He's the only dude at the top of the draft who I feel is a legit two way player and though he isn't a shooter he's a SCORER which has him AT LEAST a top 6th man of the year candidate every year in my mind. And at best the second best player on a great team like Jaylen Brown. He's two way, should go top 5. Detroit could REALLY use him if they believe Vinson can perfect his shot.
We gonna be pushing for the record of most turnovers in a season. We were close last year! Except we had Cade to slow down Jayden “Cocaines a Hell of a Drug” Ivey. But, shoot man. We will average Time of Possession of 13 mins. And about 78.4 turnovers.
@@NewBeginnings590 And NOBODY we could have drafted at 5 would have helped that at all. So swing for the fence@5 you can get someone to stand in the corner waiting for an open shot later. We gotta find people who can create those open shots. We only have one and he's led a team to how many wins? So he might not be that guy either.
His athleticism reminds me of Lonnie Walker, but better coordination and he plays defensive! Has that dog in him to not let you score on him. Mamba mentally. Hustles and plays with intensity. You can tell he wants to be great.
You won’t be able to run around or thru anyone in the NBA. This just looks like highlights of that one dude in highschool that was just more athletic than everyone around them. No shots in 11 mins of highlights. No assists. No smart plays. It’s just the same highlight over and over. Thats scary. But Pistons are good at making decisions, so I trust they know what their looking to achieve as a whole.
Watching this trying to convince myself I love this pick and just getting more and more depressed with every transition dunk 😂. The first jumper of the reel comes at 6:58! Still reserving judgment tho. He doesn’t fit right now but we could look drastically different a few months from now.
You should be getting happier and happier we have nobody on our team who can lay up the ball with English and mustard off the glass. Nobody on our team is good at finishing at all and nobody on our team other than Isaiah Stewart has any dog in them whatsoever.
@@bigfellamike1913 Nobody can finish because we play against the most congested paint in the league on a nightly basis. We have ZERO spacing. The stingy whistle we get don’t help either. Btw, go look at Holland’s shooting splits, he ain’t that great of a finisher either, this is a highlight reel bro. Also I gotta say…I don’t give a damn about Beef Stew’s dog. While you’re knocking other players he’s the worst finisher at the rim on the team and he can’t guard anyone. They want him to be their Draymond but he’s not quick enough to stay with wings and not tall enough to handle centers. This roster is a mess
@@FiendishDr_Wu We just got thj and bobi klintman will gert minutes and shoot spot up shots, stew can shoot a bit, ivey lead our team in 3s mad least year, cade has room to improve shooting. Sasser can shoot. Fonteccio can shoot. more trades will be made AND we just hired fred vinson. We were always going to be bad this year. don't sweat it. Many roster changes will happen over 2 years.
Physical, aggressive, gets to the basket, but Hornets also needs defense, and another outside shooter to loosen up opposing defenses. Can he get after it in those areas.
You don’t develop a shot in the NBA. I may be wrong, but can we find someone who shot 23% in 3s in high school. Turn into. 23% shooter in the NBA. That doesn’t translate.
He is damn good for pistons. I thinks he is the right fit with pistons, Cade shooting. Ivey faster and him strong paint in. They might be perfect chemistry.
Or they could be running the ball up and down the court so freaking fast, and then turning it over. That they will have the people who actually try on defense so tired by the 2nd quarter that they will be trailing by 24pts and be left to try to catch up by shooting 3s, and we don’t have any shooters. Does anyone actually “watch” the Pistons?
Welcome to the Pistons my guy!!!!! I'm calling it now, my Pistons STOLE Ron Holland II with the 5th pick. Highlight reel after highlight reel. Think I'm wrong? He'll be the one posterizing everyone in every highligh
hey people just because hes not a shooter like in the NBA doesn't mean he can't be he can you gotta develop him into that just like you do in the college football and the NFL as well.
I knew the Ignite had a "difficult" season, but I am pretty sure they were losing every single time I noticed the scoreboard in a clip. Sadly, he will feel right at home on the Pistons when they likely lose 60+ games again this season. (I am saying this as a lifelong Pistons fan too unfortunately.)
Wow...he took his first jump shot 7 minutes into this video??? If Pistons fans wanted a shooter, this guy isn't it. As a matter of fact, he's Jaden Ivey 2.0. Not sure this pick makes the Pistons any better.
Every single one of this dudes highlights are a dunk. He may be talented, but he’s gonna have to learn how to shoot, or the Pistons are seriously going to have to fix their spacing issues if they ever want to see a Ron Holland even have a chance on the floor. It was the curse for Ausar, Ivey, Duren, and Cade. They’re all forced to play next to dudes who can’t shoot.
