The chinese and saudis partially make deserts green, saudis and dutch have exchanged areas where there was sea into land. The spanish i just recently saw have a similar problem to yours and by planting certain plants they seem to have some successes in stabalizing their dunes. I heared that Portugal has some huge water based project to get rare earth from the seabeds somewhere in the atlantic, maybe before investing into that, first safe your coastline i hope you manage. Also ask the EU for help, there is rarely anything else more worth safing than our cultures which derives from the way we live within nature in this case our coastlines no matter which nation. Fingers crossed and all the best from germany.
Because they don't care up in their ivory towers. Who owns and lives in the rest of the lands known as Portugal? Why do so many live on the coastline? Why is there more poor on the coastline? The planning and agenda's of those in power, how much in this post-postmodern world is actually chance. How much was planned and designed?
Strange that no one mentioned that dams are the true cause of coastal erosion in Portugal. Dams prevent the sediments eroded upstream to reach the beaches. With less sediments to replenish the beaches, they keep losing territory. Climate change, human settlements, and so on, they might have an impact, but not as important as dams (the same happens in other regions of the globe.
Dutch Delta works, that is all I can think about - if there is one country that has historically been battling the sea in this case its the Netherlands, God created the earth, the Dutch created the Netherlands. Also we know the waters will rise, no if's and but's. Even here in the Netherlands there is talk about evacuation and deals with countries like Austria to take in people of the Netherlands if worse case scenario happens. South Limburg where I live could become an island. We are the highest spot of the Netherlands. And not much of the Netherlands would survive the extreme predicted levels of sea-rise. There are multiple ideas floating around, protecting more than just the NL by damming off the North-sea & Black-sea in extend. Between UK & Norway, & UK & France; it would protect parts (some larger some smaller) of UK, Norway, Sweden, Finland, small part of Russia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Germany, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, and a small part of France. (There is also talk about a similar thing between UK & Ireland. Which could also make them united as one, pump out the excess water and you got land the Dutch way. But this would have a price; turning the sea into a lake basically, what could be seen as an ecological disaster as well. There probably is no win-win, and still people use fossil fuel planes because of tourism and economies, fossil fuel cars, polluting industries chemicals and plastics, mining we rape the earth and this is part of the outcome. We are overpopulating, and just the fact that I am communicating with you via this medium and the technologies to make this possible - can we live without them? The device has plastic and minerals/metals needed, power & power plants, data centers, all this also produces heat. We are heating up the world with our lives. Cities and metropolises and cosmopolises - they hold on to heat why they are warmer. Huddle together for heat, is a tactic to survive colds when with a group. Also we keep forgetting that the Antarctic is a landmass maybe for the new Prozac nation? Living conditions would be less ideal there probably, but it would also have potentials. However certain humans have probably evolved better to be living there than others. People at the top of the North pole. Their seasons and conditions are not the same as at the equator. Also with possible shifting poles, also when the ice is no longer pushing down on the Northern and Southern axis, who knows... many speculations, and parts overlooked. We don't really know, we can't really predict. Look at freak weather events and our lack of predicting, working with these. The working class still has to face the same daily routines to keep the economies turning. Which brings us to automatizations, bots & AI - this class of people is for large parts expendable to those in power. They are just a number - worker bee 17.245.890.333. Look at the pandemic over the past years, who got richer, who didn't. This trend is seen throughout human history. (the) Exploiters & (the) exploited. The rich and ruling (elites) & the working class and the poor. And some people will do a lot for money / survival; why there are these businesses/corporations tied in. They offer money and let others do their dirty works. How much will humans be part of the mass extinctions taking place at the moment on earth. Over fishing, bee extinctions, pollutions. And they know because we already have bots to do that job if need bee. Look at the the things they made, why? Georgia Guide Stones? The New - New World Order? Homo Deus? What is the Order in/of the World? How are Americans doing? They claim to be the global leader. And if not how are the Chinese doing, the average people of course? And if this is not the next power in line; how are the average Russians doing? Life expectancies? All these aspects of humanity are tied in together - why has no one done anything / not much against climate change - how long was there the debate between denying and inactivity? And who is suffering the most? The poor, those that did the least in causing this. That is human history 101. We all pass away in the end (or no longer - but again this is not for the poor or working class; they can't afford this). Legacies and family/generational wealth (power). PS economically seen; the millionaires are the new "working-class" in our post-postmodern system with the world richest. the top has most of the money hoarded, the bottom has the crumbs that keep the illusion of economic circulation going. All this is popping, people have been waking up and presented the next/newest illusions ; meta & cryptocurrency. That is the reality, not for the poor and working class living their daily lives/struggles. But for the people that feel and think they are above that, superior to that. Nurture & cultures / societies. Do these richest countries/empires have social structures? Now still wonder why we have been failing? Portugal also has an very interesting history, human history, cultural history. Why do so many people live at the Portuguese coast, and what about the lands more inward? People and living at coasts, because that is more easy. Or it used to be. Why so many poor there, who owns the lands inward? Economies, exploitations, and slavery - Portugal or should we pin this on Spain? I am a Dutchy - the Hollanders and Zealanders did the same? Why and how The Netherlands could exist, why I am not German, French or Spanish, or Roman if we take it back to the historical civilizations, and not the prehistoric - Doggerland, just to bring it all back to the start about damming off the North Sea. What is constant in this world? Or cut our losses and run? Going savage and wild? Take what we need - like the rich have been doing in history? Just invade homes / lands of peoples? Eat the rich? Take the ice-cream and cake? Humanity could do so much better!
it shows, but it doesn't shows often enough in my opinion, sometimes national media remmembers that erosion exists in some areas, but doesn't show the complete picture, scenarios and what we really should do, its more constructive documentarys and news reports that we need to make people more aware and make them want politicians to fight more.
Harsh reality...it make me sad to watch this video. I feel for these people, and for humanity. We are truly caught in a catch 22 reality. How do we ride this wave?
@@MariaDiazskn Where I live, the coastline is rockier and higher. Less prone to erosion... Not saying it's not a problem but it's not as bad as down there...
in portugal it's like we all know, it's in our subconscious, everyone already had casual talkings on how the beach was bigger when we were young...i mean in costa da caparica, right across lisbon it's a huge problem, so it's not like all governments were unaware...i guess we just simply already accepted that will happen. i really hope something is done.
@@0dyss3us51 people complain very softly about it. and you see local city halls putting sand before summer in some places (like in costa da caparica). but it's a bit like when you seen someone growing during your whole life, you dont notice they're growing cause you're there the whole time. for most people in portugal i would say that's exactly it.
If y’all tear down the houses you will have beach. The beach is moving inland. Same situation in Florida USA. Every time it rains in Miami it floods with Sea water. The Government has spent millions and millions on pumps. It’s ridiculous!!!
Great documentary. My only request as someone in Jamaica, and never been to Portugal - a map of the country showing each town you interviewed at before the start of each interviewed.
I'm 32 years old and I'm from a small town near Furadouro. When I was a teenager the sea front shown on minute 22 used to have beach; and all of that disappeared in less than 15 years. Used to be my favorite place in that beach because it was protected from the wind and the waves were attenuated massively (because there are more rocks into the ocean, we call them paredão). In this last 15 years things have changed massively: One of my favorite restaurants for fresh fish (called Maganinho) started to be flooded during winter. Common for the main avenida to be flooded. Most of the beach front was lost. Government had to create more and more paredões (plural of paradão). Used to be paradão into the sea but now even parallel to the cost (Paradão Sul). Etc Furadouro used to be so lively during summer... Also Torreira, São Jacinto and also a part of Furadouro has see on one side and river on the other. So the people are a bit stuck between bodies of water.
I'm sorry for your losses of your paradise. You are not alone, and we all contributed. the 80's & 90's and the rise of the trend of: Global warming aka Climate change. What did we do? More planes, cars, and pollutions happened since then onward - to feed the beast; Economy. Tourism & Portugal - you need it. And now the paradise has been lost - story of our lives. Exploitations of humanity from nature and all living things.
I'm Portuguese. When the video started and you showed houses falling from the cliff because of erosion, you forgot to mention, THEY WERE BUILT ILLEGALLY!!! That's why they are falling, they not supposed to be there. And the fishing situation was created by the European Union and their stupid rules!!!!
