Incredible film and experience. I hope everyone involved have the patience to wait for the praise their work will get someday. They took that huge budget and dared to do something truly novel.
Finally. People who actually like the movie. haha Its a great story of a version of the Joker. The predecessor to what we will consider the main Joker who fights with Batman.
Such an incredible take on Arthur's journey to being loved only for who he's not, which itself is the meta commentary on the audience that hated it. It's such an amazing cinematic achievement.😢
@@PumpkinNester The Martian Manhunter trying to control Joker's mind to see if there is a sane side to him (in one of the old Batman cartoons) felt like a Arthur Fleck moment or a Red Hood moment in Batman: The Killing Joke (Joker backstory).
i cannot believe that these behind the scenes videos are so packed with interesting stuff and the majority of them didn't passed the cutting, really strange actually... amazing film already, but just SO MUCH taken away. a half of a love story with one side only because what has been filmed of the other side was excluded
Thank you Todd Philips, Joaquin Phoenix, Lady Gaga and the whole crew. I needed this story. It helped me come to terms with a devastating breakup that had haunted me for years and this film, just as the first did, felt as though it were reaching into my soul and gave me an exercise to see myself and come to terms with it and myself and my own self worth. These films will always hold a special place in my heart. I loved Arthur and hated to see him go as he was one of a kind and I know we won’t get to see such a character as he was in cinemas again.
I have such a love hate relationship with this film, I actually really like the direction they took it, but there were so many missed opportunities that just frustrate me to no end. I love this movie for what it is but I hate it for what it could have been, because it could have been so much more. Either way, this is a unique film and I think in time will begin to appreciate it more. This is a movie where the Joker is struggling to be the Joker, and ultimately finds that there's no Joker left in him, and that's something we'll never see again. Yeah this movie fails to live up to the first one, but maybe it was never trying to. This is a type of movie that will never touch the Batman IP again, and I think in its ambition and uniqueness alone it deserves more credit.
After absolutely LOVING the first one I was expecting to leave highly disappointed but I was pleasantly surprised with another great Joaquin film. They're barely 'Joker' movies to me. I don't follow DC or any comics so I see Arthur as his own character... a relatable, mentally ill, strange loner who can't seem to ever win and finally can't take it anymore. In his mind hes the Joker, or as Murray called him: A Joker. Maybe my perception is why I love them so much. Joaquin is just phenomenal and the character was meant for him.
Joker Folie a Deux: I love every Ounce of this Film. It has so many Layers that many cannot see it directly or need to catch up. The Music was added to make the Relationship between Arthur Fleck and Lee Quinzel romantic. She loved the Joker and not the real Person which is Arthur Fleck. This makes a lot of Sense too (a different Approach of the Relationship with Joker and Harley) that Lee later on finds the "other" Joker and sticks to an Idea of Him. The Plottwist in the End is fantastic. This Film is another great way to reflect on Humanity. What started out as an untreated Disease (or many false Information in the History) led to a false Inspiration / led to a Misinterpretation in the Present. As mentioned, many Audience couldn't see it right away because there are so many Informations at once in this Film. The Music was wonderful sarcastic approach to over all how Humanity copes up or covers a lot through Music. Because sets the Mood of the Emotion and through that we tend to forget or neglect the Objective part of Life. "That is Entertainment" or better said Distraction! Again, what a fantastic Move. Love it!
You deserved better, Arthur ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ As unacceptable as the last scene is.... At least the movie showed to the world who you really are. The people who loved you from the beginning knew all along ❤️
I liked the movie unlike most people but still I think a better ending would've been Arthur realizing he's stuck being the Joker and him just going with it in the end.
Do you guys think Joker Folie a Deux is actually the most misunderstood and underappreciated movie of the year? I haven't seen the movie. But i admire that Todd Philips tried to do something different within the genre. Maybe it's a movie that will become cult classic in the future. Like fight club for example.
