So good job you done !😊 i have a 1999 800 fi to ,an aniversire model ! Its so nice bike to drive ! And that gear driven cams, one of the best engine ever buildt . V4 power !😊😊😊
I had a 2000 and it didn't have the hiss system. it was a US market bike. I loved it. Now I have a 1991 vfr750. I love seeing these bikes be brought back to life instead of trashed. I'm so happy right now 😁.
Hats off to your determination and patience. I couldn’t do it. When you factor in your time , it’s gotta be a labor of love because you would never make a profit on it
Thank you John? Yes I worked hard at it. To make a business of it? No. Just the idea that one day I would hear that engine run and then make it look better then what it’s market value claims is all I need. Restoring bikes for a living would be a fool’s errand. Carbon bikes yes! Thanks for chiming in
Exactly Dave but I’m discovering that as long as you can recognise what is computer related and what isn’t then we can progress and actually enjoy the innovation. What a machine!
I have a 2001 VFR 800. One day bike ran fine the next day it didnt start. The transponder in the bike ignition key gave me the exact symptom as in your video the green light and the Fi light stayed lit. Checked through everything electrical, worked fine with the spare key. Maybe both keys went down on your bike. The RFID chip . I had a van that did the same thing too. Thanks for an amazing Video.
Thanks for chipping in. If you continue through the videos you’ll see what was one of the main causes. Broken ignition wire and a faulty ecm. It’s was a tough project…
A tip for messing with Hondas with H.I.S.S without the right key. It wont let the fuel pump ground without the right key. What we did on a 929 was snip the ground wire before the ECU and connect it to ground. When we turn the key on now the pump always run but that is not really a problem if you can get the bike for cheap.
I bought a 2001 vfr about 4 years ago only 15,000 0n it. so glad its great shape as I do my own maintenance, but not much experience with electrical. things that made a big difference, straight bars AMB from Germany , Givi windscreen. went up 2 on rear sprocket really made her come alive. Yoshimura exhaust. now 45,000 runs fine. can cruise all day at high speeds.
Yeah my 5th generation Honda VFR800fi is on a 2001 reg plate with hiss ignition and hecs3 cats in exhaust collector box however it's in conifer green so a 2000 model. There great bikes once patient enough to get on with the weight. The pair valve system is to be blanked off with the 2 plate kit and the standard end can strangles the hidden power IMO. Nice to see you fit a digital gear indicator if possible to this 5th generation please. Also I love my fork brace with fork gaurds. Great stuff good luck.
Thank you Rob, interesting and detailed videos. Have owned my 2000 FiY for 20 years and found your work inspirational if a little daunting as I only have a garage, basic tool kit, an Abba stand and no formal training in motorcycle maintenance. My VFR has completed 27,500 miles and has been very reliable except for regulator/rectifier failure at 22,000 miles and cooling system thermostat replacement at 23,000 miles. At the end of last summer, I experienced my first issues with a cracked central lower cowl fairing. On removal, I found that at some point one of my Honda maintenance men had swapped my good cowl with a tape repaired item. The poor repair eventually led to more cracks, including a lug crack on the side fairing. Your demonstration of plastic welding will be very useful to many of us.
That’s appalling behaviour by the garage! Hopefully you can resolve the cracks well enough. Just don’t overheat the plastic as I’ve shown and you’ll be fine.
Hey good morning form Norway. Nice videos I like them a lot. Have a 1998 Honda VFR 800 FI myself. Have had it since 2000, plans to change the plastic during the winter.
currently going through Fi light problems again as mine starts off, then when I go to ride it the light comes on and stays on. Glad you fixed yours, hopefully I can use some of the information here to fix mine. 👍
I've got a 98 which I've hardly ridden and taking out of mothballs this year and I can't tell you how made up I am that you're doing this project. I also restore bikes. I've gotta congratulate you mate on the quality of your output there's no doubt your channel will take off. Asking for a friend, lol, fit a gear change indicator, not heard of a convincing solution and I'd totally love one there's so much torque driving round town you could be in anything from 2nd to 6th!
Well done, you got there. I am enjoying your channel. Just a thought, could the defective regulator rectifier have caused voltage/power surges that damaged the ecu?
