MacBook Pro 14 & 16 M2: Long Term Review!

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  • @JustJoshTech
    @JustJoshTech  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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  • @mr.anirbangoswami
    @mr.anirbangoswami ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I love how honestly Josh mentioned he found out he wasted 200 dollars, this level of realism is only possible when you spend your hard earned money. Not so likely to happen on a review unit.
    I also think maybe DaVinci or Final Cut could have used those extra cores better but it's not very practical to jump ship when you're invested in an ecosystem of software already just to get rid of buyer's remorse. Very good video altogether. :) I was waiting for it for a long time

  • @Vixldn
    @Vixldn ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful when telling us which model to buy!!

  • @iali00
    @iali00 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that this guy talks about warm to the touch. Nothing is more annoying than a really hot computer making your hands sweat. I'll take slightly less power for quiet and cool computing.

  • @tkl0111
    @tkl0111 ปีที่แล้ว

    For those buying base model with 512GB, I think there's a comment mentioning that the SSD performance is really low because it doesn't benefit from dual ssd that the 1TB version offers. Something to be aware of, since in this video the 2TB model was purchased and the 512GB was not tested.

  • @bryans8656
    @bryans8656 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the comparisons. They remind me of the debate between the M1 and the M2 MacBook Air laptops since the older models, especially the M1 MBP 14, still offer so much for the money.

  • @neoone75
    @neoone75 ปีที่แล้ว

    Coming from windows ecosystem this Apple ecosystem is confusing. Lots of options that don't make any sense. Should I buy m1 max instead of m2 pro bc it's much cheaper?

  • @MrPerfundo
    @MrPerfundo ปีที่แล้ว +44

    This really, really helped me. Had a 14” M2 Max; it sounded even more ready to take off into space than the 2013 intel mac I was upgrading from. Because of you, saving a lot of money and switching to base model 14 with more storage.

    • @maxjames00077
      @maxjames00077 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You mean it gets hot? I thought these chips didn't get so hot

    • @MrPerfundo
      @MrPerfundo ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@maxjames00077 there are probably many professional tasks for which they’re designed not to get hot. But in gaming (even light gaming, when not optimized), they get volcano hot. There’s been too much rhetoric about them being magical in some way. It’s a bit luck of the draw which they are optimized for (heavy web browsing, content consumption, professions tasks I don’t do) and which they behave as though they’re an intel machine without integrated graphics or a heat sink (light gaming, even some supposedly native to apple silicon). Make no mistake, they get hot and can be easily pushed to last 90 minutes 100% to 0. No magic here.

    • @maxjames00077
      @maxjames00077 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrPerfundo oh wow thanks. Guess I've been getting the wrong image of all the people praising them so much that a comment like this actually helps realizing me again that its not a flawless machine either. Ty

    • @jeansienkin
      @jeansienkin ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@maxjames00077 Hey never take a Mac for gaming! PCs are better for this kind of stuff and much cheaper.

    • @maxjames00077
      @maxjames00077 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeansienkin thanks ill buy a 13th gen intel then

  • @utubekullanicisi
    @utubekullanicisi ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I think what I mostly got from other reviewers about the speaker quality difference this year is they're more balanced in terms of their EQ and quieter. To me that's better, not worse, but I'm also hoping the next design generation of the MBPs gain back their loudness without downgrading the sound quality.

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I noticed zero difference in EQ or volume btw on my units

    • @utubekullanicisi
      @utubekullanicisi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustJoshTech Interesting, I've seen both Alex from ShortCircuit and Max Tech describe this. The differences are either really subtle or unit-to-unit differences that may or may not have existed for the previous gen MBPs.

    • @RedBeardedRabbit
      @RedBeardedRabbit ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JustJoshTech Do you have a calibrated microphone? There are a couple of good ones for about $100, you could measure frequency response with Room EQ Wizard if you're familiar with it.

    • @gedaliap
      @gedaliap ปีที่แล้ว

      Speakers are quieter than the 2013, but much better, balanced, less tinny, nicer sound, not gonna use it as a boombox, but totally reasonable, volume levels for sitting at it

  • @elliptt
    @elliptt ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have been in need of a new laptop since about September - my old Dell has been consistently breaking down since then. It was during my painstaking process of trying to find the best buy for my use case as a student that I encountered your channel. I ultimately decided I wanted a Mac, but I had been waiting for this video to come out because of how much I have come to trust your judgment regarding what the best option for a use case similar to mine might be. I now feel confident in finally buying the 14" M2 Pro base model. Thank you, Josh, for your consistent trustworthiness and sage advice.