I am quite certain that it will be a cult classic. The audience wasn't ready for it. Though I'm pretty pessimistic about people today, the Internet has turned them into hate-bait junkies, so maybe not.
I overall really do like the movie. My two biggest criticisms are the music and Arthur's change in the end. I know it's a musical, but I thought it would be inside his and Lee's heads. Sometimes it was, sometimes it wasn't. Second, I know he has more or less a change of heart after his cross examination of Mr. Puddles and his SA in the prison guards, but it was so sudden. I could believe the change more when it came to the SA by the prison guards because it showed Arthur that he's not invincible; him as the Joker is not loved by everyone. My favorite scene is the music number of "The Joker" in the courtroom. It felt the most like Arthur's Joker, dancing and being a performer, and Lee basking in the "Joker's" light and violence.
I would have liked seeing Connor Storrie speaking behind the scenes. He deserves it given his performance was masterful for a young actor with not much experience in big films. I guess they´re protecting him from public scrutiny and the bad critics from the media. I don´t give a flyin´ f about what they say. This movie was the best in a long time... I´m tired of pretending it´s not.
Not that I'm a comic book fan, but they forget that they're using a DC character and using BATMAN's NEMESIS... beyond that, this sequel ruins Arthur's entire development from sinking into madness to becoming the JOKER. The vast majority of the musical numbers are just for show and add nothing. It can't be that this movie, with a budget of 200 million, only has ARKHAM and THE JUDGMENT as settings. While the first one had many more locations with only 55 million. I only see the JOKER in Arthur's mind and nothing else, when I should have seen him already consumed by madness in this sequel. Harley's JOKER scene on the stairs isn't even in the final cut, and that even came out in the trailers and on a poster. And I'm not even talking about the ENDING. It was a stab in the back for those of us who loved the first one. They could have made a Bonnie and Clyde style movie and it would have been a 10 and if they had left me two or three musicals like the one about the trial which was undoubtedly the best. But well they had to ruin Phoenix's JOKER for the money. except that this year we had the PENGUIN series if not DC would have been worse this year
1:49 for some reason I laughed at this one scene in this video because it looks like he instantly got in the back seat only to sleep on it, instead of sitting on it. x'D (No, I haven't even seen the movie yet).
The objective was not to create a universe for multiple films and series, it was to create one singular history, and I will say that history was very well made
@@scp-507 the other character driven projects were the stuff that would become things like peacemaker and the penguin, that dc ended up wanting to connect with longline dc universes because of money. But Todd for what I’ve seen had no intention on continuing with dc making projects and the joker movies were really just complete standalone, being originally meant to be only one and ending up getting a sequel that really was the definitive ending.
I like the movie first and foremost. But why did Arthur had to necesarily come back to who he was? Why wouldn't he pick to lose himself in Joker identity? Would make sense and stylistically people would love that too. Why not dedicate himself fully to that mental armor? I know that Arthur is not that kind of person to go on some killing rampages, movie didn't need that either, but he could stand in this mental armor called Joker to the end, and it would make sense in relation to the first movie too. First movie was a triumph that let me out of the theatre in a sense of euphoria and with a message to Smile and to not take things too seriously. Wish 2nd movie would do that too, without that ending
That actually doesn't make sense because if you really watch the last movie all he did was to be seen an accepted, its a very unjoker like trait. The Joker if you're going off the killing joke in the comic, wanted to be a comedian who is married and he's trying to provide for her, he's a sweet but gullible guy and he gets mixed up with gangsters who wanna pay him to do a job with them..but really he's the fall guy for the job and Batman accidentally knocks him into a vat of toxic chemicals that drives him insane..it's really sad but Joker loses his grip on reality. That's Joker. This Joker was beaten down, a mentally ill abused, and disturbed person who didn't have a fighting chance at surviving the world. He would never be strong enough to be the Joker. He was destined to fail. The point is he wanted to be so loved and accepted by this cruel world and it made him cruel and it was only when he became a monster that he was seen and respected, basically rewarded for doing something that was against his character and it was an identity he tried to fit, only to realize he was never that person...ironically the real monster comes along and does him in. Its a great story. People just wanted it to be him because they identify with the anger of the first film when that was never the point of the story.
