Legion Go. Period. Same performance, and Armory Crate is not needed (nor is the lousy Legion Space, for that matter - just install Playnite). That big, beautiful screen just makes everything look so great and legible, it's a whole different experience than a 7-incher. Trust me on that one. The Go is the best purchase I made recently, I love this thing so much.
I went to best buy amd they had them both on display, without a second thought I got the legion go. it feels more premium and the built quality is far better than the ally. Navigating windows whit ally was far worst without the touch pad.
I bought an Ally recently at a great discount, I set it up and tried 1 game on it. Less than 24 hours later a bios update popped up in armory crate (bios 337) aaand it killed the triggers, and my right joystick. I honestly really liked it for the 30 minutes I used it while it was operational, but a big company like Asus to be killing their own products with updates just cannot be tolerated IMO. At this point I am seriously considering the currently A LOT more expensive Legion Go....
What do you mean it screw up your controls its just fine. This thing has a learning curve when its new it needs some tinkering. After you get used to it you will like it because its way more flexible than consoles.
Guys, thank you for the replies, but there is nothing to calibrate.During my research I only found 1 occasion where Asus provided any feedbackand it was that the latest mcu firmware fries the microcontroller for these components I listed in "rare" cases. We will see about the rare part soon, I guess... I tired bios rollback, windows rollback and a ton of other stuff and nothing worked. There is 0 input detected.
@@dermendzhiev_96 In armory crate you can calibrate the triggers, joystick, vibration and gyro 💀 How can you find what cause the issues but don't know you can calibrate everything is beyond me.
I hate the sensitivity on the right stick on Rog ally cant properly aim due to stick drift returned it maybe the Hall effects on the go would be better for me
I have a OLED Deck and. LeGo. Don't have an Ally, I'm not a fan of the look of the device, maybe the in person experience is different, but it looks like a cheap Chinese knock off product at a glance. Not to mention the SD card malfunctions kept me away and the inital issues at launch on top of that. That said i do know that Asus has been really good with updates for the Ally's software and i commend them for that and I'm glad people who have bought one have gotten a better experience. When the Ally X drops MAYBE I'll pick one up in the future just for the hetter software and battery life they're claiming. I got a fairly good deal on an open box LeGo that was upgraded with a 2TB SSD. Its been a mixed bag for me if I'm completely honest. There are things i love about this device. It really feels like a Switch on steroids. The detachable controllers and FPS mode are a neat gimmick that feels like something Nintendo would do. The high resolution and refresh rate is fantastic in games that can take advantage of it. Being able to play windows games the Deck simply cannot under any circumstances can. The two usb-c ports are great to have. But legion space sucks, updates are slow and it feels like a lot of newer games under preform from what they should. Batrery life is better than the Ally, but not by much. Also the lack of VRR is pretty sad. Overall i like this device and really want to see it do well. But it feels like Lenovo isn't putting their all into thos like Asus is planning to do with the Ally. For me the Steam Deck is king. I've had two, an LCD unit that i traded for an LE OLED model and thd Steam Deck has been a great device out of the box between both versions for me. Nearly everything I've tried running on the Deck has worked and even stuff that required workarounds was not that difficult to get working. The Deck might be the weaker device, but it's proven to be far more consistent.
Having more resolution is pointless imo as the z1 extreme works at maximal 1080p. Legion go should have resolution at 1080p anything more the chip just cant handle the stable 30fps to bump it to 60 using frame gen.
I've got a Steam Deck and a Legion, I bought the Legion after I sold my Ally, the only reason I sold the Ally was the size, it's just a little too small for me, after 30 mins it was uncomfortable and the longer I played the worse it got, if Asus make a new Ally that's slightly larger or has better ergonomics on the controller parts I'd jump straight back in, the single biggest thing I miss is the VRR on the Ally, the mouse control option with the detachable controller on the Legion is nice to have but if the choice is that or VRR I'd take the latter every time.