  • @smokehead5318
    @smokehead5318 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    OMG ! That was the BEST review from all (hundreds) that I have been watching for the last 3 weeks. You just compared that I couldn't find anywhere else M2 14 10c vs 12c, and the results are indeed interesting. I wanted to go 14" 12c upgrade, but right now I am not so sure because of that heating issue and battery, its less efficient, and I do not even know if I would use that additional 2 core performance anyway. But I have a question anyway, is that make sense to upgrade base m2 14" to 1TB(to improve SWAP speed, and storage ofc) and 32GB RAM(sacrificing 12c/19c version), I will use it for programming, some virtualization maybe, a lot of chrome tabs, etc. I know macOs RAM management is probably better than windows but anyway I am not sure if 16GB RAM will be enough? I had MBP Pro 16 inch Intel 2019 one time, that was super loud, without useful ports etc ,and sold it just before M1 came in, I wasn't super happy with macOs, but wanted to try one again with an improved design in smaller chassis. Thanks, BEST review on YT.

    • @Skyhwkx
      @Skyhwkx ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here! I was thinking if it’s worth upgrading the SSD Storage to 1TB with the M2 pro MacBook Pro base model (16GB RAM - 10CPU - 16GPU) to improve “Swapping speeds”?

    • @smokehead5318
      @smokehead5318 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ahmed so what was Your decision?

    • @suzukitaka4470
      @suzukitaka4470 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@smokehead5318 I would like to know if this upgrade will make sense!

  • @romeDCfc
    @romeDCfc ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks so much for doing this, as it's super helpful. I've been trying to decide between M2 Pro variants in a 14". No other reviewers specifically mentioned the higher temp with more cores. That and the battery life, helped me decide to go for the base Pro.

  • @hellboy4642
    @hellboy4642 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congratulations brother on 200000 subscribers soon . You should make review on how apple is squeezing money from customers in the name of future proofing. 2extra cores not worth . And can give me one laptop pretty please 😍😉. Need it for my studies. Can't sell kidney.

  • @cameronbosch1213
    @cameronbosch1213 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't agree with your complaints on the 14 inch MacBook Pros. They're smaller, so of course they're going to run warmer and hotter. And as much as I hate to say it, is there a laptop that can come close to the M1/M2 Pro 14 inch MacBook Pros in that form factor? Apart from Asus with their upcoming ROG Zephyrus G14, I don't think so.

  • @S3XYEV
    @S3XYEV ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I watched this video, as you suggested it in your latest one. The 16" M1 MBP is just a beast! I knew I wasn't going to need to upgrade to the M2. Sure, some minor improvements, but nothing I would notice. The screen, speakers, and track pad are already best in class. Everything I do on it runs snappy and fast, compared to other machines (Win/PCs) I've owned. You may notice a slight (seconds) difference with them side-by-side, but you won't if just have the M1 MBP in front of you. It's just going to be super quick and rock-solid. Incredible battery life. If you have an M1 MBP, there's no need to upgrade - enjoy it for years folks! ....If you are upgrading from a Windows PC laptop, save $500 to $1000, and get an M1 MBP. There's some GREAT deals out there now.

    • @nakiradams
      @nakiradams ปีที่แล้ว

      Is your computer a Macbook Pro with m1 or m1 pro processor?

  • @_Frank_23
    @_Frank_23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mean...we're not talking about smartphones...once you created a monster macbook the year before, you can't expect a mac that's as fast as speed of light, we'll never reach that speed. It's just a new model (which I bought coming from a 2016 macbook pro) that's a monster in speed like the m1 pro. Apple already made a revolution with the m1 pro, you can't expect revolutions every single year now

  • @frostgodx
    @frostgodx ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Got a 14” 38-core hot mess 😂. Exchanged for 16” they shouldn’t even offer the max in the 14”

  • @teh_hunterer
    @teh_hunterer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seems like with these laptops, where it's the M1 Pro or M2 Pro, the base model is the one to go for. Maybe an upgrade to 1TB for the SSD, with the double benefit of getting more space and more speed.

  • @justinyadao744
    @justinyadao744 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You are the most comprehensive tester. Subbed. I feel like you are the only one who spent the time to differentiate the 12 core and the binned 10 core m2 pro on the 14 inch. i was eyeing at the portable m2 pro 12 core 14 inch but i was afraid of the heat and fan noise because i'm traumatized of the decade long experience of windows laptop fans gasping for air when i am at a library or in class.

    • @primitivepatterns
      @primitivepatterns ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you go with a 10 core? How are you liking it if so?

    • @flighted2513
      @flighted2513 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hate how people in the apple world referred to "binned" meaning the exact opposite as the rest of the computing world. Binned in the PC world and custom parts usually refers to higher quality silicon not lower.

