@samsausagehead99 Yup, she was inserted for SISP which was to cover RH's indefinite exit but I felt that s/l would've been silly because Todd would've found a way home (which is what happened in the rewrite). We're just saying, SISP didn't need to happen for drama, another s/l with relevant characters would've worked. Yes, the rebound sex (a miracle in itself) allowed for the possibility of a TnT child & without SISP, Dani wouldn't exist, but that really wouldn't be any kind of loss for me...lol
Ill get to kdp as i aggree live she was given the hardest material & blew everyone away. Not even an emmy nomination. Rh is & at a very young age when he started on the show a powerhouse actor. Head writer malone screwed up just using him to prop martys story first as a frat boy classmate she took home for a one night stand it was just to show how lonely & low marty had sunk. Then she kisses todd only to reject him. Their was this weird back & forth of marty trashing him or hitting on him. U never got a rape vibe from him just clumsy obsessive on marty & then malone took a hard left & made todd the leader of a gang rape! All to redeem marty. Anyway my point is , roger can & did do everything & its criminal he never won more emmys. Hes such a great reactive actor as well. Which they say is the best part of acting. Plus his hunour facial expressions which malone finally credited rh for having these reactions that werent even directed he had such a gift for saying something than w/ those facial expressiins showing about 10 different emotions. To the point kdp got robbed a lot. This show going live was revolutionary at that time as soaps were always taped w/ rehearsal etc. Kdp deservedcan emmy for this. I mean rh & kdp are so good together as they really are so so natural onscreen rh knew this was kdps momemt & he doesnt step on it at all. He pretty much doesnt show much reaction. U know he has hated himself for this hated he gave a baby away ( which is so out of charactee for todd as they showed way back in early 94 his love for kids starting w/ cj & sarah. So for todd to give any baby away i mean knowing todd i think he snapped once his mortal enemies child came. But how they had him say to david when he said " ill get him a good home" todd saying " good home bad home band of gypsies dont care " its just not todd. That child could have been sold on the black market god knows where. At least david it seems got him a decent home but b/c he went to a wealthy woman but that guy buck really seemed to love the baby & he had a nice home a nanny & jack wasnt harmed. The point is todd who was devastated that victor lord dumped him off ( yes victor knew he was his son ) but todd still was crushed & went on how horrible it was that victor dumped him in an abusive home w/ his adopted dad peter. Todd again loved all kids. So i really feel kdp got the toughest material during live week & knocked it out of the park. The way shes able to cry like that i always thought she was one of the best criers on tv along w/ jonathan jackson who racked up a bunch of emmys. Steve burton as well when called to cry those blue eyes get bloodshot. He even won an emmy on gh for a scene where he sobs. JJ as well when playing drunk & sobbing when confronting his wife & brother about cheating he won an emmy. But kdp is sobbing live & had the toughest part learning all the happiness she thought she finally had the perfect husband family children was all just shattered & she has to confront the man she has married 3x knows her daughter will be cryshed basically her family is over & of coutse she is madly in love w/ todd & hes always had her under some hold or spell b/c i think he does make blair feel safe & secure & she does know hes been a wonderful dad & husband during all 3 marriages. I mean she hust blew this away. Even the part where she throws todd out & is just lying like a zombie on the stairs is amazing.
@@nattyps3160 WONDERFUL HUSBAND during all 3 marriages?? Todd's just spent months lying to her and has hurt her terribly. She's devastated that he would do that to her. Their 1st marriage included the threat of rape and manhandling of her with actual bruises. Their 2nd marriage he punished her daily , gaslighting her, and then kidnapped Starr. And here we are in their 3rd marriage and he has done something this despicable to her. He can be a good husband but he can also be a terrible husband. Blair certainly is in no hurry to get back with him after this. It takes awhile and he resorts to a crazy scam (Mafia scam) to get her back. Then, in 2011, she's wary of him and actually chooses Tomas until Todd has Tomas kidnapped. ***Note: Agreed that KDP is awesome here!!!