Sky News spend every night claiming that climate change is a lie, fostered by the ‘mad’ left. I don’t know who is pushing this idea, but they are not helping. Murdoch has agreed that climate change is a fact but his not-news outlets say differently. They need to hear from every person who knows and can show what’s happening here in Australia.
Unfortunately, people on the coastline are affected all over the world and not only in Europe. They should bring their fight at the planetary level where they can get more support from other nations caught in the same situation. This is a global problem; no government can fix it.
The coast of England also has quite a bit of coastal erosion. I've got a map of England from the 1930's showing how much land England has lost to the sea. It is quite a bit.
@@Communism.is.a.cancer No, not everything is on the internet. It was also from a 'World of Wonder' Encyclopedia, of 1936. And no, liberalism is not always 'syphilis of the brain'.
Excellent documentary. There's no doubt that the sea is rising and we will all face this problem in a near future, but it leaves out two important details: One, the fact that the coastal erosion in the northern part of the coutry (mostly in the Viana/Esposende areas) were exponentially increased by the construction of pontoons in the 80s and 90s without any concern or insight on its consequences. The tides come mostly from the northwest diagonally and as soon as a pontoon is built, theres a swirl efect on the south area of the pontoon that digs into the cost. There is an excellent example on the Praia da Amorosa, Praia do Castelo and Foz do Neiva of this effect, due to the fact that Viana build the first pontoons and Esposende didn't. Second, and while there is a lot of concern from the authorities on the demolitons of the restaurants in Apulia and in other areas, at the same time and just a few quilometers away, some VIPs are still alowed to build brand new houses on top of the dunes and some even closer to the sea - in the same municipality. But overall an excellent documentary and it does shine a light on a very important issue. Thank you for that.
Very important details that would never make it to the political headlines because it doesn't help the left and green extremists in their cause to control the people.
Thank you for adding this information .... also a question could be did they forget to include, or where they not allowed to include? Money, money, money.... greed and corruption are human conditions, the lack of care for the poor are human conditions. Human history shows this over and over.
Look up the charts, sea levels haven't changed for 60 years, you take all this crap in like a toilet...do some research. How do you think continental drift works you nitwit, its nature.
My grandmother had a caravan @ Hornsea I'm guessing 15 metres has been took in 20 years that I know of You can see the lookouts on the beach from WW2 That was once in land
Sea levels have been rising since the last ice age, over 12.000 years ago. Destroying dunes, building towns right on the water's edge, mass tourism with hotels and appartments all on the coast. It is a time bomb and a totally predictable one at that.
One thing to remember is that the country is also gaining land, so this is partly natural. The city of Obidos was a costal city 400 years ago, now it sits 10 kilometres from the ocean. Many other cities and towns also used to be closer to the water and are now landlocked. When my parents were younger there was a city that would be surrounded by water when the tide moved in, now the ocean never moves in that far.
Indeed, this is happening all over the world. I lived most of my life in California, and now I live in Portugal. We had the same problem in California of beach, erosion, winter storms, and floods, and houses falling off of cliffs and bluffs that overlook the ocean. Some communities tried to put up big walls to protect their million dollar homes which just caused more erosion. These wealthy people expect the government to save their properties and it’s just not possible and nor should they expect it. They took the risk when they built or bought their house where they did. It’s always amazed me after terrible fires or beach storms that people would go back and build at the same locations where their home was destroyed. What are they thinking? These are not places for people to build residences. The natural forces and the risks are just too high no matter what kind of view you have. And everybody should live on higher ground. Nobody should live at the beach, unless it is elevated to some degree above the ocean. Tsunamis can come, and your house will be taken with it. Like in England, many small communities in California have also had to come to terms with the fact that there is no saving their homes, and people need to plan to relocate.
Well said, it's not rocket science that over a given period it's likely that any coastal area is going to be affected by erosion. There are no doubt hundreds if not thousands of examples of unusually big storms coinciding with Spring tides that shift unfathomable quantities of sand over a period of a few weeks. There's an example in Cornwall in the UK where in the 1700's a deep water port was filled with sand from the cove around the corner. The Cove had been a sandy beach and was left rocky bereft of sand and the deep water port was rocky and sand free was turned into a sandy beach in a matter of a week. If you're going to build on a beach, you have to consider it as a potentially short term prospect and agree to clean up the mess when your house tips into the ocean!
During my 59 years of life in Portugal I have NOT seen the sand or the coast recede permanently, in any part of the coast, except where stone piers were installed. These piers stop the sand from circulating freely along the coast depleting the space between the piers of sand. If humans stop interfering with the coast, the sand will come and go as it has always been. I have seen the sand disappear up to 4 meters below the normal level, only to come back after the next storm.
Does not take a genius to figure out building your home right next to the ocean might not be a good idea. My pop always told me to build at least 75 feet above sea level and anything you build below that, expect it to have some kind of water related issue down the line. His advice has never failed me.
Most of the erosion is caused by greed and corruption wich allows the construction on dunes and sand dragging on tiver mouths like Tagus rivermouth where the natural movement of the sand was stopped by the dragging to allow Cruise ships and other to travel freely trough the canal. Nature is doing is natural job to remove the sand from the beach and sending it back to the rivermouth. Almada municipality has spent hundreds of euros to Pump sand every 2 years and Will continue to do so with tax pay money and the problem continues. So this is not just a nature issue altough it helps the sea rise due to climate change and all that but on Portugal some people are responsible for this matter and they know it but probably someone big is the owner of the sand pump company and is profiting from this natural disaster.
The problem is not with the tides it is with the ENERGY IN THE WAVES. If a reef of seaweed was artificially planted offshore then it would remove some of the energy in the waves, which would reduce winter flooding and also aid fishing. Hard, non-yielding structures will not stand up to the power of the waves and rising sea levels. It should also be possible to remove some wave energy with electricity-producing ducks. If all aspects of this scheme were added it would show cost effectiveness, however without re-freezing the polar ice caps, sea-level rise will continue.
I grew up on the Portuguese coastline. I thought the issue was always building too close to the sea 🤔 and also building too many peers and walls that block sand movements. We really need to get rid of the walls I think.
The wall should prevent erosion of land that is behind the wall but makes the erosion of sand infront of the walls faster. But if you take away the walls the choice is to move the houses further inlands because the land will be washed away by the sea. With no walls the beach will move further inland. That is what I think. Piers prevent currents that transport sand sideways, so some beaches will gain of the piers and some will lose incomming sand.
From Portugal to the World.....I confirm the restaurant Cabana (at Apulia) is a TOP Restaurant!!!! The only situation that is very difficult to get a table because there are always a lot of people waiting!!! Abraços
@@motttta the dutch sea is 95m deep, mean depth. the atlantic is 4kms deep, mean depth. Probably won't be as easy if you gotta fill in 4kms of missing land...
They fight the sea with huge concrete. dams and dikes. They are under sea level, its totally different from Portugal. We have 900 kms off coastline, mainly beaches. The dutch they have a tiny coastline, without beaches. The ducht experience, Has nothing to do with the Portuguese reality.
@@braveconcepts if it was the case, Portugal already had seek some kind of "help" from the dutch. But like i said, its a completly different situation.
Is it me or is it not what we learned in high school geography?, If you build walls in our by the sea, it blocks the movement of sand which causes the replenishment of beaches to be blocked. The more man meddles with nature, the more our environment is disrupted. We need to remove walls and barriers from the sea and in time it will restore itself.
Of all the species Mother Earth could continue to thrive without, it would be the one that rapes, pillages and exploits her resources more than any another ......humans, the never ending virus.....
I do believe this is 1 fight, we as a humane race severely underestimate and can never win.. There is no human intervention for what the ocean & mother nature has in store for the future...
Not just the sea on the coastal areas, even Tagus River that comes from Spain towards Lisbon to the ocean, is eating away some zones of land, and in some places, it has almost no freshwater, so the salt water is taking over and coming from the Ocean taking over places that are beautiful in the zone of "Ribatejo", it is Brackish water that destroys plantations, fish and many more.