  • @CO8848_2
    @CO8848_2 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    An average person is perfectly fine with the MBA, these upgrades are completely unnecessary, and don't play games on the macbook, it's that simple.

    • @User-cb4jm
      @User-cb4jm ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It’s no different to any other laptop - is getting a new laptop worth it because it’s gone from Intel 12th gen to 13th gen - obviously not! Yes the performance upgrades are definitely important year on year to keep the value proposition from slipping and to keep up with competing devices but I think it’s obvious at this point that the target audience for this isn’t existing M1 Pro/Max devices but for anyone who held out when those devices came out and are only upgrading now from a older Intel Mac/Windows device.

    • @CO8848_2
      @CO8848_2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@User-cb4jm Yeah, from intel to apple silicon is definitely a worthy upgrade.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The problem is by the time you upgrade the storage to 512 GB and the RAM to 16 GB, you are so close to the M1 Pro MacBook Pros and even the M2 Pro MacBook Pros, that you might as well go for them.

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Some of us *make* games on a macbook ;)

    • @CO8848_2
      @CO8848_2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GenMoviesOfficial LOL, professional responsibilities? You video editors take yourself too seriously. You guys are a dume a dozen.

  • @nicksophinos4611
    @nicksophinos4611 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a M1 and M2 14" with the max chips as well. I really can't tell the difference between the two of them. I don't regret the purchase, since it's part of my job to have the latest and greatest, and I'm sure there is a difference, but don't notice the difference.

    • @curtisimo81
      @curtisimo81 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is the M2 14 with heat?

    • @nicksophinos4611
      @nicksophinos4611 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@curtisimo81 I have not noticed any difference there either. I am a mobile software developer, compiling for iOS, and often simultaneously will be in a Zoom meeting.

    • @vaskodikov6869
      @vaskodikov6869 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicksophinos4611 did you notice any problems with the heat in general and noisy fans? Also, how is your battery life on average ? Thank you for the response

    • @nicksophinos4611
      @nicksophinos4611 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vaskodikov6869 For my developer usage, neither one every gets hot enough to run the fans. One time I was outside with the sun beating down on it, but that's to be expected.

    • @nicksophinos4611
      @nicksophinos4611 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vaskodikov6869 Oh, and battery life is great. I don't measure it, but it is certainly an improvement over the intel models.

  • @FearlessFrog
    @FearlessFrog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Hello Hello from Türkiye :) Thank you for the video. It really helped me to choose my next macbook pro m2 pro. But one question I do still have. Should I chose 16 gig or 32 gig of ram? I should consider that I will use this machine for 5-6 years. Also my daily routines like everyone do. Maybe in the future I will do some rendering. Not as a daily routine. Can you please help me to take a decision ?

  • @circlebamboo10000
    @circlebamboo10000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is very helpful! If I need to do video production work, handling huge files, 8k files, design work including animation. My laptop is 8 years old so I do want to upgrade. Will a 14inch M2 pro enough? And which config? Thanks

  • @jeffarose
    @jeffarose ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know what he is talking about. My M2 Max 16"MacBook Pro is screaming fast. I don't know if he is using the M2 Max with the 38 core GPU, but it makes the best PC benchmarks look sad for games that are compiled for Apple Silicon.

  • @scott-richardson
    @scott-richardson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Josh, I'm looking to replace my 27" iMac 10 core i9 64GB 1TB Radeon Pro 5700XT workstation with the 14" M2 Max 38 GPU core model. I already know what you're going to say but I have been conversing with folks on Macrumors who own said model and it's fine. It will be used mostly plugged in and docked to a Studio Display anyway. But I don't want to go 16" because it's just not as portable for when I actually do use it unplugged. I DO have an M2 Air with 24GB RAM which I will keep as my everyday machine also. What do you think?

  • @BilalAr
    @BilalAr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Josh thank you for the great video. Do you recommend upgrading the Ram to 32 Gb on the basic M2 pro chip for the 14"?

  • @andy5434
    @andy5434 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is 32gb ram necessary if on my current laptop I’m only using 12-13gb out of 16gb? The ram upgrades for macs are expensive.

  • @johndarylaocampo515
    @johndarylaocampo515 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANK YOU so much for this video. I was torn between the 14inch upgraded 12 core and 16inch 12 core. Your findings with the upgraded CPU struggling in the smaller 14inch frame really helped in advising which computer to get!

  • @91lovemusic
    @91lovemusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I barely play games on iPhone and i think there’s no problem with MacBook.
    Btw i love how you explained one by one details and easy to understand.

  • @GAI3E_
    @GAI3E_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your videos. i cant fincially support but Ilike, comment and share ur vids all the time.