The first movie honestly left me feeling sick to my stomach. Disturbed and not in an emotionally cathartic way. I can't explain it. It made me feel like it was a movie for shooters. Like it made me feel like the world is a hopeless place. Like some movies feel like beautifully painful, even tragic like requiem for a dream, but that movie made me feel like I read a killers like messed up diary and I'm just supposed to swallow and internalize it. I don't get why people like that movie over the second. None of it was enjoyable to watch. It wasn't like this triumph of film..it felt like someone losing thier soul. The violent scenes were so savage. It was never meant to be this comicbook villain story. I feel it's all a cautionary tale.
@bluejaytherapper all of that theme about Joker 2019 being a movie for shooters turned out to be a bunch of bunk, nothing happened and no one did no shootings after watching the movie. It was just a stylistically grounded great movie. You have to be really really impressionable to come out of the theatre with these strong emotions
@lepersonnage371 and no I mean the way the movie makes me feel, like it had no humanity. It was depraved. That's just my opinion. I can watch a lot of heavy and dark films. I saw a clip of people clapping in the theater when he shot Murray and that is disgusting you know? I think a lot of incels got turned on by Arthur, I don't think it was the films intent to insight violence. He wasn't a likeable character. And he doesn't feel like the hero but more a self destructive protagonist. The story is a tragedy not a triumph of the Joker and his rise to his power.
Being a gigantic Lady Gaga fan and loving the first movie, I was sooo excited for this second movie. Unfortunately I was really disappointed. I just don't understand why they cut so much of the movie, including so many of Gaga's scenes. That just made me really sad because the movie had sooo much potential.
Yeah I will that's the one thing I was like wait what. And compared to other block busters let's say dune part 2. Which was cheaper than joker 2. They didn't need 200 million. If anything could have recuperated the money did lose as much during at the box office
That's the running gag. He blew WB/DCs budget to get a bunch of artists paid. If you know the history of what Joaquins Joker was when pitched as a starting film for the beginning of a new Gotham universe vs...what Phillips ultimately went with considering they'd essentially given his idea to someone else and asked him to take creative control...well I feel it all makes a lot more sense.
Great. I like the movie very much. Yeah, but in the beginning, since the first movie, all the effort seemed focused on the birth of the Joker character. Then they decided to focus on Arthur Fleck ? I don't understand... Did they made JOKER 2 to apologize for glorifying violence in the first film ?...
just like Top Gun? Just like Alien? Like the godfather? Man shut your mouth, there are a million amazing sequels out there trashcans like you ignore to push this broken agenda that Hollywood only cares about sequels NOWADAYS. Hollywood has always been about sequels.
@bluejaytherapper no dude lol we knew he'd become the villain for batman. Then it was a bs ending that it wasn't even him, lol. I'm like, what was the point?!
9:23 Spoilers But Todd acting like he didn't have arthur gang r@ped, he is an actual clown. I was vibing with the movie until that moment, it was so unnecessary. The puddles moment alongside Ricky's death should have been the sole reason for arthur giving up the joker persona. There should have been no r@pe at all. It really muddled up such an emotional moment witb puddles and arthur.
everybody was putting the movie down, n I thought juat cuz it's not maybe everything u wanted doesnt mean it's bad. but than I saw it.. but it looks great n great actors n some stuff worked but the big picture really wasnt right
To say this movie is more hopeful than the first one....Are you ok Todd? Not only that, but he needs to learn what is the shadow self. And he deconstructed the first one so badly. Disgusting
A misunderstood movie that has faced so much exaggerated hate. 😞 Joaquin and Gaga did their job brilliantly ✨❤ and deserve to be recognized. If people can’t appreciate talent and art, well, that’s another story.
