Judge gives Zuma reasons for dismissing recusal bid against Downer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- Former President Jacob Zuma hears the reasons behind Judge Nkosinathi Chili's decision to dismiss his bid for the recusal of lead prosecutor Advocate Billy Downer in his ongoing corruption case.
Zuma's legal team requested these reasons ahead of their planned application for leave to appeal the judgment made in March.
Initially, the judge intended to provide his reasoning at the conclusion of the trial, but Zuma's team argued for an earlier disclosure.
Zuma, along with French arms company Thales, faces charges of fraud and corruption related to South Africa's controversial arms deal from the 1990s.
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Someone once said, "I want my day in court to clear my name."
I guess he finally got his day in court. Not sure if he's clearing his name, though.
By then,he was deploying stooges on each and every key position as his guards. He never thought people were watching him. Minister of Finance for seven days,Van Rooyen and others. Jerrr Zuma very naughty old man
Zuma always protested his innocence and kept saying if he gets to be in court he will prove his innocence. He is a liar and a thief something like satan
Zuma his not Satan .You are Satan yourself
How long will Zuma's tactics be entertained with our tax money, just conclude this case and throw him to jail if found guilty, let our country move pn
😂 because he is guilty you say 😂😂
The ANC protected Jacob Zuma for twenty years and he destroyed it in less than five months😂😂😂😂😂.
Do you mean Zuma destroyed South Africa? French Arms Deal, 9 wasted years, with almost all financial metrics and state owned enterprises destroyed in the country. Stop being a brainless sheep and do your own research. Tribalism pathetic. Economic growth, foreign investment, unemployment, the currency, property values, government debt, budget deficit, performance of the JSE, retirement fund etc etc etc...
Uyahlanya wen
Nope it's the other way around Zuma protected ANC.
@@petrosdlamini1761 🤔You the glass half full guy, ain't you?
Relax President to u
Keep this old man in prison, wasting Tax payers money, he is a big problem.
Fuseg wen
If your intellectual was telling you right and your extra eyes was of used to you, you should be simple reason like..."Why is the state find it difficult to just simple change Dawner" and get another one as it is allowed by the state. But your love of establishment and wanting to be relevant and be approved by the master as their other puppets, that's why you reasoning in such unreasonable manner.
Sduphunga
Send him to Robben Island. What goes around comes around. 😢
@@Magutshwa-CONSPIRACY_THEORIST because they dont need to do what zuma says, he is not the judge.
Mr "I want my day in court"😅
This is a coward 😂😂😂
He is practicing his rights...11/9/2024
Jakob Zuma believes in the concept of the "rule-by-law" and not the principle of the "rule-of-law." He thinks that we must go back to the medieval era of the elders having the final say on anything, be it personal, family, or society. He has shown utter disdain and contempt for the orderly regulation (rule-of-law) of personal and community conduct on their responsibility, accountability, and authority.
How stupid do you have to be, you purport to know what Zuma is thinking about a European concept (The medieval period is the time between 1066 and 1485. William of Normandy's triumph over King Harold at the Battle of Hastings marked the dawn of a new era.) Foolish man!
He will be in hospital, mark my words.
Exactly 💯 agreed
Or change lawyers and that process will stall the trial for period of about 09 months, as the "new lawyer" will be familiarizing him/herself with the thousands of documents...11/9/2024
I thought democracy said you should use all legal means to defend yourself how then is it abuse of court if the law allows it.
because, if your family is killed and there is a video of it.
but the suspect keeps using legalities to delay the prosecution... would you like that?
@@kenchucky2997 law is not based on feelings
@@sabeloshabangu1485 ok granted.
but that wouldnt be abuse then in your eyes?
its acceptable to appeal until the suspect passes away?
that means no court case would ever end.
@@kenchucky2997 a more efficient judicial and prosecution system would solve that problem.
Rationality, abuse is when you use something abnormally.
Zuma will still appeal until hes no more.
Biggest mistake was 2007 Polokwane ANC conference.
No no no Mafikeng 50th Conference in 1997 actually, Mama Winnie was supposed to be the deputy president of Mbeki....we would never be talking about this crook today.
Keep your golo in prison
Back to prison one of these days. ZUMA....
Zuma think's he's a rule of law 😂
Dali committed PURGERY he should be disbarred and striped if ALL titles , degrees ,diplomas and all the crap ZUMA WAS NEVER TERMINAL
Makes absolutely zero sense that a judge is unable for the rest of the year. There are 4 months left in the year, what is keeping him so busy. Either way I believe the courts should make an attempt to clear his diary for the trial.
Mtshiniwam is sinking. As he said i want my day in court to clear my name. Indeed Mtshiniwam we are waiting. Please clear your name and stop playing game's. 😂😂😂😂
Over R20mil spent by the state to pursue an encrypted fax of promises for R500k protection fee😂
This old zuma is so scared of downer 😮
It's Billy Downer chance to be popular, and enhance his cv, and his legacy. Prosecuting Zima is career enhancing. So he won't let this opportunity go in smoke
It is about time that the courts take a tough stance against lawyers who ill-advise and mislead their clients about the possi bility of success even in the face of a feeble and weak case. but such cases are still are allowed by the registrar's to be filed thus glutting the courts roll unnecessarily. These lawyers gives by omission or by c ommission all lawyers a bad reputation of being spineless, cold blooded and heartless. I rest my case.
