Promotion trials have to be one of the worst things Respawn has done for ranked. I really wish they'd go back to the old system where your rank actually meant something and matchmaking wasn't based on hidden MMR. All they had to do was add tier demotion and cap KP gains so that people couldn't boost by crafting mobile respawn beacons. The system is way too convoluted now.
@@LuluLuvely for sure! I used to solo queue but there's absolutely no way I'd do it now, especially when the reward for such a headache is a banner frame and not a dive trail.
@@LuluLuvely That's why I won't ever play ranked right now, cause I have no sqaud and my skill is way too bad for me to even come close to be gaining something. For me the best thing that could happen is, if the roll back onto the one @littlemerc827 mentioned. And the new Limited. If they keep it? Best for ppl who really wanna train fights... gosh. It's so much fun.
They already made a way to keep people from mobile respawn boosting, they actually did that back in like season 15 or 16 making it so that you can’t get any kp from a person you already killed once before. Promotional trials aren’t really the worst thing since they prevent rats from getting high ranks, now it incentivizes fighting rather than ratting, even though you can still rat for placement. The only thing I would like to see is having a LP cache that stores half the amount of LP you get per match during trials and it combines with the promotion bonus to give you a strong foothold in the next rank after. My opinion is that Ranked should be kinda like the old system with RP since it made a lot more sense as a ranked system since it actually makes you push your skill level if you want to rank up. Hopefully Respawn actually does something to make ranked the best it can be while not making it something in which rank means nothing.
@@threehades9967 C`mon man. So they want to incentivize fighting in a mode where fighting and getting thirded nets you a full loss. So battle royale with a brown icing of rng? Or the scummy play style of waiting until somebody gets knocked so your team has an easy 3v2 in the chaos. Respawn wants you to fight like hell! But whoa there Nelly, slow your role... survive until 8th place. Previously 10. But you know, also get your shields to purple/red somehow. And what's the point of promotional trials if, conservatively speaking, more than half of players are placed in bronze anyway? Why to move that carrot farther away.
The trials is the strangest answer for the problem that is ratting they could have possibly implemented. They needed to address crafting of meds, availability of heat shields, and the issue that kill credit isn't worth enough but they decided to ignore it all and just make everyone's life more miserable with another lousy system slapped on top of a rat encouraging system.
The trials are the best thing Apex had, because there will be fewer abusers and rats. It's just that everyone is suffering because of an imperfect SBMM. But I am most surprised why bronze should play with diamonds in dia/mast/pred matches, which has not yet received trials on platinum even.
@@marmelado_youtube They can also fix those problems with a number of fixes to loot / crafting system or by making ranked not exclusively about what placement you take. I didn't feel like rats were really a problem at all in the system before this.
Check at the end of the season if is true this new ranked sistem sucks because I feel like it's perfect for boots for me I can't not even pass bronze 😂😂😂
we did somewhere around season 12-15 I can't remember what season it was but all they needed to add was rank demotion so you could go from say D4 to P1. They added that but then they also added a bunch of unnecessary shi that ruined ranked and it hasn't been the same since. I wish I could go back to the days when I was complaining about so many Plat 4 players and D4 players being the only problem with ranked.
Not true at all we did have one in 13 but it was to difficult and wasn’t fit for casual players and more towards experienced player who play daily 😅.I feel they just gave up tbh theirs too much feedback on what should be this and that it’s just not gonna happen you can’t please everyone so what can they do.
I don't understand games that previously have transparency with their ranked system taking away information to the players as a "means to make it better". Overwatch did the same thing and both games have the same feedback: it feels awful to play ranked when it is unclear what they are measuring and instead players have to rely on hidden mmr. A good second place being effectively equivalent to a lost first fight during promos just makes ranked feel like a waste.
the trials honestly wouldn't be so bad, if when you were in gold you were fighting golds, and not a pred 3 stack because of your hidden MMR. I feel like that is the biggest flaw in the ranked system currently. It's already ranked, SBMM doesn't need to be in it at all, really in the game whatsoever.