@Rosannasfriend YES!! Tea's always thrust rather abruptly and awkwardly into story lines. I never understood why FL was brought in to facilitate RH's exit because SISP was an utterly unbelievable explanation of Todd's long term absence. He was madly in love with Blair and nothing would have kept him from his kids. Thank God RH signed on for more and we got the Tea-as-a-rebound-that-makes-Todd-realize-he-needs-to-paddle-home- to-Blair s/l. But still...I so coulda done without the Tea...
6:20... Blair: you must think im the stupidest eprson in the whole world Todd: no. I think youre a little emotional maybe holy hell. how did he have the nerve to say that?! im so impressed blair didnt strangle him right there
A lot of todd fans hated how he was from about late 01 to 03. He was so goofy. He was way more deep & serious & mature in 95 when he was younger. This happens to characters. If u watched Tina played by andrea she was much more in control not ditsy & shrewd. She always had a heart for viki but she was not the air head she became even played by andrea. By the time krista played her at the end she was just stupid & everyone around her called her variations of stupid brain dead ditz & idiot. That was not the Tina I just watched in 85 with mitch. She wasn't an Airhead more a little immature bc of her young Age but she was know airhead. She also got right up in asa & Dorian's faces & was tough. David Vickers in 94 was a very serious character not the total goofball he became later. It's like these characters get less mature & stupider as they age. As for two characters that they wasted in making them over the top crazy & evil were mitch & maria Robert's, cords mom. As I said I was watching mitch & tina in 85 & mitch was just a grifter. Greedy conman but he was charming , handsome & not evil just out for money. Then as the 80s went on he started that cult, he murdered some guy & tried to rape cassie. Dorian " killed him " mitch could have been a good character for years. Maria Roberts was pretty normal. She did not like her son with Tina bc she saw she was a schemer. She was great when she did not go pycho killer. She was the one who introduced max holden. She paid him off to seduce Tina away from cord. Her fights with Tina are iconic. Then they had her go off the deep end & die. What a waste. She reminded me in her battles with viki very much of Dorian. She was def q character that could have caused trouble in llainview for years. She had ties to the show. Her son cord & grandkids & I could have seen her & clint when viki went with sloan.
He's so flippant! His sociopathy or narcissism are really showing! He's delusional to think she'll stay and she doesn't give a second's thought to staying. Even though I love TnB, I'm glad. After awhile, Todd wants her back so desperately that he cooks up the crazy Mafia scam. "I just wanted to be with you and I didn't want to wait." he said about that scam afterward. Just like her lies, his schemes regularly backfire on him, causing separation and further mistrust between them.
Krimee, damn Todd just own up to your mess man! I don't think even I could forgive Todd for this one. Can you imagine trying to forgive someone for stealing your baby and saying he was dead, khrist~
What todd did was horrible but blair got that ball rolling . She should have told todd right away about the baby being his. Blair always plays these unnessecary games with todd knowing how jealous he is . She had max gloating in his face a man he hates . Blair was gloating in his face . Her reasoning is just nutty she was giving todd a test to see if he could love another mans child, what's the point of that since it was a moot point it was todds. She knew he'd be thrilled and she knows him he was mean to her and took starr bc he hated that she was having maxs baby . If she had told him he wouldn't have taken starr . So she kept lying bc she was afraid he'd take this baby but he was taking starr bc of it being maxs baby its a circle thar goes around but bottom line if she told him it was his none of this wouod have happened. Also blair hypocritical bc she gets so angry that todd took starr ir fought ans eon custody bit blair always uses the kids to punish todd. During star wars she thought only she had the right to starr and refused to let him see her as a baby. When she stroked out Dorian as her guardian bc she was in a coma divorced todd and fought for full custody of starr and when blair woke up instrad of blaming Dorian she blamed todd but what was he supposed to do. She always had Dorian coming in the way this time it was kelly . Blair always listens to them but not todd. He already had to sit through blair carrying Patrick's baby a baby she made when todd came back . What if todd never kidnapped starr and they got back together than what with brendan? Todd did something horrible but it takes two to tango blair lied to him about a few pregnancies so maybe he snapped. I just wish todd realized that in sleeping with blair that baby could have been his and asked for a paternity test. He knows blair lies but I guess he believed her . I hated this bc they are an interesting couple when they are happy. Check out most of 95 so it was hard to really get into the manning being this happy couple bc I knew this secret wouod drop and it went on too long from November to may.