You have the patience of a saint. There comes a point where you have to think is this worth it, the time more than anything? Time spent on trying to sort this problem, you could instead be doing other more productive things, other projects. I am thinking although the VFR is a nice bike when working properly, the engine management system on it is pretty rudimentary. It was of a time when the technology wasn't well developed and frankly was pretty primitive. It's not a system that you can connect via an OBD2 cable to a plug in code reader or to laptop and then read the error codes and find exactly what the problem is with the bike. This is the frustrating thing. Engine diagnostic systems have moved on massively since the time this gen VFR was built and even then Honda was never a head of the curve. Well done for getting it sorted. I would have soon given up.
Thanks for chipping in Alex! I’m still not sure why I added this (and now a 2nd one) the the list of projects..I guess after the Royal Enfield and the Norton I wanted to try a Japanese bike, not so much as a full restoration but as a riding bike. I actually bought another in frustration, then managed to sort the 1st one out so I have 2 which could help pay for 1 etc. After my experience on the old bikes this VFR is anything but basic! It is a fantastic machine, visceral unlike the new stuff my friends ride today. I’m very glad I’ve done something impulsive!
@@MyRestoration1 I have a mint low mileage 6k mile 1998 bike which I am dreading when something will go wrong on it which it will inevitably do. It's running a bit rough at the moment especially at low revs up to around 3 - 3.5k revs very choppy on and off the throttle so thinking is it electrics, ignition or fuel related? I hadn't considered injectors fouling up as it doesn't get used much to my shame. I have other bikes which I invariably jump on first, but the VFR is still a very nice bike when it's working properly. The sound track is pretty special. Many thanks.
@@alexmorgan3435 you’ll see in my next video that the idle is a bit rough on the 2nd vfr800fi. I pulled the throttle body off. It’s amazing it ran at all. The injectors are very dirty. It’s probably a possibility.
@@MyRestoration1 It might well be the case, or a whole host of other things ......... I don't have the experience, knowledge, skill or patience that you have with bikes, although I am not totally mechanically unaware. Can easily do basic servicing and I do, have rebuilt car engines in the past, but nothing to the same extent with bikes. Just general servicing so far, fitting accessories. The thought of fault finding on a VFR seems like looking for a pin in a haystack which doesn't fill me with joy. I shall have to take a look at it soon as I would like to ride it this summer and last year it had got quite annoying the lumpy throttle and tick over. I shall just have to get my hands dirty. At least my bike is still pretty clean like it just came out of the showroom so shouldn't be too hard to work on ie hopefully nothing corroded or seized. Many thanks for the suggestion. ATB.
The second VFR you bought is actually a 98 or 99 type RC46A, not a 2000 (witch is the same that 2001). It is not fitted with HISS key, has the soft rubber tubes at the base of the mirors and hasn't the catalysator into its egshaust yet. It has a false choke lever that is in fact made to raise rpm at start when the engine is cold. The injection plays the role of automatic choke anyway. But it's not a manual choke.
Thanks for chiming in 👍 when I bought it I thought the same as you, however this is not so! Hiss was fitted on regional bikes. Not all 2001 had hiss such as Australia etc, can’t remember which countries exactly. You are right about the choke. As injectors do not have such a device anyway. The cat conversion was later 2001 ‘interim’ model before VTEC. Also the exhaust headers were make smaller on the 2001 to heat the cat converter quicker but loosing about 3-5 hp as a result. Trust me this 2nd VFR800FI is a 2000 model with manual choke and large headers. I was also surprised but I have researched this at the time thinking someone had messed with it but it is completely stock. There you go 👍
@@MyRestoration1 Indeed, that's a very special case. Anyway, the latest V4 fitted with gears is one of the best bike ever made by Honda, and its an excellent choice that you've made. Drive safe !
The cold start lever can be retrofitted, my 2000 was showing with high idle issues and spark plug fouling. I retrofitted the cold start from the earlier bike balanced the starter valves etc and the bike ran a lot better. However the temperature would not get above 65° in normal riding unless sat in traffic resulting in high fuel consumption. I replaced the thermostat and now the bike runs at a consistent 75° whilst riding with normal fuel economy. The sticking thermostat may have been part of the reason for the high idle issues in the first place.
