Ah, so long as the brakes are off (see first sequence!!) and the apron is flat, I don't think it takes that much to start it rolling. Still, I don't see them giving up on tugs any time soon.
When I worked at BHX, I've actually seen the aftermath of a baggage truck hit an Airbus nosewheel, and a mobile baggage conveyor take a chunk out of an F100 wing, to name just two incidents that spring to mind. Both a/c were out of commission for quite a length of time. The joys of putting ground handling out to the cheapest tender.
Yep, I've been in that situation where they replaced us experienced ground crew for cheaper contractors that hire basically kids with minimal experience. I used to work for Qantas and now they outsourced all their work to Swissport and the CEO got a seven figure pay rise for it.
On that first video: it helps to release the aircraft's brakes first before pulling hard with the tug. For those who don't know, that aircraft tug weighs slightly over 42,000 pounds and has a lot of pulling power.
@0:06 *you could see the pushback driver going to breakdown after the incindent, how sad. Imagining you're a father and need to work hard for your family and unfortunately this happened* 😢 👇👍🏻 if u feel the same
They're designed to do that. They're weaker than the nose gear, so the tow bar fails before the gear does. On that MD80 they were using the wrong tow bar.
Im surprised they didnt push the tires on that manual pushback. At least to get it moving. Pushing the tires gives you the mechanical advantage over pushing the strut. And touching the tires is a perfectly safe thing to do.
We do. But this idiot did it with the beacon on and engine running. We put cones around the engines and on the wing tip so ground service drivers don't hit the plane. One in front and on side of engine. Obviously put there when the engine isn't running so they don't suck yourself or the cone into it.
Video is too short to say who's at fault.. it could be the pilot fault by him starting the engine without starting the navigation light, or position light or however you wanna call it first.. It could also be the marshaller fault giving signal to start the engine 1 with someone being next to it.. The cone guy is at fault 100%, when an engine start it takes a bunch of seconds before it power ups to the point to suck a cone.. If you ever hear an engine starting just deep the fuck out or stay in front of the nose of the plane.. But he is likely not the only one at fault..
@@nikosdnlew8109 What are you talking about? The beacons are clearly on. Look on top of the aircraft. The plane has parked, the engine is winding down with the beacons clearly on and these guys approached it. Never go near an aircraft with the beacons on, it means the engines are running. We always make sure we get a thumbs up first from our leading hand and visually look at the lights.
The airlines don't provide the airport tugs. If I were to guess, they wanted to get out of there on schedule when no tug was currently available. Time for some quick 💪.
Man, that Delta 747 was a close call. Guys hooking up the tow bar almost got ran over. (Guys I probably know). Years back, I worked that gate many times.
I don't understand what would have made the 747 move forward when it was already stationary, with a tug right there and people working all around the plane. That's crazy dangerous.. especially when everyone started running away parallel to the engine.. wow!
jasminderpinder I can tell you exactly what caused it, a grumpy, old, impatient as shit captain that is always in a hurry for no damn reason! And this is what happens to them.
Probably thrust lever got bumped or something? That's all I can think of but I'd assume there is something to lock it in place to prevent that from happening?
Rusty S -- Nope, this was caused by idiotic ground crew, according to the FAA accident report. See the guy in the lower right hand corner of the image? He decided he needed to signal the crew for some reason, then sloppily dropped his hands in a manner that was very close to the "proceed on your own" signal, which is what the pilot did.
Ja, Plane came to stop, ENG #2 Off , APU - i dont know. ENG #1 still running. Beacon still on. He wanted to place the cone in front of ENG 2 and the cone was sucked in. He was a Little bit too fast. He needed to wait until the beacon was switched off. I guess he could not hear the ENG. In the start of the Clip you can see the guy in front of the plane just wanted to place the blocks so ... it wasnt the start up, it was the parking of the a/c.
It's been a long, long, long time since I've seen a video that has correct spelling in the captions throughout the entire video. Is idiocracy actually happening?
I didn't know that a manual push back was even a thing? When would this typically be used? Is it just something reserved for when an aircraft makes an emergency landing at an airport and they don't have the relevant towards bars etc?
THE SURPRISING PART ABOUT A MANUAL PUSHBACK BY NORWEGIANS WAS THAT NORWEGIANS WERE ACTUALLY WORKING. That they had no available working tug to push the plane is par for the course for Norway, but that Norwegians were actually filmed working is surely a first in history.
