For the record, I finished high school and only done half a year of TAFE because I got board and left. Your content is interesting and engaging, and you explain it in a way that's easily understood.
Politicians will devastate trust and continue to lower the Bar for decades until the option to vote for the least not wanted candidates reaches the vanishing point and ultimate depths of despair.
I was just in my last year of high school when all this played out, I remember my father, a staunch labor supporter, being absolutely disgusted with the dishonesty of it all , trying to explain it to me, it all went over my head at the time. Thank you now it all makes sense.
I finally understand the implications of the Gair Affair in that Qld would have elected 6 senators not the usual 5. Still the 1974 election did destroy the DLP as a political force, though by a strange occurrence a DLP senator got elected in Vic in the 2000s as I recall. Who became the DLP leader when Gair was rolled? What I remember about DLP candidates was that all their names began with A, B or C to get the donkey vote.
I think the average Australian is unaware of the role of, and in all likelihood, the existence of the Executive Council. A video about its history and role would be much appreciate
Theres something i would love to see covered at some point that ive always wondered about. Could a state change its constitution to abolish its governorship and operate under a mini "republican state" system with an elected or appointed governor position as a state in the commonwealth? Do the states and commonwealth have their own individual Crowns, or is there one Crown that is shared by all the states and the commonwealth?
That's a big question, and I've written a lot about it. Will try to do a Clarion on it, but as with many topics, it's quite complex and hard to distil into a relatively short video. But I'll put it on my list.
Vey informative, now I understand what the 'Gair Affair' was about as I was too young to be aware of politics at the time. Hopefully this video has index terms that allow it to be found when someone searches for Gair Affair.
@@constitutionalclarion1901when you search up "gair affair" this video unfortunately doesn't pop up! Only when you search for the night of the long prawns. You should tag it w/ gair affair
Thanks for this indepth look at the era of the paradigm shift in politics . I have one question relating to a referendum result in 1984 being question 2 Interchange of powers which if I am correct started in 1974 with state premiers meeting to attempt to overcome section 90 of the Constitution. Could it be seen that the question was a precursor to the Australia Act 1986?
I haven't gone back to look at the debates on that referendum question, but my recollection was that the interchange of powers proposal was to even up the current federal system. The Commonwealth Constitution already allows the States to refer matters to the Commonwealth, but doesn't have a provision that goes the other direction. People are constantly saying that we need a clearer distribution of responsibilities in the federal system, and this referendum question would have helped achieve it. I don't think it had anything at all to do with the Australia Acts 1986. The Australia Acts don't deal with the distribution of powers between the Commonwealth and the States. They instead address the 'residual links' between Australia and the United Kingdom.
@@constitutionalclarion1901 On the piont of the Australia Act when I read the speech given by Mr. Donald Anderson (Swansea East) it would seem that the House of Lords was mislead by the delegation from Australia with their application under section 51(xxxviii) of the Constitution. From his speech he is clearly under the impression that there was an overwhelming support of all the people of each State .
@@1darryloflife Section 51(xxxviii) was the source for the Commonwealth version - not the UK version of the Australia Acts. The UK version was requested under s 4 of the Statute of Westminster. It had the support of each State Parliament, which passed 'request' legislation, as well as the Commonwealth Parliament.
50th anniversary of the defeat of the hapless Snedden in the 1974 a few days ago. He was not a bad man and deserved better than what the Melbourne "Truth" did to him when he died.
The story you have relayed, makes me wonder how good Lionel Murphy was as a high court judge. I wonder how the other appointees from parliament have done eg Gibbs and Evitt. Soon after federation those who wrote the constitution, were in parliament, some of whom went to the High Court
Appointments from politics (and I think you mean Barwick, rather than Gibbs) are always controversial. They have the benefit of a practical understanding of how government works, which is useful, but the disadvantage of political allegiances and ongoing relationships. Some have separated themselves from their political background better than others.
I enjoy these constitutional descriptions of past political machinations. Your recent piece on the proposal for nuclear waste and their location is of huge currency now that the conservatives are crystallising the legality of nuclear power, outside Lucas Heights medical activities. It is of huge national prosperity consequences. However, I feel that the ultimate passage to nuclear power will be derailed by the inability to create and manage a nuclear waste facility. It will be frustrated by the States, special interest groups and primarily by aboriginal land managers. The obstructionist within the Senate will be another hurdle, hugely politicised. We don’t have to analyse too much to realise that it would be the Tasmanian senators that could thwart any effort to adopt nuclear energy in the AEMO endorsed energy mix. Interesting times ahead.
Bjelke-Petersen, the noted authoritarian who deliberately undermined democratic processes and was, in effect, a dictator for nearly 20 years? Why in the hells would you wish he be Premier still?
A consitutional clarion about the Whitlam area....oh boy shits getting real! did you see the new letters where the queen give her thoughts on various PMs ?Whitlams were interesting I think most people internationally know him {for right or wrong}as the guy who got fired by the queen but he wasnt exactly a run of the mill PM was he?