One thing that's awesome about TnB is their forgiveness of one another. Her lies/misdeeds don't stop him from loving her. He proposes 8 times! He wasn't even mad about the paternity lie. Blair also loves him despite his most hurtful actions like the DBL. That's romantic in a twisted kind of way! Love this couple!
Blair often said that she lied about Jack's paternity for fear that Todd would take Jack. The fact that she was ready to marry a man she didn't love (giving up the man she did love) or ready to leave absolutely all of her loved ones when running with Jack; including leaving Starr and Addy (!), speaks volumes re: the intensity of her fear.
I heard roger was leaving so I assumed that was the exit story for the show to just leave him on that island & that would have been it. I was surprised when he showed back up. I think it was wasted though he gets blair to forgive him & immediately sam ruins it like the next couple days. What was the point of all that just for tnb to get back only to break up yet again. Then mitch came on & I was stunned how mitch just owned todd , once even scarier than mitch in his college days. I mean that's how roger left being put in Victor's mausoleum. I remembered thinking eventually someone would find him , ben died a year later. Obviously we got the rewrite that the CIA took todd, the real todd. I was on a break from the show so how did faux todd explain how he got out of the crypt ? I mean was mitch s plan to let him just starve to death in there ? Kinda obvious mitch put him in there. Such a mess. I'd rather rh exit was the island & us just figuring hed get off someday. I think roger coming & going every few years they just ran outta exits. In 98 he just left. I thought after the baby lie came out they could have just had him decide to go. I really hated seeing mitch just destroy him.
Poor Tea. The sad island encounter! She tells him she loves him, has sex with him and he tells her he loves Blair and then risks his life to get to Blair. Tea's still really angry in 2011; saying she felt rejected and abandoned by Todd.
TnB fans have it rough. Todd's about to lose all that he so desired. Soon, he'll desperately want Blair back; enough to hatch the Mafia scheme. But, once uncovered, Blair leaves again. Todd begs her to stay but there's no way after the fear that she and Starr felt during the Mafia scam following on the DBL. Then, in 2011, Todd has his competition kidnapped. Discovery sends Blair back to the arms of her former lover. Todd's doesn't learn well from his mistakes! Neither does Blair with her lies. It's hard on the fans!
What todd did was sick but can blair take a shred of blame? She was willing to let todd believe he never had a son. Blair ran away to hide the baby. She also let him stay in agony for months while blair & max gloated. He also actually didnt take starr away til blair decided to marry max.
What Todd did was sick, period! Blair shouldn't have lied but she was afraid he'd take Jack! And she did nothing so evil as putting an innocent baby at risk and telling the baby's mother the baby is dead when he gave it away, even saying, "Just get rid of it". **Added Note: In the actual story line, TnB were reunited. Only in some fantasy S/L, did Blair fail to tell Todd about Jack. We don't get censored for plans; only what we actually do! Todd also seriously considered leaving the country when he kidnapped Starr!
Blair def hurt Todd with her lie. But you claim that Blair let Todd "stay in agony for months". High drama! He wasn't even mad when he found out. He actually said, "The biggest mistake I made was letting go of you. I don't want to live my life without you.", Those "months" of "agony" apparently left very little impression on him! **Added Note: After Blair told Todd that she and Max were NOT getting married, he still kept her from Starr. Vicki described it as "criminal" on his part.