I think it is not quite that easy. Not all coasts and seas are built the same. This is a bit of a different kind of beast. It is a coast that at many places rises quite apruptly from the ocean floor where it meets the Atlantic Ocean as the edge of the continent. In comparison both Israel and the Netherlands are not quite as exposed that might make it difficult for Portugal to have the same success in rebuilding their coastline, unfortunately.
Not the same as Holland, in fact completely different coast, seas, sea bottoms, an totally different problem!The issue here in Portugal its not draining n control the water invading a country largely below sea level (which is basically what the Dutch do very well… when the ocean doesn’t take it all as it happens from time to time). In fact our problem its coastal erosion. Same problem of 70% of the coastal regions around the planet, according many scientists caused by the rise of the oceans level. Basically the same “fight” of all coastal countries of the world… Amplified and more serious when it hits populated areas. Which is the case of Portugal where 3/4 of the population lives by the sea. Simple as that!
In general, this has very little to do with climate change and far more to do with trying to fight the natural processes that occur in the coastal zone all over the planet. The shoreline moves with the tides, waves, swells, seasons and over the course of time, building up in places, and eroding in others. Obviously, in retrospect, nothing should be built on top of sand dunes or sandstone bluffs, they are inherently unstable and shift over the course of time. But we can't change the past, so sometimes creative solutions such as building an offshore reef could be warranted to save what has developed along a particular section of the shore over time.
Look back before the ice age. The sea covered a lot more earth. Now since the ice age ended 15,000 years ago,the earth is slowly getting back to pre ice age.
strange that the island of Aruba which is really small ( i have visited twice since 2003) isn't loosing any beaches at all but other places are? if the sea level is rising is it rising all at once or just some places like a sea saw?
In South Africa we have had the same problem in the Cape. The problem has been solved or at the very least greatly diminished by something we call "dolosse" or tetrapods. These are concrete structures that are put down where the water breaks and prevents the land from washing away.
That last fisherman with the idea for his project is absolutely correct!! We know that they are a South African invention/design born of necessity and that they have worked well for decades now. They are inexpensive to make and simple to drop on site. They are also very easy to copy!
Fix one thing and you make another problem. 20 years ago the whole beach dropped 4 meters at Salt Rock Ballito , one nature may bring it back. We are not in control and never will be.
I'll remind you that the Netherlands has been holding back the ocean with great success for many decades now, even raising entire provinces from the seabed, but you can not do it by shoveling some sand onto a beach, it requires many billions of dollars of investment into professional hydraulic engineering projects, as well as the creation of forts, PROPER dykes, sluices, pumping stations, you name it.
@@imjusthappytobedepressed1123 Yes, the Netherlands is an example the rest of the world should look to for ideas about the correct approach to the problem.
Yes!. They have created their own doom by existing on an earth that USA and China are polluting up with Carbon causing sea levels to rise... wait a second. They are the victims. Look to the countries with the greatest GDPs and Carbon emissions if you wish to point fingers. Portugal is doing what they can to keep citizens happy. They can't fix Americans destroying the world.
@@0xsergy It's not the sea level raising that causes the erosion, it's the sand not being naturely repositioned in those points. Dunes invasion, dams on the rivers, dragging of estuaries, pontoons along the shores to "protect the beaches". These are old problems, long time ago detected but nobody has done anything. And believe me, the Portuguese governments don't give a shit about citizens happiness.
I have an idea, can tesla valves be installed along the coast? Think a continious off coast stone wall like structure. It should has openings, perhaps half of the wall should be opening. And those openings should be prepared like tesla valves. That structure could be designed as an oyster reef. It could be a home for many rock and sand creatures and icrease fish population. And most importantly it could decrease the power of storm waves. And when high tide or wind currents came carrying sediment, could enter easily, but ebb current can't leave that easy. The slowed back current can enable the sediment carried to settle, and that can build the coast perhaps. However I can't simulate it and not an expert at coastal engineering
Thwaites glacier is going to be the next gear up in sea level rise , great to see a bit of the world greater to have some context on were the extra water and how much is comeing soon
After replenishing the sand on a target size and area, you could build a natural defense on some part of the beach. If a mangrove would survive, it will help to hold the sand intact.... and when it grows and vast, it can also block waves..
Seems to be a bit overdramatised. I've always lived on the coast and yes, I see the beaches reducing their size and the sea coming to the streets in case of big storms, but the same happens everywhere. If you go to these places you'll see people buying apartments and houses as close to the front as can be at absurd prices. So, I don't see anybody worrying.
Auntie maria. it doesn't hit home yet that is why you are unconcerned. but you can see locals losing their minds here while you are being served with o Telenovas to distract you from it all.
I love the sea but I wouldn’t dare live close to the sea. That’s the consequences of building houses near the sea. What do they expect ?! You can’t control the sea unfortunately 😔🇵🇹🇬🇧😘
O que passa em Opulia ( o como se chame) o sr. Vestido de vermelho tem razão com o seu projecto. Isto se chama rompe ondas ( braking waves ) sim é efectivo mas tem que ter varios , Com um não é suficiente. Ao ser océano Atlántico devem edificar cada um com uma distancia de 50m. Como mínimo entre eles y Contando desde a Praia devem de ter uma distancia de 60m de largo ou máis mar adentro. ( Antes se debe de fazer um estudo y ver o ponto máis forte donde rompe as ondas, para ser máis exacto.) As ondas rompem dentro do mar y quando chegam a areia Já vêm máis tranquilas. É bom para os pescadores que saêm y chegam sem dificuldades, é bom para os banhistas que não há tanto perigo, é bom para as dunas que se mantêm por máis tempo. Mas há que ter presente a observação e o mantenimiento do projecto. Nos temporais em inverno podem ficar danificados. Deveriam de ser construidos com muitas rocas de grande tamanho fazendo um paredão mínimo de uns 8 metros de largura 60m de comprimento e 2 m de alto y hormigão não poroso por encima deixando esa parte lisa para se poder caminhar desde a Praia até ao final. As rocas ficam unidas entre elas e máis difícil que a oleagem as mova. Esas zonas podem ser usadas nos períodos de oleaje baixa como plataformas para os aficionados á pesca com anzol. Ou outras actividades como a recolha de mexilhoês , lapas , etc que com o tempo procuram as rocas como base de apoio. Uma sugestão; Ao fazer o paredão, ( rompe olas ) A superficie plana que seja máis baixa Do que as rocas a sua volta. Dará a ideia de um barco . Se alguém é surpreendido por alguna onda não caerá ao mar ficará dentro da zona protegido pelas rocas e terá oportunidad e tempo de pôr-se salvo.
The same thing is happening in puerto corinto Nicaragua, the sea has won meters eatteng the beach and the authorities just put a lot of stones and now we don't have beaches
Which beaches are you refering? If you talk about Portugal some places do have a problem due to illegal construction in dunes. Usually people with money and connected to the local governments. Some places in the South , region of Faro decided to put a stop to these constructions which was a bold move due to conflicts with the population. But in the long term that is the best option because the dunes need the space to move .
The people that were building on the beaches were not rich... They were mostly fishermen.. now... The fishermen sold then to rich people for profit, yes
Mother nature is the boss Move the road and the buildings Plant some trees in the surrounding areas Omg reclaim the beach A beautiful private public beach What do you want? Old buildings and a misplaced road Or paradise?
Thank you for this good documentary! Portugal's worst problem will indeed be the rising sea levels, wich rises the intensity of coastal erosion! Not droughts, not floods, but the receding coastline will be the most expensive and disruptive effect of global warming here! As a weather and climate change channel created recently, we monitor periodically places like Costa de Caparica, who also has a big problem with erosion, and suffered a lot in the past decade! More places will be monitored monthly in the future. However, it's not only rising sea levels due to climate change who causes the extreme erosion! Dams prevent the arrival of sediments who otherwise would get to the beaches and would delay the effects of erosion, we obviously will not demolish the dams. Artificial beach nourishment delayed also erosion in Costa de Caparica, and it's a good measure, however it's not long term, or even medium term, and without other measures, would not protect our most damaged places from 10/20 years from now. We need more! Replacement of entire villages and cities in our coast it's almost impossible and only should be done in the most extreme and dangerous cases, but we can defend them better, we should fight more, there must be political will to spend more money in it, and really protect our coasts, people, their houses, and our patrimony, if we don't start doing better now, we will lose! That is one of the reasons we exist, there is still a lot of people who doesn't care about this or deny it, we want to show them that this is SERIOUS, and help create awareness, to make politicians even more willingly to act with REAL and complete plans to the medium and if possibily long term, we really hope Portugal do more about this.