I get it. I understand the idea behind it *but* ...We were mis-sold. Joker gave us all hope. Yes he was an anti-hero but we were given the idea that *_any_* of us mentally ill loners could be something great. To quote Harry Potter, "terrible...but GREAT". At least...something other than nobodies. Joker 2 ruined all that.
Yeah big part of it was filmed while on the Covid main timeline if I’m not mistaken, being that the movie ended up getting delayed multiple times because of that
It seems like there was an alternate ending where Joker and Harley sing and dance on the stairs and get intercepted by Police, I personally would be really intetested to see how that version of the scene plays out in the movie, hopefully there will be an alternate cut ot deleted scenes on the home release
Film was such a let down. So much potiental & most of it went right down the drain. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't all bad but it could've been so much better.
This movie is so underrated it's a master piece
Incredible film and experience. I hope everyone involved have the patience to wait for the praise their work will get someday. They took that huge budget and dared to do something truly novel.
No....go watch the penguin that's much better
@thebatmanbadass30000 I love them both
I can’t wait for the DVD. This movie made me cry and I truly believe it was a masterpiece. People hate what they don’t understand
Agreed, I cried so much when he gave his closing statement and then again at the end :((
Finally. People who actually like the movie. haha Its a great story of a version of the Joker. The predecessor to what we will consider the main Joker who fights with Batman.
A EXTENDER VERSION PLEASE!!!!!!!!! WITH ALL THIS CUT SCENES !!! AND THE PERFORMING OF "THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT"
Such an incredible take on Arthur's journey to being loved only for who he's not, which itself is the meta commentary on the audience that hated it.
It's such an amazing cinematic achievement.😢
I agree
hi chatgpt
@@noobicorn_gamer what?
I liked Arthur’s personality besides from being the joker
@@PumpkinNester The Martian Manhunter trying to control Joker's mind to see if there is a sane side to him (in one of the old Batman cartoons) felt like a Arthur Fleck moment or a Red Hood moment in Batman: The Killing Joke (Joker backstory).
They could never make me hate you Folie à Deux
Agreed, this movie doesn’t get the praise it deserves
i cannot believe that these behind the scenes videos are so packed with interesting stuff and the majority of them didn't passed the cutting, really strange actually... amazing film already, but just SO MUCH taken away. a half of a love story with one side only because what has been filmed of the other side was excluded
Thank you Todd Philips, Joaquin Phoenix, Lady Gaga and the whole crew. I needed this story. It helped me come to terms with a devastating breakup that had haunted me for years and this film, just as the first did, felt as though it were reaching into my soul and gave me an exercise to see myself and come to terms with it and myself and my own self worth. These films will always hold a special place in my heart. I loved Arthur and hated to see him go as he was one of a kind and I know we won’t get to see such a character as he was in cinemas again.
Release the uncut version of this movie please, there was so much cut out 😭
Beautiful performances by Lady Gaga and Joaquin Phoenix. ❤❤
Movie of the year!
I have such a love hate relationship with this film, I actually really like the direction they took it, but there were so many missed opportunities that just frustrate me to no end. I love this movie for what it is but I hate it for what it could have been, because it could have been so much more. Either way, this is a unique film and I think in time will begin to appreciate it more. This is a movie where the Joker is struggling to be the Joker, and ultimately finds that there's no Joker left in him, and that's something we'll never see again. Yeah this movie fails to live up to the first one, but maybe it was never trying to. This is a type of movie that will never touch the Batman IP again, and I think in its ambition and uniqueness alone it deserves more credit.
I totally agree.