There was really no good reason why Blair didn’t tell Todd he was the father. No good reason at all. Even during and after she gave birth , she had about a thousand different chances to tell him
Plus she gave paloma maxs phone number & he ran to mexico. Why is it ok for blair to use todd as a speem donor & cash register? She said 50x to herself to sam to addie todd could never know the truth. I honestly believe she was never going to tell him he had a son. She had 7 months plus during labor during birth after birth & babbled how they won! The next morning. 4 words its ur baby todd! & she even knew hed be thrilled. Plus she tried to marry sam than max who dumped the marriage idea so legally todd never would have been the dad. So todd didnt follow her to mexico she planned to never tell him. She trued this crap w/ starr & planned to not tell him either it took 4 months ! & after he proposed. How bout baby no. 1 which was made up instead of telling todd her best friend he was rich. She didn't even want to get pregnant on their wedding night until the bright todd said " why are u taking birth control ur already pregnant right blair" so she was planning to pull.an asa on todd fake a miscarriage todd gets rich & she takes half. Max actually did him.a favor b/c he got an annulment where blair got nothing although she got melador but w/o todds ftee rent constant millions to get it off the ground plus free publicity in the sun she was done. Melador was finished once she & todd split. Too bad todd wasnt made as bright as he was to demamd a payernity test knowing he slept w/ her months after he knew she wasnt w/ max. They made jack in feb she shot max in nov didnt todd doing the deed notice she was flat aa a flounder at 4 months. Add kelly as dorian jr saying never tell todd. Ugh. Blair so knew if she told todd it was his baby hed be over the moon. Ugh. So i guess kidnapping todds baby is fine. I swear if todd didnt tell her the baby was dead blair woupd have still played mqx its yrs.
@@nattyps3160 She can have his kids and live off him because he keeps wanting her back in his bed and his life! He wasn't even mad about her paternity lie. He loves her enough that he forgives and continues to pursue her. 3 more proposals after this! And in some fantasy, alternate s/l Blair might have run off with Jack. However, in the real s/l, she and Todd reunite and with Jack. Neither her plan, nor his earlier plan to take Starr out of the country, were realized.
The reason for her lie, she has cited often, to 4 different people, as her fear he'll take Jack. She even has an extended, nightmarish fantasy about that fear. She wanted him to pass a test at one point but that was secondary and very short lived.
Then why did the have her say for a couple months she wanted todd to pass the test that he could love maxs baby. Really dumb. Todd was also made dumb not asking for a dna test or to see blairs medical records. Blair lied she was pregnant w/ starr for 4 months before she finally told him. Dorian was the one who put in blairs head todd would " snatch that baby from u " what in the delivery room? Hed have his lawyers slap a court order on blairs baby? Once she told him he was thrilled. He wasnt even mad she waited 4 months or said she almost had an abortion. Plus theyd never had a child yet their first obviously was a miscarriage. Also before todd proposed & b4 their stable sex reunion todd really wasnt bothering blair at all. They had him on his save marty obsession from her drinking & lupus. He even tried to give her the back rent on melador. Im sorry but blair blew up that marriage. Lying about being pregnabt knowing ur best friend has a huge inheritance is terrible. Plus blair never told him she loved him back & blairs first reflex was to hunt her lawyer down to empty her & todds joint bank accts & get todd off of any melador involvement when he literally made it happen. Buying a building so she didnt have to pay asa rent putting up all the $$ he also took over addies medical bills. He treated blair like a queen. So blair crushed a lot of todds newfound trust & growth. He said it to tina asa max that he & blair have no secrets & he said blair was the person he ever trusted in his life. Its sad b/c tnb had it all the acting the fire chemistry the humour the sexiness the looks then finally here 2 beautiful kids & they hit the jackpot w/ kristen who i think learned a lot from rh kdp & erika skezak.
@@nattyps3160 Blair spoke just twice about him "passing the test". In contrast, she repeatedly discussed with 4 separate people; Sam, Kelly, Bo, and Starr, that fear was the reason for her lie. She also had a fearful daydream sequence about Todd grabbing Jack and running. She knew how readily he would turn on her after he risked her freedom just because he was jealous! And he DID turn on her a 2nd time with Gabby/Asa. He also kept her from Starr twice and had once before kidnapped Starr. ** Added Note: Agreed that Blair was very much at fault for the fact that their love got off to such a bad start in the 90's!! But after that, they both were responsible for the problems and mistrust between them.
On the island it's the end of all "romance" between them. He leaves her for Blair and they are just friends/exes/frenemies after that. They are barely speaking when Todd's story is over.
