High Charity Escort Fleet vs Coruscant Defense Fleet | The Covenant vs The Republic (Star Wars)
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- Two of the largest fleets imaginable go head-to-head, as the Covenant from Halo take on the Galactic Republic from Star Wars.
The fleet that protected High Charity was, according to Cortana at least, the largest anyone has ever seen. Today, that fleet is going against the fleet fielded by the Republic during the Space Battle of Coruscant. Covenant vs Republic. Coruscant vs High Charity. Star Wars vs Halo. Who Will Win? Watch today's episode of Star Wars: Galactic Versus to find out!
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High Charity was the Holy City of the Covenant, and was protected by the largest covenant fleet in history. This fleet, and High Charity itself, first appeared in Halo 2. The fleet is greatly dwindled after the Covenant Schism, and High Charity itself is destroyed in Halo 3 after a flood infection. It was actually many fleets which protected the city, together they may also be known as the Second Fleet of Homogeneous Clarity.
The Coruscant Defense Fleet was one of the largest massed forces during the Clone Wars. The Fleet was made up of smaller battleclusters, including the Open Circle Fleet.
I did grapple with both Covenant and Republic Fleet Size issues here, let me know what you thought!
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The Unbidden and the other dimension Empires (Stellaris) invade the Forerunners and Ancient Humanity
Thor's Hammer we've been over this it is no a fair matchup
EckhartsLadder
The Reapers invade The Galaxy during the EP 3 in the middle of the battle of Coruscant.
(Coruscant is the first target of the Reapers)
john smith
How though?
The Unbidden and the others are Extremely advance Empires that defeated other Galaxies before.
“Ship master. They outnumber us 3 to 1”
“Then it is an even fight”
Unveiling yeti you messed up bro
Fair*
@@joelx8499 no it's "then it is an even fight"
UnveilingYeti 27 Not even close Star Wars ships are actually pretty on par with halo ships
@@charlottewalnut3118 ... It's a joke
Always loved the scene where the Elites and the marines are starting ding around trading weaponry lol.
Yuki Terumi I thought they did it so they wouldn't kill each other lol
Oh that is why. It's always an aspect that the fighters respect each others weapons after seeing it wiz past their head. lol
Shadow Of Intent
So they don't kill each other? LoL
Elites and marines stand "you guys want to go!?"
Sargent and Arbiter "Hay no violence! Calm down or your not going to get an alien gun."
Elites "they started it..."
Daniel Tutor Rvb?
yep
Honestly down here it’s just fans vs fans
Yes, and I'm a fan of both, but halo will always win the day for me
I think the only way Star Wars could win is if it was like the entire Imperial Navy against like half of High Charity’s defense force. The weaponry just heavily outguns the Star Wars Universe.
Jacob Keyes "the entire Imperial Navy against like half of High Charity’s defense force."
That is taking it a little too far, but nevertheless Covie weapons ARE stronger then the weapons of the Star Wars factions.
Raving Rando But why? I admit that I am not a super-fan of Halo, but it has always been my impression that the power levels of individual ships and such are roughly equivalent. Why is it that so many think that Halo is somehow infinitely stronger?
t-minus tyson
This is long... Sorry. But if you're interested, have fun.
Personally this has been a pet peeve of mine for a while, so I sadly ended up wasting too much of my life studying the two factions. Staring at pictures, reading moments, watching scenes over and over and debating with hardcore fans, I've come to this conclusion.
Canon Turbolasers are about on par in power to Covenant Pulse Lasers, not as strong as Plasma Torpedoes which continually eat away at their target even after initial impact and also can cause explosions rivaling nukes when used for orbital glassing. Nowhere close to the ever mentioned Energy Projector, which has been known to cause an EMP effect to any electronics, knocking out shielding almost instantly even when the lance shot is a few miles away and boiling away all known metals instantly.
Scenes in Star Wars that back my claim are:
1. Rebels with the bombardments resulting in tiny blasts and little damage.
2. TLJ with the Dreadnought firing at a planet with super cannons resulting in a blast about on par with Covenant orbital bombardment, meaning that those special guns are what it takes to be on par with standard Covenant orbital glassing.
3. TCWs with the assault on the Malevolence, hours to maybe even days of hitting a larger shield-less ship to no avail.
Star Wars fans will constantly claim that Covenant shielding is weak to energy based weapons to help their argument, to which they're half right. Covenant ship shielding is weak to higher end Covenant grade energy weapons (Plasma Torpedoes and Energy Projectors), not all energy based weapons. Meaning if I and those that think alike to me are in fact correct, then the Empire would have a hard time knocking out Covenant ships when Imperial weapons are only on par with Pulse Lasers. Even after the shield is down, the Empire would then have anywhere to over 100 feet of Nanolaminate armor to have to punch through before the shielding reboots and goes back up in a few minutes. And Nanolaminate is harder and more heat resistant then Titanium, meaning it'll be an absolute turd for the Empire to have to deal with.
Now if this were the Legends Star Was factions, then the Covenant wouldn't stand a chance. The writers of the Star Wars EU kept upping the ante in an attempt to out do one another, you have fools that honestly think Palpatine can beat Majin Buu when they use Legends material. Palpatine, the same guy that was easily picked up by Vader and thrown down a shaft to his death. They think he can beat a planet breaker that can't be destroyed unless by a special DB style attack
So to put it simply, the way I see it is this.
Legends SW > HALO
Canon SW < HALO
Feel free to disagree with me. I really don't care anymore.
Stormtroopers: “WE HAVE YOU SURROUNDED”
Spec-ops Elite: All I’m surrounded by is fear and dead men **Activates active camo**
(Doom Slayer sounds)
@DeadNinjutsu the storm slayer
And then Anakin shows up...
@@arx3516 And then Arbiter shows up.
@@oryxthechadking555 and then a janitor walk into an epic fight between them all as he starts scrubbing the walls
Covenant side also had space banshees, phantoms, spirits, perhaps even liches and vampires for fighter to fighter combat too. Just sayin'.
Somerton liches were not a thing at the time and I guess you could count vampires... kindov
It depends on time and such but at the time of being liches we're not a thing and phantoms we're not armed for space engagement like they are in halo 4 and so on
There was Phantom Gunboats at the time.
The Gaming Snake Gunboat Phantoms with frontal shielding against fighters. Vampires? Maybe not suited for space dogfighting but if it were, maybe?
If escorts stayed close then elite rangers would just start boarding
Halo 3 reference.
Elite: Republic ships, staggered line. Shipmaster! their fighters outnumber us 4 to 1!