It doesn't matter, Nobody on our squad has the potential to start on a playoff contender in the future other than Ron and Cade. Though he's not a good three-point shooter he's still a good scorer and a great one-on-one defender
They're supposed to be losing they're the only team in the whole D League that's full of little kids, the other teams are full of grown men and the former NBA players. Ignite is the only team with all young players hoping to get drafted
I’m 5 minutes into the video as I’m posting this comment and I’ve noticed a couple things. Literally every single clip the team is losing and this dude hasn’t even shot a jumper once dude. Pistons need guys who shoot not just dunk bruh.
Of course they're losing they are 11 months removed high schoolers playing in a professional league for the first time LMAO they're going up against guys like Kenneth farried after playing against snot-nosed kids a year prior lol.
My exact thought and hope for us. Cause I’m good with Coby we’re stuck with Lavines big contract and vuc’s haul we gave up and derozan gone leave cause we don’t have a top 3 pick where after taking one of the top 3 that player could come in and change everything, so I see us losing derozan and this would be the perfect replacement he’s pure talent and abilities are out the world he’s very raw kinda like ANT in college I see this kid being what I thought cam was suppose to be but just extremely rare which means their is no ceiling he can be in with the new faces of the league if he gets stronger and wants it fr
@@TyDivineCreatorto be fair I don’t think derozan gives a single fuck about a top 3 pick😂😂 And to be real he knows none of the kids this year are just going to outright change our team for the better. But I do agree with your assessment of him in that he gives some Ant vibes right now of where it’s clear this dude got skill even if it’s mostly in one area but he also looks very much likes he’s trying to win at all times which is an underrated positive. So I really do hope for him to fall to the bulls where he’ll have a decent opening to play how he wants mixed with learning if we draft him and still keep demar for what we dumb reason. Either way he has more than enough natural abilities to take a chance on him and see if u can develop his other skills like Edwards
Don't get it confused this dudes a winner , helped his local highschool to get to a basketball powerhouse, and was one of the most productive players on undefeated USA FIBA teams.
He's a great 1 on 1 defender so he definitely helps defense without question and he gets steals and is a threat and transition which is what we need we had the largest points off turnover disparity in the NBA last year. Lack of heart and lack of defense and lack of steals... Ron Holland has none of those problems
I could see if your teams biggest problem is shooting not wanting to take him, but still the potential is crazy top 3 defensive wing potential for holland.
Which means he should have taken about 73 trillion shots by now. You don’t just “develop” a shot in the NBA. You can perfect it, for sure. But only making 11 threes in a season is, yeah??
@@Lowkeylit69 let’s hope so! Per @omarisankofa Pistons had no contact with Ron Holland leading up to draft. Did not work out for team. Says he was not expecting to be selected at No. 5. Love to see this though. Haha
Any pistons fans back here
Me
What we thinking good pick?
Yes sir
Whats your guys thoughts?
Yup
I see a a demar derozan
Detroit needs SHOOTING SOOOO BAD but this guy might be a star
Defense wins championships buddy
@mowey8853 so does shooting though
@@mowey8853you cannot win anything with a team that cannot shoot beyond 10 feet from the basket
I am feeling that too......he's special.
We supposedly have a shooting guru assistant coach. See how it goes 🤷🏿♂️
He's the only dude at the top of the draft who I feel is a legit two way player and though he isn't a shooter he's a SCORER which has him AT LEAST a top 6th man of the year candidate every year in my mind. And at best the second best player on a great team like Jaylen Brown. He's two way, should go top 5. Detroit could REALLY use him if they believe Vinson can perfect his shot.
You called it bro
One of the few guys in the draft who I could see being a superstar
if he learns to shoot definitely if he can’t then ben simmons 2.0
Bro I’m 6 minutes into this and still haven’t seen a jumpshot 😂
I was thinking the same, barely any jump shots or passing plays. Ive seen one shot 7 mins in
He shoots very poorly from 3
Exactly. No jump shots or assists. IDK how this is going to work out.
Man I was thinking the same thing. Defense in the NBA is going to clog the lane.
😬 very impressive at driving to the lane but you can't just do that all games and stay healthy. 🙏
Welcome Pistons fans! Do we like? I’m liking what I see. Very athletic…decent jumpshot…fearless…I’m liking!
He catching a whole lot of bodies! That’s kinda what u go by when drafting these players. I just need to see him shoot the damn ball tho
Exactly!
