After watching this video, my take is that EV is most suitable within city/urban driving say within 100km radius. Beyond that, hybrid is the best option if one still considers going for better fuel economy. This video reinforces my view that cars are necessity for daily routines in this country. Meaning, if you buy an EV expect that at this moment you can only reap the most benefit of EV driving within city environment with plenty of EV charging stations. If need to travel beyond (assuming the EV owner rarely ventures outside the city), then other transportation modes more viable than EV should be considered.
He just chose the wrong EV for that particular purpose. The mini SE’s range is, well…crap. Besides, there are other EV options available, others with a lot more range thus suitable for intercity/state commuting. But if there’s a lack of charging station, an HEV is the best option for now.
Malaysian government has made EV tax free until 2025 in addition to tax rebate for installing charging facilities. This may be a positive move, but the ones enjoying the perks are from the high income group. I would've preferred a certain sum be charged on top of every EV sales and be channeled into a UPS fund like the ones imposed on Malaysian telco operators to develop rural infrastructure areas. Do this to add more chargers where they're lacking. This can help widen the charging network across Malaysia. Until then, EV ownership remains elusive for general consumers.
Thank you for attempting this feat. It just shows how and where Malaysia needs to improve in order for full electrification. Let's hope that the government will do something in order to accomplish mass electrification.
That's a major problem with electric cars is we have to change our lifestyle to suit the car's charging situation which is kinda idiotic because the main purpose of getting a car is for our own convenience. Instead now we have to cater to the car's "fueling" up schedule. Even if you managed to find a charging station within every 100km, you will still have to waste time to wait at least 30 to 45mins for DC fast charging for a single car. Also electric home charging will not be possible for apartment dwellings. This is why i am leaning towards phev cars instead.
You may avoid electric car option since the world for time being still got petrol. But for your inheritance, they must accept electric car because this is the world direction. The government will implement by stages...
Growing pains I think. When ICE vehicles first appeared, imagine the scene then - having to find somewhere to obtain fuel for your vehicle when there was no such network of stations yet, working out new routes for your journey so that you incorporated points where you could refuel, working with a liquid substance that is so flammable, "this sucks since I can either walk or feed my horse at home" etc etc
This video is great for highlighting the insufficient charging infrastructure in the country currently but it still doesn’t negate the fact that y’all tried to take an EV with the worst range on long road trips. A better example would be the Kona electric with twice the range.
As a local, I was shocked to hear that a trip from KL to Melaka allegedly took 4 hours. Even if you were to start your drive at 8:30am in the morning (peak traffic hours), it should only take 2 hours. (KLCC-Jonker Walk, 147km). Did he take a drive on a day where a political rally took place? LOL.
Thanks for your sharing and extreme bravery to put yourself through all the challenges. Charging stations as we know are still really really unreliable and slow at this point in time. Hopefully, in 5 years' time, things would have improved by leaps and bounds to be more viable and dependable. The critical mass of consumers is of utmost importance to make it a success.
Yes, hybrids are still best leap for time being while pending charging station and grid coverage in 5 years time. 2022 will see more hybrid models launch here. EV is still good if always in Klang Valley, but not for road trip yet.
ROSAK - COMMON Sight in M'sia. Even Air pumps Don't get Fixed for Ages. EVs are A TOTAL NIGHTMARE for Road Trips n Long Distances. 700kms in 3 Days is RIDICULOUS. You can do that in under 10 hrs in a Petrol or Hybrid car. HYBRID Is the Way to Go; 1000km+ per tank of Petrol. 1 tank Gets you All the Way to even Pulau Pinang fuss free. Enjoy the Road Trip and NOT Restricted by Charging Stations n Range.
@@vincecarlo EVs are NOT a total nightmare for road trips and long distances. In China, Taiwan, Norway and the US, chargers are common, and as the number of charger increases in the US it will one day match the rarity of petrol stations. And guess what? Norway has more twice the number of fast chargers than gas stations. EV battery technology is maturing and as time passes the cost of EVs will be driven down and everyone would be able to afford a medium-range EV. Your statement is only valid for Malaysia, and it is pretty much true for the country. But, if the government decides it's time to electrify, increasing the amount and density of charging stations isn't really that hard. 700km in 3 days is ridiculous for now, but with better infrasturucture it will be possible to match petrol cars' trip time. Hybrid is the way to go for now, but it will not last forever. Petrol is still required for the vehicle to operate, and pretty much most of the range on the hybrid is from petrol. Besides, which hybrid has 1000km+ for every tank? I've never heard of anything like that. For now, I will agree with "enjoy the road trip and not restricted by charging stations n range". Malaysia is just not ready for EVs.
@@redballthing 700 kms in 3 days is Simply RIDICULOUS. As U said it. Bikers can reach Pai in Chiang Mai in 3 days fm SG. That's ~2500 kms. Hybrid is the Way to Go, 1000+km range, can reach P. Pinang ON 1 TANK with ease and Petrol to Spare WITHOUT Any Dramas. TOYOTA HAS 20 yrs of Tested n Proven HYBRID Technology thru 4 Generations. EVs are NOT that Green, mining of Lithium is Very DESTRUCTIVE To Mother Earth. Also Electricity in SG is FAR From being Green. Not Forgetting Electrical Grid isn't Even ready for it. CNA should DO a More Balanced Perspective on REAL Green vs Perceived " GREEN ".
While I do have constant laments on how slow Malaysia is in terms of adoption of EVs and charging stations, I can confirm that this test does not represent real life scenarios. As a local, I was shocked to hear that a trip from KL to Melaka allegedly took 4 hours. Even if you were to start your drive at 8:30am in the morning (peak traffic hours), it should only take 2 hours (referring to KLCC-Jonker Walk, 147km). Did he take a drive on a day where a political rally took place? For 4 hours you could drive from KLCC to Johor Bahru with 30 minutes of rest/charging (331km). You could do it with a Hyundai Kona on a single charge, but I would recommend a 30-minute charge along the way.