I thought this case was done finished such a shame for this to go on nd on who is paying for all this 😢😢😢😢 now he is the leader of a new party what type of system are we running in this country why cant taxpayers money be used for the poor look how many are suffering no matter what colour or religion this is now becoming a big headache for the people if this country if it was any poor man he/she would have been convicted nd sent to jail to serve their sentences already all this now ridiculous😢😢😢
How coes a former president qualify for legal aid. Cant he sell one of his cars and pay legal fees
Zondo is now retired.😢Zuma got no grouse now.😢
Another Dollar in Dali Mpofu's Account.
🤣🤣reasons comes 6 months later wow …
The trial will eventually take place, whether you like it or not.Wheels of justice in motion
It’s clear when the paper is written for you to read.
Zuma Sheeps in the comments is so funny
Who's the judge president is it the same one involved in Senzo Meyiwa case if so cleared where this case is going
Mpofu says his Public Protector R13-million legal bill is ‘peanuts’ and he could have charged twice the amount
It doesn't matter what SCA said ....appeals are coming...and other applications are coming...Gwaza Mkhonto Gwaza ....Viva MK....The NPA knows deep down in their hearts that another application or applications are coming so the appeals and it must ready itself for yrs of litigation....11/9/2024
Why Downer So eager to prosecute Zuma? Is he the same as Zondo wanting nothing fair but to have Zuma in Jail by hook or crook ways?
But Downer is not going to hand down the judgment of the case at the end. I don't see any thing wrong.
Meanwhile, Downer travels with bodyguards ,booked hotels, and flown around at taxpayers' expense 😂
Zuma must appeal. It is not acceptable that 70 year old, apartheid appointed prosecutors, are going after our elders for fighting apartheid.
The sooner he joins Dudu the better for SA
You are very correct my brother...that prosecutor must go..11/9/2024
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Stand your ground Sokwalisa (Adv N Buthelezi) push for another application....the NPA will feel you Shenge...11/9/2024
Daluxolo Christopher Mpofu ?? @ R ?? ???.??
That's the most useless Lawyer...he can't even defend a goats thief in my village
@@mvuyimpithi8648are you one of the useful goats thief in your village, since Mpofu is useless?
Hence we need change this EU judiary systems in country
Sure, lets africanise the whole system so that we can be a third world country for the rest of time. Have you been in Europe? Dont you think those countries are better off than any african country?
2025 there will be a fresh application or appeal and the NPA will be obliged to respond to that and it may take 02 - 03 yrs until NPA gives up.....We are just exhausting it....Gwaza Mkhonto Gwaza!!!!!!! We throw them any kind of appeal or application they follow along...14/9/2024
NPA plz plz plz m begging you, as from today or tomorrow start preparing for a fresh application or appeal...it is inevitable guys....this is a real possibility, infact it will happen....for now forget about the merits...11/9/2024 and Shenge (Adv N Buthelezi) had hinted that so state gear yourself up. We are looking at Sine Die... Gwaza Mkhonto Gwaza!!!!! Note made on 11/9/2024
Sokwalisa (Adv N Buthelezi) is correct this case must be postponed Sine die (indefinitely) ....hammer that point Shenge...if they didn't give you make means that this "trial" goes on and on with appeals and applications ungabayeki....u are on the right track brother...11/9/2024
Captured Judges hired to work against President Zuma
So any judge who rules against Zuma is hired to work against him?
So you truly believe he is the clean?
did you not hear the reasoning?
you should become a judge then, seeing as you can see more critical reasons than this judge.
The judge whispered in isiXhosa...😂😂😂😂...i like it...11/9/2024...But Adv Billy Downer SC must be realistic no trial will take place by 14 April 2025 ....there will be appeals and applications that time....that one is obvious....these appeals will endure until 2028 at least or beyond..11/9/2024
NPA plz start today to prepare papers for appeal or application dont waste time....This prosecutor must be removed come rain come sunshine...11/9/2024
Does the State says that if Downer was to die tomorrow it means that will be the end of this case because they can't allocate other prosecutor to case other than Downer?
Why think or wish something so extremely evil that if Downer was to die tomorrow.You have no human feelings on people who are doing their according to the book.Just think if someone was to have the same sentiments about you while you performing your duties.
@@davidmkefa4188 He can die anytime like you and me we can die anytime that doesn't mean inhuman unless you not gonna die you are going to live for ever so as your Downer, you fail to answer a simple QUESTION is Downer the only Prosecutor who can only prosecute President Zuma that's my QUESTION to you if your answer is yes then there's something fishy with this case.
With Zuma's alleged sickness ,I wonder if he will survive. Ramaphosa should pardon Zuma.😢😢😢
He cant pardon him even if wants to. The reason being he Zuma is not yet find guilty.
This judge I feel pity for him....he will be bogged down with applications and applications, appeals and appeals till he bleeds from his nose....Carry on JZ if the law allows explore it no one can criticise you...we are going to 2028 with only appeals and applications nothing more and recusals...11/9/2024
Jacob is problematic and should be in prison. Instead, the state is spending billions entertaining his rubbish.
Hence we need change this EU judiary systems in country
The problem is a stobborn corrupt apartheid prosecutor who has refused to step down
Our tax money for this lying, thieving, corrupt trash
Dream on white fellow, dream on.
Your utterances regarding ex Pres.Zuma are demeaning,derogatory, insulting,atrocious,and above all very provocative.Especialy in today's climate ,where your 'likes' continue to butcher,burn,shoot Africans and make them animal fodder.Imagine,the audacity of referring to an elder as RUBBISH.Please hold your horses.