@samsausagehead99 Yup, she was inserted for SISP which was to cover RH's indefinite exit but I felt that s/l would've been silly because Todd would've found a way home (which is what happened in the rewrite). We're just saying, SISP didn't need to happen for drama, another s/l with relevant characters would've worked. Yes, the rebound sex (a miracle in itself) allowed for the possibility of a TnT child & without SISP, Dani wouldn't exist, but that really wouldn't be any kind of loss for me...lol
I can't believe this story is almost 10 years old it seemed like yesterday when I watched this
Tour de force by KDP. This storyline damn near broke my heart.
Im still mad to this day my girl KDP didnt at least get nominated for this LIVE!!! 😡😡😡
Ill get to kdp as i aggree live she was given the hardest material & blew everyone away. Not even an emmy nomination. Rh is & at a very young age when he started on the show a powerhouse actor. Head writer malone screwed up just using him to prop martys story first as a frat boy classmate she took home for a one night stand it was just to show how lonely & low marty had sunk. Then she kisses todd only to reject him. Their was this weird back & forth of marty trashing him or hitting on him. U never got a rape vibe from him just clumsy obsessive on marty & then malone took a hard left & made todd the leader of a gang rape! All to redeem marty. Anyway my point is , roger can & did do everything & its criminal he never won more emmys. Hes such a great reactive actor as well. Which they say is the best part of acting. Plus his hunour facial expressions which malone finally credited rh for having these reactions that werent even directed he had such a gift for saying something than w/ those facial expressiins showing about 10 different emotions. To the point kdp got robbed a lot. This show going live was revolutionary at that time as soaps were always taped w/ rehearsal etc. Kdp deservedcan emmy for this. I mean rh & kdp are so good together as they really are so so natural onscreen rh knew this was kdps momemt & he doesnt step on it at all. He pretty much doesnt show much reaction. U know he has hated himself for this hated he gave a baby away ( which is so out of charactee for todd as they showed way back in early 94 his love for kids starting w/ cj & sarah. So for todd to give any baby away i mean knowing todd i think he snapped once his mortal enemies child came. But how they had him say to david when he said " ill get him a good home" todd saying " good home bad home band of gypsies dont care " its just not todd. That child could have been sold on the black market god knows where. At least david it seems got him a decent home but b/c he went to a wealthy woman but that guy buck really seemed to love the baby & he had a nice home a nanny & jack wasnt harmed. The point is todd who was devastated that victor lord dumped him off ( yes victor knew he was his son ) but todd still was crushed & went on how horrible it was that victor dumped him in an abusive home w/ his adopted dad peter. Todd again loved all kids.
So i really feel kdp got the toughest material during live week & knocked it out of the park. The way shes able to cry like that i always thought she was one of the best criers on tv along w/ jonathan jackson who racked up a bunch of emmys. Steve burton as well when called to cry those blue eyes get bloodshot. He even won an emmy on gh for a scene where he sobs. JJ as well when playing drunk & sobbing when confronting his wife & brother about cheating he won an emmy. But kdp is sobbing live & had the toughest part learning all the happiness she thought she finally had the perfect husband family children was all just shattered & she has to confront the man she has married 3x knows her daughter will be cryshed basically her family is over & of coutse she is madly in love w/ todd & hes always had her under some hold or spell b/c i think he does make blair feel safe & secure & she does know hes been a wonderful dad & husband during all 3 marriages. I mean she hust blew this away. Even the part where she throws todd out & is just lying like a zombie on the stairs is amazing.
@@nattyps3160 WONDERFUL HUSBAND during all 3 marriages?? Todd's just spent months lying to her and has hurt her terribly. She's devastated that he would do that to her. Their 1st marriage included the threat of rape and manhandling of her with actual bruises. Their 2nd marriage he punished her daily , gaslighting her, and then kidnapped Starr. And here we are in their 3rd marriage and he has done something this despicable to her. He can be a good husband but he can also be a terrible husband. Blair certainly is in no hurry to get back with him after this. It takes awhile and he resorts to a crazy scam (Mafia scam) to get her back. Then, in 2011, she's wary of him and actually chooses Tomas until Todd has Tomas kidnapped. ***Note: Agreed that KDP is awesome here!!!
