knowing the enemy is running out. Cut supply lines etc....
It's cost-efficient to take out the Black Sea Fleet and unblock the ports. Each Ukrainian frigate can export millions of dollars worth of goods. Also this assault is pretty cheap by US standards, who are funding this.
A real HARM would blow up the radar on those ships if it hit. They're quite accurate. In DCS the frag warhead designed to blow up delicate little radars on vehicles will do jack all against ships.
Are you guys having to land on the road before the mission or are you able to start from the road through the mission editor? I can’t figure it out through the editor.
Love these videos. Regarding this one: If the 8 planes released the AGMs at different intervals - let's say 1 minute apart, but on the same course/Nav direction, would the first strikes take out the radars and then the following AGMs would seek new targets, thus trying to achieve a wider strike pattern than just the 3-4 ships hit?
Idk if it's possible to simulate, but I'd really like to see a hypersonic missile vs an airbase or a carrier or something. Supposedly they're almost impossible to shoot down
The AGM-84H/K SLAM-ER, in service with the US and allies for the last 22 years, has a range of about 250 km, and they don't have to be launched from high altitude. Also, they shouldn't all be fired from the same bearing. Spread it out to make defense more difficult. Using 60 is overkill. Since these can target both ships and land targets, take out some of the infrastructure as well. As for the range of the S400 batteries, it would be last-minute detection because these would skim all the way in. I doubt Ukraine would be able to make use of the data-link capability.
That absolute master class comment made me laugh, Cap. Not a master class, an absolute master class. Six Harpoons was really pushing it. Two per plane might've made flying a little easier.
You need to add some SEAD aircraft with HARMS to lead the flight and take out the sams. Like it was mentioned, flying in a line abreast formation might have been a better chance for more ships. Great video nonetheless.
It's a coding issue. The CM802 in the JF17 has the ability to select target size so you can pick either to hit small boats or large boats but AFAIK the DCS harpoon isn't coded that way.
It is harder to defend, since you can't see the missiles. The missiles itself are terrainmasking and have a better chance derecting and locking the ship
I've looked but I can't find it if it exists...but has anyone made a HAROP or HARPY drone mod? I love the HARM missiles but I still feel the HAROP is about the most dangerous thing to radars that exists. Thanks for the entertainment
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Can HARMs be used as anti-ship missiles?
@@TheBKnight3 yes and no. They cannot be made specifically to Target ships. They target the radar, and as long as the ship has their radar on or had it on where the harm could lock then yes it could be used as an anti-ship sort of
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@@Wyomingchief Ah, so the target fleet must be competent and ready.
Eleven Slovak MiG-29s will probably be sent to Ukraine soon. Our country grounded them because they had to be maintained by Russian technicians. We ordered 14 Vipers as replacement, first ones will arrive in 2024. In the meantime, Czech and Polish air forces protect our airspace.
That is why I suggested this setup in the first place
You do realize wars can spread? It's not going to be fun and games with roasted marshmallows and potatoes around the campfire. You are arming the foe of an aggressive nuclear superpower who thinks the USSR was just wonderful.
@@markiobook8639 Russia is no superpower, aside from the nukes, which they won't use, because then, even the few allies they have left would shun them. Their military is just a blown up propaganda bubble, as is shown by the Ukrainians almost every day. Armata, Su-57, and the laughable cardboard Su-75 will never make it to serial production. Even the S-400, which is one of the few systems they actually managed to deploy si vastly underperforming it's declared performance - Ukrainian jets are bombing the Kherson frontline every day, well within the declared range of the S-400 on Crimea, and yet none was shot down. Ukraine is our neighbour, and it is my pleasure that our country can help them even a little to defend their freedom against the empire of shit that is today's Russia!
@@markiobook8639 a nation with a smaller budget than Italy and has lost more then a quarter of its modern tank force. Yeah I have demoted Russia from a major threat like China, to north Korea tier.