VRR and V-sync is not very useful with 120 hz screen let along 144hz. VRR would be more helpful with 60hz screens. I don't get the VRR hype. I wish there was a test of 9 144 hz screens vs one 144hz VRR screens and I will to bet the vast majority couldn't tell which one is VRR. 120 hz is fast enough you can use the software to add a black screen between each frame running 60 fps. Your visual cortex will blend in the black screen with the frame where you won't see the black screen. ( it will lower the brightest of the screen) The exact same reason you don't need v-sync as a tear screen will blend in with the next non-torn screen. This is the whole reason pc monitors jumped to 120 hz and 144 hz the begin with.
This. I have the Ally and love it, but can be difficult to play some of the games I like to to play due to screen size, however the Legion Go, is just too large IMO. Wish the screen was just a little bigger. Battery life on both suck but what do you expect running this hardware and windows. Hell my IPhone drains quick when playing some IOS games that aren’t nearly as demanding.
@@tirion7180 Tbh the extra size on the Legion screen is nice but ultimately it came down to comfort, my hands are just a bit too big for the Ally, for me the Deck is the sweet spot, the Legion feels good too, I'm just hoping the next Asus handheld is a bit bigger where you grip the unit, I'll definitely go back if it is.
The Asus Rog Ally is an excellent machine in almost all aspects, but the micro SD slot problem is still a serious issue that has not been solved yet. I bought the Rog Ally in July last year, and I have already had to send the machine twice to the technical support due to flaws with the micro SD slot. Placing the SD slot near the ventilation system was a huge error from Asus with no solution. Many people have just given up on this issue and opted for chaging the SSD for a bigger one to extend the storage.
the one thing I will say about the Z1 non extreme, is that I don't think it has heating issues with the SD cards getting fried since the processor isn't as good. I had a regular z1 for a couple weeks before trading it for an extreme and after seeing how hot the Extreme got and frying my cards, I realized this
The Go is the best right now, But If you already have a Steam deck it's not worth upgrading just yet. The deck does 90% or more of what these other devices do at half the price. Im waiting to see the next generation, when the 8000 or 9000 series exists. I also might Switch from a handheld PC to a gaming PC tablet like minisforum v3.
I'm a proponent of the Ally, however theres something we overlook about the LL-Go, and that's External GPU support. Either device can be docked and turned into a desktop, but ASUS's proprietary XG-Mobile port makes it very expensive to achieve better performance when docked compared to the LL-Go's USB-4 eGPU support.
You’re right I didn’t neglect to mention the external GPU support for both these devices and if I had my point would’ve sounded a lot similar to what you’re saying the fact that the ROG ally doesn’t support usb 4 is massive downside for people who want to use this as a desktop replacement when they’re at home and when they’re in the boat, use it as a mobile gaming device because of how expensive is proprietary XG mobile port is in a future revision of ally we could see it come with usb 4 or a occulink port would be also kind of cool
If you find a good deal then it's not that terrible. I use the 2021 XG Mobile at home and 2022 XG Mobile on the go with the ROG Ally and I bought both during holiday discounts.
what i've been doing sometimes now is just using a cheapo usb-c to usb adapter with a tiny cheap sd card reader when I want to use an SD card. Kind of annoying but better than frying more cards or RMAing the unit for them not to fix the underlying issue
@@seitostockmanTurn off the cpu boost and adjust the fan curve by turning them up after they hit 60 degrees. My ally wont go beyond 80 playing bg3 which is very demanding.
@@seitostockman The stock fancurves sucks imo. I made a custom 20w profile & set the fan to be at 100% once it reach 70c. I wouldn't be surprise if your unit reached high temps even on 15w due to how bad the fan curves are.
There is such thing as hibernate you can hibernate mid game and get back right into it. You are just a valve fanboy. Windows is much better at least you can it other than gaming.
@@jackykwan2580 Yep, stock power button with turn off the Ally if it's on but you can change that in windows settings. All you have to do is open the command center, press the power button on the screen then choose hybernate. You don't even need to get out of the console (same goes for pretty much all useful settings).
Why fan boys are all over enjoy what u got I used to have a steam great machine but doesn’t have the power to run AAA at 60fps only old AAA in the other hand the asus rog ally and legion go run all games smoothly I gave teenager soon the legion to big and bulk and heavy I prefer my ally extreme and if I need play games on oled screen I just dock it let’s leave the kids play with switch and steam decks let’s the big dogs fight the asus and go
The deck is far from perfect. It has more refined software than the others, but the lack of APU graphical power for more demanding games and the tinkering in desktop mode to get games to run decently or run at all are a deal breaker for a good number of people.