Shipmaster: Then it is an even fight.
😂😂😂😂
Far from it. Power scale is too high in Star Wars. Unless you bring in forerunners.
@@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy the power scale in Star-Wars doesn't get any higher than Halo until you get to Jedi/force-sensitives and the Death Star.
@@lucaswinsor4469
I'm talking about ships. Those numbers in cannon are still a little high even tho they've been nerfed from legends.
Covenant tech is extremely powerful. Although it was just a cinematic trailer, the shields of a super carrier withstood a nuclear blast from the inside (before finally failing due to the ship itself being destroyed). I don't think the Republic would stand a chance in a Ship to ship fight either. Troop battles would be a different story.
The Empire would do a lot better
Would it though. I mean the covenant has lots of artillery and soldiers of several species in their ranks. I think they still might beat the republic, but it would be close.
I think it’s because of how fucking big the super carrier is and the redundancy it probably had as although that doesn’t mean its invincible
@@brucejedilee5290 No, the Empire would not do much better to the point where it would matter. The Covenant has twice the amount of Ket-Battlecruisers than the Empire has Star Destroyers. The Battlecruisers are also superior in almost every way to a Star Destroyer. The only thing that the Empire has that would give them a chance is the Death Star.
Troop Battles wouldn't be that much of a different story. If you're including Jedi and Sith, then the battle is probably even. If you're not, which is most of the time the case, then Star Wars is gonna get steamrolled. Also, I just want to say that Jedi and Sith wouldn't be very powerful against Halo, specifically the UNSC, because their lightsabers won't be very effective in blocking projectiles. Lightsabers would be able to absorb or reflect Covenant plasma fire, but bullets from the UNSC would go straight through. The bullets aren't inside of the lightsaber for nearly as long as required for them to start melting. The bullet's temperature would just go up ten degrees at most, and continue on to strike a hole straight through the force user. I also can't see any sith or jedi other than Sidious and Dooku (because of force lightning) not be easily defeated by a spartan fire team. The only real thing the jedi or sith could do would be to dodge bullets and force choke. Neither of those would work though, because the average jedi/sith can only force choke one at a time, and dodging would be completely ineffective due to Spartan's near instant reaction speed. I would think that even a Spartan IV fireteam is enough to kill almost every sith and jedi.
"Brute ships staggerd line, ship master they out number us 3 to 1" "then it is an even fight" "all ships fire at will" burn their mongrel hides"
Why is everyone firing at Will?
@@supressorgrid Will is actually a brute
More not so well known ships:
Kaloth class Armored cruiser vs Kyramud Mandalorian battleship. Very intresting match.
No one ever give the republic its y-wings
Sir Aroun exactly
Not that it would have really mattered, as the covenant DOES have large numbers of laser point defense, and rather strong shielding
@@Fyrebird721 you’re right
You forgot CSO carriers there were two protecting the fleet and you forgot phantoms and banchees
Also, Covenant ships dont typically miss, as they use particle beams and guided plasma torpedoes which dont miss either. Star Wars capital ships aren't know for their weapons having high accuracy and they just tend to saturate an area with fire hoping to cause damage to enemy fleets and ships, this is very ineffective, especially since the Covenant ships can engage with their primary weapons at distances greater than 100,000 kilometers and still score first round kills.
Equinsu Ocha but the guided cove net weapons were disrupted by a magnetic Feild and in starwars magnetic fields are used in every thing in mean the airlocks in starwars were held together by a magnetic fields so all the plasma toros would be completely useless
The venator can hit targets accurately from 10light minutes away 111769438 miles
The problem with many of these sci-fi universes is that weapon ranges are not consistent across their respective lore.
@@stephenkenney8290 yeah, because when you look at the movies of Star Wars it will show ships not being in range when the targets like only few 100km away but in the books or comic it will show the ships having 1000s of km of range
Wait, are you Canadian?
+Mx12b sure am
EckhartsLadder figured you where either from Michigan or Minnesota or Canada based on how you said sorry
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Adam Downes Was that a joke? I won't assume anything
Wtf I didn't know people liked my comment, lol
George lucus: “THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS, ITS UNFAIR!”
*TAU EMPIRE VS THE COVENANT*
ANGRY MARINE not angry enough
*YOU FUCKING IDIOT, THAT'S NOT ANGRY ENOUGH!!!!!11*
imperium wins everytime
FA THA GRTTER GUD!
ANGRY MARINE W40k have shitty space travel. They are going to be out maneuvered in every engagement.
Cant believe how some people actually forget the actual size of high charity's defense fleet, though we really don't know the actual amount of CSO carriers that escorted high charity i would at most say there would be 4-6 at the very least the rest of the carriers would either be the CAS class or dds class carriers. The rest of the covenant fleet would be composed of massive amounts of CCS cruisers, CPV destroyers, quite a few frigates and corvettes hell there might be a few of those covenant super cruisers or sniper ships if you wanna call them that and don't get me started on High Charity's defenses on the station and the Forerunner dreadnought that could be launched and used on the republic. Forgot to the mention that Covenant carriers can launch massive amounts of seraphs banshees and phantom gunboats along with covenant boarding crafts aka ticks that could board a republic warship and destroy or use it against the enemy. Another point is you have severely under estimated the power of covenant shielding and weaponry because their point defense systems was point on accurate in destroying human fighters hell the pulse lasers could even penetrate a Venators armor with ease if given enough time, not to mention that covenant plasma torpedoes have devastating effect on other warships and 3 could easily disable or even destroy a Venator. lastly the sniper ships if the covenant have a few with them are more then capable then destroy the republic defense fleet while at extreme distance, In the Halo book Fall Of Reach this ship meaninglessly destroyed 50 unsc ships with i believe was one shot and turned the tide of the battle for the covenant which allowed them to turn their weapons on the ODP guns to allow there forces free reign on reach. i get it that you wanted a fair fight for both but you cant leave out some of the critical factors on the covenant Defense fleet that allowed them to be a menacing foe.
P.S this comment is not meant to hate on eck i actually love his content but i cant just stand by and watch my favorite factions true power cut down
Humanity ships are weak as fuck...major battle with ONE planet civilization give them horrible loses, now do you want vs Earth of the galaxy?
*Star Wars* crushes there, Disney or Legends, doesn't matter.