  • @samhendersonn
    @samhendersonn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ordered my M2Pro with base configuration, 16GB RAM and 10 core cpu and 16 gpu is more than enough for me although I did bumped the storage to 1TB cause I need it and I’m glad with my purchase.
    PS: I’m upgrading from late 2016 MBP, So it’s worth it in my case.

    • @bella6697
      @bella6697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was considering getting the exact same MBP with these configurations. Are you satisfied with it?

  • @JoATTech
    @JoATTech ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only valid in US. In EU prices of M1 based MBP are insane :(.

  • @hellboy4642
    @hellboy4642 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't afford to sell my kidney.both kidney. Can you give me one . pretty please.

  • @tarekabdel-naby9709
    @tarekabdel-naby9709 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    which is better for video editing and running parallels in 16 inch?:
    m1 max 32gb OR m2 pro 16gb

  • @AlgyTRG
    @AlgyTRG ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Josh, thx for the video. I know you are a developer, or at least you were. Can you include in future videos some comparison: open a big project with an IDE, compiling times, deploying times, etc ? ... Anyway, I went from a 16'' i9 to a 14'' M1 Pro and was night and day. Not gonna upgrade anytime soon.

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I used to do this, but my projects all opened within a second or two of each other. It was immaterial tbh

    • @mayconmfl
      @mayconmfl ปีที่แล้ว

      What about a thermal issues in your case with 14" M1 Pro?

  • @TWSmith42
    @TWSmith42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My late 2013 MBP with 8 GB RAM is still an excellent road warrior and runs Windows 10 fine in a VM. (Exporting video takes a little while, so make plans.) Great reviews.

  • @miloutinou
    @miloutinou ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi incredible video, do you think it worth taking the 32 go ram as the only upgrade on the 14inch ?

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What are you doing on the laptop?

    • @miloutinou
      @miloutinou ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JustJoshTech a lot of programming, photo editing a lot of tab and also I need to emulate windows a lot!

  • @richarddcrossley
    @richarddcrossley ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for all your work. Validated I’m happy with M1 Pro 10core 16GB 1TB 14 inch and M1 Max 32GB 1TB 16 inch. One is perfect blend of power and portability and the other is my desktop replacement I mainly used docked. Grabbed both on decent sales last year too as in the uk m2 had big price increases due to dollar to pound. Glad I cancelled my full spec M1 Max 14 inch preorder as well due to all your testing and others than showed thermal throttling and bad battery life on that model.

  • @TheBeardedLibertarian
    @TheBeardedLibertarian ปีที่แล้ว +7

    went from a 14" M1 16gb to a 16" M2 Max 32 gb, the difference amazes me, I love the screen and the performance, nice trade-in for the old one (1000 bucks)

    • @NOT_A_TOP_FAN
      @NOT_A_TOP_FAN ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Should have just bought the correct one in the first place with upgraded RAM, instead of wasting money “upgrading” within a year. Apple is preying off people like you.

    • @one007guy
      @one007guy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NOT_A_TOP_FAN I agree. Apple gives $460 for a fully specked out 2019 i9 Macbook Pro. That to me is crazy. Probably what it cost to produce, but still...wow!

  • @bartiz12
    @bartiz12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great! Thank you Josh for that video!
    I am considering getting rid of my problematic Asus G14 (especially since I barely use the RTX gpu) and finally switching to MacOS, especially with these ARM Macbooks. Your video is the greatest summary of what to get, since I am not following tech trends, like I used to. The M1, either with 14 or 16 inch screen, seem like the best way to go, at least depending on pricing... and that M2 seems more of an update, rather than generational jump here.

    • @RACAPE
      @RACAPE ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have an Asus G14 from 2020 and I tried to sell it but without luck. Now I’m keeping it for casual gaming(perfect for the new Hogwarts legacy game) and I also bought a MacBook and I can tell you that the MacBook is just something else. You will not regret it.

    • @User-cb4jm
      @User-cb4jm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It shouldn’t surprise anyone the M2 is simply a generational jump. The major display/chassis overhaul is done and dusted, it’s just going to be processor updates to keep it competitive. No different to older Intel Macs or Dell XPS devices that kept the same design from 2016-20 and only had spec bumps between then. If you skipped the M1 Pro and waited this long then this is the reward where you can pay the same amount and get a slightly faster device with slightly better battery.

    • @OurFantasyLife
      @OurFantasyLife ปีที่แล้ว

      That's funny, I have the G15 and I use it primarily for gaming, but for any "serious" work I always reach for my MacBook or my iPad.