I would bring in an FMS/OMS type technicians from around the EU to fix what may be necessary to make them fully functional????
The Ukrainian Neptune missile is far superior to Harpoon and CAN be programmed to look for certain ships (by silhouette) and even pick out where on that ship the missile should strike. The French SCALP based ASM can also perform the same trick.
Neptune is sssr based missile
The US has multiple missiles with more advanced features (including the feature you mentioned, identifying ships against a database which is a feature on the NSM and LRASM), but the primary issue here is buggy anti-ship missiles in DCS as a whole. I don't believe any anti-ship missile in the game works properly to deconflict between missiles based on the overall targeting area and the number of ships post-launch.
Besides that, DCS is using an older variant of the Harpoon, and the US is replacing the Harpoon with the Naval Strike Missile going forward as its dedicated deck-launched anti-ship missile (including the modified NSM, called the Joint Strike Missile, which is fired via aircraft or Mk 41 VLS), in addition to a new variant of Tomahawk with greater anti-ship capability. Then there's the SLAM-ER (command guidance data link, infrared and GPS guidance systems), JASSM, LRASM, and SM-6, which are all capable of hitting ships.
While I agree that Neptune appears to be a great missile, I don't believe they have the quantity available for such an attack, or if they do, they don't want to risk a majority of their inventory. Both reasons would be entirely understandable, particularly manufacturing issues encountered when an enemy is constantly seeking to destroy infrastructure. I believe it's an availability issue in particular, as otherwise, what's stopping them from using Neptune more aggressively since its initial operational success in sinking the Moskva? I do recall one thing though, during the numerous videos and articles reviewing the reported Moskva damage photos, multiple analysts stated the Neptune missiles target the largest RCS area of the ship, which would be the bridge and just ahead/behind the bridge. The analysts noted this falls in line with the impact area shown in the image.
@@jamison884 Can these new naval strike missiles be fired from the same cells as the harpoons? If so, it'd be nice to replace the harpoons on ships and submarines. Keep the old stocks of harpoons as backups or sell them to friendlies.
Finding* a silhouette profile isn't a great method of tracking- it means you have to fire from the exact correct angle
@@Joe_Friday Its in development last I read.
To get a better spread use a line formation, very widely spread, and shoot the missiles along a wide front. You're using a narrow front and everything comes in from the same vector, so they home on the same ship. You had plenty of time to get into a wide line formation (like one plane per mile) so that your missiles would be approaching from different vectors. The missiles would be more evenly distributed between the targets.
yeah do a rerun with above statagy
6:48 Canopy just makes cockpit fill with cigar smoke
agreed
44°32'39"N 33°26'01"E there is at least another air Defence site closer to harbour including radar and multiple launch vehicles
People are going over satellite images searching for missile sites so the wargame is more accurate. I love DCS
@@joejoemyo I mean for War Thunder some idiots shared classified documents of tanks in service and stuff
@@patricktho6546 "shared"
@@thenotoriouspig8864 yes, until it got taken down
@@patricktho6546 until this day I'm still laughing about that
“Grumpnik is back!”
-Dies unceremoniously
That's our Grump!
Grumpnik is always here! Except when he's sitting on an empty fuel pod in the middle of the Black Sea. Send help...And vodka.
Really enjoyed this one, THANKS! The two rolls and the launches looked gorgeous!! Would love to see an update with a more complex scenario: Russian fighters, a Ukrainian decoy/SEAD/Wild Weasel flight, active ship defense, etc. Anyway, this was a lot of fun!!
"Grumpnik is back!" Laughed pretty hard at that, good job fellers.
I mean...Grumpnik is always here! :) Except when he's not.
I love how there is always a crash on takeoff with GR, never fails to entertain-- "Lift gear, then take off right?... ohhhh wait..." :D
Pausing at 5:06 before I see how this works out to suggest a more roundabout route (it would require tankers). Stay out of detection range of the S400. Go south, then east, then northwest. Skirt the mountains at low level, popup just as you round the western tip. Fire away, then skedaddle back south to meet up with the tankers again.