@@WadcaWymiaru but we are talking about the home base of a bunch of religious fanatics dedicated to travel the great journey, not reach, not even earth would survive if high charity and the fleets surrounding it woud slipspace nearby, and odds are, they wont lose a significant amount unless humanity got really lucky and placed something like a slipspace bomb or a nuke on a ship or something, but even then, that'd be close to impossible considering how many other ships there are, the only reason high charity and the surrounding fleets were lost, was because of the flood
But even then, not much can counter the flood, actually, the flood were one of the main reasons why the covenant lost, the other being Masterchief as well as the great schism, so saying they had major losses to humanity is kind of downplaying the covenant
@@areallymeanperson
1. Humanity is really WEAK! Someone calculated that standard MAC is like ~65 kt. Star Wars Turblasers are mostly ~50 Mt, firing 2-3 shots PER SECOND. (movie, Falcon hit)
Additionally if I WAS the UNSC commander i would build...10 000 DEATH STARS during the 27 years war with Covies. UNLIMITED resources from asteroides&moons+infinite energy from the SUN! Add the endless manpower from the AI alone, even if Earth manpower was in billions, fuck even USA alone should be able to do that! Start with 44 million tons and use equation for growth or power to two 27 times.
2. Covenant engaged CONSIDERBLE forces for just battling the Earth with like ~300 ODPs. And they didn't overpower them without suicidal rides.
A ONE fucking planet...how many planets Star Wars have?
How many shipyards? How many *Star Destroyers?*
@@WadcaWymiaru Earth was actually a victory for the Covenant at first lol... Earth only managed to do so much damage because they had such a massive group of orbital platforms and a large home defence fleet.
Other human planets quickly fell and most UNSC ships were felled extremely fast by the convenant fleets.
Your whole Turbolaser 50GT or whatever is bullshit they do nowhere near enough damage for said claim. If anything they're 50MT, but nowhere near 50GT
@@WadcaWymiaru You also act as if death stars are cost efficient and easy to build so obviously you know nothing.
The Covenant also launch huge waves of boarding parties as well. Also factor in that the Covenant are extremely tenacious, and retreat is heavily frowned upon.
Clones are the best of the best, they'd be entering a hornet's nest.
Xenomorph VS Star wars
Era: After the Clone wars
SID star wars
Thats a stupid battle lol
Better Predator vs Sangheili
That could be very cool.
DEADPOOLXI That sounds awesome
In halo 3 have you seen wat that elite did with his sized fleet against the clearly out numbering covenant fleet
The covenant put a heavy focus on ship infiltration as well, meaning that infintry battles will also play a part in the fight, clone armor is meant to resist blaster fire, which is plasma, but not plasma like the covenant carries, its more of a goo like plasma that sticks to the surface and briefly melts it, which i think will go through clone armor, at least the thinner plates, and the elites energy shield would probobly be more effective at resisting blaster fire. If it is the fleet from halo 2 then there would be significantly more brutes with the same shielding technology (brutes are particularly deadly and i think one could take out around 20 standard clones), and with the average amount of brutes sent in with the other units, they would probably be able to capture a ship from the inside. Just something else for the statistics
ShadowMatrix85
Energy swords, fuel rod guns, and needlers. Active camo, hunters, and personal shields. I don’t think brute force is the best way for the republic to take out boarding parties, unless they’ve got Jedi and all the heavy weapons at the ready.
Somebody better make a video of an animation of the pre-halo destruction covenant vs starwars
Halo plasma is unstable but a lot more powerful. Star Wars plasma is stable but weaker. In all honesty, Halo plasma is the way to go unless you are fighting Chris Kyle, Vasily Zaytsev, or H2 Legendary Jackle snipers, because they could hit the plasma container on the gun and cause a big explosion, while Star Wars blaster packs would do little more than a plasma pistol shot if they explode
Oh yeah the Covenant Ranger units were known to the UNSC as ship killers, they were feared for good reason. Covenant just couldn't resist getting up close and personal even while massive ships are blowing each other up
Halo plasma is NOT like a damn goo. That "hAlO iNfInItE" bullshit where plasma leaves a stupid splat is NOT Halo plasma. Halo plasma is as Halo Reach shows it. A bolt of sizzling electric ionized gas that explodes on and vaporizes anything it hits. When the books described plasma as "splashing" over targets it fucking meant as fire. Fire splashing rolling over shit. 😐😐😐😐 How fucking stupid can people be
Warhound titan vs Covenant scarab
Probably an even 50/50 split. The titan is more mobile and has great fire power, but is limited in the fact that it would still need to concentrate it's fire for a while to get it anywhere, where a scarab would likely be able to finish a titan in one or two blows from it's main gun.
However the mobility of the titan would give it the edge to move out of range of it's main gun in similar fashion as the Scarab and AT-AT battle. If it got out of range of the scarab's initial blast then it has a really good chance, but if it gets hit before then then it's likely a game over for the titan.
warhammer 40k has better lore therefor it's inherently going to win
Jaegen Ashbrook Warhound with intact void shields can survive a straight shot from a Volcano Canon,which can vaporize several dozen meters of metal in a single shot,which is arguably enough to destroy a Scarab. Scarab can't nearly dish out this much damage.Scarabs were disabled(beyond field repair capability) by Mark 2 MAC's,which are nearly not as powerful as 40K guns. Scarab's gun has range of about 650 meters. Warhound can outrange any non-superheavy tank in 40k,which gives it a range of at least several kilometers,but that depends a lot on a weapons layout. And warhound is actually slower,with 58kph on road and42 kph offroad vs scarab's 76kph. It might be smaller and slower,but it is more protected and has at least comparable weaponry with superior range. Despite its smaller size,it has more than enough firepower to destroy
the scarab doesnt use steel, it uses a material many times toughest than titanium allows with tungstun
Well I think it's safe to say that the republic fleet still would've incoluded hundreds of Arquitens, consulars and acclamators as well.
But the High Charity defense fleet had at least 2 CSO class supercarriers (which are basically the Halo equivalent of the death star). So I think the outcome is still the same.
@@elmateo77 the Republic fleet had The Pride of the Core which was a Dreadnought roughly the size of a CSO and probably had other smaller Dreadnaughts
@@josesanchezrodriguez1783 A CSO is 29km in length whereas the Pride of the Core was a Mandator II class, with a length of 8km. So a CSO is 3.6x the length, and assuming other dimensions and density are similar that puts it at about 45-50x the mass. It's difficult to compare power levels between ships in different universes (especially since there's so much contradicting info about star wars, and most of the power output numbers don't line up with the results we see from their weapons), but the CSO is definitely a much larger ship.
@@elmateo77 Oh right, I assumed it was the size of the Executor
@@elmateo77 I still wouldn't consider it to be a DS analogue since the DS dwarfs it by a lot and outguns it heavily.