There’s no point in ranked. Why does it have MMR? Shouldn’t your rank dictate your lobby? Why Trials? Shouldn’t I just rank up when I win, and rank down when I lose? I genuinely have no clue why they refuse to simplify it all… this isn’t hard. And THAT is why I haven’t played Apex in nearly 6 months.
I don’t think they had the wrong idea with promo trials, they just executed it very very poorly. Only things I feel they should address that’s very clear is 1.) there should be a point condition for every promo trial as a third option instead of the kills/win a game(like to get out of diamond you should be able to get 3rd place 3 times and it be enough points to bump you out of diamond) 2.) if you win a game to get into promo trials it should bypass promo and immediately rank you up 3.) requirements on promo trials should be different depending on if your solo, duo, or full squad queuing bc solo q is now nearly impossible unless you’re a god at playing w randoms
Agreed, promo trials added the difficulty to the ladder that it desperately needed (The only people that would disagree with that are people that sit in trees for a pred badge they don't deserve), they just need to lighten it a tad bit but not enough to allow ratting to be viable again. They also need to get rid of sbmm in ranked and have it completely ranked based and have better detection of a given players skill in the shortest amount of time in order to not ruin lower ranks experience. What's the point of a ladder if you're in plat playing against preds.. are you a plat player or a pred player ...
It should just be a set of challenges you complete through a full rank (silver, gold) for example 50 kills/assists and top 5 10 times or something if those challenges are complete you rank up
Girl honestly go you though because I see you and your teammates just dominating even though I can't relate at the moment due to the cross progression issues I BELIEVE IN YOUUU you will hit your goal in no time you got this :)
I don't understand why they keep changing ranked so drastically. Just remove trials, give more points for kills and a little less on camping to the end, then just adjust the points a little season to season. Characters and weapons get nerfs and buffs which is proven meathod of getting balance within the game but for some reason ranked rp just keeps getting a complete overhaul. This season is the worst ranked to date
I said the same thing to my friend the day it came out. All that wasted LP during trials. And like what if you're like 20 LP away from doing your trials and you win that game just before? All gone. ❤
Man I WAS tempted to come back. This sucks because apex used to be so good, and it could have been great. This game used to be so fun to grind, and it actually felt like it was worth it. Guess all it will be anymore is just memories of a better time. Sad.
I like the promotion trials because it somewhat stops the ppl being carried, but I went all night without winning then won the game right before my promotion and that hit me 🤦🏿♂️(ended up doing them twice)
it forces you to either secure a win being the last standing in a battle royal where that's the point, or for you to consistently secure top 5 placements map knowledge choosing fights ring rotation etc., while also having to get kills which shows you can contend. It's consistent evidence you belong in late games competing at the same level as your opponents. I agree the being at the edge of starting your trial and doing well is an issue that should be analyzed for a solution, but otherwise it's an interesting new addition. Hopefully all the "pro/streamer" comments don't suade the devs minds and change the game for us far larger casual player base
Facts I spent a whole 10+ hours trying to get out of my damn trials - this is counter productive to the ratting problem because what do you get when half your team is on trials and you want to fight for kills? Your team will rat and you’re forced to rat with them.
IMO the trials would be fine only if they did away with the current matchmaking system. With how matchmaking is right now, you could be in gold and still be in masters+ skill lobbies which can make it possible for really good players to be hardstuck silver or gold. If they went back to the old matchmaking system the trial system would probably be fine, but right now its just incredibly frustrating.
Just started playing a few days ago, well over a month into the season. Won 2 of the first 10 games and like 2 top 5 placements. The others went horribly bad and I got put into bronze 1. Now I've played about 25 games in bronze and I easily won one and some top placements in the first few games, but after that in most games there's around 7 teams in the second to last circle and the people I face off against are preds. Literally what?