I'm very emotional to see Arthur revealing that this was all a fantasy for him to be the best Joker
After absolutely LOVING the first one I was expecting to leave highly disappointed but I was pleasantly surprised with another great Joaquin film. They're barely 'Joker' movies to me. I don't follow DC or any comics so I see Arthur as his own character... a relatable, mentally ill, strange loner who can't seem to ever win and finally can't take it anymore. In his mind hes the Joker, or as Murray called him: A Joker. Maybe my perception is why I love them so much. Joaquin is just phenomenal and the character was meant for him.
This movie deserves it's Oscar of the Cinematography/Best Picture of the year....
Cinematography yes, Picture no. The movie was not as bad as people made it out to be, but it still has major issues
Agreed
@@joetheinfant8891Todd Phillips was probably high af when he wrote this script
😂😂😂😂 nice joke
If the batman didn't get a nomination for best cinematography when it came out, but this does...I'll officially be done with the Oscar's. LOL
Joker Folie a Deux: I love every Ounce of this Film. It has so many Layers that many cannot see it directly or need to catch up. The Music was added to make the Relationship between Arthur Fleck and Lee Quinzel romantic. She loved the Joker and not the real Person which is Arthur Fleck. This makes a lot of Sense too (a different Approach of the Relationship with Joker and Harley) that Lee later on finds the "other" Joker and sticks to an Idea of Him. The Plottwist in the End is fantastic. This Film is another great way to reflect on Humanity. What started out as an untreated Disease (or many false Information in the History) led to a false Inspiration / led to a Misinterpretation in the Present.
As mentioned, many Audience couldn't see it right away because there are so many Informations at once in this Film. The Music was wonderful sarcastic approach to over all how Humanity copes up or covers a lot through Music. Because sets the Mood of the Emotion and through that we tend to forget or neglect the Objective part of Life. "That is Entertainment" or better said Distraction!
Again, what a fantastic Move. Love it!
4:13 Thank you for respecting the dogs privacy 😋
You deserved better, Arthur ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ As unacceptable as the last scene is.... At least the movie showed to the world who you really are. The people who loved you from the beginning knew all along ❤️
Please nominate this underrated masterpiece for Oscars not razzies!
I liked the movie unlike most people but still I think a better ending would've been Arthur realizing he's stuck being the Joker and him just going with it in the end.
Lol why that makes no sense. That would be so pointless. He's like ah well, guess I'm the Joker (reluctantly so) *shrugs*
I love this comments section for once the fans rejoiced with a majority positive take
You can't read my Joker face.
GETOUT!
(He’s got me like nobody)
Do you guys think Joker Folie a Deux is actually the most misunderstood and underappreciated movie of the year? I haven't seen the movie. But i admire that Todd Philips tried to do something different within the genre. Maybe it's a movie that will become cult classic in the future. Like fight club for example.
I doubt it
I doubt it
Doubt it
Watch it
I am quite certain that it will be a cult classic. The audience wasn't ready for it. Though I'm pretty pessimistic about people today, the Internet has turned them into hate-bait junkies, so maybe not.
EXCELLENT MOVIE. EASY TO FOLLOW AND UNDERSTAND. GREAT ACTING AND MUSIC. LOVED IT👍👍
A masterpiece ❤
Please release the deleted scene of gaga's "thats entertainment " song and scene
No
So rude to include all the scenes we didn’t get to see in the behind the scenes 😭
Beautiful cinematography and excellent performances from Joaquin and Gaga 🙌🏻
The movie it's heartbreaking 😔 I love it, I hate it. A tragic love and identity story. But a masterpiece without a doubt❤
This movie is great too, don't judge a movie based on it's review 😊❤😊❤
Gaga crying during the wrap🥺🥺🫂
I overall really do like the movie. My two biggest criticisms are the music and Arthur's change in the end. I know it's a musical, but I thought it would be inside his and Lee's heads. Sometimes it was, sometimes it wasn't. Second, I know he has more or less a change of heart after his cross examination of Mr. Puddles and his SA in the prison guards, but it was so sudden. I could believe the change more when it came to the SA by the prison guards because it showed Arthur that he's not invincible; him as the Joker is not loved by everyone. My favorite scene is the music number of "The Joker" in the courtroom. It felt the most like Arthur's Joker, dancing and being a performer, and Lee basking in the "Joker's" light and violence.