Imagine what the shock troopers on the ground were dealing with on the ground battle during the battle of couracant.
Well we know how Captain Fordo rocked.
Still waiting on that mantles approach vs executor video.
Gary The Almighty so hard to find info on the ship. But right now I think it'd go against the eclipse or the death star, rather than the SSD.
NoEyedFSH! Thatd end it in a second since you cant shield from it
The mantles approach is the size of high charity it is ridiculously huge
The mantles approach is just way to big to fight anything it is 371 KM tall
+EckhartsLadder A keyship could just ram the death star and push it into a nearby planet. Problem solved. Also, Book forerunners >Infinity> Game forerunners.
To be quite honest, it seems there are very few factions in sci fi that could stand up to the force of the covenant. They were kind of designed to be that way
I think the critical flaw in the battle is that the Covenent were able to shoot down Venators before they launched their fighters. We actually have similar fights during WW2, were you had Carriers vs Battle Ships. Spoiler Alert: Carriers won by a mile. There was never a single battle where a battle ship was in range of a Carrier, as it simply made no sense. Carriers stay back and let their fighters do the fighting.
Putting BattleShip like warships in range of Carriers mitigates their biggest weakness and exploits the carriers biggest weakness. In real war, the ships start out of range.
But what if those battleships have point defense that basically renders fighters useless, also shielding and hull plating more then capable of tanking small fighter shots?
Raving Rando nice one
In atmosphere maybe, but the range of weapons in space, especially light based weapons, would effectively be infinite.
Covenant Supercarriers had this long range super lasers
Gregthegamer light cannot be a weapon as it's caused by photons which are massless so the couldn't harm anything but yes weapon range would be infinite except gravity from nearby planets would suck the weapons in
100% agree. Covenant plasma will be very effective against un-shielded ships. In halo the fall of reach it says that the plasma cut through a few meters of Titanium A battle-plate like a butter knife. Which is crazy especially if you include the ships with the straight laser plasma.
Lets not forget the two CSO supercarriers that were about 29 km in length.
Executor and accompanying fleet seen in Revenge of the Sith vs Infinity and accompanying fleet seen in Halo 4's intro
The executor did not exist in the revenge of the sith.
SilentSplashGaming Sorry, meant Empire Strikes Back... No idea how I got that mixed up
Fire the MACS on the exposed bridge of the executor, then finally the escorts. Easy
@@tsarbombawithinternetconne875
The shields are too strong.
if we are talking comics executor the unsc will never be able to take that thing down
the fleet of of homogenous justice numbered in the thousands on ships, and had more than just 2 types of ships, and with fighters, most ships would have twice as many banshees as they do Seraphs give or take, but the real game changer in reality, the fleet of homogenous justice has multiple CSO class super carriers, these ships dwarf even the assault carriers in every way, now I’m not an expert on the Star Wars side but the raw firepower a CSO Carrier has is tremendous, a lot of very big guns, a lot of ships and a lot of fighters, to put it into perspective, one CSO class ship alone is enough to wipe entire armies without a scratch just take the fall of reach into account, 1 of those ships was enough to take on an entire planet of ships and carried enough to bring an invasion force on its own (I know the long night of solace was destroyed but not by conventional means so I don’t count it) so opinionated the full magnitude of the fleets protecting high charity would mop the floor with the Star Wars fleet that was presented
Since the Venator doesn't use a rack system to store its fighters, you might be able to do a substitution of Eta-2s for ARC-170s based on their landing footprints (i.e. how much space they'd take up when docked in the hangar). I doubt it'd make that much of a difference in the outcome, but it would probably result in a more even matchup without having to resort to Legends' absurd power figures.
They could also try to modify the hangars to hold more of them
Although they would also have to hold Y-wings to provide more than just fighter screen
if your going to do more star wars star ship vs i've got an idea Providence class command ship smaller version vs the MC80 Home one type Cruiser.
Just imagine how crazy it would be to see the covenant glass a world like corascant? It would be like watching new Alexandria on reach but on crazy steroids.
Hmm it'd be pretty unlikely.
They would never be able to. Star Wars ships are too powerful.
I really feel like you underestimate the venators in each video.
No, the covenant is just to damn powerful
Centurion class Battlecruiser vs Harrower class Dreadnaught
The technology of the Covenant, not to mention the Forerunner, are far more powerful than the tech in Star Wars. The empire had 35,000 Star Destroyers but a Super Assault Carrier would easily dispatch several SDs at once. Lasers vs super heated plasma; plasma wins easily.
All of that Covenant might had problem with one-planet civilization...humans :\
The cannon number of starships in the Imperial fleet 20,000 if I remember correctly, which is most likely much larger than the Republic's navy as they Republic was far less militaristic. Remember that there were (if I remember correctly) only 12 million clones made, so a fleet of 10,000 ships would have 1200 clones on every ship. Which is a lot, but nowhere near the capacity of them (they are designed for landing huge armies, not just naval battles), and it would mean there were no other clones anywhere else in the galaxy. Which we know isn't true. Plus it involves EVERY clone produced on Kamino. Which is far and away not the number that would actually be there. Many were dead, or on other worlds, or on the ground. The Covenant has the same number of capital ships, and theirs are specifically designed for ship to ship combat. And the High Charity fleet specifically doesn't number in the hundreds, it's several thousand so far as we understand. So the Covenant would be a serious threat to the entire Galactic Empire.
It’d be cool to imagine the effects of covenant boarding craft too.
CYBERMEN INVASION (STARTING ON CORUSCANT) VS REPUBLIC
1 dilak vs anybody
Dalek, Sean Rea.
thanks, the idea stands 1 Dalek vs anybody
As long as the anybody isn't the Doctor.
Also I've been curious to cyber men vs the borg.
I had a dream that the covenant wage war on the multiverse I woke up and man what a movie or video game that would be.
5 American M1a2 "Abrams" tanks vs 1 AT-AT or AT-TE
Hah. That's not even fair. The AT-AT would destroy them. The AT-TE I could see making a fair fight.
Daenon Janis oh, it's not fair alright. To the AT-AT. All the Abrams have to do is get to the sides and rear of it, and there you go. And the Abrams can definitely do that.
I am not sure if the Abrams can even damage the AT-AT.
Its more fair if its 5 AT-ATs vs 1 Baneblade .. i mean this tank has like 10 guns 1 of which is MASSIVE
Don't Censor I'm pretty sure Abrams are more maneuverable
I know I'm 4 years late, but why didn't you compare the fleet guarding high charity to the one that destroyed reach? In halo 2 the initial fleet that attacked earth contained 15 ships, and according to lord hood the fleet that destroyed reach was 50 times larger, meaning around 750 ships attacked reach. Considering cortana saw that fleet firsthan and was still stunned by the size of the fleet protecting high charity we can assume it to be significantly larger, probably over 1000 ships.