To the best of my knowledge, the Queen got on quite well with Whitlam. He wasn't sacked by the Queen, but by the Governor-General, who alone had the power to do so.
sorry I was referring to the popular view especially overseas although it's hardly correct of course . The austrailan reported that the queens private secretary welcomed the whitlams government as did sir Paul, but over time, they noted his fraught relationship with the senate and consitutional matters,the palace letters show a small pinch of dislike I think on another note it's unlikely the queen wasn't informed of this incident and others you cover in this channel.I cant until we get to see all the royal archives open and see her POV on everything . thanks for the great video!
Ego is a bit of a problem for anyone who is making decisions on facts rather than projected familiarity. Gough was what was expected of legitimate representatives of the people, surrounded by people who only represent themselves, on a good day. David Greaber said that Anarchy is democracy without a formal government, ie in cause-effect, the individuals who know what the issues are, how to deal with them, and why I am you and you are me and we are all together in unity-connection by self-defining temporal superposition substantiation holography, is the constant creation of superimposed parallel coexistence positioning, vanishing-into-no-thing Perspective Principle. Not your average party line, and only an ego maniac like Gough could have carried such a burden casually. It's easier to be a hero if all you see is a way out and not the hidden complexity of Actuality. Therefore educate yourself and pass it around in actual conext of QM-TIME sync-duration Connectivity Completeness. Critique is not Criticism in the same way Precision is not Accuracy and the Measurement Problem situation is "it's always NOW".., Math-Phys-Chem and Geometry in conscious awareness.
As you have pointed out, a loophole remains however -- there is no requirement to actually fill a casual vacancy. An oversight in the 1977 change? -- or was it deliberate?
Section 15 says that the Houses of the State Parliament 'shall' choose a person to hold the place until the expiration of the term. So there is an obligation to fill it.
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For the record, I finished high school and only done half a year of TAFE because I got board and left. Your content is interesting and engaging, and you explain it in a way that's easily understood.
Thanks. I really appreciate that. I'm glad it's useful.
Thank you for putting meat on the bones of newspaper stories
You're most welcome.
Had a chat with Michael Townley many years ago about the dismissal, very interesting.
Politicians will devastate trust and continue to lower the Bar for decades until the option to vote for the least not wanted candidates reaches the vanishing point and ultimate depths of despair.
I was just in my last year of high school when all this played out, I remember my father, a staunch labor supporter, being absolutely disgusted with the dishonesty of it all , trying to explain it to me, it all went over my head at the time.
Thank you now it all makes sense.
It was a quite fascinating time.
ty again for a very enjoyable explanation of this issue in the Australian Constitution. I do enjoy listening to you.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.
Thank you Professor Twomey!
You're very welcome!
This was so interesting to watch! Thank you so much for informing us 😊😊😊😊😊
Glad you enjoyed it.
Can you please explain why the Great Seal of The Commonwealth of Australia, was defaced in 1973 by the then Governor General Paul Hasluck. Thank you.
Another very interesting episode highlighting how little the average person knows about what 's going on behind closed doors.
This needs to ne made into a movie!
I quite agree!
Subscribed :). Thank you for these important vignettes of history.
Glad you appreciate them.
Thanks
You're welcome.
I finally understand the implications of the Gair Affair in that Qld would have elected 6 senators not the usual 5. Still the 1974 election did destroy the DLP as a political force, though by a strange occurrence a DLP senator got elected in Vic in the 2000s as I recall. Who became the DLP leader when Gair was rolled? What I remember about DLP candidates was that all their names began with A, B or C to get the donkey vote.
A string of excellent videos professor!
Thanks!
I think the average Australian is unaware of the role of, and in all likelihood, the existence of the Executive Council. A video about its history and role would be much appreciate
Quite so - but fortunately I have already done a video on it. It's here: studio.th-cam.com/users/videoBRvrHhYH668/edit. Enjoy!
Theres something i would love to see covered at some point that ive always wondered about. Could a state change its constitution to abolish its governorship and operate under a mini "republican state" system with an elected or appointed governor position as a state in the commonwealth? Do the states and commonwealth have their own individual Crowns, or is there one Crown that is shared by all the states and the commonwealth?
That's a big question, and I've written a lot about it. Will try to do a Clarion on it, but as with many topics, it's quite complex and hard to distil into a relatively short video. But I'll put it on my list.
Vey informative, now I understand what the 'Gair Affair' was about as I was too young to be aware of politics at the time. Hopefully this video has index terms that allow it to be found when someone searches for Gair Affair.
I hope so too. I'm no expert in how to activate the algorithm, but I do my best to insert relevant tags.
@@constitutionalclarion1901when you search up "gair affair" this video unfortunately doesn't pop up! Only when you search for the night of the long prawns. You should tag it w/ gair affair
Thanks for this indepth look at the era of the paradigm shift in politics .
I have one question relating to a referendum result in 1984 being question 2 Interchange of powers which if I am correct started in 1974 with state premiers meeting to attempt to overcome section 90 of the Constitution. Could it be seen that the question was a precursor to the Australia Act 1986?