How exactly do you mid-air refuel with a plane that is not AAR capable?
@@WyvernFalken Stop the war on straws. That's how. 🤣
The new generation of ASMs like the LRASM has an imaging IR sensor that can be programmed to hit a specific ship.
Or, if I'm not mistaken, a specific point on a specific ship.
Is it Man-in-loop missile? I have'nt read about it yet.
As can the Ukrainian Neptune.
@@grimreapers it is not, likely can be preprogrammed with certain target parameters beforehand but after its gone its autonomous. perhaps the parameters can be updated mid-flight using the same datalink course corrections are fed through, but that is unknown
You guys are killing it with this great content!
Cap, Ukraine already have Harpoons via a donation by Denmark of ground launch vehicles back in May. Not sure how easily they might be to convert for air launch purposes but they're not unfamiliar with the weapon!
Thanks Dan
As a general rule you guys grossly overload your aircraft, your carriers, and your strike packages.
I wanted to carry 8 but the boys talked me down.
Must be your first GR video, mate. o7 Welcome.
Good video, wouldn't the UAF do a joint mission that includes Drones in order to get the s-400 to engage the drones?. I mean they have some options on the table on how to engage the fleet.
It wouldn't surprise me if the USA and Ukraine are already war gaming this strategy....
There are thousands of variables that could have been involved with this. But like Cap said at the beginning of the video that's not the scope of this scenario. No fighters over head, nothing to interfere with the goal, which is seeing if the Mig 29 can fire the American Harpoon. No more than that.
@@valuedhumanoid6574
We know it can fire the harpoon, that's not anything that needs to be simulated with this exercise. What matters is if the Ukrainian migs can get hits on the ships so I don't understand why we're not really testing that with a more realistic scenario.
The video started off talking about the harm missile but now I guess we're not going to use it 😞
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 Cap mis-spoke when he was saying harms. He meant to say Harpoons.
@@Firedad376
Ohhhh, that makes a big difference.
It's been confirmed that HARM is in use so maybe do a version 2.0 of this video?
He said MiGs have already been adapted to fire HARMS. It should not be too hard to do the same with Harpoons.
Man! Back in the late-ish '90s, I used to play one of the first multi-player flight sims!
Back when everyone was using modems...! First, we had 14,400, then 28,800, and then 56k...
The graphics were surprisingly good for the day but due to irregular modem connectivity, planes would just 'warp' away and you'd have to chase them down to try to get your kill.
The game started out as 'Confirmed Kill' but was later renamed 'Warbirds'. It was a WWII sim and god it was fun to play! You had to type your conversations though because of the low bandwidth!
Seeing you guys in this sim makes me want to go out and buy a new joystick etc, and join in the fun!!!
I had quit playing before DSL came around and haven't really messed with those sims since...
This really looks like a good time though!
Great video!!!
Biden sitting there watching GR. "Hey, guys, I got this great idea..." lol
Hay now don't forget it was my idea
Just having a laugh
If only grumpnik had a canopy to use as a raft 🥲
I had an empty fuel pod! It's all good!
Taking off needs an absolute master class. Cap, seriously? Anyone that has watched more than 3 videos knows that you all are experts at taking off without any problems!
ermmm, as long as there are no follow-up questions, yes...
lol
One pilot said “I tell the plane how to fly, the plane does not tell me.”
As the title of a documentary some time ago “ The right Stuff is now The Wrong Stuff”
That pilot is wrong - no-one flies a fighter jet any more - they direct it. Modern jets are completely unstable - flown by computers.
@@LondonSteveLee exactly, ignoring the electronics often ends in tragedy.
UAF: so thanks for volunteering to conduct this air strike for us so how many harpoons did you say you wanted on the Mig 29's we're lending you?