I am surprised Manual Pushback is not more commonly know to happen elsewhere... As I watched, i was thinking why is that part of the video an accident... 😂 See back when I worked with aviation, we used to push a crj900 manually quite often after maintenace checks... Turns out we were being weird... lol.
@@Sweedster no. Look at his arm. He threw it into the engine. And he was standing way too close to a.running engine as it was. Absolute moron whos gonna get himself killed.
At 1:35, a person in a white hoodie clearly threw something into that engine and then walked off. There was no "cone" visible near that engine prior to that. If he used a cone, it appears to be deliberate.
Is it that weak?. Shouldn't it be able to withstand much greater forces...I mean it partly supports the entire weight of the plane while landing at a greater speed...but getting collapsed at this makes me wonder
I recall seeing this human pushback clip as part of another video. I believe that airport did not have the particular pushback tug connector to fit to the nose wheel. I agree it seems like a safety violation.
Henry Chan However, when pushed Bach by a tug the pilot would have no inclination to tap brakes. Pushed back without a tug, if the plane keeps rolling, then he might accidentally tap brakes. Also, men in the wheel well of a moving aircraft with unpinned gear.
The first incident: The guy got fired and 3 months was hired again ( Union does the magic ). I use to manager AA at PHL and had a guy who was fired 3 times and was brought back again and again...shitty company with shitty policies with union leaches ALL DAY!
That did not look like a push back to me, silly fools, that was a manual tow. He was not pushing anything, he was trying to tow the air plane. Wake up fool.
![This United 777 is Too Heavy [Failed Pushback - Airliner Mishaps]](/img/n.gif)
Imagine Ryanair hearing about this "Manual Pushback" thing, crowds would form in parking spots and runways 😂😂
To many people to pay
@@davidfernandez9791 passengers from last flight ;)
They gon make the pax do it, gotta make em flights even cheaper boi
no you mean Easyjet
$20 off if you help push the plane out!
Manual pushback? I've seen it all now, just waiting for a manual takeoff!
Realy... LOL 😅😅😅
Didn’t know a plane was that light
@@andrewgonick Thats a very small plane. But the manual pushback is quite amazing though!
Planes can't reverse themselves.... they also can't turn on engines that close to the building, so it has to be pushed back manually, away from people
@@arrow5726 No shit, a vehicle is used to push it back no 10 people.
Wouldn't want the nose gear collapsing on that manual pushback!
They can just be the landing gear
@@Butter-or2yo imagine how fast they'd have to run on takeoff!
@@jonhartley7445 lol
*Rest of the world:* Ok! We have to cancel the flight because the push back tug is broken!
*Russian Men: Hold our Vodkas!*
Wow humans are suprizingly strong. Damn!
Ah, so long as the brakes are off (see first sequence!!) and the apron is flat, I don't think it takes that much to start it rolling. Still, I don't see them giving up on tugs any time soon.
Norwegian Power, I saw one person with Widerø Logo, Pluss some norwgian talking. That is a Norwgian company that provides airplane services :P
Tor Aronsen It's in Bodø Airport/AFB (ENBO), Norway. The tug didn't fit the nose gear, so the ground crew improvised.
Ever heard of pyramids?
It is relatively easy. I've push started a full 49 seat express bus before now when it had a flat battery
When I worked at BHX, I've actually seen the aftermath of a baggage truck hit an Airbus nosewheel, and a mobile baggage conveyor take a chunk out of an F100 wing, to name just two incidents that spring to mind. Both a/c were out of commission for quite a length of time. The joys of putting ground handling out to the cheapest tender.
Yep, I've been in that situation where they replaced us experienced ground crew for cheaper contractors that hire basically kids with minimal experience. I used to work for Qantas and now they outsourced all their work to Swissport and the CEO got a seven figure pay rise for it.
On that first video: it helps to release the aircraft's brakes first before pulling hard with the tug. For those who don't know, that aircraft tug weighs slightly over 42,000 pounds and has a lot of pulling power.
Never thought a manual pushback was possible.
Thats amazing :)
Never heard of a manual pushback of an airliner. Wow
Those were very informative videos and it can help me to learn from others' mistakes to increase the awareness at my work, thank you
0:05 That is when you know you are fired.