Im portuguese, from one of those regions being afected by the sea levels. My conclusion is that is pointless employing more funds to solve this problem. This is the nature calling. The country has to adapt and forget about how it was. Same for other countries with same problems. Said but thats life. There is nothing that we can do against it.
If they truely want to solve this problem they need to accept help from the dutch, we have been holding back the sea succesfully for a long time, as well as raising entire new provinces from the seabed, we have the technology and skill required to defend any country from the rising sea levels, if they are willing to pay for our work of course.
@@bolsa3136 That doesn't matter, it's not a case of copying what we did in the Netherlands, but rather taking that technology and adapting it to portugal's terrain.
@@tubarao1143 There are dozens of ways of getting around that, modern hydraulic engineering is far more advanced than it was when the largest of our coastline defenses such as the Afsluitdijk were created, besides, when dealing with nature you have to think out of the box.
@@imjusthappytobedepressed1123 The mean depth of the north sea is 95m. The mean depth of the Atlantic Ocean is 4000m. It's not easy to fill in 4 kms of missing land... unless you're an anime protagonist. ;)
As a portuguese our coastal towns will sink if we don’t build a wall the North of Portugal and Castelo Branco has Mountains. I’m from Tavira which is coastal but has some hills up to 300M so if things get bad we will have to keep moving up in the night the river gilao is Up to this bridge that extends to probably about 20M high I see it through the soil. Although it was exposed for 1000 years we never received flooding but during the winter I see tonnes of water flooding our streets. Hope to wish for the best for Portugal and coastal areas
It's possible to stop the erosion off the ocean , but they nee to installing rock barriers at an opportune angle nearly paralle from coastline and not 90 dr from costline. Reference can be seen in Italy in the city of Pescara in Abruzzo, where 40 year ago the sea was spraying water on the road , now after the installation of rocks barriers, there is more than 150 of send. Pescara it's just 1.5 m above the sea level ! What i see it's just a result of incompetence and neglec so sead to see !
This is a good example of why we are screwed! How much diesel is burnt to keep a pretty beach? If your property is under threat from the ocean... come to terms with it, preferably quickly!
I'm always optimistic about this kind of issues. Don't panic because of the sea or because of the climate change, BUT just move a bit deeper into the mainland. It's not difficult to change your life this way. I know it, cause I'm from an international family and I grew up in different countries. Adaptation is always better than panic and conservatism
Optimistic? 1. You try moving to another location and sustaining your livelihood. How are you going to pay for the new house? Who's going to compensate your old house? What if you need to get a new job? 2. This isn't just about Portugal. It's happening worldwide, and guess what, it will happen where you live. "Not difficult to change your life"??
We seem to know too little about protecting coastal areas. Wouldn't dune planting be significant, in spite of inevitable sea level rise? And wouldn't curved jetties (instead of perpendicular ones) deflect the power of waves by dispersing their strength? What about creating stable land: permaculture techniques build rich soil quickly and very, very cheaply. Resettle on higher ground.
Its unbelievable that everyone is complaining about the coastal erosion but keep on missing the cause. The Portuguese government has been telling ppl not to build housing near the coastline and are prohibited in most cases.
It is one of those issues you need to think about carefully whenever building your house so close to the sea, one day the sea is going to take back what's once belong to it 👨🏼🌾👩🏼🌾.
strange no one talked about sand stealing for island building like the World and Palm in United Arab Emirates. if you take from the bottom of the ocean It will eventually fill back in from the beaches
Mother nature never promised us for ever... We came, conquered and expected forever.
She gives back if you do
Exactly, our time is limited and the first cracks in the fragile world we build for ourselves are showing
I guess this is human nature; to expect stability. Now what? This is what each of us must decide, individually, or with friends and family.
Beautifully said. from Ireland 🇮🇪
We never conquered!!We damaged planet Earth!!.Now humans are facing the calamity of ignorance and greed!!
I'm from Portugal and although we are all aware of this problem, the consequences are rarely discussed in our national tvs.
Is not real.
The chinese and saudis partially make deserts green, saudis and dutch have exchanged areas where there was sea into land. The spanish i just recently saw have a similar problem to yours and by planting certain plants they seem to have some successes in stabalizing their dunes. I heared that Portugal has some huge water based project to get rare earth from the seabeds somewhere in the atlantic, maybe before investing into that, first safe your coastline i hope you manage. Also ask the EU for help, there is rarely anything else more worth safing than our cultures which derives from the way we live within nature in this case our coastlines no matter which nation. Fingers crossed and all the best from germany.
Portugal is not important tho, it's okay:)
Football is more important than climate change in Portugal. 😆
Because they don't care up in their ivory towers.
Who owns and lives in the rest of the lands known as Portugal?
Why do so many live on the coastline?
Why is there more poor on the coastline?
The planning and agenda's of those in power, how much in this post-postmodern world is actually chance. How much was planned and designed?
Strange that no one mentioned that dams are the true cause of coastal erosion in Portugal. Dams prevent the sediments eroded upstream to reach the beaches. With less sediments to replenish the beaches, they keep losing territory. Climate change, human settlements, and so on, they might have an impact, but not as important as dams (the same happens in other regions of the globe.
True but, on the other hand, many countries have the same problem and, no dams. Nothing can stop the rising of the ocean
Dutch Delta works, that is all I can think about - if there is one country that has historically been battling the sea in this case its the Netherlands, God created the earth, the Dutch created the Netherlands. Also we know the waters will rise, no if's and but's.
Even here in the Netherlands there is talk about evacuation and deals with countries like Austria to take in people of the Netherlands if worse case scenario happens. South Limburg where I live could become an island. We are the highest spot of the Netherlands.
And not much of the Netherlands would survive the extreme predicted levels of sea-rise.
There are multiple ideas floating around, protecting more than just the NL by damming off the North-sea & Black-sea in extend. Between UK & Norway, & UK & France; it would protect parts (some larger some smaller) of UK, Norway, Sweden, Finland, small part of Russia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Germany, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, and a small part of France. (There is also talk about a similar thing between UK & Ireland. Which could also make them united as one, pump out the excess water and you got land the Dutch way.
But this would have a price; turning the sea into a lake basically, what could be seen as an ecological disaster as well.
There probably is no win-win, and still people use fossil fuel planes because of tourism and economies, fossil fuel cars, polluting industries chemicals and plastics, mining we rape the earth and this is part of the outcome.
We are overpopulating, and just the fact that I am communicating with you via this medium and the technologies to make this possible - can we live without them? The device has plastic and minerals/metals needed, power & power plants, data centers, all this also produces heat.
We are heating up the world with our lives. Cities and metropolises and cosmopolises - they hold on to heat why they are warmer. Huddle together for heat, is a tactic to survive colds when with a group.
Also we keep forgetting that the Antarctic is a landmass maybe for the new Prozac nation? Living conditions would be less ideal there probably, but it would also have potentials. However certain humans have probably evolved better to be living there than others. People at the top of the North pole. Their seasons and conditions are not the same as at the equator.
Also with possible shifting poles, also when the ice is no longer pushing down on the Northern and Southern axis, who knows... many speculations, and parts overlooked. We don't really know, we can't really predict.
Look at freak weather events and our lack of predicting, working with these.
The working class still has to face the same daily routines to keep the economies turning.
Which brings us to automatizations, bots & AI - this class of people is for large parts expendable to those in power.
They are just a number - worker bee 17.245.890.333.
Look at the pandemic over the past years, who got richer, who didn't.
This trend is seen throughout human history. (the) Exploiters & (the) exploited. The rich and ruling (elites) & the working class and the poor.
And some people will do a lot for money / survival; why there are these businesses/corporations tied in. They offer money and let others do their dirty works.
How much will humans be part of the mass extinctions taking place at the moment on earth. Over fishing, bee extinctions, pollutions.
And they know because we already have bots to do that job if need bee. Look at the the things they made, why?
Georgia Guide Stones? The New - New World Order? Homo Deus? What is the Order in/of the World? How are Americans doing? They claim to be the global leader. And if not how are the Chinese doing, the average people of course? And if this is not the next power in line; how are the average Russians doing? Life expectancies?