Grim Reapers: Yes
UH-1H, SA342 Gazelle, and AH-64 Apache VS Mi-8, Mi-24 Hind, and Ka-50 Kamov
You've never done a 3V3 like this! ;)
8:13 - I taught that guy everything I know! The maneuver is called the 'Bamboozled Cobra'!
It really confuses the enemy!
AGM-84 runs about $1.4M a piece for the Block II as of 2020.
When the missiles are more expensive than your plane...
I am guessing that the drag from the cockpit being gone is not modeled in DCS?
AFAIK it's not, but in the JF17 you'll black out from oxygen deprivation.
It would be interesting to see russian submarines launching cruise missiles at land targets being counteracted by OTOMAT Milas AntiSubmarine missiles (basically an antiship missile delivering an active torpedo)
8-9 deg AoA on takeoff is fine (instead of just 5). Nose up to that attitude between 180-230 km/h to prevent the t[i,y]res from popping and let her fly off the ground. FC3 things yo. Attempting to climb aggressively right after takeoff, especially with a heavily loaded plane, is a reliable indication of low aviation aptitude.
You could have used the training two seater mig-29 to solve for the communication with the missiles problem. Having the men in the back seat acting like a gunner, communing data from NATO satellite and awac.
"best thing i can hope to be is a professional idiot" lol
"...or does that mean you lost the thing that was vibrating?"
"Either way is fine."
AWESOME!!! Missed this series.
Great mission - well executed Cap…Thanks! 😃
While you show a 400km circle around the S-400 site you should instead draw a 250km circle as the S-400 from the mod does not fire the 40N6 but instead the 48N6E3 (aka 48N6DM in the mod).
Not that it really matters in this case as you were well within range of either missile.
I do actually have a way of making it fire 400km by merging it with the Triumf mod.
@@grimreapers Is that a separate mod from the S-300 series with S-400 and Pantsir by Strigoi_dk and LetMePickThat?
If so and it's not a private mod if you could let me know where I can find it. I've looked through the GR discord and also the DCS mods page and google for any and all SAM mods but that and the High Digit Sams (HDS) are the only ones I've found.
If it is the same mod, looks like it but you never know, the missiles that are the long range ones are the 48N6E3 (250km) and the short range ones are the 9M96E2 (120km). Of course if it's not the same mod or if the missile has been modified to more fit the 40N6 characteristics than nevermind.
I've merged the S-300 series and the HDS mod together (mostly - can't get the S-300V4 to work yet) for private use, but if there is another mod that adds more SAM capability I'd be interested in adding it too.
Anyways love the content. Your SAM series of content got me into DCS and interested in SAM sites as a whole.
Well, they would target whatever's radiating. The "Russians" here would simply just let their smaller ships take the hits to preserve their heavy assets. Makes sense to me.
That's what I have been thinking. His just getting rid of the old and save the new?
Great, it works :) love all the work you do... soon to help in more ways than comment, but I like seeing the struggle even for the vets. Just watched the new plane release also so combining the comments but yeah always keep me watching. Untill we meet again !
Not sure if anyone's put this out yet, but the Kh-35 (aka the Harpoonski) can actually be fired from Mig-29's and I have no doubt that the Ukrainian version has a similar capability.
thx
Fantastic video! I am not at all surprised that the MiG-29 can shoot American missiles. I had the opportunity to get up close to one of those lovely Russian ladies when I was in the USAF and I've been in love with it ever since.
Have to say, watched the whole vid and enjoyed it! Ty
The Mig-29 is still a great plane, and upgraded with American precision weapons could be just as deadly as the F-16. The drawback is the Mig has a relatively light fuel capacity limiting range
The harpoon needs 115V, maybe at 400Hz, to warm up.
I guess a lot of conversion is required.
Absouletly sick looking fighter jet the MiG-29 in my opinion. I love that aircraft. When I was 9-10 yo I was in an Airshow, where the Hungarian Air Force flying MiG-29 above us in formation. Absolutely stunning view was that, and that was the point when I started to love the Eurofighter Typhoons also from the German Air Force. Such an amazing fighter jets!