I would have liked seeing Connor Storrie speaking behind the scenes. He deserves it given his performance was masterful for a young actor with not much experience in big films. I guess they´re protecting him from public scrutiny and the bad critics from the media. I don´t give a flyin´ f about what they say. This movie was the best in a long time... I´m tired of pretending it´s not.
Beautiful
Gah I love this movie.
I would love to see some of the deleted scenes too even though i know Todd isn't keen on that
Not that I'm a comic book fan, but they forget that they're using a DC character and using BATMAN's NEMESIS... beyond that, this sequel ruins Arthur's entire development from sinking into madness to becoming the JOKER.
The vast majority of the musical numbers are just for show and add nothing.
It can't be that this movie, with a budget of 200 million, only has ARKHAM and THE JUDGMENT as settings.
While the first one had many more locations with only 55 million.
I only see the JOKER in Arthur's mind and nothing else, when I should have seen him already consumed by madness in this sequel.
Harley's JOKER scene on the stairs isn't even in the final cut, and that even came out in the trailers and on a poster.
And I'm not even talking about the ENDING. It was a stab in the back for those of us who loved the first one. They could have made a Bonnie and Clyde style movie and it would have been a 10 and if they had left me two or three musicals like the one about the trial which was undoubtedly the best. But well they had to ruin Phoenix's JOKER for the money.
except that this year we had the PENGUIN series if not DC would have been worse this year
Take a deep breath. Relax.
all I say is let Todd McFarlane do his cut on this movie, I think that a lot of the issues that this movie has can be improved
Plzzz more cute scene!!! 😃
🖤🖤🖤
1:49 for some reason I laughed at this one scene in this video because it looks like he instantly got in the back seat only to sleep on it, instead of sitting on it. x'D
(No, I haven't even seen the movie yet).
It's insane all this work was for nothing .Why Todd why u failed?it could have been a universe
The objective was not to create a universe for multiple films and series, it was to create one singular history, and I will say that history was very well made
@@simcity4111 actually it was supposed to branch out to other character driven movies. Warner Bros said no and wanted to make a direct sequel.
@@scp-507 the other character driven projects were the stuff that would become things like peacemaker and the penguin, that dc ended up wanting to connect with longline dc universes because of money. But Todd for what I’ve seen had no intention on continuing with dc making projects and the joker movies were really just complete standalone, being originally meant to be only one and ending up getting a sequel that really was the definitive ending.
This movie is pure garbage and always will be
Thank you! ❤
I liked this film though it is not a summer blockbuster. It’s kinda like Taxi Driver 2.
I like the movie first and foremost. But why did Arthur had to necesarily come back to who he was? Why wouldn't he pick to lose himself in Joker identity? Would make sense and stylistically people would love that too. Why not dedicate himself fully to that mental armor? I know that Arthur is not that kind of person to go on some killing rampages, movie didn't need that either, but he could stand in this mental armor called Joker to the end, and it would make sense in relation to the first movie too. First movie was a triumph that let me out of the theatre in a sense of euphoria and with a message to Smile and to not take things too seriously. Wish 2nd movie would do that too, without that ending
That actually doesn't make sense because if you really watch the last movie all he did was to be seen an accepted, its a very unjoker like trait. The Joker if you're going off the killing joke in the comic, wanted to be a comedian who is married and he's trying to provide for her, he's a sweet but gullible guy and he gets mixed up with gangsters who wanna pay him to do a job with them..but really he's the fall guy for the job and Batman accidentally knocks him into a vat of toxic chemicals that drives him insane..it's really sad but Joker loses his grip on reality. That's Joker. This Joker was beaten down, a mentally ill abused, and disturbed person who didn't have a fighting chance at surviving the world. He would never be strong enough to be the Joker. He was destined to fail. The point is he wanted to be so loved and accepted by this cruel world and it made him cruel and it was only when he became a monster that he was seen and respected, basically rewarded for doing something that was against his character and it was an identity he tried to fit, only to realize he was never that person...ironically the real monster comes along and does him in. Its a great story. People just wanted it to be him because they identify with the anger of the first film when that was never the point of the story.
