Lotus and I shared a tent on her last hike, the Zpacks Duplex, but normally she carries a Gossamer Gear The One! A lot of folks had asked for the video so we hope you enjoy!
THANK YOU! We really need more women doing gear lists, and this one was a good one. Some valuable insights and very easy to watch. Loved your laid-back tone. Nice one Lotus. 👌🏻
The backpack doesn't seem comfortable for longer hikes as it sdoeant have stiff back... I would probably add a bit of weight so it's more comfortable and you won't actually feel the difference
i swear you two have like the perfect voice for the way both of you tell your stories and describe things not overly excited but can tell you have passion for it and believe in what you are saying
Just found your channel and Florida Trail videos. What a great job you guys did! I’m a native Floridian and have only section hiked a few parts of the trail in central Florida. I’ve watch several other videos about the trail and I feel that your’s is the best! Thanks for sharing your experience!
I just wanted to say that I copped a nice yoyo as my luxury item for my AT SOBO (hopefully) this year because of you, and so far it's proving to be 63g well spent.
the content is surprisingly inspiring esp. for female hiker. youtube was playing different videos on my phone and this video is like, the way she speaks is comfortable to listen to. half way of this video i think i should subscribe this channel and found out it is jupiterhikes'! (already subscribed)
There was that moment when the two of y'all were heading down the trail in opposite directions, and suddenly you both noticed another hiker with a yo-yo.
Don't know if anyone mentioned it yet, but the headlamp shown at 6:54 is actually the Nitecore NU25, I have the exact same thing. This is easily one of the best lightweight headlamps available, definitely worth checking out. Fully submersible, USB rechargable, night hikable (think wintertime), excellent broadspread true white light setting for reading. Really full featured for just the 52 grams (1.8 oz) weight including the standard headband, or even lighter if you tinker your own attachment system with a shock cord or a clip on. (And no, I am not taking money from Nitecore.)
Cool good presentation, enjoyed you gear review . I like your Jupiter hikes T-shirt I have one in orange 😁 I get more comments of that shirt than anything I own 👍
Thanks for sharing what worked for you. I just got a pair of Topo Ultraventures last week and they are already my favorite pair of shoes ever. Wide toebox like an Altra, but more comfortable for me due o the slight drop and cushioning. I plan to get another pair so I have a clean pair to wear off trail.
I really appreciate all the info in this video! this is exactly where I want to get to, regarding light weight backpacking. I feel very inspired, thank you
The Ultraventures are great, especially since Topo started using Vibram outsoles. More tapered midfoot than Altra, plus a little drop while retaining the wider toe box. The Terraventure 2's are nice for off trail terrain. Looks like the GG Nighlight fits better in the newer Pa'lante's. Thanks for the video, y'all.
What about a shelter...?! I love learning more about ultralight and I try to buy as mostly light as I can (850 down Big Agnes sleeping bag to save weight) but can’t fathom how someone travels without something as simple as an ace bandage for a sprained ankle or at least an extra pen. Or nail clippers! I guess it all depends on the location of the trail, duration of the trip and re-supply points. I wish I could drop the weight of a bear canister in some areas but I get it. Very cool ideas, nonetheless and I enjoyed seeing a female perspective. Maybe I’ll do a backpacking load out gear video. We need more!
Hey! Forgot to mention the shelter in the vid, but she uses a gossamergear the one when alone, and we shared a zpacks duplex when hiking together. As for the other stuff, generally on most of these long trails we aren't too far from a town so nail clippers for instance are on a buy as we need basis. Same goes for medical stuff, Advil is often enough to get to town, from there we can get more serious help, supplies, or an out back home. Some things like an ace bandage could probably be improvised with a shirt, bandana, or something of the like. Having broken a foot on trail in 2018, and sprained an ankle in 2012 I still don't find the need to carry one myself but would never fault anyone for wanting to have that safety net to aid in getting to the next town. Cheers! I'm glad you enjoyed the video
found the gossamer packs incredibly uncomfortable no matter how it was packed; until i slipped a thin, flexible pvc cuttingboard (ca. 8x12") inside the pack facing the back… this increases the weight only by about 1,5 oz but increases the comfort tremendously. Thoughts anyone?
that was my first thought no tent or tarp or hammock no way for long distance hiking but if you share it is an other storie I hiked long distance women alone ultralight when it did not exist with a light tarp when nobody did it but got to have a shelter now in my 70 with a painful knee and surgery will get hammock
I'd love to backpack in shorts but idk how people do it. I'm not skinny enough. I have to wear lightweight trail pants or capris. Also I burn easy so less sunscreen. Also I'm team inflatable pillow haha
I carry this yo-yo so Jupiter doesn’t have to yo-yo alone! 💙 Great job on the video. Easy to understand, and beautiful scenery. Very helpful breakdown of your gear and weights in the Lotus Gear List in show notes.