@@SuperHyphyOne I’m playing every console from Sega Genesis, to ps5. And all my AAA Next gen titles run smooth as butter! I love the symmetry of the analogs, I love the simplicity, SteamOS. Only time I really need to get technical is whenever I have to bypass certain titles that Linux has issues on running. However, other handhelds - despite their tremendous power. They feel more like laptops. The Ally design I think is pretty ugly, and the Legion Go doesn’t really seem like the ideal handheld for longevity. In comparison to other handhelds, I feel like it’s the top choice.
@@NoRestEffect and I could get the same or similar experience running Steam in Big Picture mode on my LeGo. And yes, you have to go into desktop mode for certain situations to get things working or for some other special task like getting non Steam games to work thus using it like a laptop or a dockable computer to an external monitor. People can rationalize and justify the SD's lack of power all they want, but in the end it doesn't run AAA games as good as other handhelds; smooth or not is irrelevant. That like playing a multiplatform game on the Nintendo Switch, then glossing over the fact that it pales in comparison to other platforms because of its lack of power. Why does the SD get a pass for that? It doesn't seems like the SD isn't the ideal handheld for longevity because it barely runs AAA games at decent speeds now if at all.
@@SuperHyphyOne I’m still playing PlayStation 5 games with better refresh rate than my PlayStation 5. Yeah the ps5 has better graphics but, these are just handhelds. The battery life is significantly better. I play better on it honestly. I have every game straight from Steam OS. Even the handheld itself, physically - looks better in my opinion. People think they need an overpowered device to enjoy a game. But it’s really not necessary for a handheld. Legion’s joycons won’t last long. And Ally ROG is just laptop with even a smaller and uglier display. Windows is awful in comparison to Linux and it’s a popular opinion to most gamers.
@@NoRestEffect now I know that you really don’t know what you’re talking about. I bought my Legion Go about a week after release. After a lot of use, my joycons are just fine. And how exactly is Windows awful in comparison to Linux according to gamers? According to Valve itself, what’s the Linux gamer market share again? Around 2% you say? Linux Is for people who want to act cool like they’re giving Microsoft the finger when in reality, they’re spending most of their time watching TH-cam tutorials and reading other forums because they’re totally lost on how to do anything. You are correct about not needing a super powerful device to enjoy anything, but it makes a difference on its longevity, which is something you argued about earlier. It makes a difference because it’s going perform better for a longer period of time. Another thing you are correct on is the battery life. The battery life on the steam deck is better, but even then it isn’t great. You’re still lugging around a charger or a power bank like everyone else using a handheld PC or a gaming laptop if you want anything more than a couple hours of gaming on demanding titles.
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Legion go - i plan to use it for work and music recording while traveling
I can't decide like my comment for legion go, comment ally for Rog ally . thanks
Rog Ally. Better performance. Armory Crate is better than Legion Space as well.
Legion Go. Period. Same performance, and Armory Crate is not needed (nor is the lousy Legion Space, for that matter - just install Playnite).
That big, beautiful screen just makes everything look so great and legible, it's a whole different experience than a 7-incher. Trust me on that one. The Go is the best purchase I made recently, I love this thing so much.
I went to best buy amd they had them both on display, without a second thought I got the legion go. it feels more premium and the built quality is far better than the ally. Navigating windows whit ally was far worst without the touch pad.
I bought an Ally recently at a great discount, I set it up and tried 1 game on it. Less than 24 hours later a bios update popped up in armory crate (bios 337) aaand it killed the triggers, and my right joystick. I honestly really liked it for the 30 minutes I used it while it was operational, but a big company like Asus to be killing their own products with updates just cannot be tolerated IMO. At this point I am seriously considering the currently A LOT more expensive Legion Go....
just recalibrate controller in windows
What do you mean it screw up your controls its just fine. This thing has a learning curve when its new it needs some tinkering. After you get used to it you will like it because its way more flexible than consoles.