I bet 4 hours journey included waiting time and charging time. That's up to driver's preference to charge the EV before entering the city? That's real life scenarios imho. Things would get better if there are more charging stations with different types of charging connectors. As pointed out by others, EV is only suitable for city driving at this moment where you can charge your car at home.
Interstate driving with EV has to wait until there are enough destination charging points along the highways. Until then commuting to KL with this 200km range Mini would be fine. Long tail pipe camps may have different opinions. But let's do our bits while we can particularly with high ICE density like KL.
Malaysia is not suitable for EV cars due to 1) The electrical generation in this country is still fossil fuel or coal powered generators. It is better and efficient if consumers were to feed their cars with petrol. The huge loses of energy due conversion in power plant negate the effect of EV cars. Unlike advance countries that has nuclear power plants, it make sense for them to have RV cars. 2) Our equator hot and humid country need the Aircon to be fully operations all the time. That put a lot of strain to the car batteries. Not helping if you caught in a jam and the operation of the Aircon will drain your battery in No Time. Malaysia is best using hybrid cars. Overall we be a greener country if all cars are hybrid or the very least an EEV cars like mitsubishi Attrage. It is really a fuel saver car.
ROSAK - COMMON Sight in M'sia. Even Air pumps Don't get Fixed for Ages. EVs are A TOTAL NIGHTMARE for Road Trips n Long Distances. 700kms in 3 Days is RIDICULOUS. You can do that in under 10 hrs in a Petrol or Hybrid car. HYBRID Is the Way to Go; 1000km+ per tank of Petrol. 1 tank Gets you All the Way to even Pulau Pinang fuss free.
The charging points are relatively new, yet some are already not working. This does not forbode well for EVs to be introduced as an alternative to petrol vehicles.
i think theres two main issue for electric car which are maintenance price(battery, electrical part to move a car, etc) n charging time. i dont know how they can make the maintenance price to be low(i heard it very expensive in country that use electric car widely) but for charging part, i hope car engineer or company can make the battery part more mobile n can be replace more easily so people can buy it like cooking gas(exchange the empty one with the full tank). i think its a game changer to tackle charging time with ease n bring alot of alternative on how u want charge ur car.
ROSAK - COMMON Sight in M'sia. Even Air pumps Don't get Fixed for Ages. EVs are A TOTAL NIGHTMARE for Road Trips n Long Distances. 700kms in 3 Days is RIDICULOUS. You can do that in under 10 hrs in a Petrol or Hybrid car. HYBRID Is the Way to Go; 1000km+ per tank of Petrol. 1 tank Gets you All the Way to even Pulau Pinang fuss free. Enjoy the Road Trip and NOT Restricted by Charging Stations n Range.
FunFacts : Only in Malaysia you are prohibited to use the charger if you are not the premise's customer. For example, if you subscribe for chargeEv in Malaysia, then you decide to charge at any bmw dealership which has the chargeEv charger, which you are not the bmw's customer but you are chargeEv subscriber, you are not allowed to use the charger according to the guard which claims management says so. This is only one example, Im afraid a lot more premises practice this.
But the electric is generated from Fossil fuel and a Electric car has to be driving 8 years or 250,000 KM to be on the same CO2 level as a petrol car as well as the Batteries contains Cobalt which kill young miners. So I am Sorry to say that Electric cars should be stopped.
Why did it take you two hours at Caltex before you could resume your journey? Did you have to wait long for the charger to become available? As others have pointed out, the Mini e only has a real world range of about 160km. Your point is still valid without proper infrastructure (and upkeep) adoption will be slow and frustrating. Even in Europe, independent charging stations can be hit and miss. There is only one reliable network (hint: they make EVs too). What we need is for IPP to get in the game and create networks to sell their product.
When I was younger, my electric rc car toy took 7 hours to fully charge, but the old one only needed a battery change in a few minutes. Electric vehicles need a rethink.
Should have given an indication or perspective that this is a mini cooper EV with limited range relatively speaking compared to other EVs. It's more suitable for city driving and not long range / outstation driving.
I saw an invention by EB user , where by the whole system would recharged again when the vehicle was moving , there were 3 to 4 additional parts to be installed by certified electrician . The charging pulse would resume charging when it detected the decrease of power @ 65 % .When fully recharged the ECU will auto cut-off.And surprisingly it worked . If EB could be done , so as EV.
Acceleration or the lack thereof may affect your fuel efficiency more than trying to maintain a speed. The optimum hypermiling speed may not be 70kmph. Like an engine, each electric motor has a most efficient operating point. For engines that generally lies near the 2k rpm mark, the speed will be based on gearing. Maintaining a low speed will have a lower fuel consumption (l/dt) but does not mean better fuel efficiency (km/l). My experience with a Mazda 2, optimum fuel efficiency is achieved at about 90kmph. (
A Tesla range per full charge of 300-500km range is comparable to normal ICE cars now, that's why they're the world EV leader. EV is much more efficient than Hybrids for running efficiency of 88%, less energy wasted th-cam.com/video/3KeiWtcRFhs/w-d-xo.html
BUY A BYD WITH BLADE BATTERY THAT WILL GIVE MORE MILEAGE !! and can do home charging and hopefully can bring the charger along. But unfortunately not available now in Malaysia !! I will wait for BYD if it ever comes !!
The politician speak brilliantly about safe the planet, about environment friendly living, about the green practice... but it just on paper or in words.