SU-27 is better
@@elliott4299 No chance that a Su-27 better than a Eurofighter Typhoon. Maybe better than a MiG-29 but not even close to the Eurofighter.
Love Grumpnic and Damp and CAP. What a group.....
It's been a while sine i've flown a fc3 module, but if i remember correctly you can reset trim to neutral with ctrl + t. That would solve the trim problem after disengaging autopilot Supercap.
Ah I don't need that canopy lol
Grumpnik only stands when he pees!
Very impressed. 10 of you flying. It looked really good as well. 👍😊
Just imagine the amount of fuel being burnt for take off when they're that heavy!
I would love to see in the DCS the new AWACS E-7 Wedgetail. It can fly much more higher altitude than the old AWACS and have a better range because of that, not to mention its new sensors and radars. Some says it can detect a stealth 5th gen aircraft much more earlier than the old E-3 Sentry, also it can defend itself vs amraams. The old version cant really do the same so no more escort needed in order to protect it.
The problem with AWAC is the RADAR range is about the same (or slightly shorter) than the engagement range of R-37. Yes it's unlikely R-37 could engage a fighter taking evasive action - but it'll steer well enough to track an AWAC sized target. Hopefully Russia doesn't have too many of those - but I suspect they would keep some back for exactly this task if things escalate - they'd be mad not to. I wouldn't like to be sitting in a 737 with one of those hurtling towards me!
@@LondonSteveLee Iam not speaking about that R-37 missile. Its more like a BVRAAM than an AMRAAM. :) Also, yes you correct. In real life an AWACS would be destroyed first, before any fighting will happen.(If there is an AWACS)
@@LondonSteveLee an r-37 would have lower range than an AWACS could detect (specifically detect) any non-stealth fighter sized target. also, an r-37 needs (of course) a firing solution which can only be acquired by any Russian fighter (specific distances will vary depending on the launch platform) at a much lower range than the R-37s max range
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 Sure AWACS would and could detect it - so what? You're not going to stop it in an AWACS. You can turn and run hoping you run it out of range and leave the battlefield or get shot down! I would expect western jammers to do well but would you want to bet your life on it?
If those jets took off so close as that to each other, wouldn't they set the guy behind on fire?.
Fire? No. Blow lots of air on and around it? Yes.
17:30. What a shot!
Should have replaced one of those Harpoons with a HARM on each jet.
There's no point in carrying a mixed loadout if there's a good chance you won't live long enough to launch all of the weapons.
The UAF does not have as many fighters as the USAF so they have to play guerilla style.
Get in, launch ordnance, get out.
Flippin’ heck! I’ve got sweaty palms watching this 😱
"Over-yonder" is "That-away's" reciprocal direction.
lol
No that's "Back the way ya came"
I'm sure the air defenses at sevastopol are much denser than this.
Yeah I imagine they are pretty dense. Too dense to see the threats coming at them. 🤣🤣
@@WyvernFalken lol good one!
If you launched from different vectors. Like a 50 mile separation and in stagered waves with the way there modeled in . Would the missiles do a better job of selecting different targets ?
Second fleet sending HARM to the S400 site shortly before climbing and firing the Harpoons should do the trick.
I've always loved the Mig 29.Such a great looking airframe
I would really like to repeat this myself. Can someone suggest me how to accomplish this? I have already flown with HARM missiles (a new mod for mig29). I even tried to change the payload in the Mig29 text file (in MisionEditor/UnitPayloads). But the agm84-d missiles I had used could not be launched, only dropped. I would be very grateful if someone could help.
Kick Ass boys! First time viewer - loved it!
If they are hesitant due to the S-400, why not send in first the SU-25 with HARM missiles to disarm those SAMs (it need those RADARs to operate and be effective), to be followed then by the MIG 29.
The missles ignored the moskwa because they arent anti submarine.