Hi Lotus! Loved your vid....I too have the BSR stove, Montbell Versalite rain jacket and Montbell baselayer shirt! I also LOVE merino. Got a question for you....what do you sit on during breaks? Looks like your pad stays in your bag all the time, so clean! And you don't use any kind of air pad? So light, so jelly... I tried the Palante but couldn't get it to work with a z-lite pad and would never get it to work with a bear can. Hoping to get out to the Sierra for some cross country stuff or just ANYWHERE really. Did get 500+/- done on the Hayduke before all the NPs closed. Hope u r hangin in there and get to do eat PCT miles soon. ~Sunkist~
Sunkist! Love following your adventures. On breaks I either sit on my pack, a rock, or the ground. Sit pads are nice, but I didn't really miss it when it was gone. The air pads kept popping on me and I was much happier when I didn't have to deal with that!
She's been wearing it a lot around her place(I would say town, but we haven't been out much) she likes it, no thumb holes is her only complaint. The kuiu fleece I have has no kangaroo pocket which is a bigger complaint
Very well done. Jupiter is granite hard core with that 1/8" carpet pad thing - however, that foam Gossamer Gear short pad well qualifies as plain hard core ! Enjoyed watching the Fla trail hike, the filming was inspiring, as it often is on this channel !
Enjoyed the gear list. Interesting about the Kula cloth... have been thinking of picking one of those up. Did you (Lotus) like the Gossamer Gear backpack when you had it? I’ve been eyeing that as well.
The Gossamer Gear packs don't seem to work for me, but maybe it's my body type. They feel too square/bulky in a way where the weight is always pulling me backwards, if that makes sense.
I am a woman but don't use women specific stuff because I am quite muscular/broad shoulders etc... So wouldn't go for gender specific clothing. Love the super light rain jacket, toilet tool, bandana (so good), Opsak, dry bags, battery pack, first aid pack, tiny stove, Toaks pot, etc...Nice work.
Is there a 4 season Ultralight tent...? Is the base weight different for 4 season Ultralight...thru hiking? P.S. Does anyone have a 4 season Ultralight gear list they can share...please?
Hi Lotus, let me help you shave down a few more ounces. Take it or leave it! 😘: -Try the gossamer gear murmur, it is only 12.5 ounces instead of the 15oz palante. -Remove the hand sanitizer, and bring with you a piece of soap. Use your swiss army knife to shave off bits of soap, add a little water and wash your hands. -Mix the doterra bug oil in a small plastic spray bottle with water, and you'll have instant bug spray without the glass bottle...it may or may not be lighter, but it's a little easier. -agreed, go back to a bandana instead of kula cloth because bandanas dry easily, wash easily, and can be used in many different ways, including a makeshift arm brace if you break an arm. -might I suggest the katadyn be free, remove one of your two smart water bottles and get rid of the sawyer squeeze, and use the katadyn as your replacement. - get a hilltop pack if ever you plan on hanging your food. Does your opsack stay in your pack? (Sorry, I'm an AT hiker and think about bears, but it may be different where you are and can't hang a bear bag or don't want to use a bear can.) - I suggest trying brushing with a small bag of baking soda, it saves weight and smell a bear can smell from your toothpaste. -buy a very short phone cord and usb cord. -I love your journal, I'll never tell you to remove it, it's your heart and soul in words! -try wrapping a bit leuko tape around one of your trekking poles, so you don't have to really carry it, and it's at the ready for you when you need it. -rid yourself of the pillow and go back to your puffy in a stuff sack. -you could go with a lighter beanie, but I do like your pink beanie! Hope this helps!!
This was super informative! How long does it usually take to charge your headlamp from your battery pack? I’m hesitant about switching over to a usb powered headlamp.