1) one day after all the infrastructures are up, they will tell you that the EVs are not that environmental friendly as well. 2) I’ll be even more frighten if my high voltage vehicle is stuck in the flood 3) the petrol stations can’t make money charging EVs
Regular petrol station would not take 15 minutes... Do you fill a Hummer petrol tank or what?? Regular family cars especially sedan would only take 5 minutes to fill, and probably another 3 minutes to finish the payment. This is assuming no queue at the petrol station.
I can't believe I'm saying this but having a roadtrip across Java to Bali, Indonesia with electric vehicle is much easier as the government built more electric charger in every rest area. It is more and more common to see EV in Jakarta and Java especially. Hope it will be much more available in Sumatra and other islands.
@@jakmarzhall Yet until now, Indonesia only has around 400+ EV charging stations, while Malaysia, after 1 year (since this video was uploaded), already has more than 1000+ EV charging stations & 10 Tesla super chargers.
Why not bring along a small petrol generator. But I don't know what is the specification to charge an electric vehicle whether it is possible? Or maybe the car include a portable charger. I also heard that replacing the battery is like nearly buying a new car.
Small generators don't have the output required to give meaningful charge to the car. Like 5 minute per km gains. A faulty pack can be fixed by replacing bad cells but don't count on it to work beyond 10 years after which it will likely only hold 30% of it's original capacity. By then the cost of repacking the battery will cost more than the resale value of the car.
i am sorry. before even watching your video, i already know how bad charging situation is DC or AC in west or worse east coast. i am not a ev enthusiast but you took a great risk
EV is still very very early in Malaysia and large majority of drivers in Malaysia do not use them, my guess at least 95%. So, it will take a while, probably a long while. But, there's a company Yinson which recently tied up with an entity to spur this next few years, so, let's see.
Charging electric car time consuming. Took a lot of time. Is it safe and reliable re flood and fire hazard. Charging hand phone on electricity is also slow and time consuming.
Aiyak.. I guess wrong car type is being used. Should use Tesla 3 for 500km - 600km range with fast charging time. 200km range is only for town area lah.
Singapore is so obsessed with Malaysias government and infrastructure yada yada. Yet when you lots come here, you didnt bother to pay the traffic summons you collected
I don't see electric cars as practical other than just another city car to do my daily run. The limit for many of these is just 300km. So the service stations need to be coerced to set aside say, 5-10 bays for the charge ports. At every 50km interval for a start. And that's a lot of investment for Mom-n-Pop service stations
Why going through all the hassle of being green where one needing to be stressed out from planning down to waiting at the charging station.. come few years later, one needs to worry about replacing the battery cells.. it would only make sense once the charging stations are properly setup in malaysia
In this video, he is the only EV car on the highway.. just think, if 10% of the highway traffic are EV cars.. now imagine a queue of 40-50 EV cars or more at the only charger you can find along the way? you will be there for a whole day at least or longer, just trying to get a charge to continue your journey.
EV is still a long way to go as infrastructure/technology is not ready to promote the use of EV in a big way. Even a DC charger that takes 45mins to charge it fully is still not what we are used to with petrol vehicle that takes only 5mins. Only Nio with its battery swap facility is the shortest time that we can get at this moment. But I am sure 1 day we will be there. I can't foresee myself buying an EV within the next 5 years but I am sure I will buy one once more charging stations are available.
The best is to have a tow truck following you if you want to travel with an EV car in Malaysia. Their infrastructure (charging stations) are just as efficient as the government.
True. But some malaysians can't accept the bitter truth like the 2 here 🤣🤣 Even asking for the local council to trim the tree also have to wait for months and keep extending the due date 😏🙄
Ev is the end purpose. To convert from petrol/diesel to ev in a single step is not possible. 1. Ev cars at the moment are expensive. Import cheaper ones from China or elsewhere. 2. A range of 200 km should be sufficient for small township and city runs. In small towns most people own landed properties so charging at home is viable. 3. At this moment, hybrids are the most viable option until a good network of charging stations are built.
Wrong concept. Unless you are in Singapore, Hong Kong or small islands this is the wrong way to go. Countries already started the battery exchange stations where you change your battery within minutes with a fully charged one. This is the only best known economical and engineering practical solution. Nobody will wait for up to 1 hour just to charge every 200 or so KMs.
"the most comfortable ride you said"wonderful word the availability of chargers are peoples responsibilty to make but the ev car itself was good enough and very good enough for me rather than ice vehicles,its bad smells of gasoline and engine while running as well as the noise its creating that's why I'll never had a single gasoline vehicle ever since and l prefer to have 5 ebikes now and if God's will an ev car to have one sooner.
Does it has to be fully charge up to 100% , how about 75% and then travel to the next destination and charge , without hving losing time to fully charge it
Malaysia always play it safe battery wise. For most Msians there is no point to buy an EV when the cost of replacing the batteries when they expire are so high it diminishes the EV’s resale value. Of course the EV craze seem to look futuristic and trending on the soc med for those who can afford it. For Msia hybrid tech is the one thing that is practical at the moment. As for the EV…it might work for the purpose of showing off. But to ask for public charging facilities at every stations when there are less than 5 EVs out of 100 cars on the road in Malaysia? That’s a kayangan thing to do to most Msians
You used a very small range ev to do a challenging trip. Your experience will be bad. The outdated mini is not a reflection of the current generation of ev. Current ev can travel at high speed still charging is acceptable
2 hours to get fully charged?? Normal cars while on the move it can charge the battery, but Electric car why the manufacturer did not install the same system as the normal cars? The answer, the government will not earn the electricity bills if the electric cars charge it battery while moving. Good marketing.