Guys, thank you for the replies, but there is nothing to calibrate.During my research I only found 1 occasion where Asus provided any feedbackand it was that the latest mcu firmware fries the microcontroller for these components I listed in "rare" cases. We will see about the rare part soon, I guess...
I tired bios rollback, windows rollback and a ton of other stuff and nothing worked. There is 0 input detected.
@@dermendzhiev_96 return for repair or reinstall and recalibrate in windows after it works fine .
@@dermendzhiev_96 In armory crate you can calibrate the triggers, joystick, vibration and gyro 💀
How can you find what cause the issues but don't know you can calibrate everything is beyond me.
I had the go and returned it. Got a rog ally and much happier with it
heck nahhhhhh
I hate the sensitivity on the right stick on Rog ally cant properly aim due to stick drift returned it maybe the Hall effects on the go would be better for me
I have a OLED Deck and. LeGo. Don't have an Ally, I'm not a fan of the look of the device, maybe the in person experience is different, but it looks like a cheap Chinese knock off product at a glance. Not to mention the SD card malfunctions kept me away and the inital issues at launch on top of that. That said i do know that Asus has been really good with updates for the Ally's software and i commend them for that and I'm glad people who have bought one have gotten a better experience. When the Ally X drops MAYBE I'll pick one up in the future just for the hetter software and battery life they're claiming.
I got a fairly good deal on an open box LeGo that was upgraded with a 2TB SSD. Its been a mixed bag for me if I'm completely honest. There are things i love about this device. It really feels like a Switch on steroids. The detachable controllers and FPS mode are a neat gimmick that feels like something Nintendo would do. The high resolution and refresh rate is fantastic in games that can take advantage of it. Being able to play windows games the Deck simply cannot under any circumstances can. The two usb-c ports are great to have. But legion space sucks, updates are slow and it feels like a lot of newer games under preform from what they should. Batrery life is better than the Ally, but not by much. Also the lack of VRR is pretty sad. Overall i like this device and really want to see it do well. But it feels like Lenovo isn't putting their all into thos like Asus is planning to do with the Ally.
For me the Steam Deck is king. I've had two, an LCD unit that i traded for an LE OLED model and thd Steam Deck has been a great device out of the box between both versions for me. Nearly everything I've tried running on the Deck has worked and even stuff that required workarounds was not that difficult to get working. The Deck might be the weaker device, but it's proven to be far more consistent.
Having more resolution is pointless imo as the z1 extreme works at maximal 1080p. Legion go should have resolution at 1080p anything more the chip just cant handle the stable 30fps to bump it to 60 using frame gen.
You can set the resolution on the legion Go to 1080p, via the windows home screen, as well.
True enough if gaming was its only use, but streaming video in 1600p on the Legion Go is a thing of beauty.
I've got a Steam Deck and a Legion, I bought the Legion after I sold my Ally, the only reason I sold the Ally was the size, it's just a little too small for me, after 30 mins it was uncomfortable and the longer I played the worse it got, if Asus make a new Ally that's slightly larger or has better ergonomics on the controller parts I'd jump straight back in, the single biggest thing I miss is the VRR on the Ally, the mouse control option with the detachable controller on the Legion is nice to have but if the choice is that or VRR I'd take the latter every time.
VRR and V-sync is not very useful with 120 hz screen let along 144hz. VRR would be more helpful with 60hz screens. I don't get the VRR hype.
I wish there was a test of 9 144 hz screens vs one 144hz VRR screens and I will to bet the vast majority couldn't tell which one is VRR.
120 hz is fast enough you can use the software to add a black screen between each frame running 60 fps. Your visual cortex will blend in the black screen with the frame where you won't see the black screen. ( it will lower the brightest of the screen) The exact same reason you don't need v-sync as a tear screen will blend in with the next non-torn screen.
This is the whole reason pc monitors jumped to 120 hz and 144 hz the begin with.
This.
I have the Ally and love it, but can be difficult to play some of the games I like to to play due to screen size, however the Legion Go, is just too large IMO.
Wish the screen was just a little bigger.
Battery life on both suck but what do you expect running this hardware and windows. Hell my IPhone drains quick when playing some IOS games that aren’t nearly as demanding.