That man trying to stop that cone almost made a very fatal mistake.
that third one looked deliberate
0:07 Gear up, gear down, gear ripped clean of 😂
never seen before manual push back. "literally man pushing back the aircraft" lol
I've done it with a Cessna 152 and a 172. I never knew you could do that with something THAT big.
1:38
He threw something in the engine and he walk like nothing happened ..
Evil
He put a cone in front of the engine and it sucked it up.
What a moron.
I'm sure he got fired.
@@philmontejano5971
And at that distance he could be sucked
I am sure he is still paying for the damages.
Looked to me like he was trying to throw a wheel stop on the ground...and missed...
Badly.
So a manual pushback could be done also on a 747 or an A380.
If You have enough people on shift... who knows.
A380 has more landing gear to have people pushing against! :-)
With the reverse thrusters in the right position, one person could push back a 380.
Give me a long enough lever...
even on an antonov 225 :)
Wow, I didn’t know hoomans were that strong! Pushing a plane back at the same speed as a literal tug!
It doesn't take much to push a plane.
@0:06 *you could see the pushback driver going to breakdown after the incindent, how sad. Imagining you're a father and need to work hard for your family and unfortunately this happened* 😢
👇👍🏻 if u feel the same
Why are you so weird
I remember I was on a British airways 747 going from San Fransisco to London heathrow and as we were pushing back the push bar apparently snapped.
They're designed to do that. They're weaker than the nose gear, so the tow bar fails before the gear does. On that MD80 they were using the wrong tow bar.
@@TrentonLipscomb Universal towing arm...Incorrect shear pin.
Shear pins are designed to break if torque tolerances are exceeded. Better that than damage to aircraft, tug or people!
That nose wheel didn’t collapse on that MD-88. It was disemboweled.
$300M plane, zero front facing cameras for downward visibility.
0:30 When low-cost airlines go to the extreme.
@Bora lá!!! do you know humor?
1:35 They were probably yelled at for months
Im surprised they didnt push the tires on that manual pushback. At least to get it moving.
Pushing the tires gives you the mechanical advantage over pushing the strut.
And touching the tires is a perfectly safe thing to do.
Still trying to figure out what a "collition" is???
Steve still trying to figure what "Fick" is, when everyone spells it as "FUCK"
PS. Just a joke...Peace
Steve Fick
Stop being a smart ass, it's just a simple spelling error. If you can't figure out what it is by watching the video than you're an idiot.
Are you kidding? I'm a terrible speller. My teacher learned me good.
A collition is what happens when Mike Tyson hits his car off stuff
Steve Fick it is a cooperative accident, combining elements of a coalition and a collision.
Would be interesting to see a "manual" takeoff
😅😅😅🤣
Isnt it scary how sensitive these large machinese carrying hundreds of people at a time are.
1:35 Why on earth would you put a cone directly in front of an engine ffs
We do. But this idiot did it with the beacon on and engine running. We put cones around the engines and on the wing tip so ground service drivers don't hit the plane. One in front and on side of engine. Obviously put there when the engine isn't running so they don't suck yourself or the cone into it.
Why would anyone walk so close to a running engine, this is just evolution waiting to happen.
Video is too short to say who's at fault..
it could be the pilot fault by him starting the engine without starting the navigation light, or position light or however you wanna call it first..
It could also be the marshaller fault giving signal to start the engine 1 with someone being next to it..
The cone guy is at fault 100%, when an engine start it takes a bunch of seconds before it power ups to the point to suck a cone.. If you ever hear an engine starting just deep the fuck out or stay in front of the nose of the plane.. But he is likely not the only one at fault..
@@nikosdnlew8109 What are you talking about? The beacons are clearly on. Look on top of the aircraft. The plane has parked, the engine is winding down with the beacons clearly on and these guys approached it. Never go near an aircraft with the beacons on, it means the engines are running. We always make sure we get a thumbs up first from our leading hand and visually look at the lights.
It was an accident, read the title bro, don't be hatin on people cause you don't have jobs alright
0:45 That must be one hell of a low cost airline! 😜
The airlines don't provide the airport tugs. If I were to guess, they wanted to get out of there on schedule when no tug was currently available. Time for some quick 💪.
It's crazy how the manual pushback is faster than with the pushback truck.
Man, that Delta 747 was a close call. Guys hooking up the tow bar almost got ran over. (Guys I probably know). Years back, I worked that gate many times.