He has good shooting mechanics from what I’ve seen so if it’s just a consistency problem, he could be great
To only be 18 the way he absorbs and finishes through contact is extremely impressive
WELCOME TO THE MOTOR CITY RON
We gonna be pushing for the record of most turnovers in a season. We were close last year! Except we had Cade to slow down Jayden “Cocaines a Hell of a Drug” Ivey. But, shoot man. We will average Time of Possession of 13 mins. And about 78.4 turnovers.
@@NewBeginnings590 And NOBODY we could have drafted at 5 would have helped that at all. So swing for the fence@5 you can get someone to stand in the corner waiting for an open shot later. We gotta find people who can create those open shots. We only have one and he's led a team to how many wins? So he might not be that guy either.
He reminds me so much of Jaylen Brown when he was in Berkeley, maybe just a tad bit less explosive but so eerily similar.
Thought the same thing! The kid’s a project but if a team is patient with his development he’ll be a problem
Demar derizan
I was thinking both Brown and a young Paul George
What Josh Jackson coulda been
I know its going to take a couple years to get where we want to be but this guy will make watching the pistons entertaining
O boy ! This guy is electrifying !! Welcome to the D holland !! Detroittt basketball !!!
future nba slam dunk champ
Best player in the draft
I like Castle, Clingon, Rockets whitey more
Let’s go welcome to Detroit!
His athleticism reminds me of Lonnie Walker, but better coordination and he plays defensive! Has that dog in him to not let you score on him. Mamba mentally. Hustles and plays with intensity. You can tell he wants to be great.
This dude is tenacious on both ends of the court, he looks a lot like a young MJ. Great draft pick by the Pistons. 👏🏼
The way he gets up and down the court is insane.
Do you mean young Alec Burks?
@@timacree7177 Just say you don't know anything about basketball and call it a day.
I don't see many Burks parallels, but I was trying to cheekily push back on the "young MJ" comment, which was blasphemous.
Pistons got a gem 💎, but need to add shooters for soacing to make this roster better.
THANK YOU!! A PLAYER WHO FITS OUR TEAM!!!
💯💪🏻🔥
Let’s go Detroit future is bright
How so ?? Another player Cade can pass to who can’t space the floor .!! Yay 🎉🎉🎉
24% from 3... lol
Another player that can’t shoot? 🤷♂️🤦
Between him and Ivey….we gonna be turning that ball over at some high speeds!!!
You won’t be able to run around or thru anyone in the NBA. This just looks like highlights of that one dude in highschool that was just more athletic than everyone around them. No shots in 11 mins of highlights. No assists. No smart plays. It’s just the same highlight over and over. Thats scary. But Pistons are good at making decisions, so I trust they know what their looking to achieve as a whole.
Great point the Pistons leave us no reason to doubt their decision making
Got me until you said the Pistons good at making decisions 😂
@@justbeingme88 that was the punchline 😂
Watching this trying to convince myself I love this pick and just getting more and more depressed with every transition dunk 😂. The first jumper of the reel comes at 6:58! Still reserving judgment tho. He doesn’t fit right now but we could look drastically different a few months from now.
You should be getting happier and happier we have nobody on our team who can lay up the ball with English and mustard off the glass. Nobody on our team is good at finishing at all and nobody on our team other than Isaiah Stewart has any dog in them whatsoever.
@@bigfellamike1913 Nobody can finish because we play against the most congested paint in the league on a nightly basis. We have ZERO spacing. The stingy whistle we get don’t help either. Btw, go look at Holland’s shooting splits, he ain’t that great of a finisher either, this is a highlight reel bro.
Also I gotta say…I don’t give a damn about Beef Stew’s dog. While you’re knocking other players he’s the worst finisher at the rim on the team and he can’t guard anyone. They want him to be their Draymond but he’s not quick enough to stay with wings and not tall enough to handle centers. This roster is a mess
@@FiendishDr_Wu We just got thj and bobi klintman will gert minutes and shoot spot up shots, stew can shoot a bit, ivey lead our team in 3s mad least year, cade has room to improve shooting. Sasser can shoot. Fonteccio can shoot. more trades will be made AND we just hired fred vinson. We were always going to be bad this year. don't sweat it. Many roster changes will happen over 2 years.
1 jumpshot and a lot of dunks and layups
Welcome to Detroit young man🫡
Welcome to the Motor City! 🔥🔥🔥
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Bulls drafting him would take the sting away from losing Caruso... Giddy, Coby White & Holland is niiiice...