    • @itowilltube
      @itowilltube ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OurFantasyLife which iPad do you suggest ?

    • @mightyjerry014
      @mightyjerry014 ปีที่แล้ว

      We're in the same boat. I also have a 2021 g14 and realized that I barely used the dedicated GPU for any intensive app or program that's why I am trying to get rid of it before diving to the world of MacOS. Go for the refurb M1 14", I feel like that's the most bang for the buck variant available out there.

  • @manonthemoon4544
    @manonthemoon4544 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome review. This really help me think logically about which Apple Mac to purchase.

  • @mejlgaardbliddal
    @mejlgaardbliddal ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I went for a discounted 16 inch M1 Pro in October for the exact reasons you mentioned as sound buying decisions in this Video. Yes I would have liked 32GB just to be on the safe side. But I would have had to buy a discounted Max model instead as the I would have had to pay retail price + the upgrade fee had I added another 16GB to the M1 Pro thus bringing it in line with the price of a discounted M1 Max model. Knowing full well that my m1 Air was fast enough for the video editing I am doing. I only went for the 16 inch due to the screen quality and the screensize with the extended battery life compared to the max model as an added bonus. As I am using my M1 Air while traveling and my M1 Pro at home I am really happy with my buying decision and are not planing on upgrading my computer hardware for a foreseeable future. My phone however might be upgraded after the release of the next iPhone.

  • @KevinMillard68
    @KevinMillard68 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is a prim example why you allow all the rich kids to buy this stuff before you do then again some of them make them out to be great then 3 months later then we hear the this was my worst mistake dont buy it videos. if you want your mac to perform you have ot tun off all the energy savings crap then youll see what they can really do or not do so back testing for you i think..

  • @lollateng191
    @lollateng191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    liked for the League of legend! XD

  • @Shingetsu404
    @Shingetsu404 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If i had to choose an m1 max refurbished or m2 pro . Which you do you recommend for AE? I think imma grab the 16 inch model for better coolimg

  • @RobustArid379
    @RobustArid379 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always buy the top of the line. People don’t look down at you

  • @jcam783
    @jcam783 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow ! Now that's a clear and concise comparison . I am a hobbyist photographer who is just starting to experiment with Short Videos/Films . Thank you for taking the time to make and share this post . I have a much better idea on which one to order after this . I believe the base 14" or 16" model will be just fine in my case . I can always buy a 1TB external SSD . Thanks again Josh !

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad I could help

    • @Javarrol
      @Javarrol ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m in the class as you. Using the 13 inch mbp love it but I need more screen space. Just ordered the 16 inch

  • @faizivejdani2608
    @faizivejdani2608 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apple has too many cpu/gpu upgrade options on their 14 & 16 inch macbook pros. Thank you for taking the time to provide your concise recommendations. I would love to see a comparison of the M1/M2/M2Pro mac minis. Thank you!

  • @ericrojas8681
    @ericrojas8681 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good review, gave a real insight about something that I was always wondering about the extra cores being of real value for my use case (Lightroom and Photoshop), I am considering the M2 over the M1 (14") just for the fact that you demonstrated that M2 is a bit faster at starting apps , price differential is not that much

  • @danhtruong2629
    @danhtruong2629 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much! You saved people lots of money

  • @funicats
    @funicats ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just for saying that this makes your mother proud, I’m subscribing.😊

  • @LuckeGabriel
    @LuckeGabriel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's such a lot of research to figure out which one to buy. Your videos have helped tremendously! Thank you.

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm glad they have helped

  • @sayan_panda
    @sayan_panda ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really appreciate your honest and thorough review. You are probably the best laptop reviewer on TH-cam.

  • @Ipadairpro8636
    @Ipadairpro8636 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS VIDEO FOR A WEEK!!!! I originally bought 14 inch m2 12 core CPU version, that laptop gets hot, so I had to return it. I think if we want to go with the 14 inch, honestly the base model is the best option. If any ones wants a higher configuration, they should just buy the 16 inch one for better battery and thermal performance. THIS IS SUCH A INFORMATIONAL VIDEO!

    • @royaltykidstv
      @royaltykidstv ปีที่แล้ว

      Is the 14inch 16gb good?

    • @Ipadairpro8636
      @Ipadairpro8636 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@royaltykidstv I think base model came with 16 gb and yes it does not feel warm.

    • @royaltykidstv
      @royaltykidstv ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ipadairpro8636 what is base model? I want to get the 16GB with 1TB, this would be the model that doesn’t get hot right?