Great videos. As a VFR owner I never knew about the relationship between the ecm and key. Looking for a decent motorcycle hydraulic table similar to yours. Any recommendations?
Just fyi- I have a 2000 model which is the same as the one you just bought- fast idle in the bar- condom mirrors- so maybe the build month makes a difference?
Ahhh thank you for writing in Peter! I was worried I had a ‘cut and shut’ job. Very interesting how they changed it during the year. I still can’t believe there is also nothing forth coming on the wiring variance in the 2001 bike. I can only assume that too was a late change before model change. Thanks anyway. I was wondering! 🙏
@@MyRestoration1 have you tried looking on Honda MARIS for the wiring diagram differences? I’m sure you know about this but in case you don’t, you sign up and pay a fee which gives you access to all the technical info for most if not all of the bikes Honda have made. (Europe I think) It’s like an online manual and technical bulletin/parts fiche in one place. I think it might help you with the answers you are looking for. If you know about this, ignore and thanks for making your videos. Your content is excellent and I love these fault finding ones in particular. Best regards
For a manufacturer famous for reliability you sure are having a shitload of problems with this bike!......I have a Fireblade 929 with an intermittent neutral switch problem (changed the neutral switch and sub wire to switch ,checked earth) STILL DOES IT! lol Honda gotta love em!
I think to be fair this bike was messed with a few times after Honda had it. I think of all the bikes I’ve got this is No. 1 in build quality. No question..
Would anyone know why the fuel pump on my 96 800 VFr fuel pump keeps running when the ignition is switched on? My friend is recommissioning it for me and it's not playing ball. I believe it is meant to stop after a couple of seconds?
Because the sensor switches off the pump after fuel pressure is achieved. It turns back on and off when the engine uses fuel. I would check the pumps fuel pressure regulator.
I’m picking up a Honda vfr 2002 and when I went to check the bike out the guy said it starts no problem… I used the kill switch to turn it off when he turned it on and then I went to test ride it and it did not start he said “what do you do to my bike!” And the lights where on killswitche was not on kill but it wouldn’t start… then after turning off and on it did with the kickstand up but it was in nutral the whole time so it couldn’t of been being in first gear with the kickstand down and we assumed it was the sensor that is connected to the kick stand that we thought it was saying it was down when it was not and that was the reason it didn’t start? But how could that be when it’s in neutral? I’m still confused about it and kinda worried for when I pick it up… I hope it’s just dirt in the sensor on the kickstand giving a false reading 😅
Hi Justin, I’m afraid the only way you are going to feel comfortable owning a bike like this is to either have a great mechanic nearby or learn this bike and where and why. Once you sort this out yourself you will feel more confident. First place I would look is the earth block. Pull it apart and clean it. The issue can be very simple! Good luck. They are great great bikes
@@MyRestoration1 thanks I’ll have to check it out did you open the earth block on the vfr ? I would love to see a video of you cleaning and opening it up!
Wish I could find a mechanic with your skills. My 1999 VFR 800 fi won't start unless I plug out my MAP sensor first.. And then it runs fine, but with the FI light lit. There is no air or vacuum tube going to the map sensor, just a three pin connector, Is this normal?
Thanks for the kind comments Joseph. No this is far from normal in my experience. The basic premise is to ensure that all the sensors are delivering data to the Ecm first as designed. If the fi light shows up or the motor doesn’t run correctly then maybe look and earth grounds first. All vacuum pipes must me good. Then clear the fi light as the video shows and start there. Sometimes it can seem overwhelming but take your time and tick off checks. You will find it. Usually it’s a simple problem because in general this bike is fairly simple and honest. You will find it. It’s simple…🧐
@@MyRestoration1 Thank you for your kind reply. Yes, I thought it was missing a vacuum cable alright. How else would it measure air pressure after all? So now I need to source a vacuum cable for it, and to find a tutorial on how to fit it. Thanks very much. Your videos are amazing. You have real skill and dedication toward your craft.
Interesting vids, but how the hell can u concentrate with that horrendous racket playing in the background, FFS who on earth thought Jazz was classed as music, worst racket ever.