@SS-qu9nn I have same problem with screen size but maybe is lenovo to big..best handheld is somewhere in the middle I think
@@smidlee7747 That's true but you don't have to run it 120Hz, mine spent almost all of the time set at 60Hz.
@@tirion7180 Tbh the extra size on the Legion screen is nice but ultimately it came down to comfort, my hands are just a bit too big for the Ally, for me the Deck is the sweet spot, the Legion feels good too, I'm just hoping the next Asus handheld is a bit bigger where you grip the unit, I'll definitely go back if it is.
The Asus Rog Ally is an excellent machine in almost all aspects, but the micro SD slot problem is still a serious issue that has not been solved yet. I bought the Rog Ally in July last year, and I have already had to send the machine twice to the technical support due to flaws with the micro SD slot. Placing the SD slot near the ventilation system was a huge error from Asus with no solution. Many people have just given up on this issue and opted for chaging the SSD for a bigger one to extend the storage.
the one thing I will say about the Z1 non extreme, is that I don't think it has heating issues with the SD cards getting fried since the processor isn't as good. I had a regular z1 for a couple weeks before trading it for an extreme and after seeing how hot the Extreme got and frying my cards, I realized this
mine was rog ally z1 non extreme and i used 1tb sdcard in few days the reader got fried.
@@nomde0806 wow ok good to know, maybe I just didn't have mine long enough to fry any cards
The Go is the best right now, But If you already have a Steam deck it's not worth upgrading just yet. The deck does 90% or more of what these other devices do at half the price. Im waiting to see the next generation, when the 8000 or 9000 series exists. I also might Switch from a handheld PC to a gaming PC tablet like minisforum v3.
Rog ally released in my country is 350 euros... For z1 extreme..one
i would like a ally with 8 inch screen and bigger battery
Bought a open box rog ally extreme at Best Buy for $450 and going to keep it and buying a rog ally x at launch
I'm a proponent of the Ally, however theres something we overlook about the LL-Go, and that's External GPU support. Either device can be docked and turned into a desktop, but ASUS's proprietary XG-Mobile port makes it very expensive to achieve better performance when docked compared to the LL-Go's USB-4 eGPU support.
You’re right I didn’t neglect to mention the external GPU support for both these devices and if I had my point would’ve sounded a lot similar to what you’re saying the fact that the ROG ally doesn’t support usb 4 is massive downside for people who want to use this as a desktop replacement when they’re at home and when they’re in the boat, use it as a mobile gaming device because of how expensive is proprietary XG mobile port is in a future revision of ally we could see it come with usb 4 or a occulink port would be also kind of cool
If you find a good deal then it's not that terrible. I use the 2021 XG Mobile at home and 2022 XG Mobile on the go with the ROG Ally and I bought both during holiday discounts.
@celinek2690 any time the accessory costs more than the device, that's not a good deal.
what i've been doing sometimes now is just using a cheapo usb-c to usb adapter with a tiny cheap sd card reader when I want to use an SD card. Kind of annoying but better than frying more cards or RMAing the unit for them not to fix the underlying issue
If you don't push the Ally to 80+ Celsius (175f) all the time you will not burn your sd card/card reader.
@@BananaBlooD9517 I was careful not to use turbo mode (25 or 30 watt tdp). 2 cards still got fried on 15w and below
@@seitostockmanTurn off the cpu boost and adjust the fan curve by turning them up after they hit 60 degrees. My ally wont go beyond 80 playing bg3 which is very demanding.
@@jackykwan2580 ok thanks I'll try that
@@seitostockman The stock fancurves sucks imo. I made a custom 20w profile & set the fan to be at 100% once it reach 70c.
I wouldn't be surprise if your unit reached high temps even on 15w due to how bad the fan curves are.
Can i still have fun no matter wat i choose 😂😂😂
Unfortunately no I'm sorry
Legion Go any day
Thinking of getting one. Need something more than my SD
You lost me at performance over battery lol, its a handheld
Steam Deck OLED is best girl
Then legion go is the best boy😂😂
I absolutely lov gyro aiming with detached joy cons on Switch, so Legion Go was an easy Go.