@Rosannasfriend YES!! Tea's always thrust rather abruptly and awkwardly into story lines. I never understood why FL was brought in to facilitate RH's exit because SISP was an utterly unbelievable explanation of Todd's long term absence. He was madly in love with Blair and nothing would have kept him from his kids. Thank God RH signed on for more and we got the Tea-as-a-rebound-that-makes-Todd-realize-he-needs-to-paddle-home- to-Blair s/l. But still...I so coulda done without the Tea...
6:20...
Blair: you must think im the stupidest eprson in the whole world
Todd: no. I think youre a little emotional maybe
holy hell. how did he have the nerve to say that?! im so impressed blair didnt strangle him right there
A lot of todd fans hated how he was from about late 01 to 03. He was so goofy. He was way more deep & serious & mature in 95 when he was younger. This happens to characters. If u watched Tina played by andrea she was much more in control not ditsy & shrewd. She always had a heart for viki but she was not the air head she became even played by andrea. By the time krista played her at the end she was just stupid & everyone around her called her variations of stupid brain dead ditz & idiot. That was not the Tina I just watched in 85 with mitch. She wasn't an Airhead more a little immature bc of her young Age but she was know airhead. She also got right up in asa & Dorian's faces & was tough. David Vickers in 94 was a very serious character not the total goofball he became later. It's like these characters get less mature & stupider as they age.
As for two characters that they wasted in making them over the top crazy & evil were mitch & maria Robert's, cords mom. As I said I was watching mitch & tina in 85 & mitch was just a grifter. Greedy conman but he was charming , handsome & not evil just out for money. Then as the 80s went on he started that cult, he murdered some guy & tried to rape cassie. Dorian " killed him " mitch could have been a good character for years. Maria Roberts was pretty normal. She did not like her son with Tina bc she saw she was a schemer. She was great when she did not go pycho killer. She was the one who introduced max holden. She paid him off to seduce Tina away from cord. Her fights with Tina are iconic. Then they had her go off the deep end & die. What a waste. She reminded me in her battles with viki very much of Dorian. She was def q character that could have caused trouble in llainview for years. She had ties to the show. Her son cord & grandkids & I could have seen her & clint when viki went with sloan.
He's so flippant! His sociopathy or narcissism are really showing! He's delusional to think she'll stay and she doesn't give a second's thought to staying. Even though I love TnB, I'm glad. After awhile, Todd wants her back so desperately that he cooks up the crazy Mafia scam. "I just wanted to be with you and I didn't want to wait." he said about that scam afterward. Just like her lies, his schemes regularly backfire on him, causing separation and further mistrust between them.
Krimee, damn Todd just own up to your mess man! I don't think even I could forgive Todd for this one. Can you imagine trying to forgive someone for stealing your baby and saying he was dead, khrist~
What todd did was horrible but blair got that ball rolling . She should have told todd right away about the baby being his. Blair always plays these unnessecary games with todd knowing how jealous he is . She had max gloating in his face a man he hates . Blair was gloating in his face . Her reasoning is just nutty she was giving todd a test to see if he could love another mans child, what's the point of that since it was a moot point it was todds. She knew he'd be thrilled and she knows him he was mean to her and took starr bc he hated that she was having maxs baby . If she had told him he wouldn't have taken starr . So she kept lying bc she was afraid he'd take this baby but he was taking starr bc of it being maxs baby its a circle thar goes around but bottom line if she told him it was his none of this wouod have happened.
Also blair hypocritical bc she gets so angry that todd took starr ir fought ans eon custody bit blair always uses the kids to punish todd. During star wars she thought only she had the right to starr and refused to let him see her as a baby. When she stroked out Dorian as her guardian bc she was in a coma divorced todd and fought for full custody of starr and when blair woke up instrad of blaming Dorian she blamed todd but what was he supposed to do. She always had Dorian coming in the way this time it was kelly . Blair always listens to them but not todd. He already had to sit through blair carrying Patrick's baby a baby she made when todd came back . What if todd never kidnapped starr and they got back together than what with brendan? Todd did something horrible but it takes two to tango blair lied to him about a few pregnancies so maybe he snapped. I just wish todd realized that in sleeping with blair that baby could have been his and asked for a paternity test. He knows blair lies but I guess he believed her . I hated this bc they are an interesting couple when they are happy. Check out most of 95 so it was hard to really get into the manning being this happy couple bc I knew this secret wouod drop and it went on too long from November to may.