Funny comment; I would have completely agreed as a much younger person, but as an older adult I can appreciate that racket since I can occasionally get bored with the types of music I've listened to for decades and my tastes in music and cuisine have expanded. Still, I can only listen to jazz for so long and still have my 'go to' music genre.
Bad design crap by Honda to have two different ground planes outside of components. Shame on them. Bad idea and can be a serious failure problem if they bleed over. Let alone to be in the same connector. Bad Honda.
I thought the same at the time but actually it’s brilliant…their are 2 types of identified grounds in this bike. High and low current grounds. By splitting them you get to save the ecm and Speedo components when there is a spike. I wish they simply explained this in the manual. Now we have guys who are reading each other’s solution of soldering everything together! Good luck when it goes wrong.
About the earth block- If you solder the grounds all together and then provide from that solder point a new earth wire (from there straight back to the negative terminal of the battery) it will not effect anything upwards as the earth is the end of the circuit- electrons go only one way. Maybe it seems to be a backyard fix, but its a perminant fix and will not reoccur like fitting a new earth block or clean the terminals in the block will given time. Thats coming from an electronics engineer on the VFRdiscussion forum.....lets not dilute the truth. If any of those earth returns in the harness down stream of the block are faulty this fix will solve them. At the end of day if you want factory original "perfect"you'll want a new harness all together, especially a bike that was so poorly looked after as the one you got there- you can and would get much better example for a resto job as they are a mass produced bike not something rare or even have much demand for- here, even an original near perfect condition one can't fetch $5000aud they sit of FB market place forever. So when do the maths this effort are purely a "labour of love". Is a big effort all the same, maybe it keeps you out of trouble......
Thanks Damon, you obviously no your stuff. This was a fun project. I have a real job. Has given many viewer a lot of enjoyment as it was for me to learn my craft. That’s priceless
So good job you done !😊 i have a 1999 800 fi to ,an aniversire model ! Its so nice bike to drive ! And that gear driven cams, one of the best engine ever buildt . V4 power !😊😊😊
Crikey you have a lot of patience. Kudos. All vfr owners should watch this.
watched it
I had a 2000 and it didn't have the hiss system. it was a US market bike. I loved it. Now I have a 1991 vfr750. I love seeing these bikes be brought back to life instead of trashed. I'm so happy right now 😁.
That’s very inspiring Matthew! 🙏
@@MyRestoration1 no sir, your work is inspiring. Thank you 🙏
Hats off to your determination and patience. I couldn’t do it. When you factor in your time , it’s gotta be a labor of love because you would never make a profit on it
Time to walk away from that
Thank you John? Yes I worked hard at it. To make a business of it? No. Just the idea that one day I would hear that engine run and then make it look better then what it’s market value claims is all I need. Restoring bikes for a living would be a fool’s errand. Carbon bikes yes! Thanks for chiming in
@@johnhart686 keep watching..
Love the musical interludes
I love the perseverance. This is why I like 1970's or older motorcycles. No computers to deal with.
Exactly Dave but I’m discovering that as long as you can recognise what is computer related and what isn’t then we can progress and actually enjoy the innovation. What a machine!
I have a 2000 VFR 800 F, it is original condition, has a manual choke and rubber gaiters for the mirrors
I have a 2001 VFR 800. One day bike ran fine the next day it didnt start. The transponder in the bike ignition key gave me the exact symptom as in your video the green light and the Fi light stayed lit. Checked through everything electrical, worked fine with the spare key. Maybe both keys went down on your bike. The RFID chip . I had a van that did the same thing too. Thanks for an amazing Video.
Thanks for chipping in. If you continue through the videos you’ll see what was one of the main causes. Broken ignition wire and a faulty ecm. It’s was a tough project…
Remarkable patience and perseverance. Bravo!
Thank you Blazes 🙏
Bright! what perseverance! these bikes are really too sophisticated to last more than 20 years. Congratulations again.
A tip for messing with Hondas with H.I.S.S without the right key. It wont let the fuel pump ground without the right key. What we did on a 929 was snip the ground wire before the ECU and connect it to ground. When we turn the key on now the pump always run but that is not really a problem if you can get the bike for cheap.