Nah, we have a lot of petroleum that's the reason we dont have enough electric charger for car. Come on bro, in malaysia you wouldn't change or use new thing until the problem occur
@@xcre8ionx yeah the road that I'm using to go for work has so many potholes and no one is bothered to fix it~ and it's one of the road heading to KL. Let alone those road that are dug by telco to put in wires, much worse. Pity my brakes
@@xcre8ionx the road still can use, unless our menteri accident or it become hot issues for our politicians use it to show how good and caring the menteri to the rakyat
Let's say magically tomorrow the infrastructure situation in Malaysia solved itself, all the chargers worked, they were all DC chargers and very plentiful to the point of no queuing. You still have to sit around for 45 minutes minimum to charge your car before you can continue your journey. I don't know what you're doing at a petrol station but filling up a car with petrol takes 5-7 minutes, not 15. Green hydrogen has no emissions, is still electric but fills up with hydrogen in the same way (and speed) a petrol pump does. They also have a 800-1300km range per tank. H-FCEV is far superior to battery electric in every way. They're lighter, faster, higher torque, more environmentally friendly and more economical. CNA should do an identical test on a H-FCEV vehicle and see that not only will the full 1200km be possible, it can potentially be done on a single tank.
@@vancekang Telsa supercharge still take 30 minutes. They're also crap, heavy vehicles with no right to repair and little resale value. H-FCEV is legitimately the future
@@who4427 Completely and utterly false. People buying battery electric at making a major purchasing mistake. You can fanboy all you like, but ultimately battery electric was never a long term solution, and you wasted your money if you purchased one.
Hybrid vehicles also lack popularity, full electric ermmm. Fossil fuel is still king here and its also major income for the country. Furthermore fuel prices are still cheap. Thus to see the full electric scene would be far in the future unfortunately.
After watching this video, my take is that EV is most suitable within city/urban driving say within 100km radius. Beyond that, hybrid is the best option if one still considers going for better fuel economy. This video reinforces my view that cars are necessity for daily routines in this country. Meaning, if you buy an EV expect that at this moment you can only reap the most benefit of EV driving within city environment with plenty of EV charging stations. If need to travel beyond (assuming the EV owner rarely ventures outside the city), then other transportation modes more viable than EV should be considered.
You should see a tesla video and look at the range. Damn suitable for smol little malaysia
He just chose the wrong EV for that particular purpose. The mini SE’s range is, well…crap. Besides, there are other EV options available, others with a lot more range thus suitable for intercity/state commuting.
But if there’s a lack of charging station, an HEV is the best option for now.
mini se range is about 200km, other options at least double that
Malaysian government has made EV tax free until 2025 in addition to tax rebate for installing charging facilities.
This may be a positive move, but the ones enjoying the perks are from the high income group.
I would've preferred a certain sum be charged on top of every EV sales and be channeled into a UPS fund like the ones imposed on Malaysian telco operators to develop rural infrastructure areas. Do this to add more chargers where they're lacking.
This can help widen the charging network across Malaysia. Until then, EV ownership remains elusive for general consumers.
Thank you for attempting this feat. It just shows how and where Malaysia needs to improve in order for full electrification. Let's hope that the government will do something in order to accomplish mass electrification.
First, it has to go through validation process of making someone's pocket bigger. Fail that, there's no need for a 2nd validation stage.
That's a major problem with electric cars is we have to change our lifestyle to suit the car's charging situation which is kinda idiotic because the main purpose of getting a car is for our own convenience. Instead now we have to cater to the car's "fueling" up schedule. Even if you managed to find a charging station within every 100km, you will still have to waste time to wait at least 30 to 45mins for DC fast charging for a single car. Also electric home charging will not be possible for apartment dwellings.
This is why i am leaning towards phev cars instead.
Mini cooper is not a good ev.
@@ikmalhafiz2865 it's one of the worst. Once Tesla gets into Malaysia adoption should be much easier.
You may avoid electric car option since the world for time being still got petrol. But for your inheritance, they must accept electric car because this is the world direction. The government will implement by stages...
@@ikmalhafiz2865 This i agree.
Growing pains I think. When ICE vehicles first appeared, imagine the scene then - having to find somewhere to obtain fuel for your vehicle when there was no such network of stations yet, working out new routes for your journey so that you incorporated points where you could refuel, working with a liquid substance that is so flammable, "this sucks since I can either walk or feed my horse at home" etc etc
This video is great for highlighting the insufficient charging infrastructure in the country currently but it still doesn’t negate the fact that y’all tried to take an EV with the worst range on long road trips. A better example would be the Kona electric with twice the range.
As a local, I was shocked to hear that a trip from KL to Melaka allegedly took 4 hours. Even if you were to start your drive at 8:30am in the morning (peak traffic hours), it should only take 2 hours. (KLCC-Jonker Walk, 147km). Did he take a drive on a day where a political rally took place? LOL.
Thanks for your sharing and extreme bravery to put yourself through all the challenges. Charging stations as we know are still really really unreliable and slow at this point in time. Hopefully, in 5 years' time, things would have improved by leaps and bounds to be more viable and dependable. The critical mass of consumers is of utmost importance to make it a success.
Yet now, 1 yr later, there are already 1000+ EV charging stations and 10 Tesla super chargers in Malaysia.
I think hybrid cars are the way to go before ev infrastructure and charging speed becomes more practical.
It should be phev with atleast 60km ev only range and not simple hybrids
Yes, hybrids are still best leap for time being while pending charging station and grid coverage in 5 years time. 2022 will see more hybrid models launch here. EV is still good if always in Klang Valley, but not for road trip yet.
ROSAK - COMMON Sight in M'sia.
Even Air pumps Don't get Fixed for Ages.
EVs are A TOTAL NIGHTMARE for Road Trips n Long Distances.
700kms in 3 Days is RIDICULOUS. You can do that in under 10 hrs in a Petrol or Hybrid car.
HYBRID Is the Way to Go; 1000km+ per tank of Petrol. 1 tank Gets you All the Way to even Pulau Pinang fuss free. Enjoy the Road Trip and NOT Restricted by Charging Stations n Range.