All these aspects of humanity are tied in together - why has no one done anything / not much against climate change - how long was there the debate between denying and inactivity?
And who is suffering the most? The poor, those that did the least in causing this. That is human history 101.
We all pass away in the end (or no longer - but again this is not for the poor or working class; they can't afford this).
Legacies and family/generational wealth (power).
PS economically seen; the millionaires are the new "working-class" in our post-postmodern system with the world richest. the top has most of the money hoarded, the bottom has the crumbs that keep the illusion of economic circulation going. All this is popping, people have been waking up and presented the next/newest illusions ; meta & cryptocurrency. That is the reality, not for the poor and working class living their daily lives/struggles. But for the people that feel and think they are above that, superior to that. Nurture & cultures / societies.
Do these richest countries/empires have social structures?
Now still wonder why we have been failing?
Portugal also has an very interesting history, human history, cultural history. Why do so many people live at the Portuguese coast, and what about the lands more inward? People and living at coasts, because that is more easy. Or it used to be. Why so many poor there, who owns the lands inward?
Economies, exploitations, and slavery - Portugal or should we pin this on Spain?
I am a Dutchy - the Hollanders and Zealanders did the same? Why and how The Netherlands could exist, why I am not German, French or Spanish, or Roman if we take it back to the historical civilizations, and not the prehistoric - Doggerland, just to bring it all back to the start about damming off the North Sea. What is constant in this world?
Or cut our losses and run?
Going savage and wild?
Take what we need - like the rich have been doing in history? Just invade homes / lands of peoples?
Eat the rich? Take the ice-cream and cake?
Humanity could do so much better!
Also coastal land reclamation.
We need to ensure the coastal regions of Portugal gets completely wiped away, this includes all types of infrastructure and land.
@@dimitrygornomelikov3146 why you want to destroy everything?
Second comment and I’m
From Portugal, and I was aware of this problem , once again DW showing things that even the national media doesn’t show
Nao diga mentiras claramente nao ve tv Portuguesa .
National media doesn't show? Shows and a lot.
it shows, but it doesn't shows often enough in my opinion, sometimes national media remmembers that erosion exists in some areas, but doesn't show the complete picture, scenarios and what we really should do, its more constructive documentarys and news reports that we need to make people more aware and make them want politicians to fight more.
As a Galician, I feel for my southern neighbours. Força!
obrigado mano mas infelizmente os problemas não ficam por aqui eventualmente chegará ai também se é que já não chegou.
Harsh reality...it make me sad to watch this video. I feel for these people, and for humanity. We are truly caught in a catch 22 reality.
How do we ride this wave?
The rising of the ocean knows no country. Galiza é o proximo
Thank you for the sympathy, but unless you live in the interior I don't see how the situation in Galicia is better than in Portugal.
@@MariaDiazskn Where I live, the coastline is rockier and higher. Less prone to erosion... Not saying it's not a problem but it's not as bad as down there...
in portugal it's like we all know, it's in our subconscious, everyone already had casual talkings on how the beach was bigger when we were young...i mean in costa da caparica, right across lisbon it's a huge problem, so it's not like all governments were unaware...i guess we just simply already accepted that will happen. i really hope something is done.
People need to take action instead of complaining
Everyone will move to Coimbra
@@0dyss3us51 people complain very softly about it. and you see local city halls putting sand before summer in some places (like in costa da caparica). but it's a bit like when you seen someone growing during your whole life, you dont notice they're growing cause you're there the whole time. for most people in portugal i would say that's exactly it.
If y’all tear down the houses you will have beach.
The beach is moving inland.
Same situation in Florida USA.
Every time it rains in Miami it floods with Sea water. The Government has spent millions and millions on pumps.
It’s ridiculous!!!
As I can see y'all have plans for governments, I am very much interested in hearing them.
Great documentary. My only request as someone in Jamaica, and never been to Portugal - a map of the country showing each town you interviewed at before the start of each interviewed.
It's up north. The country is basicly a rectangle.
@@puraLusa Oh, I had the impression it was three different downs, up and down the country.
@@JonesJr876 You are right, they interviewed people from coastal towns in the north, south and west coast of Portugal.
@@JonesJr876 two names they went were apúlia and furadouro, two beaches on the north.
Good point
I live in Nazaré, and on this famous beach, the phenomenon of erosion is not happening, on the contrary, the beach's sand has increased.
Biggest wave in the world! Nazare looks like an amazing place
lol you guys are taking all the sand, eh
I'm 32 years old and I'm from a small town near Furadouro. When I was a teenager the sea front shown on minute 22 used to have beach; and all of that disappeared in less than 15 years. Used to be my favorite place in that beach because it was protected from the wind and the waves were attenuated massively (because there are more rocks into the ocean, we call them paredão).
In this last 15 years things have changed massively:
One of my favorite restaurants for fresh fish (called Maganinho) started to be flooded during winter.
Common for the main avenida to be flooded.
Most of the beach front was lost.
Government had to create more and more paredões (plural of paradão). Used to be paradão into the sea but now even parallel to the cost (Paradão Sul).
Etc
Furadouro used to be so lively during summer...
Also Torreira, São Jacinto and also a part of Furadouro has see on one side and river on the other. So the people are a bit stuck between bodies of water.
I'm sorry for your losses of your paradise. You are not alone, and we all contributed.
the 80's & 90's and the rise of the trend of: Global warming aka Climate change. What did we do?
More planes, cars, and pollutions happened since then onward - to feed the beast; Economy.
Tourism & Portugal - you need it. And now the paradise has been lost - story of our lives.
Exploitations of humanity from nature and all living things.
Beautiful country!👍🌸
I'm Portuguese. When the video started and you showed houses falling from the cliff because of erosion, you forgot to mention, THEY WERE BUILT ILLEGALLY!!! That's why they are falling, they not supposed to be there. And the fishing situation was created by the European Union and their stupid rules!!!!
People build in beautiful vallies and are shocked when it floods.
They knew from the start it was a flood plane. 🙄
@@ianbardon8581 hard to grow crops out of rock and sand buddy. you want to eat, right? floodplains have very fertile soil..
@@0xsergy yes they do, but don't think it yours for ever and build a house, foolish don't you think buddy.
@@ianbardon8581 not a house but a farm for sure.
@@0xsergy farm the land ok , live elsewhere, a little foresight needed.
Superb documentary 🧤💕
Thank you for educating us 👋🐡🐠🥀
same thing was happening in Australia while I was there all throughout 2020.
basically lost an entire beach within months
Sky News spend every night claiming that climate change is a lie, fostered by the ‘mad’ left. I don’t know who is pushing this idea, but they are not helping. Murdoch has agreed that climate change is a fact but his not-news outlets say differently. They need to hear from every person who knows and can show what’s happening here in Australia.
Which beach was that?
Unfortunately, people on the coastline are affected all over the world and not only in Europe.
They should bring their fight at the planetary level where they can get more support from other nations caught in the same situation. This is a global problem; no government can fix it.
Too late to avert catastrophes. Prepare to adapt to a hothouse Earth.
The coast of England also has quite a bit of coastal erosion. I've got a map of England from the 1930's showing how much land England has lost to the sea. It is quite a bit.
That's funny because maps from before 1930 don't show any difference.
Well, that one does. And, maybe it's also indicating a time beforehand.
@@GoodVideos4 can you send a link to the map?
@@Communism.is.a.cancer No, not everything is on the internet.
It was also from a 'World of Wonder' Encyclopedia, of 1936.
And no, liberalism is not always 'syphilis of the brain'.
Excellent documentary. There's no doubt that the sea is rising and we will all face this problem in a near future, but it leaves out two important details:
One, the fact that the coastal erosion in the northern part of the coutry (mostly in the Viana/Esposende areas) were exponentially increased by the construction of pontoons in the 80s and 90s without any concern or insight on its consequences. The tides come mostly from the northwest diagonally and as soon as a pontoon is built, theres a swirl efect on the south area of the pontoon that digs into the cost. There is an excellent example on the Praia da Amorosa, Praia do Castelo and Foz do Neiva of this effect, due to the fact that Viana build the first pontoons and Esposende didn't.