I don't understand what would have made the 747 move forward when it was already stationary, with a tug right there and people working all around the plane. That's crazy dangerous.. especially when everyone started running away parallel to the engine.. wow!
jasminderpinder I can tell you exactly what caused it, a grumpy, old, impatient as shit captain that is always in a hurry for no damn reason! And this is what happens to them.
Probably thrust lever got bumped or something? That's all I can think of but I'd assume there is something to lock it in place to prevent that from happening?
jasminderpinder looks to me like the guy in front telling the pilot to stop walked off and through some idiocity the pilot thought that meant go
Rusty S -- Nope, this was caused by idiotic ground crew, according to the FAA accident report. See the guy in the lower right hand corner of the image? He decided he needed to signal the crew for some reason, then sloppily dropped his hands in a manner that was very close to the "proceed on your own" signal, which is what the pilot did.
Now i know how they push start s plane when the batteries are dead!😂
What has to happen when only PB tractor is InOp!! Nice job Delta lololol
Re: the cone - why were the engines running before pushback? Or had it just parked before shutdown?
Ja, Plane came to stop, ENG #2 Off , APU - i dont know. ENG #1 still running. Beacon still on. He wanted to place the cone in front of ENG 2 and the cone was sucked in. He was a Little bit too fast. He needed to wait until the beacon was switched off. I guess he could not hear the ENG. In the start of the Clip you can see the guy in front of the plane just wanted to place the blocks so ... it wasnt the start up, it was the parking of the a/c.
That was a lovely Sukhoi SSJ being pushed back manually.
not collapsed, snipped!
Yup that tow tug ripped the nose wheel off, i`d say the park brake was not released...!
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1:53 yep better avoid that " COLLITION"
what kind of company would allow their employees to manually push an aircraft? so many safety violations
Just consider how many accidents were not caught on film or reported.
Next to none in the majority of airports.
It's been a long, long, long time since I've seen a video that has correct spelling in the captions throughout the entire video. Is idiocracy actually happening?
Most people you meet in your life are not very smart
Ever since the Feds in America took over education.
Since Idiocracy is not a word, but a movie title, then it's not actually happening. Try IDIOCY....because that shit is !
@@Xixu.co.6 whait
I didn't know that a manual push back was even a thing? When would this typically be used?
Is it just something reserved for when an aircraft makes an emergency landing at an airport and they don't have the relevant towards bars etc?
im pretty sure its done as a joke for the video
Thank you for using apron and not tarmac. You are a first on youtube.
THE SURPRISING PART ABOUT A MANUAL PUSHBACK BY NORWEGIANS WAS THAT NORWEGIANS WERE ACTUALLY WORKING. That they had no available working tug to push the plane is par for the course for Norway, but that Norwegians were actually filmed working is surely a first in history.
Once upon a time I helped at manual push-forward, to save JAS-39 from drowning, during heavy rainstorm at an airshow.
plane:push me human!!!!!muhahaha!!!
I am surprised Manual Pushback is not more commonly know to happen elsewhere... As I watched, i was thinking why is that part of the video an accident... 😂 See back when I worked with aviation, we used to push a crj900 manually quite often after maintenace checks... Turns out we were being weird... lol.
If i'm ever asked to manually pushback an aircraft that normally cant be done by hand, you best believe I'm declining that deathtrap.
What part of the apron, ramp, or runway is the tarmac
he threw the cone in there! wtf?!
Probably just got a lil too close and got succed in
But he would have been sucked in too so I don't understand.
@@Sweedster no. Look at his arm. He threw it into the engine.
And he was standing way too close to a.running engine as it was.
Absolute moron whos gonna get himself killed.
It looked like he was trying to throw it to the dude on the other side
Cone = plastic = hydrocarbon = fuel
That engine became a solid rocket booster for a split second.
"Manual pushback". Did you mean, "GET OUT AND PUSH YOU GLORIOUS WARRIORS"?
This was awesome to watch - why the pushback on the Sukhoi Superjet 100?
At 1:35, a person in a white hoodie clearly threw something into that engine and then walked off. There was no "cone" visible near that engine prior to that. If he used a cone, it appears to be deliberate.
In the near future airlines will demand PAX perform pushbacks to save cost
WTF @ 1.37 ! Did that person deliberately chuck that foreign body into the port engine or is it just me ? Why n where did this occur?