@@jhonyermo thanks man I don´t know if smart water bottles have the same top here in europe if thats the case all water bottles are compatible with sawyer filter
How do you feel about the GG night light in colder temps? What would you confidently push it to? And, did you find you need to remove everything In the pack to get to it? (I find my thin light super sticky so it stays on the outside. - good for not sliding around in a tent though).
I have used it in below freezing temps and I was fine, but I hate inflatable pads and probably overcompensate on clothing to make up for that. It remains in my pack until I take everything else out.
Thanks for your very informative video. What did you use for a groundsheet? Obviously the 7lb did not include water and food. You don't seem to have a knife, or a tool for getting fuel.
Florida mosquitos are monsters. Babyganics mosquitos spray works better than the normal essential oils. Also if you saw beautyberry bushes, you could use that as a mosquito repellent
Lotus and I shared a tent on her last hike, the Zpacks Duplex, but normally she carries a Gossamer Gear The One! A lot of folks had asked for the video so we hope you enjoy!
yeah I was just going to ask about this.
Oh, cool - you just answered a question I asked in a comment! This would bring her base weight up a bit but not much. Thanks!
What is the weight of her tent, the one?
@@nedsled2994 19.93 oz / 565 g, per Gossamer Gear's website. It also needs 6 stakes so another ~50-70 grams depending on which stakes you bring.
JupiterHikes Nice I was wondering what she carried for a tent. Thanks
As a female backpacker, I appreciate the different perspective. Thanks for the vid.
I agree!
As a male backpacker i dont know why im watching this
THANK YOU! We really need more women doing gear lists, and this one was a good one. Some valuable insights and very easy to watch. Loved your laid-back tone. Nice one Lotus. 👌🏻
Dixie from Homegrown Wanderlust is a triple crowner that does gear reviews
Thank you so much!
Agreed!
Fav bit at end ... Lotus "I carried this yoyo... so Jupiter didn't have to yoyo alone" love that. BB
The backpack doesn't seem comfortable for longer hikes as it sdoeant have stiff back... I would probably add a bit of weight so it's more comfortable and you won't actually feel the difference
Yep. The Yo-yo was my fave too🤗
I was intrigued when the Yo-Yo was first mentioned, and then I was happy to hear this explained!
This was extremely valuable to me as a woman, want to support her -
I have my own channel now, so you can! :)
i swear you two have like the perfect voice for the way both of you tell your stories and describe things not overly excited but can tell you have passion for it and believe in what you are saying
Love watching female pack/gear videos as a fellow female hiker. The palante fleece is a lovely colour
Just found your channel and Florida Trail videos. What a great job you guys did! I’m a native Floridian and have only section hiked a few parts of the trail in central Florida. I’ve watch several other videos about the trail and I feel that your’s is the best! Thanks for sharing your experience!
Love this please share more of her gear load outs in the future!
Would Love to know how she deals with her hair on trail
I just wanted to say that I copped a nice yoyo as my luxury item for my AT SOBO (hopefully) this year because of you, and so far it's proving to be 63g well spent.
Thanks for unpacking all your stuff to show us. Really appreciate it 😍
the content is surprisingly inspiring esp. for female hiker. youtube was playing different videos on my phone and this video is like, the way she speaks is comfortable to listen to. half way of this video i think i should subscribe this channel and found out it is jupiterhikes'! (already subscribed)
There was that moment when the two of y'all were heading down the trail in opposite directions, and suddenly you both noticed another hiker with a yo-yo.
@ 8:23 That's some amazing editing right there!
That wasn’t edited. It’s a high-end, exclusive piece of gear that blows up instantly.
Aw yay! Lotus is so great, we hiked on the AT together! -hello from Chip!
Chip you're the best!
I really enjoyed that you took everything out of your pack as you went so that we can also see how you packed everything
I'm glad I'm not the only adult that still likes to yoyo. Might have to bring one on trail at some point just because.
They are the best! What better way to pass some time on trail than throwing around a yoyo
Great video , I think I’m sold on the palante pack .
Super happy to see a woman’s perspective. Thank you!
Don't know if anyone mentioned it yet, but the headlamp shown at 6:54 is actually the Nitecore NU25, I have the exact same thing. This is easily one of the best lightweight headlamps available, definitely worth checking out. Fully submersible, USB rechargable, night hikable (think wintertime), excellent broadspread true white light setting for reading. Really full featured for just the 52 grams (1.8 oz) weight including the standard headband, or even lighter if you tinker your own attachment system with a shock cord or a clip on. (And no, I am not taking money from Nitecore.)