Pistons got him welp
To Detroit he go 🤷🏾♂️
Develop a shot and your an Allstar here's hoping 🤞
11 minutes and less then 5 jump shots is crazy
Really , he can’t shoot
Serious question and I see the potential.. but can he currently do anything but run and jump
His 3 pt shot isn't good, but i think his middy is solid and he has good defense, expect him to go around #5
@@Lowkeylit69you called it
I’m watching this happy af go pistons
Future dunk contest winner
Crazy this dude has relied on his physicality his entire life. Transition will be tough
I hope Detroit doesn't take him
@@Lowkeylit69sheesh
@@Thisthat_77 lol i changed my mind since than im fine with defense in draft need shooters in free agency
If he gets a jump shot he is gonna be dangerous imo
Physical, aggressive, gets to the basket, but Hornets also needs defense, and another outside shooter to loosen up opposing defenses. Can he get after it in those areas.
Russell Westbrook 2.0! 🔥 love this pick
If this kid can get a mid range shot going then eventually his 3’s he just might end up being the steal of the draft, he’s only 18
You don’t develop a shot in the NBA. I may be wrong, but can we find someone who shot 23% in 3s in high school. Turn into. 23% shooter in the NBA. That doesn’t translate.
Welcome to the D #gointowork
go ron!
Can this guy shoot? It seems like we drafted another Asur Thompson. The Pistons should've grabbed Matt Buzelis at 5
AUSAR wishes he could move with the ball in his hands this well 🤣 he can't finish anywhere near as well as Ron. Nor shoot off the dribble
@@bigfellamike1913actually Thompson will shoot better. But they both have IQ and I think. holland could be a good passer
He is damn good for pistons. I thinks he is the right fit with pistons, Cade shooting. Ivey faster and him strong paint in. They might be perfect chemistry.
Or they could be running the ball up and down the court so freaking fast, and then turning it over. That they will have the people who actually try on defense so tired by the 2nd quarter that they will be trailing by 24pts and be left to try to catch up by shooting 3s, and we don’t have any shooters. Does anyone actually “watch” the Pistons?
Future Heat 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Welcome to the Pistons my guy!!!!! I'm calling it now, my Pistons STOLE Ron Holland II with the 5th pick. Highlight reel after highlight reel. Think I'm wrong? He'll be the one posterizing everyone in every highligh
Kings
Smh that shooting coach better be good man
He can be a jr smith type of player with defense
Bro is only 19 looks like it’ll be a longer rebuild then expected
I can see dunk contest.😮
Reminds me of Rudy Gay
welcome to detroit boi
thanks god we picked Ron Holland and not Clingan
Miami Heat Steal🔥💪
But can he shoot Pistons fan here
The future
As a Pistons fan, 5min in and never seen him shoot once..!..Free agency it is as to get shooters..!.Good slasher though, as it seems..
My 2k character in 2018😂
Welcome to the Kings
hey people just because hes not a shooter like in the NBA doesn't mean he can't be he can you gotta develop him into that
just like you do in the college football and the NFL as well.
in defense him and ausar thompson would be great on defense.
Lezz go Pistons
Can he shoot?
Not really, he made just 11 3s in 15 games for the g league ignite and shot just 23% from 3.
I was about to ask the same thing
Everything besides the reverse dunk they were down in the game thanks a lot Detroit😢
Welcome to the motor city
Bulls please
Did he take one jumpshot?
I knew the Ignite had a "difficult" season, but I am pretty sure they were losing every single time I noticed the scoreboard in a clip. Sadly, he will feel right at home on the Pistons when they likely lose 60+ games again this season. (I am saying this as a lifelong Pistons fan too unfortunately.)
I keep seeing him listed as a PF/SF. I would put him at the 2.
Welcome to Detroit !
Wow...he took his first jump shot 7 minutes into this video??? If Pistons fans wanted a shooter, this guy isn't it. As a matter of fact, he's Jaden Ivey 2.0. Not sure this pick makes the Pistons any better.
Ron Holland Westbrook?
76ers
Dude didn’t have one jumper in his highlight reel 😂. The pistons will be jumping out of the gym though
Every single one of this dudes highlights are a dunk. He may be talented, but he’s gonna have to learn how to shoot, or the Pistons are seriously going to have to fix their spacing issues if they ever want to see a Ron Holland even have a chance on the floor.
It was the curse for Ausar, Ivey, Duren, and Cade. They’re all forced to play next to dudes who can’t shoot.