The first movie honestly left me feeling sick to my stomach. Disturbed and not in an emotionally cathartic way. I can't explain it. It made me feel like it was a movie for shooters. Like it made me feel like the world is a hopeless place. Like some movies feel like beautifully painful, even tragic like requiem for a dream, but that movie made me feel like I read a killers like messed up diary and I'm just supposed to swallow and internalize it. I don't get why people like that movie over the second. None of it was enjoyable to watch. It wasn't like this triumph of film..it felt like someone losing thier soul. The violent scenes were so savage. It was never meant to be this comicbook villain story. I feel it's all a cautionary tale.
@bluejaytherapper all of that theme about Joker 2019 being a movie for shooters turned out to be a bunch of bunk, nothing happened and no one did no shootings after watching the movie. It was just a stylistically grounded great movie. You have to be really really impressionable to come out of the theatre with these strong emotions
@lepersonnage371 no I'm saying thats how the movie felt, my personal opinion, not what someone else said, you can't tell me my opinion.
@lepersonnage371 and no I mean the way the movie makes me feel, like it had no humanity. It was depraved. That's just my opinion. I can watch a lot of heavy and dark films. I saw a clip of people clapping in the theater when he shot Murray and that is disgusting you know? I think a lot of incels got turned on by Arthur, I don't think it was the films intent to insight violence. He wasn't a likeable character. And he doesn't feel like the hero but more a self destructive protagonist. The story is a tragedy not a triumph of the Joker and his rise to his power.
Being a gigantic Lady Gaga fan and loving the first movie, I was sooo excited for this second movie. Unfortunately I was really disappointed. I just don't understand why they cut so much of the movie, including so many of Gaga's scenes. That just made me really sad because the movie had sooo much potential.
Arthur ❤
Wild that this movie needed $200 million. Yikes
Yeah I will that's the one thing I was like wait what. And compared to other block busters let's say dune part 2. Which was cheaper than joker 2. They didn't need 200 million. If anything could have recuperated the money did lose as much during at the box office
That's the running gag. He blew WB/DCs budget to get a bunch of artists paid.
If you know the history of what Joaquins Joker was when pitched as a starting film for the beginning of a new Gotham universe vs...what Phillips ultimately went with considering they'd essentially given his idea to someone else and asked him to take creative control...well I feel it all makes a lot more sense.
Has anyone ever dated someone they wanted to twist a little bit?? You know what I mean!! Waiting for the DVD ❤❤❤
The best movie in the world after Joker
Great. I like the movie very much. Yeah, but in the beginning, since the first movie, all the effort seemed focused on the birth of the Joker character. Then they decided to focus on Arthur Fleck ? I don't understand... Did they made JOKER 2 to apologize for glorifying violence in the first film ?...
How many endings were they?
I hope they post the deleted "that's entertainment "
00:57 he REALLY thinks he’s soooo Cool “this is gonna be great” ……🤦♂️🤦♂️
and he was right, its great
In all fairness, the crew did an excellent job making this look great but This movie is Folie a 💩
Best movie OAT
I give this movie 5 morbs.
Its morbin time
I really can't understand how most people didn't like the movie?
It's incredible! For God's sake! Open your mind and see beyond the comics.
People slander comic books and yet they praise Joker who is a comic book character and is popular because of the many iterations on screen.
Watch the penguin.