The admiral gorshkov class frigate can shoot the same missiles as the s400 air defence system
Redut system on Gorshkov is S-350
would love to see you re run the mission with two migs carrying HARMs and see the result. will the simulation also include AWACS? I was told there is always a russian AWACS orbiting Crimeria.
Hi! Is it uncommon to attack two locations in modern warfare in one mission squadron? A few mig can deploy AGM88 as the s400 radar is fully exposed while majority aims for ships.
Also, I wonder HARM can seeks and destroy the radar (in different bands?) on ships. Is the missile designed for moving target on the sea?
Thats a good shout, the s400s most dangerous asset is its track radar which needs to stay on for the majority of the missiles flight time, so having a weasal squadron doing SEAD and destroying the track radars would be doing some serious damage.
Also to answer the question, yes they can track moving radars as long as the source remains active. But for the sake of launching HARMs at ships you might as well just launch ASMs since they have evasive capabilities and can be launched from further away than HARMs.
In DCS, I'm pretty sure the HARM just hits the last spot it detected radiation, so if a radar was on and operational, it turned off, and it was moving, the HARM would not track it once turned off. Therefore, I'm not sure if it is capable of hitting moving ships with a radiation signature and I'd love to know what it does in the real world.
As far as a DCS test, I think it would be a pretty cool video to test the HARM against various conditions, such as a moving ground target and both a static and moving ship. However, due to DCS not programming ships in high fidelity, they can't be controlled to turn their radar emissions off to fully test the theory.
In a real mission as long as Ukraine has the spare Mig-29s, they would probably send them in to take out the S-400. However, this video was just to test the Harpoon scenario. It's quite interesting to see the "mighty" S-400 pretty easily defeated by the gaggle of Harpoons. It fired ~60 missiles with very few hits (if any?), as it looked like the S-400 missiles were losing lock during their terminal approach. I'm not sure exactly why, but I guess the RCS and speed of the Harpoons (plus being in a large group) confused the SAMs.
@@gregbarnes4083 Thank you for the answers! HARM is a little faster so I thought it would be somewhat better penetrating the defense than Harpoons would. Mix use of them in DCS may be interesting in future videos? :)
@@nori8627 Now that would be super interesting
My thoughts exactly. "Soften" a ship, knock them out cold.
Sooooo much smoke. Love it!
Weird that the Harpoons don't have a guidance subsystem that detects explosions and switches the missile to a secondary target if the ship that it is tracking is hit by another missile.
Cap please review the capability of s400 in-game, there is video footage of HIMARS hitting a bridge defended by s400 multiple times in one night even pantsir failing to defend it
Are you suggesting that the real life capabilities of the S-400 may be wildly exaggerated? Say it ain't so. =)
Russians dont have any s400s around kherson bridges which is why theyre using harms and himars to overwhelm the panstirs
Already done:
Vs S400 Series:
Stealth Airliner vs S-400 IADS: th-cam.com/video/F-TUS7CBQyo/w-d-xo.html
Tossing Nukes vs S-400 IADS: th-cam.com/video/4qXZaXs9eR8/w-d-xo.html
HIMARS vs S-400: th-cam.com/video/8gAZHMlCNFw/w-d-xo.html
USN ToT Strike vs S-400 IADS: th-cam.com/video/HsR7yniD9UM/w-d-xo.html
Kh-47M2 Kinzhal vs S-400 IADS: th-cam.com/video/DjcQnrvMHbA/w-d-xo.html
Sweden & Star Wars vs S-400 IADS: th-cam.com/video/k303QnlVon0/w-d-xo.html
WWI, WWII & Stealth vs S-400 IADS: th-cam.com/video/nYwUQGoOSu8/w-d-xo.html
USAF 4th Gen Strike vs S-400 IADS: th-cam.com/video/1oQ8I00EncA/w-d-xo.html
Different USAF Bombers vs S-400: th-cam.com/video/aCsboOG0QU4/w-d-xo.html
@@class.C they have a 400mile range (on paper )and it did try to intercept the HIMARS but failed
Speculation in the field is the HIMARS rockets fly too fast, low, and flat for S400 to engage, it is fine against true ballistic missiles coming in from high altitude, or a slower cruise missile, or an ATACMS.