Sith imperial armada which attacked koriban (swtor. the beginn of the great galatic war) vs The mandolorian blockade (against the old Republic)
The covenant would win because of the shields and paint so yeah
this fight is over bec some reason the venetors forgot about their silver bullet
I don't think you gave the Republic as much size as it would have in battle IF we are using the Coruscant Defense Fleet (CDF). The CDF is going to be substantially larger than the Covenant High Charity Escort Fleet (HCEF) because it is defending an entire planet that is the center for all political matters of the Republic as well as the home of the Jedi Order. Given that the Jedi command a lot of the clone armies they prove a significant factor in the need for the defense of Coruscant. Also, the CDF fights a much larger magnitude of ships than the HCEF as the droid fleet is HUGE.
It should also be taken into account the type of fighting each fleet is accustomed to. The HCEF fights the UNSC so it is very focused on destroying capital ship fleets, it is not accustomed to fighting swarm fleets. In the Star Wars Universe the naval fights are pretty much all swarm fights. Massive amounts of capital ships and fighter vs massive amounts of capital ships and fighters. I don't think you gave the CDF the numbers it would normally have. You said it yourself you took the CDF fleet as it existed after the sneak attack, so the CDF force you presented against the HCEF was not as large as it normally would have been.
I say it would be a very close match between the fleets because the HCEF has much more killing power against the weaker CDF. But, the normal CDF is probably much larger than you proposed so it would have swarmed the UCEF. The UCEF, being accustomed to capital ship combat, would have no problem killing off the Venators but would have a lot of trouble eliminating the sheer mass of fighter. Also, most CDF ships would be able to deploy most of their fighters because, if the CDF is larger than you proposed, the UCEF would simply not be able to kill enough Venators fast enough to prevent the deployment of fighters given the UCEF only has 900 capital ships capable of quickly killing other capital ships trying to quickly elimate a multi-thousand capital ship fleet.
+Sasper
"The CDF is going to be substantially larger than the Covenant High Charity Escort Fleet (HCEF) because it is defending an entire planet that is the center for all political matters of the Republic as well as the home of the Jedi Order."
Likely not the entire planet, as SWTCWs has basically shown that space battles for planets ONLY happen over Space Routes. Meaning the fleet we see in Ep III is if anything smaller then what he gave them.
I will say he both nerfed and made the HCEF more powerful at the same time though. He made them more powerful by giving them 200 CAS-class ships, the smaller Venators are going to have the worst time trying to down those things. However he removed other ships such as the Covenant Battle ships, CPV-class heavy destroyers, ORS-class heavy cruisers, DDS-carriers as well as the mighty CSO-class super carriers which the fleet did have a few of if I recall correctly.
Munificent Class light friget
AGAINST
Acclemator Class assault Ship
i love how you played Home by resonance as the ending song. great video man keep it up! :)
I wish the unsc had destroyed the fleet and the holy city with two novabomb
Yes!!! I was rooting for the covenant lol
You forgot about the Banshees, Phantoms, and the covenant Super Carrier. There would be millions of banshees and probably a million phantoms. The Republic wouldn’t stand a chance.
In the Halo Universe battles happen over entire star systems. In Starwars ship battles happen in a small area. Covenant would snipe the star wars fleet from so far away, they wouldn't know what's happening to them.
Admiral Cole's Last Stand
sigh. okay you got me. can't argue with that. seems even Halo isn't consistent :D
Not sure what you mean, an example of HALO ship battles taking place over entire solar systems is Cole's Last Stand.
Wasn't that the battle where they used the repair station as a shield? With all the human ships close to each other?
That was Reach.
Cole' Last Stand is when Cole caused a star to collapse.
Something to keep in mind, the fleet around the unyielding hierophant was compromised of 500 ships. By Cortana's words, the fleet around high charity was even larger than that
Venator class star destroyer vs MC40a
3:40 Bro got the fall of reach handy like a bible in church 💀
To me one big question you didn't cover is how long does the Republic fleet have to scramble fighters before the Covenant fleet reaches weapon range compared to how long it takes the Venator to deploy its compliment. They'll probably lose some fighters before launch sure but I don't think they'll lose more then half their fighter strength prior to deployment.
You're forgetting the Covenant supercarriers. At least one was present at Reach. Roughly 20km long.
And WEAK humanity was able to destroy them :\
Those dudes dont have engines that create portals when misaligned.
@@WadcaWymiaru With a SLIPSPACE BOMB you idiot.
@@LuisSilva-rai
Spit on someone DIFFERENT...idiot.
As the Clone Wars progressed, more and more ground-based legions found themselves pressed into space combat, including the fighting forces of the 501st. For months, every hour of our downtime was spent in the simulator, preparing for the time we would face our enemies from the cockpit of a 170. Finally the day came to earn our wings. The CIS had staged a daring kidnapping of Chancellor Palpatine, and was being escorted from Coruscant by a fleet of Separatist ships. With only a few veteran pilots on-planet, many of the 501st were pressed into service to drive off the Seps, and buy time for a pair of Jedi Knights to rescue the Chancellor.
After disabling the final capital ship, General Kenobi and Skywalker took advantage of the opportunity we'd created and rescued the Chancellor. Took all the credit, too.
I just couldn't stop thinking about covenant point-defense lasers.
There's one point i'd like to make about how you square up these fights.
In both Halo and Star Wars they do this so it only makes sense to do it too.
When there is a fleet battle, unless a fleet has arrived by surprise and immediately attacks, then battles start after a short match up.
Take almost every space battle in the clone wars animated series. They jump in. Quickly discuss their plan and get into formation - then the battle begins.
Take the battle of Earth in Halo. The covies jump in. They line up outside the array and come up with a plan. Human fleet does the same - then the battle begins.
When you do these battles, i'd like to hear that bit and THEN the battle. For example, whilst i agree on this outcome almost completely (completely enough that there's no point me talking about it), assuming that they start in range of each other is a bit strange.
In my mind this battle is a case of both fleets going to the same location at the same time and bumping into each other and immediately going "OH SHIT ATTACK". The whole point of these videos is to be a fair matchup and whilst that is fair, a truly fair matchup is more like they both agree to go there and then jump in. That way you get the whole lining up and planning of their attack before the battle starts.
So,
Covies and republic jump in.