@@vincecarlo EVs are NOT a total nightmare for road trips and long distances.
In China, Taiwan, Norway and the US, chargers are common, and as the number of charger increases in the US it will one day match the rarity of petrol stations. And guess what? Norway has more twice the number of fast chargers than gas stations. EV battery technology is maturing and as time passes the cost of EVs will be driven down and everyone would be able to afford a medium-range EV.
Your statement is only valid for Malaysia, and it is pretty much true for the country. But, if the government decides it's time to electrify, increasing the amount and density of charging stations isn't really that hard. 700km in 3 days is ridiculous for now, but with better infrasturucture it will be possible to match petrol cars' trip time.
Hybrid is the way to go for now, but it will not last forever. Petrol is still required for the vehicle to operate, and pretty much most of the range on the hybrid is from petrol. Besides, which hybrid has 1000km+ for every tank? I've never heard of anything like that.
For now, I will agree with "enjoy the road trip and not restricted by charging stations n range". Malaysia is just not ready for EVs.
@@redballthing
700 kms in 3 days is Simply RIDICULOUS. As U said it.
Bikers can reach Pai in Chiang Mai in 3 days fm SG. That's ~2500 kms.
Hybrid is the Way to Go, 1000+km range, can reach P. Pinang ON 1 TANK with ease and Petrol to Spare WITHOUT Any Dramas.
TOYOTA HAS 20 yrs of Tested n Proven HYBRID Technology thru 4 Generations.
EVs are NOT that Green, mining of Lithium is Very DESTRUCTIVE To Mother Earth.
Also Electricity in SG is FAR From being Green. Not Forgetting Electrical Grid isn't Even ready for it.
CNA should DO a More Balanced Perspective on REAL Green vs Perceived " GREEN ".
Charging time alone is enough for a round trip KL-Ipoh with a spare for sightseeing and makan-makan.
While I do have constant laments on how slow Malaysia is in terms of adoption of EVs and charging stations, I can confirm that this test does not represent real life scenarios. As a local, I was shocked to hear that a trip from KL to Melaka allegedly took 4 hours. Even if you were to start your drive at 8:30am in the morning (peak traffic hours), it should only take 2 hours (referring to KLCC-Jonker Walk, 147km). Did he take a drive on a day where a political rally took place? For 4 hours you could drive from KLCC to Johor Bahru with 30 minutes of rest/charging (331km). You could do it with a Hyundai Kona on a single charge, but I would recommend a 30-minute charge along the way.
I bet 4 hours journey included waiting time and charging time. That's up to driver's preference to charge the EV before entering the city? That's real life scenarios imho. Things would get better if there are more charging stations with different types of charging connectors. As pointed out by others, EV is only suitable for city driving at this moment where you can charge your car at home.
The model of your EV plays a role here too. Mini is one of the worst in the market hence why you wasted a lot of time charging it.
Yeah Minis are fashion accessories and don't excel at any category as an automobile.
Interstate driving with EV has to wait until there are enough destination charging points along the highways. Until then commuting to KL with this 200km range Mini would be fine. Long tail pipe camps may have different opinions. But let's do our bits while we can particularly with high ICE density like KL.
Too dangerous to drive below 70km per hr on the highway.
It's a no go for electric cars unless one single charge can cover 500km range at the least.
lol I always drive Lorry speed between 70km to 80km on highway.
Tesla’s and the Porsche Taycan can cover that range but at that price range you’re better off buying a luxury car or any car you like
@@oreeEE-hc1ip on Malaysia highway 70km/h is slower than buses and lorry hence when try to overtake it can be scary
@@oreeEE-hc1ip fellow hyper-miler . . ?! Yeah . .
Malaysia is not suitable for EV cars due to
1) The electrical generation in this country is still fossil fuel or coal powered generators. It is better and efficient if consumers were to feed their cars with petrol. The huge loses of energy due conversion in power plant negate the effect of EV cars. Unlike advance countries that has nuclear power plants, it make sense for them to have RV cars.
2) Our equator hot and humid country need the Aircon to be fully operations all the time. That put a lot of strain to the car batteries. Not helping if you caught in a jam and the operation of the Aircon will drain your battery in No Time.
Malaysia is best using hybrid cars. Overall we be a greener country if all cars are hybrid or the very least an EEV cars like mitsubishi Attrage. It is really a fuel saver car.
EV is the way forward.
As for charging places, the govt is encouraging installation of charging places
Of course the chargers aren't working in Malaysia.........
consistency
Can't imagine how safe it be for your family to wait around in the middle of nowhere in Malaysia while your car charges up for 2 hours.
Malaysia boleh
ROSAK - COMMON Sight in M'sia.
Even Air pumps Don't get Fixed for Ages.
EVs are A TOTAL NIGHTMARE for Road Trips n Long Distances.
700kms in 3 Days is RIDICULOUS. You can do that in under 10 hrs in a Petrol or Hybrid car.
HYBRID Is the Way to Go; 1000km+ per tank of Petrol. 1 tank Gets you All the Way to even Pulau Pinang fuss free.
@@vincecarlo those gas station owners purposely put the rosak sign, so they dont have to hustle providing and repairing those "unnecessary" item.
Doing a 1200 trip with a 200 range car is hilarious.
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700 kms in 3 days is Simply RIDICULOUS.
Bikers can reach Pai in Chiang Mai in 3 days.
That 2500 kms
Not sure what is the video is trying to prove driving the wrong car for the wrong purpose.
CLEARLY Shows EVs achilles heels are Range, Charging Stations Availability n Pathetically Long Charging Time.
@@vincecarlo he drove the ev with the worst range
The charging points are relatively new, yet some are already not working. This does not forbode well for EVs to be introduced as an alternative to petrol vehicles.