    • @Ipadairpro8636
      @Ipadairpro8636 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@royaltykidstv I am not a tech expert. This is based on my experience using some of the devices. if you get the 10-Core CPU
      16-Core GPU
      16GB Unified Memory with 1TB storage (the device will not get hot. the version that does get hot is the 14 inch with 12 core cpu and 19 core gpu. If you want more cpu or gpu performance and care about the labtop getting warm, I recommended the 16 inch 1TB model :)

    • @royaltykidstv
      @royaltykidstv ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ipadairpro8636 so Best Buy gives me on M2 Pro these options: 16 Core with 16RAM and 512GB, and 19 Core with 1TB on 16RAM.
      When you say it gets hot is that bad?

  • @robdogs4743
    @robdogs4743 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most professional laptop reviewer on the platform

  • @ameliabuns4058
    @ameliabuns4058 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm the question for me is tho, 16gb or 32gb? 512gb or 1tb?

  • @markchadbourne8049
    @markchadbourne8049 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, are you saying there's no significant gain having 32gb over 16gb on the 14 inch m2 Macbook pro?

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am saying, I would absolutely not upgrade unless you can prove you need the extra RAM. In my use case, my assumption was wrong. I didn't need it and wasted alot of money. ALOT

    • @markchadbourne8049
      @markchadbourne8049 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JustJoshTech Thanks for your advice.

  • @imuser007
    @imuser007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Josh, it's incredibly good video

  • @brandonleefilms-weddings
    @brandonleefilms-weddings ปีที่แล้ว

    It's interesting that you say that not more than 16GB of Ram is needed to run Premier Pro [I have the MBP M2 Max 16" 64GB Ram 1TB SSD] because I see my activity monitor as high as 40GB Ram (even up to 50GB) utilized; with a color grade, warp stabilizer, audio correction, ect [with a wedding ceremony, full speeches, toast, and a highlight film (on one timeline - basically close to 2hrs long) on my machine... Love this laptop, eats through everything. Great video btw 👌 and thank you for the review 👍
    Came from a 3yr old XPS 15, but I don't think I would spend the money if I had an M1 Max either (just so we're clear 😅)

  • @tomassantos4252
    @tomassantos4252 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didnt understand why it doesn't use all cores. And it's gonna be forever like this or do you believe on future Mac OS updates will solve this ?

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's due to the software running not MacOS. Premier Pro needs to optimize

  • @robtheflow
    @robtheflow ปีที่แล้ว

    okay I am using "1.4 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5" for 2.7k video editing, long travel videos with bunch of speed rumps and more, and it sucks, the playback is choppy, cant work and feel annoyed, that when I bought that laptop people were doing reviews and said its best laptop for 4k editing, this laptop cant deal with 1080 footage with speed ramps and stuff. SO okay my girlfriend got the new "2022 air m2", basic model, looking at all those youtube feedbacks, looks like its a small beast that can handle 4k! wow I go to premier pro, load bunch of videos from Maldives, and wow, it actually can handle 2.7k and..... minutes later, I start colour grading, speed rumps and guess what, it sucks, its choppy, cant work like this. so now I am in Bangkok, and M2 pro 14 inch here after discounts is 1.5k GBP, and I am thinking to get one, but does ANYONE know will my footage will be choppy with pro editing ? I am still doing 2.7k as most laptops cant deal 4k editing, but does anyone really tried, and tell me honest opinion?

  • @saturnotaku
    @saturnotaku ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The one compelling feature of the M2 Pro for my usage is its support for HDMI 2.1 as I have a high refresh 4K monitor for my workstation.

    • @DarkAngel56666
      @DarkAngel56666 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Note that you can connect to most high refresh screens using the USB/Thunderbolt ports on the previous gen. I'm currently rocking a 144hz 34' 3440x1440 pixels screen with a USB C cable.

    • @deepee1544
      @deepee1544 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkAngel56666 Hi, does this also work on a Macbook Air?

    • @DarkAngel56666
      @DarkAngel56666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deepee1544 Yes it does :)

    • @deepee1544
      @deepee1544 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkAngel56666 Ok, thank you!

  • @jacksp8de
    @jacksp8de ปีที่แล้ว

    Editors Keep the M1 Pro and switch from Premiere to Final Cut or Davinci Resolve both are much faster

  • @do9138
    @do9138 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought one of these pieces of garbage Friday. I am returning it. No one at Apple Care can even tell me what cables I need to TX data from my Time Machine. They don't even know the configuration of the keyboard. We wondered what would happen when Jobs died. Now we know. Apple stopped "wasting time" training employees. I've been a loyal customer since 1991 and own everything Apple makes. It only takes one day to ruin a 30-year relationship. But what do corporations care? Consumers mean NOTHING to them. 😡

  • @rafaelperez9652
    @rafaelperez9652 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful, very thorough review Josh!! 👍😁

  • @tayfununver3330
    @tayfununver3330 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an old Acer Aspire and using it with WSL to become familiar with linux terminal. Sometimes the fans are very loud. I would like learn in the library but i dont want disturb anybody. Do you have some suggestions for a Windows laptop where the fans are not spinning so fast and get so loud?