That's my bad, I was the one editing the video so just marked it wrong
Cool good presentation, enjoyed you gear review . I like your Jupiter hikes T-shirt I have one in orange 😁 I get more comments of that shirt than anything I own 👍
Every video is getting better and better dude! Love it 👍
Thanks for sharing what worked for you. I just got a pair of Topo Ultraventures last week and they are already my favorite pair of shoes ever. Wide toebox like an Altra, but more comfortable for me due o the slight drop and cushioning. I plan to get another pair so I have a clean pair to wear off trail.
I really appreciate all the info in this video! this is exactly where I want to get to, regarding light weight backpacking. I feel very inspired, thank you
The Ultraventures are great, especially since Topo started using Vibram outsoles. More tapered midfoot than Altra, plus a little drop while retaining the wider toe box. The Terraventure 2's are nice for off trail terrain. Looks like the GG Nighlight fits better in the newer Pa'lante's. Thanks for the video, y'all.
Florida mosquitoes: I laugh at your essential oils
What about a shelter...?!
I love learning more about ultralight and I try to buy as mostly light as I can (850 down Big Agnes sleeping bag to save weight) but can’t fathom how someone travels without something as simple as an ace bandage for a sprained ankle or at least an extra pen. Or nail clippers! I guess it all depends on the location of the trail, duration of the trip and re-supply points. I wish I could drop the weight of a bear canister in some areas but I get it.
Very cool ideas, nonetheless and I enjoyed seeing a female perspective. Maybe I’ll do a backpacking load out gear video. We need more!
Hey! Forgot to mention the shelter in the vid, but she uses a gossamergear the one when alone, and we shared a zpacks duplex when hiking together. As for the other stuff, generally on most of these long trails we aren't too far from a town so nail clippers for instance are on a buy as we need basis. Same goes for medical stuff, Advil is often enough to get to town, from there we can get more serious help, supplies, or an out back home. Some things like an ace bandage could probably be improvised with a shirt, bandana, or something of the like. Having broken a foot on trail in 2018, and sprained an ankle in 2012 I still don't find the need to carry one myself but would never fault anyone for wanting to have that safety net to aid in getting to the next town. Cheers! I'm glad you enjoyed the video
Glad I watched again this year 211001fr in fact. Thanks Lotus and Jupiter, again.
I was unaware of Topo shoes. I wear Hoka's presently, but, I'm going to have to check out Topo's. Thanks Lotus!
Inflatable pillows ARE wonderful!!
My summer base weight is 8.6 lb and I carry a much heavier stove and cook kit. I don't carry much. One set of clothes to hike in, one set to sleep in.
Yous twos yoyo’s give me hope for the future of humanity...thx Jupiter and Lotus
Yay! Thank you so much for sharing, love seeing ladies gear lists!!
good video, i enjoyed watching you two on the hike.
Excellent kit. Thank you so much for sharing, Lotus! Thanks, Jupiter!
Wondering what shelter / tarp you use ? Did I miss it ?
Shared a zpack duplex. Normally carried a gossamer gear the one tent
Thanks Lotus!
As a female backpacker, I’ve wondered how to lighten up. You’re an inspiration. Please share your PCT list for sections above Kennedy Meadows.
found the gossamer packs incredibly uncomfortable no matter how it was packed; until i slipped a thin, flexible pvc cuttingboard (ca. 8x12") inside the pack facing the back… this increases the weight only by about 1,5 oz but increases the comfort tremendously. Thoughts anyone?
I think I am going to try exactly that
Thank you for sharing, I always learn from others gear list.
that was my first thought no tent or tarp or hammock no way for long distance hiking but if you share it is an other storie I hiked long distance women alone ultralight when it did not exist with a light tarp when nobody did it but got to have a shelter now in my 70 with a painful knee and surgery will get hammock
I'd love to backpack in shorts but idk how people do it. I'm not skinny enough. I have to wear lightweight trail pants or capris. Also I burn easy so less sunscreen. Also I'm team inflatable pillow haha
Mosquitos, ticks, other biting insects, thorny/stingy vegetation, and UV rays would also love you to hike in shorts!
Respect and blessings. Excellent comp.