Really enjoying your videos. Impressed to hear Pat Metheny the way up in the background.
That’s right Gary. Well heard! Pat is huge on my playlist. Not for everyone sadly
Awsm vid series :)
Well done I was also going yes yes yes so pleased for you👍😊😊
I bought a 2001 vfr about 4 years ago only 15,000 0n it. so glad its great shape as I do my own maintenance, but not much experience with electrical. things that made a big difference, straight bars AMB from Germany , Givi windscreen. went up 2 on rear sprocket really made her come alive. Yoshimura exhaust. now 45,000 runs fine. can cruise all day at high speeds.
Thanks for your comment Joelb. I’ve not ridden a VFR yet but it sounds great for long rides. 👍
how is the temp in city? does it overheat a lot?
Yeah my 5th generation Honda VFR800fi is on a 2001 reg plate with hiss ignition and hecs3 cats in exhaust collector box however it's in conifer green so a 2000 model. There great bikes once patient enough to get on with the weight. The pair valve system is to be blanked off with the 2 plate kit and the standard end can strangles the hidden power IMO. Nice to see you fit a digital gear indicator if possible to this 5th generation please. Also I love my fork brace with fork gaurds. Great stuff good luck.
Very well done. 👍
Great work Rob... happy you got to the bottom of it.
nice one slowly getting there
You listen to great stuff I’m a musician and own a vfr800 1999. 18000 miles. Awesome bike.
Thanks Jo Po!
Oh and I've just enjoyed another worthy change over to the new modern OAT spec anti freeze! Super smooth.
Thank you Rob, interesting and detailed videos. Have owned my 2000 FiY for 20 years and found your work inspirational if a little daunting as I only have a garage, basic tool kit, an Abba stand and no formal training in motorcycle maintenance. My VFR has completed 27,500 miles and has been very reliable except for regulator/rectifier failure at 22,000 miles and cooling system thermostat replacement at 23,000 miles. At the end of last summer, I experienced my first issues with a cracked central lower cowl fairing. On removal, I found that at some point one of my Honda maintenance men had swapped my good cowl with a tape repaired item. The poor repair eventually led to more cracks, including a lug crack on the side fairing. Your demonstration of plastic welding will be very useful to many of us.
That’s appalling behaviour by the garage! Hopefully you can resolve the cracks well enough. Just don’t overheat the plastic as I’ve shown and you’ll be fine.
Brilliant job - I was keen to see how you got on after the previous episode!
I have to subscribe... I admire your skills!!! Thank you for these videos. VERY helpful!!!
Look forward to the electrics of your Commando, no more than 10 wires to connect and no electronics! 😁
That’s how I train myself to be grateful 😂
Hey good morning form Norway. Nice videos I like them a lot. Have a 1998 Honda VFR 800 FI myself. Have had it since 2000, plans to change the plastic during the winter.
Hello Tor from Norway. I bet it must be a fantastic country to ride in. Good luck with changing the fairings! 👍
Progress when you don’t give up!!!
currently going through Fi light problems again as mine starts off, then when I go to ride it the light comes on and stays on. Glad you fixed yours, hopefully I can use some of the information here to fix mine. 👍
90% it’s a ground. Vibration. The ecm either works or not. Check your regulator. Kevs shed shows how to test. Good luck 🤞
I've got a 98 which I've hardly ridden and taking out of mothballs this year and I can't tell you how made up I am that you're doing this project. I also restore bikes. I've gotta congratulate you mate on the quality of your output there's no doubt your channel will take off. Asking for a friend, lol, fit a gear change indicator, not heard of a convincing solution and I'd totally love one there's so much torque driving round town you could be in anything from 2nd to 6th!
Thanks Miles. Great comment 👍🙏
Great videos. Great skills.
Much appreciated!
Thats a shit tonne of work my freind but you held on...concratulations to you and your new VFR 800 (no blinking) FI 😉
@@whitechair3846 I’m following your comments through the series thank you 😂 👏
Wow, I appreciate you tenacity and patience. I'm no mechanic, but is seems the HSI and ECM have to be paired from word go.