It doesn't matter, Nobody on our squad has the potential to start on a playoff contender in the future other than Ron and Cade. Though he's not a good three-point shooter he's still a good scorer and a great one-on-one defender
Straight slather
Pistons got this man. But can he shoot? Pistons need shooters.
Demarr Derozan
Obi Toppin or Lebron James?
Got some good dunks but they were losing almost every game on here badly
They're supposed to be losing they're the only team in the whole D League that's full of little kids, the other teams are full of grown men and the former NBA players. Ignite is the only team with all young players hoping to get drafted
Jaylen Brown 2.0
Let’s see who the hell this is and if the pistons are fucked
Im going to be the first to say it. NBA Daft is tonight. But welcome to the Spurs 😉
Can this kid shoot the basketball?
gerald green 2.0
I’m 5 minutes into the video as I’m posting this comment and I’ve noticed a couple things. Literally every single clip the team is losing and this dude hasn’t even shot a jumper once dude. Pistons need guys who shoot not just dunk bruh.
Of course they're losing they are 11 months removed high schoolers playing in a professional league for the first time LMAO they're going up against guys like Kenneth farried after playing against snot-nosed kids a year prior lol.
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Bulls baby
My exact thought and hope for us. Cause I’m good with Coby we’re stuck with Lavines big contract and vuc’s haul we gave up and derozan gone leave cause we don’t have a top 3 pick where after taking one of the top 3 that player could come in and change everything, so I see us losing derozan and this would be the perfect replacement he’s pure talent and abilities are out the world he’s very raw kinda like ANT in college I see this kid being what I thought cam was suppose to be but just extremely rare which means their is no ceiling he can be in with the new faces of the league if he gets stronger and wants it fr
@@TyDivineCreatorto be fair I don’t think derozan gives a single fuck about a top 3 pick😂😂
And to be real he knows none of the kids this year are just going to outright change our team for the better. But I do agree with your assessment of him in that he gives some Ant vibes right now of where it’s clear this dude got skill even if it’s mostly in one area but he also looks very much likes he’s trying to win at all times which is an underrated positive. So I really do hope for him to fall to the bulls where he’ll have a decent opening to play how he wants mixed with learning if we draft him and still keep demar for what we dumb reason.
Either way he has more than enough natural abilities to take a chance on him and see if u can develop his other skills like Edwards
Can he shoot? Fuck lol
No, in 15 games with the g league ignite he made 11 threes, 23% from 3.
Don't get it confused this dudes a winner , helped his local highschool to get to a basketball powerhouse, and was one of the most productive players on undefeated USA FIBA teams.
If he not #1 then who is?
Sarr
they jus gonna choose all the guys from france and shi over him but ron and matas the best in this class
@@walkedyoudownboth can’t shoot right now unfortunately
@@leeko1arda im not letting that stop me from drafting them , real nba trainers and coaches will have them shooting at 35% or more hopefully
If he could shoot he would go 1
um....can he shoot?
Welcome to charlotte
The next rodney stuckey
A lot of dunks. In the NBA, he won't see a lot of dunks. I want to see some shooting.
As a Pistons fan we now have too many non shooters I think Trajan looks to trade Ivey for a shooter once FA opens up.
Russ vibes
A transition player on a team that has one of the worst defenses… oh boy another 30 win season coming our way
He's a great 1 on 1 defender so he definitely helps defense without question and he gets steals and is a threat and transition which is what we need we had the largest points off turnover disparity in the NBA last year. Lack of heart and lack of defense and lack of steals... Ron Holland has none of those problems
Why are people worried about his shooting? Hes only 19 😂😂 he has many years to develop
I could see if your teams biggest problem is shooting not wanting to take him, but still the potential is crazy top 3 defensive wing potential for holland.
He’s 18
Which means he should have taken about 73 trillion shots by now. You don’t just “develop” a shot in the NBA. You can perfect it, for sure. But only making 11 threes in a season is, yeah??
@@NewBeginnings590 fred vinson will fix him
@@Lowkeylit69 let’s hope so!
Per
@omarisankofa
Pistons had no contact with Ron Holland leading up to draft. Did not work out for team. Says he was not expecting to be selected at No. 5.
Love to see this though. Haha
sooo pure slasher??? not a jumper in sight
Hes a dwade jimmy butler type player. Best Wing in the draft
No le mire el tiro en suspensión o un tiro de tres puntos, con solo los rompimientos no sobrevivirá en la NBA.
Where’s the jumpshot? Can’t dunk all the time.
Reminds me of Jomario Moon and Derrick Williams , it’s gonna an elite pick for dumbass organisation like the Lakers
Houston Rockets better take him at 3 🙏