Stupid Boxed Sets: André Previn's Not So "Great" Recordings
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.ย. 2023
- This series is dedicated to boxed sets that the labels issued because they needed something to do. Could anything be more stupid than that? And I stupidly bought them. Did you?
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It wasn't stupid getting it as a starter. I enjoyed it very much, which prompted me much later to get the complete big box. Now I have the big box, perhaps it's time to give it away to a younger music-lover friend to enjoy.
I'd assumed that 'sampler' boxes like this are often testing the market. Big sales, let's consider the 'complete' box; poor sales, ok no demand for a bigger box....
Hi Dave, I'd be more than happy to take those mini boxes off your hands if they need a new home!! 😀
I would buy "Dave Does Carmina." 🤣
Do It!!! Do It!!! (Throw in EXTRA Tam-tams & have an "optional" Barber Adagio ttack that can be inserted anywhere using your shuffle command -- and throw a Tam-tam roll with a crescendo into the Barber)
Agree with you on the the overall pointless-ness of this box, however....the fact that Previn's Turangalila and Shosta 8th are included at least gives those 2 great performances additional "shelf life", for lack of a better term. The more copies of this set that are out in there in the world, the better...if only because it helps to preserve those 2 great recordings (too bad his '75 Prokofiev 5th isn't also in the box). LR
Fun idea for a series. Probably, like many others, I'm not unfamiliar with the problem! Stacked somewhere are bunches of those DHM "clamshell" boxes (not to mention the 100 CD megabox), replete with repetition (but each containing one or two discs that aren't available elsewhere, so space must be found). Same with all those L'Oiseau-Lyre snack boxes, the various repackagings of Bach cantatas, the constant stream of Klemperer, Gould, Bernstein et al., while other titles vanish from the catalog. Am sure you'll find lots to talk about!
Some people might not want to buy a big box of Andre Previn. They might go for a sampling of his work. They could have called it "Random Recordings by Andre Previn" I guess, but you probably wouldn't have bought it then.
Exactly. Call it what it really is and it's not so appetizing.
Andre Previn: The First 10 Recordings We Could Find on the Shelf Box.
How about the DG Stravinsky box set? OK the newer version has a "new work" discovered in the interim but even then the original box wasn't as "complete" as it could have been.
Then again I got the original box for a good price so I won't complain too much and it introduced me to a lot of music I hadn't heard.
To my point of view, the most valuable boxes are those which consist in a complete set of something : the complete sonatas of D. Scarlatti (Scott Ross), the complete symphonies of Haydn (Antal Dorati) etc... especially if the detailed content is impossible to find otherwise. If it is only a compilation of CDs which can all be found separately, it is of little value.
I disagree, I thoroughly enjoy 'conductor' or specific 'orchestra' boxes as you can learn a lot about that person or entity's "style" while at the same time hearing a lot of different repertoire. Could I amass the Karajan 1960s box by buying 81 individual CDs? Sure. But why would I spend that kind of time when DG has already done it for me and it includes a wonderful hardcover book as well. I have been venturing away from the 'composer' boxes recently for this reason - or at least I don't find myself returning to these ever again whereas conductor boxes are just so much fun to listen through.
Thank you for your honest and objective appraisals. As I've got older I can readily appreciate the bias in favour of Previn by British critics. For instance, the Penguin Guide gives both his Elgar Enigma with the LSO and his Belshazzar's Feast with the same orchestra much praise. It was the same with other performers who they favoured: Marriner, Barenboim, Ashkenazy, Rattle for example.
Re; Previn's Gershwin, his best recording of the Concerto as a pianist was the one with André Kostelanetz on Sony, although the sound of the piano itself on that recording is kind of strident and colorless.
It may be stupid, but I'd buy that for a dollar.
Never got Previn; perhaps we in the UK thought we were getting our own Bernstein and for a few years he was seldom off the TV but really! He didn’t do Haydn or Mozart or much Beethoven - I sat through his Choral which was dreadfully dull. He didn’t do Berlioz, Wagner or Verdi or opera in general. Schumann? - don’t think so, Bruckner and Mahler? - don’t recall any. Elgar? Only if he had to. Most of the Russian Romantics? No. Stravinsky? Don’t think so. 2nd Viennese lot? Don’t be silly. RVW? He seemed to go off it. If one was happy to dine off Walton and Rachmaninov (and Nicholas Maw) he was your man but one of the greats? I think not.
He actually did a Mahler 4 and it’s very good, I really respect someone not doing someone they don’t like but putting in effort when they do happen to do it. Previn is the opposite of Rattle really, who didn’t expand musical culture in Britain for what he was doing but was generally very good at what he did, whereas Rattle was very good for musical culture for expanding what people were doing but doesn’t have a good recorded legacy at all.
Perhaps because it was one of the early ones I owned as a kid but I did like Previn's Debussy, that said.... I learned to like other recordings better.
The producers were probably checking to see if there was an audience willing to buy this collection. If profitable they then would do a comprehensive set. Like a successful movie having a sequel for a money grab.
Ese fue el director qué interpretó la obertura 1812. La primera obra clásica qué escuché a los 8 años.
Too many stupid reissues out there, record companies like to group them into a box and cheap sell them. That is a good reason why they keep running their business, the market is drying but they have to keep their jobs 😔
You'd think that the "complete" boxes would come first, followed by the subset boxes. But no. Can't have logic. And the concept of "greatest" is something record execs don't get. Sad. Makes one feel like Carmina's roasting swan.