Wow 3 hrs to charge ..u can reach ipoh
We need more DC chargers, and hopefully this would drive the need to get people driving electric.
this car maybe useful to go to work and just within the city. Not suitable for long distance if u need to recharge it for hrs...
i think theres two main issue for electric car which are maintenance price(battery, electrical part to move a car, etc) n charging time. i dont know how they can make the maintenance price to be low(i heard it very expensive in country that use electric car widely) but for charging part, i hope car engineer or company can make the battery part more mobile n can be replace more easily so people can buy it like cooking gas(exchange the empty one with the full tank).
i think its a game changer to tackle charging time with ease n bring alot of alternative on how u want charge ur car.
Happy you did mention the longer range vehicles
ROSAK - COMMON Sight in M'sia.
Even Air pumps Don't get Fixed for Ages.
EVs are A TOTAL NIGHTMARE for Road Trips n Long Distances.
700kms in 3 Days is RIDICULOUS. You can do that in under 10 hrs in a Petrol or Hybrid car.
HYBRID Is the Way to Go; 1000km+ per tank of Petrol. 1 tank Gets you All the Way to even Pulau Pinang fuss free. Enjoy the Road Trip and NOT Restricted by Charging Stations n Range.
This is informative. Thank you CNA for covering this.
FunFacts : Only in Malaysia you are prohibited to use the charger if you are not the premise's customer.
For example, if you subscribe for chargeEv in Malaysia, then you decide to charge at any bmw dealership which has the chargeEv charger, which you are not the bmw's customer but you are chargeEv subscriber, you are not allowed to use the charger according to the guard which claims management says so. This is only one example, Im afraid a lot more premises practice this.
problem is always charging infra (or the lack thereof). for city and you have your own charger at home, no problemo for now.
Battery swap is better than charging. Hope they consider this in future
Could be a 2nd option other than chargers
But the electric is generated from Fossil fuel and a Electric car has to be driving 8 years or 250,000 KM to be on the same CO2 level as a petrol car as well as the Batteries contains Cobalt which kill young miners. So I am Sorry to say that Electric cars should be stopped.
It is all about money and marketing gimmick.
Exactly, unless all electricity is generated from renewable sources like solar, wind power, hydro or nuclear.
That's what petroleum company want you to believe.. and if you are so concerned you will not be using electricity at your house.. hypocrite
EVs are A Farce, Reason to sell a More " Expensive/ Higher " Value car
Why did it take you two hours at Caltex before you could resume your journey? Did you have to wait long for the charger to become available? As others have pointed out, the Mini e only has a real world range of about 160km. Your point is still valid without proper infrastructure (and upkeep) adoption will be slow and frustrating. Even in Europe, independent charging stations can be hit and miss. There is only one reliable network (hint: they make EVs too). What we need is for IPP to get in the game and create networks to sell their product.
When I was younger, my electric rc car toy took 7 hours to fully charge, but the old one only needed a battery change in a few minutes. Electric vehicles need a rethink.
Batteries cost like rm45k. How much are you willing to spend on it? 45k can buy a brand new base spec proton persona now.
@@jasper5097 proton persona is a small, less performing and “average” kind of car that’s why it costs only $14k
And it took a long time to fully charge. This is time-consuming.
Should have given an indication or perspective that this is a mini cooper EV with limited range relatively speaking compared to other EVs. It's more suitable for city driving and not long range / outstation driving.
I saw an invention by EB user , where by the whole system would recharged again when the vehicle was moving ,
there were 3 to 4 additional parts to be installed by certified electrician . The charging pulse would resume charging when it detected the decrease of power @ 65 % .When fully recharged the ECU will auto cut-off.And surprisingly it worked . If EB could be done , so as EV.
You must be very patient waiting for hours while car is charging…and how to fill this time? 😴?
Acceleration or the lack thereof may affect your fuel efficiency more than trying to maintain a speed. The optimum hypermiling speed may not be 70kmph. Like an engine, each electric motor has a most efficient operating point.
For engines that generally lies near the 2k rpm mark, the speed will be based on gearing. Maintaining a low speed will have a lower fuel consumption (l/dt) but does not mean better fuel efficiency (km/l). My experience with a Mazda 2, optimum fuel efficiency is achieved at about 90kmph. (
A Tesla range per full charge of 300-500km range is comparable to normal ICE cars now, that's why they're the world EV leader. EV is much more efficient than Hybrids for running efficiency of 88%, less energy wasted
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BUY A BYD WITH BLADE BATTERY
THAT WILL GIVE MORE MILEAGE !!
and can do home charging
and hopefully can bring the charger along.
But unfortunately not available now in Malaysia !!
I will wait for BYD if it ever comes !!
3 hrs waiting for charging? Geez, i bet this kind of car only suit for singapore only
The politician speak brilliantly about safe the planet, about environment friendly living, about the green practice... but it just on paper or in words.
He would have used a tesla or other models with more range. This car is best suited for smaller cities or for use within a city
1) one day after all the infrastructures are up, they will tell you that the EVs are not that environmental friendly as well.
2) I’ll be even more frighten if my high voltage vehicle is stuck in the flood
3) the petrol stations can’t make money charging EVs
I have a feeling Malaysia might not improve its EV infrastructure anytime soon, considering petroleum business contributes to its GDP
Regular petrol station would not take 15 minutes... Do you fill a Hummer petrol tank or what?? Regular family cars especially sedan would only take 5 minutes to fill, and probably another 3 minutes to finish the payment. This is assuming no queue at the petrol station.
Payment takes less than a minute, filling up maybe 4 minutes the most, unless drive a trailer
I use credit card, few seconds for payment.