GREAT VID!!!
The most aesthetically pleasing Soviet airplane, armed with 6 American rods in the hands of the Boys. Nice breakfast coffee companion.
brilliant
Hey Cap and the Grim Reapers. I got a question about anti radiation missiles in DCS. Since they lock on to radar radiations, could they be used to fire on AWACS or fighters since they shouldn't give a RWR ping.
Yes they can, but due to some DCS coding it only really works inside of 10nm generally.
Good video. But from what I found, Harpoon is an expensive missile (almost $4M, roughly same price as an S-400 missile). This make this mission $240M just for the missiles! What about trying the same with much cheaper AGM-154? A first flight fires JSOW too low to reach target but enough to trigger missile launch by the S-400 site. Once the site is out of ammo, the second flight climbs higher for the real strike (and probably try to do that before Russian fighters arrive). Of course, this requires S-400 to target AGM-154...
Interesting idea and it got me thinking of return on investment. How much money for a strike vs cost to the enemy. I read recently a newer Russian destroyer is about 1B USD. So in this case it worked out well. I do wonder if this type of calculation happens often.
War is attrition and finance as well as combat. If it costs you £100 million in missiles to sink a 750million ship that could do countless millions if not billions of damage to your fleet etc as well as the strategic loss..... No brainer. Also.... Knowing you have more ordanance to replace what you just shot.... Vs either taking their ordanance out, or knowing the enemy is running out.
Cut supply lines etc....
In this scenario the RuAF should probably just cease to exist and not decide to scramble after waves of mig-29s appeared in the Black Sea
It's cost-efficient to take out the Black Sea Fleet and unblock the ports. Each Ukrainian frigate can export millions of dollars worth of goods.
Also this assault is pretty cheap by US standards, who are funding this.
Well, that is certainly the All-Star squadron.
A real HARM would blow up the radar on those ships if it hit. They're quite accurate. In DCS the frag warhead designed to blow up delicate little radars on vehicles will do jack all against ships.
If all harpoons go for the radar, what weapons do the navy actually have that will sink the ship after they've been blinded?
@@Pax.Britannica harpoons will go for center of mass on the waterline or the deck with a popup attack. I was talking about HARMs (AGM-88).
awesome videos lately cap.
when you gave the plan of attack all I could think of was TopGun Maverick
Thank you.
Are you guys having to land on the road before the mission or are you able to start from the road through the mission editor? I can’t figure it out through the editor.
Make it CLIENT first then ME will let you place it on ground.
I swear I've heard you guys talk these autopilot references before weird deja vu
“Well, that sent a message to Moscow.” Yeah… “Hey! We need some more cannon fodder out here… go raid the local Jr Highschools!”
Love these videos. Regarding this one: If the 8 planes released the AGMs at different intervals - let's say 1 minute apart, but on the same course/Nav direction, would the first strikes take out the radars and then the following AGMs would seek new targets, thus trying to achieve a wider strike pattern than just the 3-4 ships hit?
Yes maybe have 2 Migs stay low and wack the Radar site(s)
awsome job guys, I really enjoy your videos !! And it remainds me of my F-16 flight carrier in the Straydogs 87th miss that
Great content. Keep it up.
Video with Grupnik > video with no Grupnik
Agreed!
Idk if it's possible to simulate, but I'd really like to see a hypersonic missile vs an airbase or a carrier or something. Supposedly they're almost impossible to shoot down
See if you can game it if Ukraine had the same sense of combined arms that we do what their counteroffensive in Donetsk region.
I love this stuff. No real interest (apart from aircraft specs and capability) but this content is osm.