One thing that's awesome about TnB is their forgiveness of one another. Her lies/misdeeds don't stop him from loving her. He proposes 8 times! He wasn't even mad about the paternity lie. Blair also loves him despite his most hurtful actions like the DBL. That's romantic in a twisted kind of way! Love this couple!
Blair often said that she lied about Jack's paternity for fear that Todd would take Jack. The fact that she was ready to marry a man she didn't love (giving up the man she did love) or ready to leave absolutely all of her loved ones when running with Jack; including leaving Starr and Addy (!), speaks volumes re: the intensity of her fear.
@EllaVin11 I know why she was there. For the desert island storyline. That lasted awhile. ALSO if it not had been for that, Dani wouldnt exsist.
I heard roger was leaving so I assumed that was the exit story for the show to just leave him on that island & that would have been it. I was surprised when he showed back up. I think it was wasted though he gets blair to forgive him & immediately sam ruins it like the next couple days. What was the point of all that just for tnb to get back only to break up yet again. Then mitch came on & I was stunned how mitch just owned todd , once even scarier than mitch in his college days. I mean that's how roger left being put in Victor's mausoleum. I remembered thinking eventually someone would find him , ben died a year later. Obviously we got the rewrite that the CIA took todd, the real todd. I was on a break from the show so how did faux todd explain how he got out of the crypt ? I mean was mitch s plan to let him just starve to death in there ? Kinda obvious mitch put him in there. Such a mess. I'd rather rh exit was the island & us just figuring hed get off someday. I think roger coming & going every few years they just ran outta exits. In 98 he just left. I thought after the baby lie came out they could have just had him decide to go. I really hated seeing mitch just destroy him.
Poor Tea. The sad island encounter! She tells him she loves him, has sex with him and he tells her he loves Blair and then risks his life to get to Blair. Tea's still really angry in 2011; saying she felt rejected and abandoned by Todd.
TnB fans have it rough. Todd's about to lose all that he so desired. Soon, he'll desperately want Blair back; enough to hatch the Mafia scheme. But, once uncovered, Blair leaves again. Todd begs her to stay but there's no way after the fear that she and Starr felt during the Mafia scam following on the DBL. Then, in 2011, Todd has his competition kidnapped. Discovery sends Blair back to the arms of her former lover. Todd's doesn't learn well from his mistakes! Neither does Blair with her lies. It's hard on the fans!
What todd did was sick but can blair take a shred of blame? She was willing to let todd believe he never had a son. Blair ran away to hide the baby. She also let him stay in agony for months while blair & max gloated. He also actually didnt take starr away til blair decided to marry max.
What Todd did was sick, period! Blair shouldn't have lied but she was afraid he'd take Jack! And she did nothing so evil as putting an innocent baby at risk and telling the baby's mother the baby is dead when he gave it away, even saying, "Just get rid of it". **Added Note: In the actual story line, TnB were reunited. Only in some fantasy S/L, did Blair fail to tell Todd about Jack. We don't get censored for plans; only what we actually do! Todd also seriously considered leaving the country when he kidnapped Starr!
Blair def hurt Todd with her lie. But you claim that Blair let Todd "stay in agony for months". High drama! He wasn't even mad when he found out. He actually said, "The biggest mistake I made was letting go of you. I don't want to live my life without you.", Those "months" of "agony" apparently left very little impression on him! **Added Note: After Blair told Todd that she and Max were NOT getting married, he still kept her from Starr. Vicki described it as "criminal" on his part.