Republic see a large number of very large ships, and decide it's best to get some fighter cover. They don't want to show off all their fighters at once so the first half of ships deploy fighters, the second half deploy 1/4 of theirs. The fighters form a screen.
Covenant see a huge plume of fighters and decide that their fighters and going to be in trouble if they send them out. They deploy all their fighters but keep close where the point defences can help them.
Both fleets engage.
Republic sends in the fighters they've deployed and focus fire on one ship at a time.
Covies move in but maintain distance, forcing the republic to either bring their fighters back or keep pushing.
Republic being losing ships rapidly to superior firepower, so deploy the rest of their fighters and move in with them.
The battle becomes a huge brawl, the fighter numbers on both sides have dropped massively, both would have very few left if the republic hadn't kept any back.
Some Venators have the SPHA(i think that's right?) laser and use it as they can, though energy projectors are also proving lethal.
When the battle is finally over, a hundred or so ships are left, heavily damaged carriers and crippled cruisers.
I still think the superior firepower of the Covenant ships and their energy projectors would shine in such a brawl. I don't think the numbers of fighters the republic have could both destroy enough ships and destroy enough fighters. It's just too much to achieve at once when there's shielded fighters all over you.
I apologize for not remembering we're I saw it but there were 9 CSO class super carriers in the high charity fleet
I think a Covenant fleet of just about any side will dominate most engagements throughout sci fi, with one exception: EVE Online. EVE ships and their capsuleer pilots are incredibly potent. Not only do they have on-board active self-repair and shield boost functionality (these are ships that can repair a lot of damage done to them almost instantly after the damage is caused, or boost their shields back up to strength after taking heavy fire), the capsuleers themselves are 'immortal', or rather, when they die, their consciousness is transferred to a new clone. Additionally, capsuleer's are pretty much a ship's only crew member. Some larger ships might have support crews but for the purpose of primary ship functionality, one capsuleer commands anything from his or her pod by means of a direct neural link. Basically, a ship becomes an extension of a capsuleer's thoughts. Capsuleer thinks 'warp', the ship warps. 'Fire', the ship fires. This removes the delay between giving a command, and having a crew react to that command. It also removes any chance of individual crew members hesitating or refusing to follow orders. Capsuleer thinks it, ship does it.This includes command of a wide array of ships including frigates, destroyers, cruisers, battlecruisers, battleships, and array of capitals like dreadnoughts, carriers, super carriers, and of course, the mighty 15+km long titans. You should look into it.
wait... this battle starts with the republic either getting jumped or led by a chromosome collector... You don't start launching fighters once you're in range... especially not if ALL their ships are bigger then your own. You're starting a sword wielder vs a bow wielder at melee. You're going aircraft carrier vs battleship starting at 500 yards... also, where is the prominent Y-wing? It played a huge role in capital ship fights...
Roland Salzmann yeah the y wing would do serious damage to all the covalent ships
Except it's the Covenant who has the English Long bows here. Their Energy Projectors vastly outrange the Venator's Turbo Lasers and the unshielded Republic fighters pose no threat to the HEAVILY shielded Covenant capitol ships and their AI targeted pulse laser point defense networks.
Starfighters would be more effective vs large ships, but seraph fighters would be more effective vs fighters. Covenant shield technology is superior and every last seraph fighter had shields. A single seraph fighter was worth multiple longsword UNSC fighters in comparison. Which is see you mentioned.
I do think that saying the venators would only be able to launch half their fighters is incredibly generous to the covies, but I ALSO think the starfighter's practicality vs the large covenant ships would be incredibly limited. Covenant ships are just so massive that it is almost impossible to hit a critical system deep within the ship with anything less than massive firepower from a capital ship.
The Coruscant Defense Fleet wasn't designed to fight alone but in consonance with the defense systems of Coruscant which are very formidable, without even including force wielders.
Do titanfall2 imc vs cis starwars
As much as I have enjoyed this video you needed to factor in that 1 covenant ships had more shielding power than a single venator class ship as covenant ships were built from forerunner tech that would have given them a massive advantage over the republic ships, it would normally take over 10 normal UNSC ships to destroy a single covenant cruiser so in perspective of the republics battle it would have been at least 5 ships per covenant cruiser ,then you have the gigantic super carriers that the covenant used for not only being a mainline assault carrier but to also hold a huge number of scarab tanks in its hold would give these carriers a deadly advantage if they used the tanks to board the republic ships and to plasma burn it from the hull of these ships, plus you forgot that the covenant also used the covenant boarding ships to board and overrun ships with covenant boarding parties consisting of elites,grunts,hunters and jackals and maybe even brutes too, plus their maybe a factor that the covenant used space versions of banshees to even the odds with the republics starfighters, and it would take at least 100 republic ships to destroy 1 of these massive super carriers and avoiding its belly where the carriers use its glassing weapon to glass ships in orbit and in space, the covenant cruisers would have an massive advantage if the republic fleet mingles with the covenant fleet as they will be able to glass the ships in space but if the republic used this to their advantage they would be able to stay away from the powerful glassing beams that you would normally see with a battle between a covenant ship and its opposing teams ship at close range, the only disadvantage the republic have is a successful boarding party, because by the time the ships main hanger opens up it would become a major weak spot for the ship and covenant seraphs would be able to bomb the hanger with ease, destroying the ship along with it. you also have to think about the covenants active camo that they can use when a ship needs to be repaired or can be used to appear right on the republics fleet and slaughter half of the republics fleet before they could respond in time to attack the once invisible covenant fleet, the only ships that the covenant can't go into active camo is its fighters. or though if you had to factor in the jedi master obi one kenobi and anakin skywalker would have made it easier for them to deal with covenant boarding parties with ease as long as they don't face a corridor full of active came energy sword wielding elites
To quote a Halo vs Mass Effect video I once saw....
"Elite: I'mma firing ma lassssssseeeeeeer!"
there is no way a venator has more fighters than a bloody cas. The CAS is 5x larger than a venator
+asaeampan A ship 5 times larger with the name "Carrier" is going to carry more fighters, its just common sense, which I'm afraid you don't have.
Rulingmoss 55 covenant would be unstoppable if elites would be the only ones in charge.