Second, and while there is a lot of concern from the authorities on the demolitons of the restaurants in Apulia and in other areas, at the same time and just a few quilometers away, some VIPs are still alowed to build brand new houses on top of the dunes and some even closer to the sea - in the same municipality.
But overall an excellent documentary and it does shine a light on a very important issue.
Thank you for that.
Very important details that would never make it to the political headlines because it doesn't help the left and green extremists in their cause to control the people.
Thank you for adding this information .... also a question could be did they forget to include, or where they not allowed to include?
Money, money, money.... greed and corruption are human conditions, the lack of care for the poor are human conditions. Human history shows this over and over.
Look up the charts, sea levels haven't changed for 60 years, you take all this crap in like a toilet...do some research. How do you think continental drift works you nitwit, its nature.
Happens on the east coast of England. Various things tried and in the end, nature wins.
The Netherlands is proof that that statement is false, we have been holding back the sea succesfully for many many decades.
My grandmother had a caravan @ Hornsea
I'm guessing 15 metres has been took in 20 years that I know of
You can see the lookouts on the beach from WW2
That was once in land
Thanks DW for such great report.
Sea levels have been rising since the last ice age, over 12.000 years ago. Destroying dunes, building towns right on the water's edge, mass tourism with hotels and appartments all on the coast. It is a time bomb and a totally predictable one at that.
One thing to remember is that the country is also gaining land, so this is partly natural. The city of Obidos was a costal city 400 years ago, now it sits 10 kilometres from the ocean. Many other cities and towns also used to be closer to the water and are now landlocked.
When my parents were younger there was a city that would be surrounded by water when the tide moved in, now the ocean never moves in that far.
True. Same with Figueira da Foz. Praia da Claridade feels like the Sahara desert. Abraço
Im from Faro, and when I was a kid, the beach was huge, now sometimes is just a mere 50 meters of sand.
I was in Ericeira and it was crazy to see the force of the ocean there. Absolutely monumental
Nature changes all the time, nothing stays the same or we would be still in the ice age, make the best of it if you can make a living from nature.
@@ianbardon8581 wise words.
Indeed, this is happening all over the world. I lived most of my life in California, and now I live in Portugal. We had the same problem in California of beach, erosion, winter storms, and floods, and houses falling off of cliffs and bluffs that overlook the ocean. Some communities tried to put up big walls to protect their million dollar homes which just caused more erosion. These wealthy people expect the government to save their properties and it’s just not possible and nor should they expect it. They took the risk when they built or bought their house where they did. It’s always amazed me after terrible fires or beach storms that people would go back and build at the same locations where their home was destroyed. What are they thinking? These are not places for people to build residences. The natural forces and the risks are just too high no matter what kind of view you have. And everybody should live on higher ground. Nobody should live at the beach, unless it is elevated to some degree above the ocean. Tsunamis can come, and your house will be taken with it. Like in England, many small communities in California have also had to come to terms with the fact that there is no saving their homes, and people need to plan to relocate.
Well said, it's not rocket science that over a given period it's likely that any coastal area is going to be affected by erosion. There are no doubt hundreds if not thousands of examples of unusually big storms coinciding with Spring tides that shift unfathomable quantities of sand over a period of a few weeks. There's an example in Cornwall in the UK where in the 1700's a deep water port was filled with sand from the cove around the corner. The Cove had been a sandy beach and was left rocky bereft of sand and the deep water port was rocky and sand free was turned into a sandy beach in a matter of a week. If you're going to build on a beach, you have to consider it as a potentially short term prospect and agree to clean up the mess when your house tips into the ocean!
Thank you for the documentary! Kind of sad and disturbing how much we've affected the ocean.
We didn't.
DW have an excellent team with a keen eye on otherwise almost ignored problem....
Is not real.
i mean isn't that what the oceans have been doing for millions of years or have we just discovered coastal erosion was a thing?
its has accelerated because of climate chnage that nature itself can't keep up
It’s the speed at which it’s happening. A little research would do you a lot of good
During my 59 years of life in Portugal I have NOT seen the sand or the coast recede permanently, in any part of the coast, except where stone piers were installed. These piers stop the sand from circulating freely along the coast depleting the space between the piers of sand. If humans stop interfering with the coast, the sand will come and go as it has always been. I have seen the sand disappear up to 4 meters below the normal level, only to come back after the next storm.
Opportune content as always DW!
Does not take a genius to figure out building your home right next to the ocean might not be a good idea. My pop always told me to build at least 75 feet above sea level and anything you build below that, expect it to have some kind of water related issue down the line. His advice has never failed me.
Most of the erosion is caused by greed and corruption wich allows the construction on dunes and sand dragging on tiver mouths like Tagus rivermouth where the natural movement of the sand was stopped by the dragging to allow Cruise ships and other to travel freely trough the canal. Nature is doing is natural job to remove the sand from the beach and sending it back to the rivermouth. Almada municipality has spent hundreds of euros to Pump sand every 2 years and Will continue to do so with tax pay money and the problem continues. So this is not just a nature issue altough it helps the sea rise due to climate change and all that but on Portugal some people are responsible for this matter and they know it but probably someone big is the owner of the sand pump company and is profiting from this natural disaster.
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More money, short term fix, it won't stop.
sand will only flow down. if they remove sand at the bottom... it will fall in from the sides.
The problem is not with the tides it is with the ENERGY IN THE WAVES. If a reef of seaweed was artificially planted offshore then it would remove some of the energy in the waves, which would reduce winter flooding and also aid fishing. Hard, non-yielding structures will not stand up to the power of the waves and rising sea levels. It should also be possible to remove some wave energy with electricity-producing ducks. If all aspects of this scheme were added it would show cost effectiveness, however without re-freezing the polar ice caps, sea-level rise will continue.
The best solution so far. But pollution is killing seaweed
Golden rule is never fight the nature try to find a way to live in harmony with it!
It’s a battle you can’t win
I grew up on the Portuguese coastline. I thought the issue was always building too close to the sea 🤔 and also building too many peers and walls that block sand movements. We really need to get rid of the walls I think.
Indeed
People are the case of their own destruction.
The wall should prevent erosion of land that is behind the wall but makes the erosion of sand infront of the walls faster. But if you take away the walls the choice is to move the houses further inlands because the land will be washed away by the sea. With no walls the beach will move further inland. That is what I think. Piers prevent currents that transport sand sideways, so some beaches will gain of the piers and some will lose incomming sand.
From Portugal to the World.....I confirm the restaurant Cabana (at Apulia) is a TOP Restaurant!!!! The only situation that is very difficult to get a table because there are always a lot of people waiting!!! Abraços
20 years ago my favorite beach in portugal was easily double the size that today... each year you can see how much desapears its so sad
We cannot fight sea. That is why human learned to ride with it.
The Dutch disagree haha
@@motttta the dutch sea is 95m deep, mean depth. the atlantic is 4kms deep, mean depth. Probably won't be as easy if you gotta fill in 4kms of missing land...
Excelente documentário, parabéns à DW! Sou de Ovar e é com muita tristeza que vejo a nossa costa a desaparecer!
what a treasure of a human being! so special to see and insightful.
Que Nossa Senhora de Fátima proteja Portugal !
May Our Lady of Fatima protect Portugal !
I would consult the Dutch- they’ve been successfully fighting back the sea for centuries.
Don't compare the shallow north sea with the strength and depth of the Atlantic Ocean. Very different Coastlines.
comparing the North Sea with the North Atlantic is like comparing a bathtub with an olympic pool
They fight the sea with huge concrete. dams and dikes.
They are under sea level, its totally different from Portugal. We have 900 kms off coastline, mainly beaches. The dutch they have a tiny coastline, without beaches.
The ducht experience, Has nothing to do with the Portuguese reality.
@@jpmtlhead39 Still... knowledge sharing is never a waste of time. They may have some info to be adapted for your unique problems.
@@braveconcepts if it was the case, Portugal already had seek some kind of "help" from the dutch.
But like i said, its a completly different situation.
Is it me or is it not what we learned in high school geography?, If you build walls in our by the sea, it blocks the movement of sand which causes the replenishment of beaches to be blocked. The more man meddles with nature, the more our environment is disrupted. We need to remove walls and barriers from the sea and in time it will restore itself.