I haven't gone back to look at the debates on that referendum question, but my recollection was that the interchange of powers proposal was to even up the current federal system. The Commonwealth Constitution already allows the States to refer matters to the Commonwealth, but doesn't have a provision that goes the other direction. People are constantly saying that we need a clearer distribution of responsibilities in the federal system, and this referendum question would have helped achieve it.
I don't think it had anything at all to do with the Australia Acts 1986. The Australia Acts don't deal with the distribution of powers between the Commonwealth and the States. They instead address the 'residual links' between Australia and the United Kingdom.
@@constitutionalclarion1901 On the piont of the Australia Act when I read the speech given by Mr. Donald Anderson (Swansea East) it would seem that the House of Lords was mislead by the delegation from Australia with their application under section 51(xxxviii) of the Constitution. From his speech he is clearly under the impression that there was an overwhelming support of all the people of each State .
@@1darryloflife Section 51(xxxviii) was the source for the Commonwealth version - not the UK version of the Australia Acts. The UK version was requested under s 4 of the Statute of Westminster. It had the support of each State Parliament, which passed 'request' legislation, as well as the Commonwealth Parliament.
50th anniversary of the defeat of the hapless Snedden in the 1974 a few days ago. He was not a bad man and deserved better than what the Melbourne "Truth" did to him when he died.
The story you have relayed, makes me wonder how good Lionel Murphy was as a high court judge. I wonder how the other appointees from parliament have done eg Gibbs and Evitt. Soon after federation those who wrote the constitution, were in parliament, some of whom went to the High Court
Appointments from politics (and I think you mean Barwick, rather than Gibbs) are always controversial. They have the benefit of a practical understanding of how government works, which is useful, but the disadvantage of political allegiances and ongoing relationships. Some have separated themselves from their political background better than others.
I enjoy these constitutional descriptions of past political machinations. Your recent piece on the proposal for nuclear waste and their location is of huge currency now that the conservatives are crystallising the legality of nuclear power, outside Lucas Heights medical activities. It is of huge national prosperity consequences. However, I feel that the ultimate passage to nuclear power will be derailed by the inability to create and manage a nuclear waste facility. It will be frustrated by the States, special interest groups and primarily by aboriginal land managers. The obstructionist within the Senate will be another hurdle, hugely politicised. We don’t have to analyse too much to realise that it would be the Tasmanian senators that could thwart any effort to adopt nuclear energy in the AEMO endorsed energy mix. Interesting times ahead.
Wish Joh was Premier now
Bjelke-Petersen, the noted authoritarian who deliberately undermined democratic processes and was, in effect, a dictator for nearly 20 years?
Why in the hells would you wish he be Premier still?
A consitutional clarion about the Whitlam area....oh boy shits getting real!
did you see the new letters where the queen give her thoughts on various PMs ?Whitlams were interesting
I think most people internationally know him {for right or wrong}as the guy who got fired by the queen but he wasnt exactly a run of the mill PM was he?
To the best of my knowledge, the Queen got on quite well with Whitlam. He wasn't sacked by the Queen, but by the Governor-General, who alone had the power to do so.
sorry I was referring to the popular view especially overseas although it's hardly correct of course .
The austrailan reported that the queens private secretary welcomed the whitlams government as did sir Paul, but over time, they noted his fraught relationship with the senate and consitutional matters,the palace letters show a small pinch of dislike I think
on another note it's unlikely the queen wasn't informed of this incident and others you cover in this channel.I cant until we get to see all the royal archives open and see her POV on everything .
thanks for the great video!
I got recommended this out of nowhere on TH-cam, I am very tired and can't focus on this right now but thank you for your contribution to debate.
You are welcome. Come back when you feel up to some intellectual stimulation - there's plenty here.
Joh Bjelke-Petersen, now there is a name I only hear when either part of a joke or some form of corruption.
Ego is a bit of a problem for anyone who is making decisions on facts rather than projected familiarity.
Gough was what was expected of legitimate representatives of the people, surrounded by people who only represent themselves, on a good day.
David Greaber said that Anarchy is democracy without a formal government, ie in cause-effect, the individuals who know what the issues are, how to deal with them, and why I am you and you are me and we are all together in unity-connection by self-defining temporal superposition substantiation holography, is the constant creation of superimposed parallel coexistence positioning, vanishing-into-no-thing Perspective Principle.
Not your average party line, and only an ego maniac like Gough could have carried such a burden casually. It's easier to be a hero if all you see is a way out and not the hidden complexity of Actuality. Therefore educate yourself and pass it around in actual conext of QM-TIME sync-duration Connectivity Completeness.
Critique is not Criticism in the same way Precision is not Accuracy and the Measurement Problem situation is "it's always NOW".., Math-Phys-Chem and Geometry in conscious awareness.
As you have pointed out, a loophole remains however -- there is no requirement to actually fill a casual vacancy. An oversight in the 1977 change? -- or was it deliberate?
Section 15 says that the Houses of the State Parliament 'shall' choose a person to hold the place until the expiration of the term. So there is an obligation to fill it.
@@constitutionalclarion1901 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_Australian_referendum_(Senate_Casual_Vacancies)#Overview
@@constitutionalclarion1901 What happened to Devereux in TAS in 1987 is what i was thinking of. My apologies.