@@poon5544 true, in some petrol stations, we just tap our card, seconds later it's approved, less than 10 seconds for payment
@@poon5544 Ya the new pay wave is so convenient, don't even need to slide your card in
I can't believe I'm saying this but having a roadtrip across Java to Bali, Indonesia with electric vehicle is much easier as the government built more electric charger in every rest area. It is more and more common to see EV in Jakarta and Java especially. Hope it will be much more available in Sumatra and other islands.
ofc indonesia is the best in everything
@@cheesecake321-n6w hello
@@cheesecake321-n6w haha.. Lol 😂😂😂
@@jakmarzhall Yet until now, Indonesia only has around 400+ EV charging stations, while Malaysia, after 1 year (since this video was uploaded), already has more than 1000+ EV charging stations & 10 Tesla super chargers.
@@ld-n1648 woow very amazing ya malaysia
The video proved literally nothing other than they chose the wrong car. Great job.
Why not bring along a small petrol generator. But I don't know what is the specification to charge an electric vehicle whether it is possible? Or maybe the car include a portable charger. I also heard that replacing the battery is like nearly buying a new car.
Small generators don't have the output required to give meaningful charge to the car. Like 5 minute per km gains. A faulty pack can be fixed by replacing bad cells but don't count on it to work beyond 10 years after which it will likely only hold 30% of it's original capacity. By then the cost of repacking the battery will cost more than the resale value of the car.
If he hits a major traffic jam, he will be in big trouble.
Not really
EVs don't idle like ICEs
@@Mew-ip3iy Air conditioning will be running.
maybe the company will ask drivers to just carry some extra batteries lol
Should have checked charging points when planning this trip and thus route accordingly. Not after starting the trip and then have to turn back.
Electric car is an idea that the implementation of support will lag behind the take up as I see the gov over hype it.
yeah ill revisit this video in 2040 by then maybe the myvi is still better
Malaysia using fire coal for power generation plant mostly..ev not eviroment friendly in malaysia..
This is my life in summary. Keep moving forward. You keep getting hits, but you don't stop going.
Basically Malaysia the entire nation are not fully EV friendly yet, way to go!
And now, 1 yr later, there are already 1000+ EV charging stations and 10 Tesla super chargers in Malaysia.
Its the starting point for malaysia so yeah
Give solutions and recommendations
i am sorry. before even watching your video, i already know how bad charging situation is DC or AC in west or worse east coast. i am not a ev enthusiast but you took a great risk
Thanks for this, hybrid is the way to go then. (For now)
EV is still very very early in Malaysia and large majority of drivers in Malaysia do not use them, my guess at least 95%. So, it will take a while, probably a long while. But, there's a company Yinson which recently tied up with an entity to spur this next few years, so, let's see.
Electric cars are for short distance travel.
It's advisable to use hybrid car in Malaysia instead and it's really cost effective .. full tank only Rm50 for 600km distance ..
Charging electric car time consuming. Took a lot of time. Is it safe and reliable re flood and fire hazard. Charging hand phone on electricity is also slow and time consuming.
Aiyak.. I guess wrong car type is being used. Should use Tesla 3 for 500km - 600km range with fast charging time. 200km range is only for town area lah.
Singapore is so obsessed with Malaysias government and infrastructure yada yada. Yet when you lots come here, you didnt bother to pay the traffic summons you collected
let them be lah , not like these roads r your fathers roads right?
Haha this video must’ve struck a nerve after showing Malaysia’s inadequacies
Converse is true as well :)
Malaysia bashing statements
I don't see electric cars as practical other than just another city car to do my daily run. The limit for many of these is just 300km. So the service stations need to be coerced to set aside say, 5-10 bays for the charge ports. At every 50km interval for a start. And that's a lot of investment for Mom-n-Pop service stations
Why going through all the hassle of being green where one needing to be stressed out from planning down to waiting at the charging station.. come few years later, one needs to worry about replacing the battery cells.. it would only make sense once the charging stations are properly setup in malaysia
Then there is no point the government encouraging Malaysians to buy EV car as there are few charges along the highway
In this video, he is the only EV car on the highway.. just think, if 10% of the highway traffic are EV cars.. now imagine a queue of 40-50 EV cars or more at the only charger you can find along the way? you will be there for a whole day at least or longer, just trying to get a charge to continue your journey.
@@Glee73 please take note of developments.
Are not you aware how businesses in selling petrol stations pledge to build more charging site.
EV is still a long way to go as infrastructure/technology is not ready to promote the use of EV in a big way. Even a DC charger that takes 45mins to charge it fully is still not what we are used to with petrol vehicle that takes only 5mins. Only Nio with its battery swap facility is the shortest time that we can get at this moment. But I am sure 1 day we will be there. I can't foresee myself buying an EV within the next 5 years but I am sure I will buy one once more charging stations are available.
The best is to have a tow truck following you if you want to travel with an EV car in Malaysia. Their infrastructure (charging stations) are just as efficient as the government.
Haters gonna hate. Please dont bother coming here
dont mess up w our infra stuffs , roads here r to adept the diesel easy way . so much of your ‘ perfect sg ‘
True. But some malaysians can't accept the bitter truth like the 2 here 🤣🤣
Even asking for the local council to trim the tree also have to wait for months and keep extending the due date 😏🙄
@@Puffydaddy123 Lol like how Singaporean dont accept the bitter truth that their gov owe untill 150%? Pathetic!
This year Malaysia already has more than 1000+ EV charging stations & 10 Tesla super chargers (and more to be set up soon).
Ev is the end purpose. To convert from petrol/diesel to ev in a single step is not possible. 1. Ev cars at the moment are expensive. Import cheaper ones from China or elsewhere. 2. A range of 200 km should be sufficient for small township and city runs. In small towns most people own landed properties so charging at home is viable. 3. At this moment, hybrids are the most viable option until a good network of charging stations are built.