My bigger gripe than the battery life was the Windows user experience coming from a Steam Deck. And the lack of instant sleep and resume.
Hybe5rnate & Sleep mode will put the pc to sleep and all you have to do is press the power button to get back on it.
There is such thing as hibernate you can hibernate mid game and get back right into it. You are just a valve fanboy. Windows is much better at least you can it other than gaming.
@@jackykwan2580 Yep, stock power button with turn off the Ally if it's on but you can change that in windows settings. All you have to do is open the command center, press the power button on the screen then choose hybernate. You don't even need to get out of the console (same goes for pretty much all useful settings).
I set all mine to hibernate so I can resume and play later. It is a great feature!
Why fan boys are all over enjoy what u got I used to have a steam great machine but doesn’t have the power to run AAA at 60fps only old AAA in the other hand the asus rog ally and legion go run all games smoothly I gave teenager soon the legion to big and bulk and heavy I prefer my ally extreme and if I need play games on oled screen I just dock it let’s leave the kids play with switch and steam decks let’s the big dogs fight the asus and go
I say the legion
Ally X?
I have a video talking about that tomorrow
Steam deck is trash!! Yea, it had an oled screen, but who cares
just get the MSI claw
Short answer: Steam Deck OLED. Practically the perfect handheld.
The deck is far from perfect. It has more refined software than the others, but the lack of APU graphical power for more demanding games and the tinkering in desktop mode to get games to run decently or run at all are a deal breaker for a good number of people.
@@SuperHyphyOne I’m playing every console from Sega Genesis, to ps5. And all my AAA Next gen titles run smooth as butter! I love the symmetry of the analogs, I love the simplicity, SteamOS. Only time I really need to get technical is whenever I have to bypass certain titles that Linux has issues on running. However, other handhelds - despite their tremendous power. They feel more like laptops. The Ally design I think is pretty ugly, and the Legion Go doesn’t really seem like the ideal handheld for longevity. In comparison to other handhelds, I feel like it’s the top choice.
@@NoRestEffect and I could get the same or similar experience running Steam in Big Picture mode on my LeGo. And yes, you have to go into desktop mode for certain situations to get things working or for some other special task like getting non Steam games to work thus using it like a laptop or a dockable computer to an external monitor. People can rationalize and justify the SD's lack of power all they want, but in the end it doesn't run AAA games as good as other handhelds; smooth or not is irrelevant. That like playing a multiplatform game on the Nintendo Switch, then glossing over the fact that it pales in comparison to other platforms because of its lack of power. Why does the SD get a pass for that? It doesn't seems like the SD isn't the ideal handheld for longevity because it barely runs AAA games at decent speeds now if at all.
@@SuperHyphyOne I’m still playing PlayStation 5 games with better refresh rate than my PlayStation 5. Yeah the ps5 has better graphics but, these are just handhelds. The battery life is significantly better. I play better on it honestly. I have every game straight from Steam OS. Even the handheld itself, physically - looks better in my opinion. People think they need an overpowered device to enjoy a game. But it’s really not necessary for a handheld. Legion’s joycons won’t last long. And Ally ROG is just laptop with even a smaller and uglier display. Windows is awful in comparison to Linux and it’s a popular opinion to most gamers.
@@NoRestEffect now I know that you really don’t know what you’re talking about. I bought my Legion Go about a week after release. After a lot of use, my joycons are just fine. And how exactly is Windows awful in comparison to Linux according to gamers? According to Valve itself, what’s the Linux gamer market share again? Around 2% you say? Linux Is for people who want to act cool like they’re giving Microsoft the finger when in reality, they’re spending most of their time watching TH-cam tutorials and reading other forums because they’re totally lost on how to do anything. You are correct about not needing a super powerful device to enjoy anything, but it makes a difference on its longevity, which is something you argued about earlier. It makes a difference because it’s going perform better for a longer period of time. Another thing you are correct on is the battery life. The battery life on the steam deck is better, but even then it isn’t great. You’re still lugging around a charger or a power bank like everyone else using a handheld PC or a gaming laptop if you want anything more than a couple hours of gaming on demanding titles.