Its more of a battleship than a carrier though. The CAS actually sacrifices Fighters for Firepower. The word Carrier is a bit misleading here, but to be fair, just because its a carrier it doesnt mean that it carries a lot. A Battleship which carries 1 Fighter can also be considered a Carrier^^
asaeampan no you
The executor is 19 kilometers long yet it can only field around 1000 fighters
no banshees nice job leaving em out
I'd say the republic had 810 venator class ships in total, just looking at the canon numbers
there was 200000 clones ready at the battle of geonosis split into acclamator ships of 16000 troop and 700 crew we therefore get around 12 ships ready at that time. The rest of the 6million clones became active as the war progressed. If we divide this by the crew and troop complements of the more widely used Venator class star destroyer (7400) we can work out the minimum amount of ships)
This fits perfectly with what we see in the clone wars tv show as most battles only have 3 venators such as Ryloth and many others even the attack on christophis only had 3 venator against maybe 30 or so separatists ships. The raid on kamino only saw a battle of far less than 100 ships ,both fleets combined.
In the complete locations book you see a hologram of the fleet and the path the Jedi took to grievous ship and you can see the scale is far less than multiple thousands of ships. Granted not all the ships may be shown or others are destroyed already but still I’d say it only looks like hundreds not thousands of ships.
Do you think I’m right or wrong? Good video though :) thanks for doing it
Galactic Empire vs the Covenant
Lavafire1 hey the fleet that destroy Reach was 100 ships and it was a small one..
California Brotherhood lol the empire had around 24,000 imperial 1 and 2 class star destroyers with multiple different classes of star dreadnoughts the most notable being the Executor class
No match, the Empire would shit on the Covenant
Empire has Thrawn, who can outmanuver anything the convenant has
this isnt even a fight the empire is like10 times the size of the covenant and has more then double the amount of super weapons
"Brute ships, staggered line! Shipmaster, they outnumber us 3-1!"
"Then it is an even fight."
Later that day:
"The brute fleet lies in ruin..."
Yeah if we have elites still in the covenant during this battle they win. xD
this was taken pre-skysim
I want to see a battle between a flood infected ship stumbling upon sera from gears of war if it had been taken over by the locust horde who would win the flood or the locust hollow
* cog never existed meaning the locusts still have Raam skorge and queen myrrah
But with the hammer of dawn **
Big Chris H Victory would go to the flood. The instant the flood sets down sera is doomed. Spores would be in the air, infecting all it can. Spores are an airborne virus. You cant fight air. Not to mention infectious forms. They infect anything with a nervous system. With combat forms (much stronger than locust footsoldiers) killing locust by pure overwhelming power and the infectious forms taking the scraps, not to mention the flood picking up locust weapons? Any assault the queen throws at the flood is doomed to be turned against her.
Edit
The UNSC is SO MUCH MORE high tech than sera, and they could barely fight off the flood, and that was WITH John 117.
Any time there is a ship-sized flood infestation already in play, the flood win every single time. They have defeated God-like figures and can use any tech and biomass thrown at them against their opponents. They're written to be conventionally unbeatable.
Big Chris H flood because of the way they infect. Since the locust probably do breathe, the flood spores would be breathed in and the soldier would be fucked. Like what arbiter said, one single flood spore can destroy a species. The locust may be strong, but i believe the flood would kick their ass
Otger factors to consider the location. If the republic were defending a planet they would be at a slight disadvantage as the covenant weapons would have faster travelling bolts as a result of the planet's gravity. There is also the exposed bridge of the republic craft.
You should do a fleet or something smaller from the empire vs Harry Potter
I did not mean just Harry I meant the whole of the world that they are in
+Br076ett gaming Lord Voldermoret would kill them all.
uuuuuuh, spooky! Little kids with wooden sticks and some white noseless pedophile? Imma so scaaaared
+NorthPlayyyer WTF
The empire would completely devastate hog warts with a single fucking star destroyer and the thousands of storm troopers would massacre the students and teachers alike if vaders doesn't do it fast enough
A covenant fleet used a mix of boarding craft, space banshee fighters, seraphs, and space fitted phantoms which use heavy plasma cannons rather than the standard when planet side. Also, high charity made use of forerunner plasma lances more powerfull than the cruiser plasma lances since high charity was powered by forerunner technology.
If we took the entire high charity fleet. ( CSOs included) Vs the entire courosant fleet the republic would get their asses handed to them.
ngl the republic really sucks i mean they got no superweapons and only one SSD
9:39 "With about a hundred thousand capital ships" You mean fighters you silly goose =D
a good drinking game every time he says the word fleet take a shot
You know what I really don't understand. When people say they don't think the venator was made for frontline combat like the imperial star destroyer was. The thing is, the imperial star destroyer WASNT made for frontline combat while the venator WAS. The imperial star destroyer is the equivalent of a M1 Abrams tank. Huge, heavily armored, but relatively simple. It wasn't built during any wars and its simple sleek design reflects that. The Venator is the Sherman tank, not as big, not as armored, but much more complex and useful. The Imperial star destroyer is made to keep systems under it's heel. The Venator is made to dish out heaps of fire power with eight massive turbolaser cannons and also send out massive amounts of force but probably not survive the conflict. The imperial star destroyer isn't a war vehicle, it's a suppression vehicle. It subdues. Ignore legends and the massive amounts of firpower it gives to the imperial star destroyer and think why it would really need it. It doesn't.
Agreed.
Your description of the tanks is literally backwards. An Abrams would shred a Sherman, 10 times out of ten unless the Shermans had a lucky break. The technology really isn't comparable between the two.
Ignacio Troche Martinez ventnators only have 8 dual heavy turbolasers the rest is point defense and fighters. I highly doubt a ventantor Vs a imperial 1 or 2 star destroyer would get raped even unless they managed to fully deploy their fighters. Then ven would win but more than likely the ship itself would be destroyed and the fighters would be all that would be left.
I simply would have given the win to the covenant more heavily, just because in the direct descriptions on Supercarriers it i said "Supercarriers are capable of carrying and deploying entire armies of ground troops and materials, as evidenced during the Battle of Reach, where the supercarrier Long Night of Solace deployed many tens of thousands of troops to the surface of Reach, along with innumerable ground vehicles, weaponry, and towering cloaking spires capable of hiding entire armies from sight, radar, and sensory arrays." this all being done by a single Supercarrier known at the "Long Night of Solace". This combined with the firepower it would take for one ship to conquer a small planet would have given them a larger advantage in my opinion over ALMOST anything the star wars universe can throw at it. For example if you took the same covenant fleet from high charity, and an invasion fleet from the empire of relatively the same size the covenant would likely win due to having multiple super carriers. This meaning that their capacity to put boots on the ground would simply be far higher than that of the empires, not to mention their ground and close air support based weapons comparisons. But overall the fact that the super carriers are just simply too powerful for the empire to deal with considering there would be multiple of them, with frigate, cruiser, and carrier escorts. but that is just my opinion. Thanks for reading this and let me know what you think would happen if the covenant high charity fleet and an empire invasion force of the same size were to meet in space, and attempted to conquer the same planet at the same time.