Exactly Tim. It turns out why if you can buy an ECM without keys there is a reason it’s cheap!
Thanks for chipping in!
This is brilliant! Well done!
Thank you Richard 👍
You need tenacity plus a bit of luck..getting that known working donor will help, good luck. I was counting as well...lol
Keep watching….I get 2 out of 2!
Tenacious !!!
Well done, you got there.
I am enjoying your channel.
Just a thought, could the defective regulator rectifier have caused voltage/power surges that damaged the ecu?
Exactly my thoughts Anthony! I tested it and it was faulty. Ordered a new one, was about to shoot another video, tested it and it was ok…crazy.
You have the patience of a saint. There comes a point where you have to think is this worth it, the time more than anything? Time spent on trying to sort this problem, you could instead be doing other more productive things, other projects. I am thinking although the VFR is a nice bike when working properly, the engine management system on it is pretty rudimentary. It was of a time when the technology wasn't well developed and frankly was pretty primitive. It's not a system that you can connect via an OBD2 cable to a plug in code reader or to laptop and then read the error codes and find exactly what the problem is with the bike. This is the frustrating thing. Engine diagnostic systems have moved on massively since the time this gen VFR was built and even then Honda was never a head of the curve.
Well done for getting it sorted.
I would have soon given up.
Thanks for chipping in Alex! I’m still not sure why I added this (and now a 2nd one) the the list of projects..I guess after the Royal Enfield and the Norton I wanted to try a Japanese bike, not so much as a full restoration but as a riding bike. I actually bought another in frustration, then managed to sort the 1st one out so I have 2 which could help pay for 1 etc. After my experience on the old bikes this VFR is anything but basic! It is a fantastic machine, visceral unlike the new stuff my friends ride today. I’m very glad I’ve done something impulsive!
@@MyRestoration1 I have a mint low mileage 6k mile 1998 bike which I am dreading when something will go wrong on it which it will inevitably do. It's running a bit rough at the moment especially at low revs up to around 3 - 3.5k revs very choppy on and off the throttle so thinking is it electrics, ignition or fuel related? I hadn't considered injectors fouling up as it doesn't get used much to my shame. I have other bikes which I invariably jump on first, but the VFR is still a very nice bike when it's working properly. The sound track is pretty special. Many thanks.
@@alexmorgan3435 you’ll see in my next video that the idle is a bit rough on the 2nd vfr800fi. I pulled the throttle body off. It’s amazing it ran at all. The injectors are very dirty. It’s probably a possibility.
@@MyRestoration1 It might well be the case, or a whole host of other things ......... I don't have the experience, knowledge, skill or patience that you have with bikes, although I am not totally mechanically unaware. Can easily do basic servicing and I do, have rebuilt car engines in the past, but nothing to the same extent with bikes. Just general servicing so far, fitting accessories. The thought of fault finding on a VFR seems like looking for a pin in a haystack which doesn't fill me with joy. I shall have to take a look at it soon as I would like to ride it this summer and last year it had got quite annoying the lumpy throttle and tick over. I shall just have to get my hands dirty. At least my bike is still pretty clean like it just came out of the showroom so shouldn't be too hard to work on ie hopefully nothing corroded or seized. Many thanks for the suggestion. ATB.
The second VFR you bought is actually a 98 or 99 type RC46A, not a 2000 (witch is the same that 2001). It is not fitted with HISS key, has the soft rubber tubes at the base of the mirors and hasn't the catalysator into its egshaust yet. It has a false choke lever that is in fact made to raise rpm at start when the engine is cold. The injection plays the role of automatic choke anyway. But it's not a manual choke.
Thanks for chiming in 👍 when I bought it I thought the same as you, however this is not so! Hiss was fitted on regional bikes. Not all 2001 had hiss such as Australia etc, can’t remember which countries exactly.
You are right about the choke. As injectors do not have such a device anyway. The cat conversion was later 2001 ‘interim’ model before VTEC. Also the exhaust headers were make smaller on the 2001 to heat the cat converter quicker but loosing about 3-5 hp as a result. Trust me this 2nd VFR800FI is a 2000 model with manual choke and large headers. I was also surprised but I have researched this at the time thinking someone had messed with it but it is completely stock. There you go 👍
@@MyRestoration1 Indeed, that's a very special case. Anyway, the latest V4 fitted with gears is one of the best bike ever made by Honda, and its an excellent choice that you've made. Drive safe !