  • @Guironey
    @Guironey ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thxxx for thissss

  • @codenamegrs9278
    @codenamegrs9278 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buying a macbook ever since 2016 means you consent to the Soldered SSDs and also the fact that they are overpriced by 3x-4x . ( Example : @Apple 2TB of soldered ssd costs 800$; at the same time you can go on Amazon and buy a 2TB SSD like Samsung 980PRO / Sabrent / Seagate Firecuda 530 , Kingston etc for 200$. What are you people doing? :( Oppose Apple's evil please :)

  • @តុលទិត្យវិទូ
    @តុលទិត្យវិទូ ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone help me decide of should I wait for the new laptop rtx40 series to come that's around 1499$ or should I just buy the Zephyrus G15 at 1499$ which it got 2K 165Hz Ryzen 9 5900HS RTX3080 1TB M.2 SSD and 16GB DDR4. Can anyone give me an idea on this please help since I never used an expensive 500$+ laptop before.

  • @rjunmehta
    @rjunmehta ปีที่แล้ว

    Im planning to use a vm (parallels) on my 14" macbook pro (im getting the base cpu, 32gb and 1tb spec) how much will my battery life suffer for intensive and casual softwares on the windows os ran on the macbook. and thank god i was finally able to find someone on yt with the 32gb versions with the m2pro. Great review!!

  • @NOT_A_TOP_FAN
    @NOT_A_TOP_FAN ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol why on earth would you upgrade within a year cycle??? People that even think about doing this is WILD. You’re falling into Apple marketing. Think about it - if you buy a medium to high end device, why on earth would Apple blow it out of the water in the very next cycle? It would make buying high end utterly useless and people would stop doing it. I’m a professional in the creative industry who bought the 10 core model with 32gb of ram. I never have issues and it’s NEVER slow. People just need to buy correctly thr first time and learn some financial discipline when new models roll out.

  • @ariels.3378
    @ariels.3378 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 2020 M1 Pro 13 aND 2021 m1 Air are still killing it...Im staying put until one of them conks out...then I'll upgrade. But the M1 chip changed everything best computer experience I've ever had. No comparison. M2 seems like a marketing ploy to get more money.

  • @AyoHues
    @AyoHues ปีที่แล้ว

    The M2 MBP upgrade is as underwhelming as the iPhone 14 was. Ignore. Wait for 3nm chip generation for the laptops and USB-C & the form factor changes etc in the iPhone 15. And start saving now. Big price bumps likely.

  • @joaoroman9583
    @joaoroman9583 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best time ever to buy the M1 Pro machines. Just bought a NEW 16 inch base model M1 Pro for 1797€. Here in Europe the base model 16 inch m2 pro is 3099€. Thats a 1300€ difference.

  • @TheHermit72
    @TheHermit72 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm thinking on getting one with long term use as my number one priority and a good battery as my second. I like the m1 14 more but i guess being it a 2021 model i don't how how many years of support can i get from Apple. Should i get the m2 base model? i'll be using it for coding and study.

  • @KankukanAiki
    @KankukanAiki ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Really. Just subscribed

  • @Siuyendiana
    @Siuyendiana ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Josh: I am planning to buy a new MacBook. Should I choose the MacBook Air M3 or MacBook Pro (M3 Pro or M3 Max). These are new models coming next: Rumors.
    Thank you.

  • @cameronbosch1213
    @cameronbosch1213 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish more OEMs would have used AMD Ryzen this year, because if you think the MacBooks have bad battery life, oh boy, do you not know Intel 12th/13th gen...

  • @dennistdk
    @dennistdk ปีที่แล้ว

    You are forgetting one reason for buying the 14" M2 Max (besides needing the extra cores) - and that is using 3-4 external monitors (the M2 Pro only supports 2 external screens). I can see many buying it - not for the extra power, but for the amount of external display support.

  • @Daonhon
    @Daonhon ปีที่แล้ว

    I am in search for a new mac because my 512GB 8GB Macbook Air m2 is so limited and this review is one of the best so far. It answered my questions on battery life and performance plus more. Good job, Josh.