Of all the species Mother Earth could continue to thrive without,
it would be the one that rapes, pillages and exploits her resources more than any another ......humans, the never ending virus.....
I do believe this is 1 fight, we as a humane race severely underestimate and can never win.. There is no human intervention for what the ocean & mother nature has in store for the future...
Not just the sea on the coastal areas, even Tagus River that comes from Spain towards Lisbon to the ocean, is eating away some zones of land, and in some places, it has almost no freshwater, so the salt water is taking over and coming from the Ocean taking over places that are beautiful in the zone of "Ribatejo", it is Brackish water that destroys plantations, fish and many more.
Same happening in the UK on the East coast. Storms are far more frequent and intense.
Another European country has had this same problem and has been successful. I think Portugal can definitely learn from The Netherlands
Lol, people here argue they dont want any proposed solution to turn the country into a place like the Netherlands, which is an environmental disaster
Maybe. But the North Sea is very shallow, the Atlantic is not.
I think it is not quite that easy. Not all coasts and seas are built the same. This is a bit of a different kind of beast. It is a coast that at many places rises quite apruptly from the ocean floor where it meets the Atlantic Ocean as the edge of the continent. In comparison both Israel and the Netherlands are not quite as exposed that might make it difficult for Portugal to have the same success in rebuilding their coastline, unfortunately.
Go check the sea in Portugal. You Will then understand why its so different. We are IN the atlantic ocean.
Not the same as Holland, in fact completely different coast, seas, sea bottoms, an totally different problem!The issue here in Portugal its not draining n control the water invading a country largely below sea level (which is basically what the Dutch do very well… when the ocean doesn’t take it all as it happens from time to time). In fact our problem its coastal erosion. Same problem of 70% of the coastal regions around the planet, according many scientists caused by the rise of the oceans level. Basically the same “fight” of all coastal countries of the world… Amplified and more serious when it hits populated areas. Which is the case of Portugal where 3/4 of the population lives by the sea. Simple as that!
In general, this has very little to do with climate change and far more to do with trying to fight the natural processes that occur in the coastal zone all over the planet. The shoreline moves with the tides, waves, swells, seasons and over the course of time, building up in places, and eroding in others. Obviously, in retrospect, nothing should be built on top of sand dunes or sandstone bluffs, they are inherently unstable and shift over the course of time. But we can't change the past, so sometimes creative solutions such as building an offshore reef could be warranted to save what has developed along a particular section of the shore over time.
Well said, mankind thinks he can change everything.
Nature is the boss.
The more we do the worse things will be, adapt to the change.
If the sea rises because climate change the process you described will go much faster. And the most of the beaches will move inlands.
Thank you for sharing.
Look back before the ice age. The sea covered a lot more earth. Now since the ice age ended 15,000 years ago,the earth is slowly getting back to pre ice age.
strange that the island of Aruba which is really small ( i have visited twice since 2003) isn't loosing any beaches at all but other places are? if the sea level is rising is it rising all at once or just some places like a sea saw?
Maybe stop building so close to the ocean? particularly residential and commercial buildings.
You know uts nice to have a view of the ocean but not so nice to have the ocean in your living room.
Is Spain & France using the same measures to deal with the problem ? What about filling used tires with a concrete and chained together in some form ?
There are also parts in Portugal where the reverse is happening, the beaches are expanding, go figure.
yeah buddy, this is fake news, make america great again
In South Africa we have had the same problem in the Cape. The problem has been solved or at the very least greatly diminished by something we call "dolosse" or tetrapods. These are concrete structures that are put down where the water breaks and prevents the land from washing away.
I think they know very well about them, but it's hard to tell if they want to use them on the whole coast.
That last fisherman with the idea for his project is absolutely correct!! We know that they are a South African invention/design born of necessity and that they have worked well for decades now. They are inexpensive to make and simple to drop on site. They are also very easy to copy!
Fix one thing and you make another problem.
20 years ago the whole beach dropped 4 meters at Salt Rock Ballito , one nature may bring it back.
We are not in control and never will be.
How much are Plate Tectonics playing in Receding and Shifting Shorelines? If Anything is Appreciable?
It's interesting to see adults discussing ways to stop the erosion. Any child who has built a sandcastle on the beach knows it's impossible. So sad.
I'll remind you that the Netherlands has been holding back the ocean with great success for many decades now, even raising entire provinces from the seabed, but you can not do it by shoveling some sand onto a beach, it requires many billions of dollars of investment into professional hydraulic engineering projects, as well as the creation of forts, PROPER dykes, sluices, pumping stations, you name it.
@@imjusthappytobedepressed1123 Yes, the Netherlands is an example the rest of the world should look to for ideas about the correct approach to the problem.
Replacing the sand can't possibly overcome actually rising sea level.
sea levels, dams blocking sediment from reaching shores, etc.
How much has the sea risen?
04:00 look at all those little baby fish and net hole size! No wonder the seas are losing their fish stock.
Those "little baby fish" are sardines, pmsl. They are a good size for eating.
This must also be happening at many other places around the world that we don't know about, or know little about.
Mother nature just doing what it does
DW Doc? Let's go
They have created their doom, constructing on the dunes e impeding the sand from the inland to replenish the shore. Nature always wins.
Yes!. They have created their own doom by existing on an earth that USA and China are polluting up with Carbon causing sea levels to rise... wait a second.
They are the victims. Look to the countries with the greatest GDPs and Carbon emissions if you wish to point fingers. Portugal is doing what they can to keep citizens happy. They can't fix Americans destroying the world.
@@0xsergy It's not the sea level raising that causes the erosion, it's the sand not being naturely repositioned in those points. Dunes invasion, dams on the rivers, dragging of estuaries, pontoons along the shores to "protect the beaches". These are old problems, long time ago detected but nobody has done anything. And believe me, the Portuguese governments don't give a shit about citizens happiness.
I have an idea, can tesla valves be installed along the coast? Think a continious off coast stone wall like structure. It should has openings, perhaps half of the wall should be opening. And those openings should be prepared like tesla valves. That structure could be designed as an oyster reef. It could be a home for many rock and sand creatures and icrease fish population. And most importantly it could decrease the power of storm waves. And when high tide or wind currents came carrying sediment, could enter easily, but ebb current can't leave that easy. The slowed back current can enable the sediment carried to settle, and that can build the coast perhaps. However I can't simulate it and not an expert at coastal engineering
What a catastrophic eruption of se it's tarebile nice report ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Same thin hapens in Albania coast. The sea is going more than 50 metres inside coast.
Thwaites glacier is going to be the next gear up in sea level rise , great to see a bit of the world greater to have some context on were the extra water and how much is comeing soon
What I understood from this documentary. Stages of grief.
Apart from fire, water is the most destructive natural force on earth. I wish them the best of luck in their fight againt mother nature.
After replenishing the sand on a target size and area, you could build a natural defense on some part of the beach. If a mangrove would survive, it will help to hold the sand intact.... and when it grows and vast, it can also block waves..
Seems to be a bit overdramatised. I've always lived on the coast and yes, I see the beaches reducing their size and the sea coming to the streets in case of big storms, but the same happens everywhere. If you go to these places you'll see people buying apartments and houses as close to the front as can be at absurd prices. So, I don't see anybody worrying.
Auntie maria. it doesn't hit home yet that is why you are unconcerned. but you can see locals losing their minds here while you are being served with o Telenovas to distract you from it all.
DW over does over do things.
great video ! new sub !
I love the sea but I wouldn’t dare live close to the sea. That’s the consequences of building houses near the sea. What do they expect ?! You can’t control the sea unfortunately
😔🇵🇹🇬🇧😘
I love the sea, I swim & kite surf but live 10k inland, best of both worlds. 😆
O que passa em Opulia ( o como se chame) o sr. Vestido de vermelho tem razão com o seu projecto.
Isto se chama rompe ondas ( braking waves ) sim é efectivo mas tem que ter varios , Com um não é suficiente.
Ao ser océano Atlántico devem edificar cada um com uma distancia de 50m. Como mínimo entre eles y
Contando desde a Praia devem de ter uma distancia de 60m de largo ou máis mar adentro.
( Antes se debe de fazer um estudo y ver o ponto máis forte donde rompe as ondas, para ser máis exacto.)