amen yes soooo dramatic, screaming somewhere on the top of her lungs
There was really no good reason why Blair didn’t tell Todd he was the father. No good reason at all. Even during and after she gave birth , she had about a thousand different chances to tell him
Plus she gave paloma maxs phone number & he ran to mexico. Why is it ok for blair to use todd as a speem donor & cash register? She said 50x to herself to sam to addie todd could never know the truth. I honestly believe she was never going to tell him he had a son. She had 7 months plus during labor during birth after birth & babbled how they won! The next morning. 4 words its ur baby todd! & she even knew hed be thrilled. Plus she tried to marry sam than max who dumped the marriage idea so legally todd never would have been the dad. So todd didnt follow her to mexico she planned to never tell him. She trued this crap w/ starr & planned to not tell him either it took 4 months ! & after he proposed. How bout baby no. 1 which was made up instead of telling todd her best friend he was rich. She didn't even want to get pregnant on their wedding night until the bright todd said " why are u taking birth control ur already pregnant right blair" so she was planning to pull.an asa on todd fake a miscarriage todd gets rich & she takes half. Max actually did him.a favor b/c he got an annulment where blair got nothing although she got melador but w/o todds ftee rent constant millions to get it off the ground plus free publicity in the sun she was done. Melador was finished once she & todd split. Too bad todd wasnt made as bright as he was to demamd a payernity test knowing he slept w/ her months after he knew she wasnt w/ max. They made jack in feb she shot max in nov didnt todd doing the deed notice she was flat aa a flounder at 4 months. Add kelly as dorian jr saying never tell todd. Ugh. Blair so knew if she told todd it was his baby hed be over the moon. Ugh. So i guess kidnapping todds baby is fine. I swear if todd didnt tell her the baby was dead blair woupd have still played mqx its yrs.
@@nattyps3160 She can have his kids and live off him because he keeps wanting her back in his bed and his life! He wasn't even mad about her paternity lie. He loves her enough that he forgives and continues to pursue her. 3 more proposals after this! And in some fantasy, alternate s/l Blair might have run off with Jack. However, in the real s/l, she and Todd reunite and with Jack. Neither her plan, nor his earlier plan to take Starr out of the country, were realized.
The reason for her lie, she has cited often, to 4 different people, as her fear he'll take Jack. She even has an extended, nightmarish fantasy about that fear. She wanted him to pass a test at one point but that was secondary and very short lived.
Then why did the have her say for a couple months she wanted todd to pass the test that he could love maxs baby. Really dumb. Todd was also made dumb not asking for a dna test or to see blairs medical records. Blair lied she was pregnant w/ starr for 4 months before she finally told him. Dorian was the one who put in blairs head todd would " snatch that baby from u " what in the delivery room? Hed have his lawyers slap a court order on blairs baby? Once she told him he was thrilled. He wasnt even mad she waited 4 months or said she almost had an abortion. Plus theyd never had a child yet their first obviously was a miscarriage. Also before todd proposed & b4 their stable sex reunion todd really wasnt bothering blair at all. They had him on his save marty obsession from her drinking & lupus. He even tried to give her the back rent on melador. Im sorry but blair blew up that marriage. Lying about being pregnabt knowing ur best friend has a huge inheritance is terrible. Plus blair never told him she loved him back & blairs first reflex was to hunt her lawyer down to empty her & todds joint bank accts & get todd off of any melador involvement when he literally made it happen. Buying a building so she didnt have to pay asa rent putting up all the $$ he also took over addies medical bills. He treated blair like a queen. So blair crushed a lot of todds newfound trust & growth. He said it to tina asa max that he & blair have no secrets & he said blair was the person he ever trusted in his life. Its sad b/c tnb had it all the acting the fire chemistry the humour the sexiness the looks then finally here 2 beautiful kids & they hit the jackpot w/ kristen who i think learned a lot from rh kdp & erika skezak.
@@nattyps3160 Blair spoke just twice about him "passing the test". In contrast, she repeatedly discussed with 4 separate people; Sam, Kelly, Bo, and Starr, that fear was the reason for her lie. She also had a fearful daydream sequence about Todd grabbing Jack and running. She knew how readily he would turn on her after he risked her freedom just because he was jealous! And he DID turn on her a 2nd time with Gabby/Asa. He also kept her from Starr twice and had once before kidnapped Starr. ** Added Note: Agreed that Blair was very much at fault for the fact that their love got off to such a bad start in the 90's!! But after that, they both were responsible for the problems and mistrust between them.
Tea' Delgado ❤🎉 Even if it's just for the exit
On the island it's the end of all "romance" between them. He leaves her for Blair and they are just friends/exes/frenemies after that. They are barely speaking when Todd's story is over.