The md80 forgot the parking brake xd
Which salary is higher Ramp agent or Fuel agent?
The md-80's shock strut was ripped away from the nose gear assembly watch and you'll see all the strut fluid fall on to the ground!
1:36 that remained me of a specific race scene in Star Wars: The Phantom Menace...
The second one is my brother flying 😂😂😂
Potato-cam extravaganza.
Just need 20 people to push an a380 then you safe a lot of money
'Safe' a lot of money?... What does that mean?
They could save a lot of money as well... which you can then put into the safe for safe keeping!
What model plane was that they were manually pushing back?
It appears to be an Airbus A220 (previously Bombardier C-Series)
@@Screwbob1711 Sorry but that's not a A220. An A220 only has 4 cockpit windows and different engines.
It looks like Sukhoi Superjet 100.
@@pawelskorupka It is.
The manual pushback on the C Series... Holy shit
The second clip wasn't even a fail an the first one was the gear being ripped by the tug not collapseing.
When I see the word "pushback" I don;t think of aviation...(wink)
Last one was the inspiration for TENET
Суперджет лучший на этом видео!
Wow I didn't know that people could push such a heavy metal tub
First clip is great. Talking about get plastered before surgery. Great idea
at 0:08 that tug pulled the nose wheel out from under the plane. THAT'S GOING TO COST THAT WORKER
wow that is going to leave a mark!
"Night before surgery just get fucking plastered!"
How can a cone or whatever it was, be sucked into an engine when engines are not run at the gate? Engine start up is after or during pushback.
The plane had just taxi'd in from landing. The engines aren't at full power but still enough to suck something in.
I like the looks of that plane they push manually. What is it?
Sukhoi Superjet 100 operated by Cityjet
Is it that weak?. Shouldn't it be able to withstand much greater forces...I mean it partly supports the entire weight of the plane while landing at a greater speed...but getting collapsed at this makes me wonder
The pilot had the parking break set and the pushback driver didn't communicate with the crew that he was going to start the tow.
Ok now i want to see manual push back for the AN-225
same lol
Pushing an aircraft back using human power has got to be a safety violation!
I recall seeing this human pushback clip as part of another video. I believe that airport did not have the particular pushback tug connector to fit to the nose wheel. I agree it seems like a safety violation.
fw1421
With unpinned gear.
And if the pilot taps the breaks then what?
Larry Scott Same could be said if it’s pushed with a tug. Steering pin doesn’t disconnect the brakes.
Henry Chan
However, when pushed Bach by a tug the pilot would have no inclination to tap brakes.
Pushed back without a tug, if the plane keeps rolling, then he might accidentally tap brakes.
Also, men in the wheel well of a moving aircraft with unpinned gear.
Larry Scott it gets harder to push
The first incident:
The guy got fired and 3 months was hired again ( Union does the magic ). I use to manager AA at PHL and had a guy who was fired 3 times and was brought back again and again...shitty company with shitty policies with union leaches ALL DAY!
The first 00:10 the towing arms shear pin should have gone before the nose leg.
how was that second on an incident?
Why were they manually pushing back?
Was this part of a trial for world "strong man" competition???
Carol Morris : They didn’t have the right equipment for that type of airplane. So instead of waiting for it, they fixed it.
@@runarandersen878 Yeah, forget that. Ruin your back forever.
Who pays for that?
Most likely the passengers with air fares and other charges.
Manual pushback.
When you don't have the correct towbar!
did it get fixed?
0:50 that plane was probably like, WTF
Is”collision” some different to “collision”
*THE PEOPLE AT **0:57** THEY REALLY STRONG LIKE HOW DUDE*
What is the second plane????
Seems like ssj-100
Awesome!
0:16 Tug driver: Do you think they'll notice? 2:28 Why did the aircraft taxi forward???
1:35-1:40. Are my eyes fooling me or does it look like that grounds crew person intentionally set that cone in that area to be sucked into the engine?
Yep he did
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So how was the surgery and most importantly did you take Uber?? Lol
I don’t understand this is just a standard operating day at any airport
*collision, not "collition".
pingpongpung
He gets it by now. Only 14 comments on a miss spell. Give him a break.
Now all Ryanair needs is a manual super hard landing
That did not look like a push back to me, silly fools, that was a manual tow. He was not pushing anything, he was trying to tow the air plane. Wake up fool.