The cold start lever can be retrofitted, my 2000 was showing with high idle issues and spark plug fouling.
I retrofitted the cold start from the earlier bike balanced the starter valves etc and the bike ran a lot better.
However the temperature would not get above 65° in normal riding unless sat in traffic resulting in high fuel consumption.
I replaced the thermostat and now the bike runs at a consistent 75° whilst riding with normal fuel economy.
The sticking thermostat may have been part of the reason for the high idle issues in the first place.
You know your music.
Great videos. As a VFR owner I never knew about the relationship between the ecm and key. Looking for a decent motorcycle hydraulic table similar to yours. Any recommendations?
Thanks Trevor. Mine is manual. In my opinion they are all a bit rubbish but as long as they hold the bike up I’m ok for the price.
Just fyi- I have a 2000 model which is the same as the one you just bought- fast idle in the bar- condom mirrors- so maybe the build month makes a difference?
Ahhh thank you for writing in Peter! I was worried I had a ‘cut and shut’ job. Very interesting how they changed it during the year. I still can’t believe there is also nothing forth coming on the wiring variance in the 2001 bike. I can only assume that too was a late change before model change. Thanks anyway. I was wondering! 🙏
@@MyRestoration1 have you tried looking on Honda MARIS for the wiring diagram differences? I’m sure you know about this but in case you don’t, you sign up and pay a fee which gives you access to all the technical info for most if not all of the bikes Honda have made. (Europe I think) It’s like an online manual and technical bulletin/parts fiche in one place. I think it might help you with the answers you are looking for.
If you know about this, ignore and thanks for making your videos. Your content is excellent and I love these fault finding ones in particular.
Best regards
@@scootyman2974 thanks Scooty man. I’ll make a note as I’ve not heart of this archive. Thanks for the encouragement! 🙏
The likelihood is that your second bike is actually a previous year bike that was old dealer stock and sold in. 2000
I tend to agree. I did check records and it does show date of production 2000. Must have been a late 98 style model
Older bike was different font and no "vfr" on rpm counter as well as the rubber booted mirrors.
2:30 Marcus Miller?
Yes Maxine. Well done 👍
For a manufacturer famous for reliability you sure are having a shitload of problems with this bike!......I have a Fireblade 929 with an intermittent neutral switch problem (changed the neutral switch and sub wire to switch ,checked earth) STILL DOES IT! lol Honda gotta love em!
I think to be fair this bike was messed with a few times after Honda had it. I think of all the bikes I’ve got this is No. 1 in build quality. No question..
Would anyone know why the fuel pump on my 96 800 VFr fuel pump keeps running when the ignition is switched on? My friend is recommissioning it for me and it's not playing ball. I believe it is meant to stop after a couple of seconds?
Because the sensor switches off the pump after fuel pressure is achieved. It turns back on and off when the engine uses fuel. I would check the pumps fuel pressure regulator.
@@MyRestoration1 Awesome, thanks for taking the time to reply. I'll pass on your answer to him.
I’m picking up a Honda vfr 2002 and when I went to check the bike out the guy said it starts no problem… I used the kill switch to turn it off when he turned it on and then I went to test ride it and it did not start he said “what do you do to my bike!” And the lights where on killswitche was not on kill but it wouldn’t start… then after turning off and on it did with the kickstand up but it was in nutral the whole time so it couldn’t of been being in first gear with the kickstand down and we assumed it was the sensor that is connected to the kick stand that we thought it was saying it was down when it was not and that was the reason it didn’t start? But how could that be when it’s in neutral? I’m still confused about it and kinda worried for when I pick it up… I hope it’s just dirt in the sensor on the kickstand giving a false reading 😅
Hi Justin, I’m afraid the only way you are going to feel comfortable owning a bike like this is to either have a great mechanic nearby or learn this bike and where and why. Once you sort this out yourself you will feel more confident. First place I would look is the earth block. Pull it apart and clean it. The issue can be very simple! Good luck. They are great great bikes
@@MyRestoration1 thanks I wish you were near by haha 😂
@@MyRestoration1 thanks I’ll have to check it out did you open the earth block on the vfr ? I would love to see a video of you cleaning and opening it up!