Why do WB had to cut the stairs scene? These guys love to spoil themselves
Cool
Joker should have stayed a one and done.
just like Top Gun? Just like Alien? Like the godfather? Man shut your mouth, there are a million amazing sequels out there trashcans like you ignore to push this broken agenda that Hollywood only cares about sequels NOWADAYS. Hollywood has always been about sequels.
It needed a conclusion. To me it feels more complete of a character arch
@bluejaytherapper no dude lol we knew he'd become the villain for batman. Then it was a bs ending that it wasn't even him, lol. I'm like, what was the point?!
@@thebatmanbadass30000 you thought that weak person would be the Joker? Not even remotely.
@@bluejaytherapperI agree this is the worst joker in existence.
9:23 Spoilers
But Todd acting like he didn't have arthur gang r@ped, he is an actual clown. I was vibing with the movie until that moment, it was so unnecessary.
The puddles moment alongside Ricky's death should have been the sole reason for arthur giving up the joker persona. There should have been no r@pe at all.
It really muddled up such an emotional moment witb puddles and arthur.
everybody was putting the movie down, n I thought juat cuz it's not maybe everything u wanted doesnt mean it's bad. but than I saw it..
but it looks great n great actors n some stuff worked but the big picture really wasnt right
To say this movie is more hopeful than the first one....Are you ok Todd? Not only that, but he needs to learn what is the shadow self. And he deconstructed the first one so badly. Disgusting
Dc💙
Send in the frowns.
Great film! Thanks for the bts!! Hope we'll have a lot more content in the blu ray.
Movie of the year, century
SOLO HARLEQUIN MOVIEEE!!!!!!
you messed up
Pretty wack idea of a "true self". A waterfall isn't a river's "true self" it's how it acts when the ground drops out
The Joker doesn't exist. That's why the movie didn't work and will be remembered as one of DC's biggest failures.
It will only be remembered like that for those with an IQ
@@lesryglrhfohserit was a critical and financial failure.
A misunderstood movie that has faced so much exaggerated hate. 😞 Joaquin and Gaga did their job brilliantly ✨❤ and deserve to be recognized. If people can’t appreciate talent and art, well, that’s another story.
Cuando Todd Phillips Quiera hacer otra película de Joker que le meta más ánimo por en el final se vino muy abajo
great film!
7:03 😢
I get it. I understand the idea behind it *but* ...We were mis-sold. Joker gave us all hope. Yes he was an anti-hero but we were given the idea that *_any_* of us mentally ill loners could be something great. To quote Harry Potter, "terrible...but GREAT". At least...something other than nobodies.
Joker 2 ruined all that.
Has Warner commented as bots for the first 13 hours? Walked out half way through.
it was musical that's why it flopped
King of Nothing alright.
Rip River Ph0enix
31 0ctober 1993
The viper room J0hnny Depp
Most disappointed Movie ever. What they did to the Character of Harley Quinn was a disgrace.
No what they did to the main villain was a disgrace
01:43 😮when was this filmed ??!?! 2020?? COVID masks?
Some countries think corona is still dangerous lol
Yeah big part of it was filmed while on the Covid main timeline if I’m not mistaken, being that the movie ended up getting delayed multiple times because of that
Bad movie.
It seems like there was an alternate ending where Joker and Harley sing and dance on the stairs and get intercepted by Police, I personally would be really intetested to see how that version of the scene plays out in the movie, hopefully there will be an alternate cut ot deleted scenes on the home release
Film was such a let down. So much potiental & most of it went right down the drain. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't all bad but it could've been so much better.
People will love after it gets an oscar
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Pure trash
one of the worst DC movies of all time. Todd Phillips is the real joke
the worst movie of all time sorry to say
Than you don’t see really bad movies
Worse than The Room? 😂😂😂. Come on now. You people are like Lee & the Joker fanboys
not at all
It was definitely disappointing but worst of all time is being dramatic lol
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We’re not watching that trash 🗑️ bruh 😂