I was waiting to see what foods you bring ,
Add 4 or 5 days food and more water hauls on pct. Adds up quick.
Where did she find the Hiking Essentials T? Absolutely love this video- great insight! Hope to get on the trail in the next few years!
I make those shirts! You can get one on my website if you'd like to 🙂
That pillow inflate tho', sweet edit. I agree about the puffy. I stuff mine in it's pocket as a pillow. Puffy pocket pillow.
Don’t you ever need to wear the puffy at night? It gets down to the 40’s here in northern MN.
Great review. Thanks.
Nice video. I also wondered about the tent. 😀 So thanks for leaving that in the comment! Greetz
I love farm to feet!! You don’t see them as much as the darn tough, but im with you, I like them a lot bettet
Very much appreciated this video. Informative and oh so interesting. Always learning, and so glad you shared. As in BIG TIME 😌
I carry this yo-yo so Jupiter doesn’t have to yo-yo alone! 💙 Great job on the video. Easy to understand, and beautiful scenery. Very helpful breakdown of your gear and weights in the Lotus Gear List in show notes.
lotus needs her own channel! pls convince her!
Sweet kit. By chance, does Lotus have any videos of any of her previous hikes?
Thanks for posting.
No, but she does have a bunch of hand written journals and a whole lot of photos. Though mostly private as well
Thank you! Loved this! Going to HAVE to try the shoes...another new one...wallet is groaning, lol
Aww wish lotus was in more videos, does she have a channel?
I do now!!
@@tessmullaney wooooooo!! About time :)
What did she do to become a park ranger? I'm interested in pursuing this career and just wanted to know if she has tips on this!
Good work!
Hi Lotus! Loved your vid....I too have the BSR stove, Montbell Versalite rain jacket and Montbell baselayer shirt! I also LOVE merino. Got a question for you....what do you sit on during breaks? Looks like your pad stays in your bag all the time, so clean! And you don't use any kind of air pad? So light, so jelly... I tried the Palante but couldn't get it to work with a z-lite pad and would never get it to work with a bear can. Hoping to get out to the Sierra for some cross country stuff or just ANYWHERE really. Did get 500+/- done on the Hayduke before all the NPs closed. Hope u r hangin in there and get to do eat PCT miles soon. ~Sunkist~
Sunkist! Love following your adventures. On breaks I either sit on my pack, a rock, or the ground. Sit pads are nice, but I didn't really miss it when it was gone. The air pads kept popping on me and I was much happier when I didn't have to deal with that!
Does she have a TH-cam channel? I’d love to see more!
More backpacking tips for women pls!!!! tx for sharing?
Thank you! :)
Great kit! Although I would suggest less plastic..
Thanks Lotus!
Curious what you think about the palante fleece?
She's been wearing it a lot around her place(I would say town, but we haven't been out much) she likes it, no thumb holes is her only complaint. The kuiu fleece I have has no kangaroo pocket which is a bigger complaint
Very well done. Jupiter is granite hard core with that 1/8" carpet pad thing - however, that foam Gossamer Gear short pad well qualifies as plain hard core ! Enjoyed watching the Fla trail hike, the filming was inspiring, as it often is on this channel !
Enjoyed the gear list. Interesting about the Kula cloth... have been thinking of picking one of those up. Did you (Lotus) like the Gossamer Gear backpack when you had it? I’ve been eyeing that as well.
The Gossamer Gear packs don't seem to work for me, but maybe it's my body type. They feel too square/bulky in a way where the weight is always pulling me backwards, if that makes sense.
the gaiter looks cute
I am a woman but don't use women specific stuff because I am quite muscular/broad shoulders etc... So wouldn't go for gender specific clothing. Love the super light rain jacket, toilet tool, bandana (so good), Opsak, dry bags, battery pack, first aid pack, tiny stove, Toaks pot, etc...Nice work.
Those shoes look really comfortable I always have a problem with any shoes squishing my little toe because I have wider feet
She’s amazing.
This is awesome! Thanks
Make a video on how you two met! It would be really fun to see :)
It's part of the PNT series! PNT part 3
As a male hiker, I found this video to be well done too.
Have you thought about using a camping bidet? They weigh ~.5 oz and work surprisingly well.
I tried one out and it ended up making me feel dirtier somehow. Also didn't enjoy having to carry a dedicated bidet bottle.
Cool to see a girl hiking!!