Wish I could find a mechanic with your skills.
My 1999 VFR 800 fi won't start unless I plug out my MAP sensor first..
And then it runs fine, but with the FI light lit.
There is no air or vacuum tube going to the map sensor, just a three pin connector,
Is this normal?
Thanks for the kind comments Joseph. No this is far from normal in my experience. The basic premise is to ensure that all the sensors are delivering data to the Ecm first as designed. If the fi light shows up or the motor doesn’t run correctly then maybe look and earth grounds first. All vacuum pipes must me good. Then clear the fi light as the video shows and start there. Sometimes it can seem overwhelming but take your time and tick off checks. You will find it. Usually it’s a simple problem because in general this bike is fairly simple and honest. You will find it. It’s simple…🧐
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Thank you for your kind reply.
Yes, I thought it was missing a vacuum cable alright.
How else would it measure air pressure after all?
So now I need to source a vacuum cable for it, and to find a tutorial on how to fit it.
Thanks very much.
Your videos are amazing.
You have real skill and dedication toward your craft.
So is that flashing a fault code
Just count how many times it blanks, and that tells you the code to let you know what is going on with it.
The light goes off when bike is running
Jaxon "Geoffrey " Jackson ?
Nope
@@MyRestoration1 look up Jazz Club on the fast show. He did a spot on there , for us jazz philistines lol
@@miles-thesleeper-monroe8466 …nice…great
When coding a key you require at least one original key
Second one is a 99 model, not 2000. 2000 is the same has 2001
Level 42?
Nope 😄
@@MyRestoration1 amazing job
@@robertcornelius8056 cheers Rob. Thanks for a great dinner and wine last night!
Hi
Interesting vids, but how the hell can u concentrate with that horrendous racket playing in the background, FFS who on earth thought Jazz was classed as music, worst racket ever.
Micky Mouse?…enough said 😂
Funny comment; I would have completely agreed as a much younger person, but as an older adult I can appreciate that racket since I can occasionally get bored with the types of music I've listened to for decades and my tastes in music and cuisine have expanded. Still, I can only listen to jazz for so long and still have my 'go to' music genre.
@@bradk8694 that’s why I need to be careful and focus on the restoration but I’ll see how I feel or what TH-cam says
Recent bikes are garbage.
Bad design crap by Honda to have two different ground planes outside of components. Shame on them. Bad idea and can be a serious failure problem if they bleed over. Let alone to be in the same connector. Bad Honda.
I thought the same at the time but actually it’s brilliant…their are 2 types of identified grounds in this bike. High and low current grounds. By splitting them you get to save the ecm and Speedo components when there is a spike. I wish they simply explained this in the manual. Now we have guys who are reading each other’s solution of soldering everything together! Good luck when it goes wrong.
About the earth block- If you solder the grounds all together and then provide from that solder point a new earth wire (from there straight back to the negative terminal of the battery) it will not effect anything upwards as the earth is the end of the circuit- electrons go only one way. Maybe it seems to be a backyard fix, but its a perminant fix and will not reoccur like fitting a new earth block or clean the terminals in the block will given time. Thats coming from an electronics engineer on the VFRdiscussion forum.....lets not dilute the truth. If any of those earth returns in the harness down stream of the block are faulty this fix will solve them. At the end of day if you want factory original "perfect"you'll want a new harness all together, especially a bike that was so poorly looked after as the one you got there- you can and would get much better example for a resto job as they are a mass produced bike not something rare or even have much demand for- here, even an original near perfect condition one can't fetch $5000aud they sit of FB market place forever. So when do the maths this effort are purely a "labour of love". Is a big effort all the same, maybe it keeps you out of trouble......
Thanks Damon, you obviously no your stuff. This was a fun project. I have a real job. Has given many viewer a lot of enjoyment as it was for me to learn my craft. That’s priceless
100% effort Rob, thanks mate@@MyRestoration1