  • @mukhtar__
    @mukhtar__ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Josh upload day = good day

  • @matthewm4336
    @matthewm4336 ปีที่แล้ว

    Upgraded from the 2015 MBP to the 16 inch M2 and couldnt be happier. Not wortht he upgrade from an Apple silicon M1 to M2, though

  • @chillvibes_6872
    @chillvibes_6872 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here’s an advice for everyone. If you really want to upgrade, upgrade after 2-3 models from uour old one. Dont upgrade when the next model comes out, there’s always not much difference.

  • @shaun1900
    @shaun1900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As mentioned the 14" M1 is on sale and around $700.00 cheaper than the M2 here in Australia. A great deal for anybody.

  • @OmniOne
    @OmniOne ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a large difference between The M2 Pro and M2 Max chips as far as how many external monitors are supported. Seems to be a big thing to completely skip over.

  • @ARG
    @ARG ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a macbook air m1 base spec and i use it mainly for final cut pro editing you tube videos, is it worth getting base model macbook pro 14" m2 pro ? i only have 8gb ram in mine and 256gb fills it quick with 4k footage ?

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  ปีที่แล้ว

      The 14inch m2 pro is a sizeable step up. I would do it

    • @ARG
      @ARG ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustJoshTech thank you, just pulled the trigger, get it tomorrow 👍🏼

  • @CaseyFleetMedia
    @CaseyFleetMedia ปีที่แล้ว

    Your first mistake was thinking you need 32gb ram to video edit… You can edit all day everyday with 16gb… Heck… Many are doing it with the 8gm models!

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is true. Depends on what you are doing though and how happy you are to wait (if you have large projects)

    • @CaseyFleetMedia
      @CaseyFleetMedia ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustJoshTech that’s very true bro… The waiting time could be the difference especially when it comes to exports… I have the M1 Mac mini and I have done tons of video editing on it with just 8 GB of RAM and it works really well. I know it’s not as fast as your MacBook Pro’s but it still works. I do agree with what you said in summary with Apple’s new processors. I do personally think 32 GB of RAM is almost overkill for about everything.

  • @DK_lma
    @DK_lma ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this very detailed review. Loved all those different tests you ran especially the ones for battery life, they surprised me alot! You are always my go to TH-camr when i want to get a new Laptop.

  • @alanliang9538
    @alanliang9538 ปีที่แล้ว

    just get a 600 dollars mbp m1 2020 refurbished。😂 m2 or 14inch is not worth the premium

  • @grinps
    @grinps ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone experienced hdmi port on MacBook pro 14 M1 & M2 are bit loose? The hdmi cables are not very secure when plugged in. Tried with differing cables, the results is the same.

  • @popokatapetl6995
    @popokatapetl6995 ปีที่แล้ว

    They change the game but it is all freaking soldered in Apple. It is just unacceptable. And consumer will change this game soon

  • @peacelove3817
    @peacelove3817 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I don’t spend now on the perfect laptop that will last I am afraid I will not afford one in 5-7 yrs. Therefore storage & longevity performance is important to me.

  • @xavhow
    @xavhow ปีที่แล้ว

    I have M1, holding out for M3 3nm. As soon as I find out M2 is still on 5nm, I knew it’s not worth upgrading.

  • @anthonyzouki
    @anthonyzouki ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a MacBook pro from 2017 I definitely need an upgrade would not mind a 14inch pro 10 core

  • @MW-mn1el
    @MW-mn1el ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the detailed review. To talk about metrics that actually matter in everyday use, that I didn’t got enough of from other reviewer, and balanced recommendation. Thermal, noise, battery, experience and purchase decision comparison stand out compare to other reviewer.

    • @JustJoshTech
      @JustJoshTech  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks mate. I try to make it as useful as possible

  • @ReneesTravelChannel
    @ReneesTravelChannel ปีที่แล้ว

    Im still confused lol Im leading towards M2 Pro 14” Macbook Pro 12cpu 19gpu 6 U.memory 1tb storage… I am wondering if I shoulf upgrade the memory to 32…… its for work and multiple
    Screens will be open at one time and on alot of Itinerary app builders, booking reservations online etc… what would you guys do?

  • @corey7219
    @corey7219 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Asus zephyrus g14 (2021) has been rock solid for the year and a half i owned it. I'm not upgrading my laptop anytime soon

  • @WOUUUTT
    @WOUUUTT ปีที่แล้ว

    As a dev, refurbished m1 pro 10 CPU core, 16 GPU, 32 GB, or an M2 32GB ram? (both 14")

  • @tty2020
    @tty2020 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard that for the latest MacBook pros, 512GB SSD is twice as fast as the 256GB one. Is this true?

  • @lunamiya1689
    @lunamiya1689 ปีที่แล้ว

    M2 Pro GPU utilization is way better than the one in M1 Pro almost 2x, apple had done some magic on the GPU