“So Jupiter didn’t have to yo-yo alone…”cuuuute 🥰🥰😂
Is there a 4 season Ultralight tent...?
Is the base weight different for 4 season Ultralight...thru hiking?
P.S. Does anyone have a 4 season Ultralight gear list they can share...please?
Lovely trail name
Great video
8:20 With Captions on LMAO
I love a good gear video
Great vid! Just wondering, is the pink color on the Hiking Essentials shirt always that faded? It looks really cool how the pink is super subtle
It's not the most saturated of pinks, I like it that way as well!
JupiterHikes So does it come that color? I love it, really considering picking it up
great content
Where’s the food?
How much food do you pack for 5 days?
I wanted to see that too
Hi Lotus, let me help you shave down a few more ounces. Take it or leave it! 😘:
-Try the gossamer gear murmur, it is only 12.5 ounces instead of the 15oz palante.
-Remove the hand sanitizer, and bring with you a piece of soap. Use your swiss army knife to shave off bits of soap, add a little water and wash your hands.
-Mix the doterra bug oil in a small plastic spray bottle with water, and you'll have instant bug spray without the glass bottle...it may or may not be lighter, but it's a little easier.
-agreed, go back to a bandana instead of kula cloth because bandanas dry easily, wash easily, and can be used in many different ways, including a makeshift arm brace if you break an arm.
-might I suggest the katadyn be free, remove one of your two smart water bottles and get rid of the sawyer squeeze, and use the katadyn as your replacement.
- get a hilltop pack if ever you plan on hanging your food. Does your opsack stay in your pack? (Sorry, I'm an AT hiker and think about bears, but it may be different where you are and can't hang a bear bag or don't want to use a bear can.)
- I suggest trying brushing with a small bag of baking soda, it saves weight and smell a bear can smell from your toothpaste.
-buy a very short phone cord and usb cord.
-I love your journal, I'll never tell you to remove it, it's your heart and soul in words!
-try wrapping a bit leuko tape around one of your trekking poles, so you don't have to really carry it, and it's at the ready for you when you need it.
-rid yourself of the pillow and go back to your puffy in a stuff sack.
-you could go with a lighter beanie, but I do like your pink beanie!
Hope this helps!!
This was super informative! How long does it usually take to charge your headlamp from your battery pack? I’m hesitant about switching over to a usb powered headlamp.
Very quick, maybe two hours or so!
Tampon? My wife uses one of those cups from natural rubber. Maybe try one of them?
@anime it was just a sugestion.
Did I miss what she was using for shelter? I don't think it was mentioned.
We used a Zpacks duplex!
@@JupiterHikes Thanks for replying! Of course, now I see the pinned message. ^^'
Amazing place. I love hiking . Thanks for sharing your amazing video. A new friend here and stay connected👍✅🔔
I don´t get what all U.s. americans have with smartwater bottles? whats the deal with can somebody explain it to me? its just a Pet bottle?
Sawyer filter crews right on the the water filter. People in New Zealand that have used them, sure wish they had them there.
@@jhonyermo thanks man I don´t know if smart water bottles have the same top here in europe if thats the case all water bottles are compatible with sawyer filter
How do you feel about the GG night light in colder temps? What would you confidently push it to? And, did you find you need to remove everything In the pack to get to it? (I find my thin light super sticky so it stays on the outside. - good for not sliding around in a tent though).
I have used it in below freezing temps and I was fine, but I hate inflatable pads and probably overcompensate on clothing to make up for that. It remains in my pack until I take everything else out.
No tent?
missed you my friend:) regards from germany
i love arizona so if you do small hiking vids there that would be great
Thanks for your very informative video. What did you use for a groundsheet? Obviously the 7lb did not include water and food. You don't seem to have a knife, or a tool for getting fuel.
We didn't use a groundsheet on this trip. I carry a small swiss army knife and if I am making a fire I only use dead and downed small pieces of wood.
Beautiful hair 😀
Florida mosquitos are monsters. Babyganics mosquitos spray works better than the normal essential oils. Also if you saw beautyberry bushes, you could use that as a mosquito repellent
i always feel bad seeing ppl squeezing water through there sawyer. how come hyrdoblu versaflow isn't the standard??
How does she like that Palante fleece shes wearing? Does it zip all the way up the mouth/nose area, how lightweight is it?
What do you use as a shelter?