The AGM-84H/K SLAM-ER, in service with the US and allies for the last 22 years, has a range of about 250 km, and they don't have to be launched from high altitude. Also, they shouldn't all be fired from the same bearing. Spread it out to make defense more difficult. Using 60 is overkill. Since these can target both ships and land targets, take out some of the infrastructure as well. As for the range of the S400 batteries, it would be last-minute detection because these would skim all the way in. I doubt Ukraine would be able to make use of the data-link capability.
How do you designate this thing on this thing?
You can;t you just have to dumb fire it and hope for the best.
That absolute master class comment made me laugh, Cap. Not a master class, an absolute master class.
Six Harpoons was really pushing it. Two per plane might've made flying a little easier.
damn one of the pilots flew the mission without his canopy because it came off during take off
The Mig-29s used are presumably the ones provided by Nato countries that were updated to fire Nato weapons some years ago.
You need to add some SEAD aircraft with HARMS to lead the flight and take out the sams. Like it was mentioned, flying in a line abreast formation might have been a better chance for more ships. Great video nonetheless.
Nice mission, Cap. Would have been nice to see the Slava get hit - I assume the missiles don't go for the biggest target?
It's a coding issue. The CM802 in the JF17 has the ability to select target size so you can pick either to hit small boats or large boats but AFAIK the DCS harpoon isn't coded that way.
If line of sight is great protection, why not fly south so the land south of the harbor acts as a screen to the SAMs to the north?
It is harder to defend, since you can't see the missiles.
The missiles itself are terrainmasking and have a better chance derecting and locking the ship
That may help, but greater distance requires more fuel and increases the opportunity for discovery by other radars, ships, and aircraft.
I've looked but I can't find it if it exists...but has anyone made a HAROP or HARPY drone mod? I love the HARM missiles but I still feel the HAROP is about the most dangerous thing to radars that exists.
Thanks for the entertainment
February 28th: "I wonder if the Ukrainians can hold out for more than a week?"
September 6th: "I wonder if the Ukrainians can Taranto the Russian fleet?"
Oh, for a squadron of RN Swordfish. Don't forget they crippled the Bismarck.
@@EdwardPCampbell They have NATO spec Mig29s now and plenty of Harpoons - the black sea fleet is on borrowed time.
@@LondonSteveLee It’s all so automated and computer controlled these days. Gone forever is the era of flying by the seat of your pants.
@@EdwardPCampbell Depends on the system you're using, many still require good piloting and precision.
@@EdwardPCampbell Fallacy- Bismarck was scuttled as proven by diving on its wreck.
Ballard noted that he found no evidence of the internal implosions that occur when a hull that is not fully flooded sink
Ballard points out that the hull is in relatively good condition; he states simply that "Bismarck did not implode."
Ballard added "we found a hull that appears whole and relatively undamaged by the descent and impact". They concluded that the direct cause of sinking was scuttling: sabotage of engine-room valves by her crew, as claimed by German survivors.
William N. Lange, a Woods Hole expert, stated, "You see a large number of shell holes in the superstructure and deck, but not that many along the side, and none below the waterline." The expedition found no penetrations in the main armoured belt, above or below the waterline.
James Cameron: British gunnery accuracy was "mediocre at best", partially due to the "miserable" firing conditions and the ship's list to port, with only around 10% of fired medium calibre shots hitting.
"The devastation caused by the shellfire combined with the effects of several torpedo hits to overwhelm and defeat the Bismarck, causing the ship to begin sinking due to uncontrollable progressive flooding. The German crew sped the inevitable demise of their ship by initiating scuttling measures."
Ludovic Kennedy (who was serving on the destroyer HMS Tartar at the time) "That she would have foundered eventually there can be little doubt; but the scuttling ensured that it was sooner rather than later."
Sorry Stringbags being the little underdog that could is just a fairey tale.
I can see your pilots got drunk last night and having a hard time flying
Interesting simulation