I can't even begin about how wrong you are.. Seriously.. You did not even consider the fact that Venator class star destroyers are heavily armored and shielded.. Not to mention be store deploy star fighters from a distance.. We have also seen that covvie shields are not very strong to kinetic and high powered energy pulses. Covvie ships are also mainly for planet scale battles such as glossing continents and therefore they do not have a great many point defense batteries like the venators do. I believe that a solid 200 venators could take on high charity and win. A key thing overlooked of the venators is their bombers as well.. Venators have a lot of bombers.. All of which would rip through the covvie fleet...
And once a single CAS' shield is down the Venators take hours trying to down it, just like they did with the Malevolence. Only this time the bigger CAS' shielding goes back on line after a short time.
When going by EU, I agree with you. But when going by Canon, I see no victory for the Republic.
That soarry at the beginning🤣🤣
Shipmaster, they outnumber us 6 to 1 !
Then it is a fair fight.
Every time he says fleet, ship or fighter take a shot
He said Star Wars is on a higher power level than Halo is...totally ignoring that Forerunners harvested whole universes for power, and Covenant used and reverse engineered Forerunner technology.
Sure. Star Wars uses more power.
Legends was created simply because other franchises make the Star Wars franchise look like 3rd graders in a fight with a professional middleweight boxer with zero losses in 30 fights and a 90% ko ratio.
I would say the Covenant fleet would win if there’s no Jedi involved, if there’s jedi involved (which in the battle of Coruscant they were) the Republic would win
Also forgot to mention the venator had a AV7 artillery cannon under their decks which I’m quite sure they would be very useful against other capital ships
I have gone back and watched your old videos, and your mic and video quality have drastically increased. Thanks for making such awesome content!
You also forgot about the thousands of banshee fighters each corvette has, such as in one of the first Halo 4 cutscenes you see fighters pouring out of a super carrier so the republic really stand even less of a chance.....
I'm kinda glad you didn't include the jedi in this and just went in terms of simple firepower. things like Battle Meditation and Jedi-manned starfighters would definitely twist the scales, I think. the Force allows for a lotta wiggle room for crazy bullshit
The Covenants opening plasma salvo would incinerate half the Republic fleet and then the CAS class carriers would be just be sniping the rest from a safe distance while the CCS class battlecruisers engaged them in combat. Let's not forget Sangheili are damned good naval commanders.
One think may help to determine the size of the fleets is the capacity of construction, as only the Kuat Drive Yards 3 main shipyards were capable to build 25.000 Imperial class Star Destroyers along with other smaller vessels, in 13 years since the first order of the kaminoan to build Acclamators and Venators, we can figure out how many of this were built as we have available the cost of all of this capital ships. We can take into account other republican shipyards like Fondor and Rothana. Not like all of them were at Coruscant at once but we can assume probably 1/20 of every available republican vessel was at the battle.
The book say hundreds of super carriers.
There is approximately 1 super carrier for 300 hundred smaller ships (frigates, cruisers, destroyers, carriers).
And at the begging of halo 2 lord Hood say the fleet that attacked Reach was 50 times larger that what attacked earth at that moment. This means 750 warships.
It is also said multiple times in the books that a covenant fleet was comprised of several ships up to thousands of ships.
I can't remember where i red it but a studie gave approximately 10000 ships, this studi took also the ratios of numbers between ships types as well as there formations in the fleet to get this number. And High Charity was also able to defend it self with a lot of glassing beams, pulse laser, torpedo launchers etc
I think if we focus on the larger war between the Republic and the Covenant it would be a much better representation. In several books I read, it appears that while the Covenant fleet was massive, their empire was not as widespread compared to that of the Galactic Republic. To conjure up resources was extremely difficult within the Covenant' s infrastructure. The Rupublic on the other hand would have a much larger pool of ships and resources to throw at the Covenant. Even though High Charity's fleet is massive, in a drawn out conflict, the Republic would win hands down. Plus, in ground combat the Covies would get wrecked by the Clone Army.
The major problem with the Republic army is that it is well known that their weapons have no piercing power. The Covenant on the other hand can take their time because all of their space shuttles have massive amounts of shielding. So much shielding that it is easier to break in and blow them up from the inside then it is to shoot them down. That is unless you have a really big powerful laser, just like the Death Star.
Leaving all the rest, i just want to say it was IMPOSSIBLE for the Star Wars fleet win for this simply reasons:
1: Disparity of Technology. The Covenant are BEYOND whatever the Republic have seen in his entire life (even when they was in war against the Sith Empire) not only for their weapons but even for their shields, league of metals, FTL and energy systems.
The Covenant have a fleet, and an army, organized with, principally, plasma weapons, a weapon who can easily overcharge the shields of their navy and, literally, MELTING anytype of materials, is FAR way more hot than any laser in Star Wars Universe.
Their best warrior are personal energy shield a technology who simply doesn't exist in Star Wars. Don't know if the Shield is capable of stopping a lightsaber but surely he can do very well against the laser of the rifle of the clones, the Republic need at least 30-1 report in battle if they want to win. (Without counting the cloack field and jetpacks)
Owever, returning to the fleet, the Plasma cannons and Lances of jus ONE Supercarrier is more than enough to destroy at least 10 Venators before they start to fire, and even if they do it will doesn't work!
Even against a normal cruiser the weapons of Star Wars have no effects against the Covenants because their ships, like i said, are projected for resisting against Plasma and Particle weapons wich give them an almost invulnerabilty against the Star Wars ships.
It's simply impossible win a fight against the Covenants, they have too much vantages and too much firepower for a fair fight.
And i even don't tell you everything because is too much!
Republic’s Generals are like ‘tactics? What are those? Just have our troops do whatever it’s fine!’
It’s a good thing the Republic doesn’t a finite number of soldiers, if they did then, I don’t think they would be able to conquer even an anthill!
1:05 i like the number 9. is that a username composed of spaces or some invisible characters, or did he just click the "make donation anonymously" checkbox?
I agree with your assessment, but one thing that bothers me though is that you assume the republic would deploy its fighters within range of an enemy fleet. No competent admiral would ever start unit deployment in the middle of a battle unless they were ambushed, and even then the republic will likely attempt to pull back first. The republic would likely stay out of range until they can launch all fighters, it's a likely scenario since the republic seems to value a defensive strategy when it come to their approach to space warfare, so they would wait for an enemy to come to them rather than charge a foe they still don't have any experience fighting.