Nice investigation, Small but Important First step
Wrong concept. Unless you are in Singapore, Hong Kong or small islands this is the wrong way to go. Countries already started the battery exchange stations where you change your battery within minutes with a fully charged one. This is the only best known economical and engineering practical solution. Nobody will wait for up to 1 hour just to charge every 200 or so KMs.
Battery exchange for EV car ? Which country has done that ?
Mini has a small batt. Go Malaysia in an merc eqs and u will be safer
I bought a hybrid 330e. I will only consider full EV after another 5-7 years.
So what's your real world EV mode range from a full charge & how long is the charging time with a slower AC charger ?
In my opinion, Malaysia should start small like electric motorcycle similar to Taiwan perhaps,just to give a taste of having electric vehicle.
It’s ok, now Malaysia already has more than 1000+ EV charging stations & 10 Tesla super chargers.
Electric are for town use only, not for road trips. The infrastructure in Asia is not ready for that.
y'all should've really chose a larger range ev e.g. Kia E-niro or Hyundai Kona ev
Most people don’t go on road trips daily right?
"the most comfortable ride you said"wonderful word the availability of chargers are peoples responsibilty to make but the ev car itself was good enough and very good enough for me rather than ice vehicles,its bad smells of gasoline and engine while running as well as the noise its creating that's why I'll never had a single gasoline vehicle ever since and l prefer to have 5 ebikes now and if God's will an ev car to have one sooner.
Herm. Tak perlu buat experiment 700km pun sudah tahu ada problem.
At most tow it along the way from melaka to KL loh in a petrol tow truck. And enjoy the breeze in the tow truck. Whats the point man..
Even though green, but slow charging, is it worth it?
Does it has to be fully charge up to 100% , how about 75% and then travel to the next destination and charge , without hving losing time to fully charge it
Malaysia always play it safe battery wise. For most Msians there is no point to buy an EV when the cost of replacing the batteries when they expire are so high it diminishes the EV’s resale value. Of course the EV craze seem to look futuristic and trending on the soc med for those who can afford it. For Msia hybrid tech is the one thing that is practical at the moment. As for the EV…it might work for the purpose of showing off. But to ask for public charging facilities at every stations when there are less than 5 EVs out of 100 cars on the road in Malaysia? That’s a kayangan thing to do to most Msians
You used a very small range ev to do a challenging trip. Your experience will be bad. The outdated mini is not a reflection of the current generation of ev. Current ev can travel at high speed still charging is acceptable
45 mins to charge ? 8 hours round trip for KL-Melaka? 😂😂😂😂😂
I'll take petrol all day everyday
Good job!
Car batteries rly need to be hot swappable
Why drive EV when fuel only cost 70 cents per litre...
Should've test drive with a Nissan Leaf instead which is also the cheapest EV car in Malaysia right now.
Where got 15 mins? Just 1.5 mins max to refill petrol tank
1:20 can’t find your mask right? I used to be that 🤣
Hope in the future EV can have solar surfaces (roof & hood) and wind turbine to recharge the batteries.
2 hours to get fully charged?? Normal cars while on the move it can charge the battery, but Electric car why the manufacturer did not install the same system as the normal cars? The answer, the government will not earn the electricity bills if the electric cars charge it battery while moving. Good marketing.
Give us 1 year bro. The charging stations are still in the planning state but they will come fast. Do come again next year
Yes, and now, 1 yr later, there are already 1000+ EV charging stations and 10 Tesla super chargers in Malaysia.
Nah, we have a lot of petroleum that's the reason we dont have enough electric charger for car. Come on bro, in malaysia you wouldn't change or use new thing until the problem occur
Ya even basic like road also cannot fix.. that's how useless Malaysia is.. pay road tax get nothing 🤣
Truth
@@xcre8ionx yeah the road that I'm using to go for work has so many potholes and no one is bothered to fix it~ and it's one of the road heading to KL. Let alone those road that are dug by telco to put in wires, much worse. Pity my brakes
@@xcre8ionx the road still can use, unless our menteri accident or it become hot issues for our politicians use it to show how good and caring the menteri to the rakyat
Why not go via west coast first?
BMW ev car got one model quick charge 10 minutes can travel 150km.
Well done study.
So whats the motive/agenda/objective behind this video released on state media?
I prefer my diesel ⛽😊😊🤭🤭
Let's say magically tomorrow the infrastructure situation in Malaysia solved itself, all the chargers worked, they were all DC chargers and very plentiful to the point of no queuing.
You still have to sit around for 45 minutes minimum to charge your car before you can continue your journey.
I don't know what you're doing at a petrol station but filling up a car with petrol takes 5-7 minutes, not 15.
Green hydrogen has no emissions, is still electric but fills up with hydrogen in the same way (and speed) a petrol pump does. They also have a 800-1300km range per tank.
H-FCEV is far superior to battery electric in every way. They're lighter, faster, higher torque, more environmentally friendly and more economical.
CNA should do an identical test on a H-FCEV vehicle and see that not only will the full 1200km be possible, it can potentially be done on a single tank.
No u Dun … if it’s Tesla supercharge
@@vancekang Telsa supercharge still take 30 minutes. They're also crap, heavy vehicles with no right to repair and little resale value.
H-FCEV is legitimately the future
@@tjmarx no, it takes 15min for tesla supercharge to reach almost full battery, and the technology is still improving.
@@tjmarx hydrogen storage and fuel cells are extremely inefficient.
@@who4427 Completely and utterly false.
People buying battery electric at making a major purchasing mistake. You can fanboy all you like, but ultimately battery electric was never a long term solution, and you wasted your money if you purchased one.
Can eat magnum ice-cream when you charge. It is cheaper there
Hybrid vehicles also lack popularity, full electric ermmm. Fossil fuel is still king here and its also major income for the country. Furthermore fuel prices are still cheap. Thus to see the full electric scene would be far in the future unfortunately.