As ondas rompem dentro do mar y quando chegam a areia Já vêm máis tranquilas.
É bom para os pescadores que saêm y chegam sem dificuldades, é bom para os banhistas que não há tanto perigo, é bom para as dunas que se mantêm por máis tempo.
Mas há que ter presente a observação e o mantenimiento do projecto.
Nos temporais em inverno podem ficar danificados.
Deveriam de ser construidos com muitas rocas de grande tamanho fazendo um paredão mínimo de uns 8 metros de largura 60m de comprimento e 2 m de alto y hormigão não poroso por encima deixando esa parte lisa para se poder caminhar desde a Praia até ao final.
As rocas ficam unidas entre elas e máis difícil que a oleagem as mova.
Esas zonas podem ser usadas nos períodos de oleaje baixa como plataformas para os aficionados á pesca com anzol.
Ou outras actividades como a recolha de mexilhoês , lapas , etc que com o tempo procuram as rocas como base de apoio.
Uma sugestão;
Ao fazer o paredão, ( rompe olas )
A superficie plana que seja máis baixa
Do que as rocas a sua volta.
Dará a ideia de um barco .
Se alguém é surpreendido por alguna onda não caerá ao mar ficará dentro da zona protegido pelas rocas e terá oportunidad e tempo de pôr-se salvo.
I was expecting an analysis of the causes of this problem.
The same thing is happening in puerto corinto Nicaragua, the sea has won meters eatteng the beach and the authorities just put a lot of stones and now we don't have beaches
Strange!! I have used the beaches where I lived for close on eighty years and nothing has changed at all 🤔
Which beaches are you refering?
If you talk about Portugal some places do have a problem due to illegal construction in dunes. Usually people with money and connected to the local governments. Some places in the South , region of Faro decided to put a stop to these constructions which was a bold move due to conflicts with the population. But in the long term that is the best option because the dunes need the space to move .
The people that were building on the beaches were not rich... They were mostly fishermen.. now... The fishermen sold then to rich people for profit, yes
ask the Dutch Netherlands they know how to deal with it
different seas completely
Sea Level Rise is already here, not in 2050 or 2100
Mother nature is the boss
Move the road and the buildings
Plant some trees in the surrounding areas
Omg reclaim the beach
A beautiful private public beach
What do you want? Old buildings and a misplaced road
Or paradise?
Wonderful 👌 making
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this good documentary! Portugal's worst problem will indeed be the rising sea levels, wich rises the intensity of coastal erosion! Not droughts, not floods, but the receding coastline will be the most expensive and disruptive effect of global warming here! As a weather and climate change channel created recently, we monitor periodically places like Costa de Caparica, who also has a big problem with erosion, and suffered a lot in the past decade! More places will be monitored monthly in the future.
However, it's not only rising sea levels due to climate change who causes the extreme erosion! Dams prevent the arrival of sediments who otherwise would get to the beaches and would delay the effects of erosion, we obviously will not demolish the dams. Artificial beach nourishment delayed also erosion in Costa de Caparica, and it's a good measure, however it's not long term, or even medium term, and without other measures, would not protect our most damaged places from 10/20 years from now. We need more! Replacement of entire villages and cities in our coast it's almost impossible and only should be done in the most extreme and dangerous cases, but we can defend them better, we should fight more, there must be political will to spend more money in it, and really protect our coasts, people, their houses, and our patrimony, if we don't start doing better now, we will lose! That is one of the reasons we exist, there is still a lot of people who doesn't care about this or deny it, we want to show them that this is SERIOUS, and help create awareness, to make politicians even more willingly to act with REAL and complete plans to the medium and if possibily long term, we really hope Portugal do more about this.
If the sea level is rising so quickly how come Bill Gaates just bought a 34 million dollar seafront home in San Diego?
Greay video
The guy at the end, hope the region tries is idea to save the community before it's too late 🥺
Nature will always win.
The beach will be always be here only your houses will gone.
Look at how many baby fish were in that catch🥺😳…humans are the worse predator on this beautiful planet
Those are sardines. Fully grown.
@@mattmccallum2007 yes, on the white basket at the restaurant. But please look at the fish net when its pushed from the sea to land
Im portuguese, from one of those regions being afected by the sea levels. My conclusion is that is pointless employing more funds to solve this problem. This is the nature calling. The country has to adapt and forget about how it was. Same for other countries with same problems. Said but thats life. There is nothing that we can do against it.
If they truely want to solve this problem they need to accept help from the dutch, we have been holding back the sea succesfully for a long time, as well as raising entire new provinces from the seabed, we have the technology and skill required to defend any country from the rising sea levels, if they are willing to pay for our work of course.
Dude, this is not the shallow north sea. This is the atlantic. 500 meters off the coast the dept is 2km...
@@bolsa3136 That doesn't matter, it's not a case of copying what we did in the Netherlands, but rather taking that technology and adapting it to portugal's terrain.
@@imjusthappytobedepressed1123 Does not work... Completely different sea basin morphologies.. I live in the Netherlands.
@@tubarao1143 There are dozens of ways of getting around that, modern hydraulic engineering is far more advanced than it was when the largest of our coastline defenses such as the Afsluitdijk were created, besides, when dealing with nature you have to think out of the box.
@@imjusthappytobedepressed1123 The mean depth of the north sea is 95m. The mean depth of the Atlantic Ocean is 4000m. It's not easy to fill in 4 kms of missing land... unless you're an anime protagonist. ;)
As a portuguese our coastal towns will sink if we don’t build a wall the North of Portugal and Castelo Branco has Mountains. I’m from Tavira which is coastal but has some hills up to 300M so if things get bad we will have to keep moving up in the night the river gilao is Up to this bridge that extends to probably about 20M high I see it through the soil. Although it was exposed for 1000 years we never received flooding but during the winter I see tonnes of water flooding our streets. Hope to wish for the best for Portugal and coastal areas
We have an old saying " Portugal é Lisboa ,o resto é paisagem" Portugal is Lisbon ( the capital ) , the rest is landscape.....🙂
It's possible to stop the erosion off the ocean , but they nee to installing rock barriers at an opportune angle nearly paralle from coastline and not 90 dr from costline. Reference can be seen in Italy in the city of Pescara in Abruzzo, where 40 year ago the sea was spraying water on the road , now after the installation of rocks barriers, there is more than 150 of send. Pescara it's just 1.5 m above the sea level ! What i see it's just a result of incompetence and neglec so sead to see !
This is a good example of why we are screwed! How much diesel is burnt to keep a pretty beach? If your property is under threat from the ocean... come to terms with it, preferably quickly!
I'm always optimistic about this kind of issues. Don't panic because of the sea or because of the climate change, BUT just move a bit deeper into the mainland. It's not difficult to change your life this way. I know it, cause I'm from an international family and I grew up in different countries. Adaptation is always better than panic and conservatism
Optimistic? 1. You try moving to another location and sustaining your livelihood. How are you going to pay for the new house? Who's going to compensate your old house? What if you need to get a new job? 2. This isn't just about Portugal. It's happening worldwide, and guess what, it will happen where you live. "Not difficult to change your life"??
We seem to know too little about protecting coastal areas. Wouldn't dune planting be significant, in spite of inevitable sea level rise? And wouldn't curved jetties (instead of perpendicular ones) deflect the power of waves by dispersing their strength? What about creating stable land: permaculture techniques build rich soil quickly and very, very cheaply. Resettle on higher ground.
That mere men think they can stop the sea is LOCO. Mother Nature always wins 😉
Its unbelievable that everyone is complaining about the coastal erosion but keep on missing the cause. The Portuguese government has been telling ppl not to build housing near the coastline and are prohibited in most cases.
It is one of those issues you need to think about carefully whenever building your house so close to the sea, one day the sea is going to take back what's once belong to it 👨🏼🌾👩🏼🌾.
Wieder klasse Grüße aus Berlin es grüßt der Berliner
God bless them n lord pave the way for a better future.
strange no one talked about sand stealing for island building like the World and Palm in United Arab Emirates. if you take from the bottom of the ocean It will eventually fill back in from the beaches
You can’t stop Mother Nature
Que Tal importar areia do Saara , pode providenciar muitos com trabalho .......