The ranked system is finally catering to the average players aka the larger portion of the community. I love lulu and in my opinion the pro players forget that they are pros. It’s a free to play game for everyone not just the top 1% of the skill leveled player
100% on this idea, only the pros made fun of everyone being masters 2 seasons ago. But let me tell you that getting masters even if it was only for one season made A LOT of kids very happy.
What do you mean catering to the average player. I would say I am slightly above average but the ranked mode is putting me when I try to play with my friends on ranked against preds and masters players and we are still in the bronze and silver levels.
Totally agree, this system sucks. I made it to promotional games in silver and my randoms hot drop the two following games and we died, now need to win a game in the next 3 games and nothing else matters. Haven´t played for 14 days knowing this.
I like the change, its not perfect but its a step in the right direction. As a solo player, I HATED getting teammates who would drop and rat for as long as they could. Seeing less and less rats. The promo trials are rough around the edges but give respawn some time im so they'll make it better.
Three times in a row, I've been a few LP away from my trials and then I get a win in that next game. It's so frustrating because the win means literally nothing :(
I honestly cannot even be bothered to play my provisional matches because it's just not fun if half the lobby is in the second to last ring while my teammates are doing god knows what on the edge of a moutain... sometimes I even knock two people on a squad quite easily and my teammates will not push the last guy (or try to res), instead they just run bc they think they're playing against Aceu or Timmy... I'm glad that I haven't gotten to the trials yet since it seems like it's one of the biggest pains for everyone. Solo q player for the most part btw, sometimes duo q.
Trials idea is to put a barrier in the road of rat players, which in my opinion is a good thing. However, I don’t understand the time limit aspect of it ( number of game to succeed). There is no gain in doing so but there is two major drawbacks. One, rats can still rat the whole rank from 4 to 1 because the trials only start at the end, so the general gameplay of most games are still exactly the same. Second, it only hurts solo Q players because not being able to choose your teammate makes the trial closer to a RNG thing than a skill thing. What they should do is keep the trials per rank, make it harder even (adjusted to rank level) but make it permanent. In other words, instead of having to win one game, make it you have to win 5 or 10 but all games from level 4 to 1 of that rank counts. If you are dominant, you will knock out that trial even before getting to the promotion match. It would do multiple things: promote playing for the trials in every game you do, which would affect positively each match within a rank, remove a lot of RNG off the shoulders of solo Q’ers, but still prevent ratting strategies a lot due to objectives being tied to more offensive gameplay style.
I lost the interest to grind ranked when they removed dive trails (that are only even seasonal lol) as rewards and now they've made it so much harder for solo queuers this season with the trials. I'm glad I found another game to play but I do occasionally play Apex still whenever my friends are online even if it's just pubs. For the ranked grinders this season, stay passionate and good luck to you all.
Ngl, maybe im the only one. But the promotional trials adds an intensity that isnt in ranoed anymore (for me). Like i can get all the way upto masters, season is so long its not hard. But those trials adds some intensoty to the games thats been lacking for so long - must win type shit
Saying the game will be around for 10 years gives people incentive to continue to spend money on cosmetics. By repeatedly making changes that go against the community's interest and are generally bad for the game, they can kill the game off, pocket the money, and walk away to a new business venture. Sounds like a shady practice to me #feelsbadman
Their goal was to make it harder to play the game solo. Hoping that they could build up the “community”. They just don’t care that 65% of the player base are all solo casual players. And when you try to 3 stack with randoms, they are usually toxic af.
I’m a solo player in apex and I’m always getting hotdrops, than I play ranked it’s no different and if I manage to be the last guy and go respawn my teammates they dc before I have a chance too or I die saving them only for them to run away and never revive me
Playing and grinding ranked this season is too frustrating, I didn’t play a single placement game and I am not going to play ranked, I almost grind the entire season 18 to get to master and it was a nightmare ( dealing with cheaters, game crashes getting ban for 10 mn and -150 LP several times) no thanks, I just wanna have some fun in pubs when it’s possible
Not touching ranked this season I’m not sadistic it’s a disgusting mess and trials are another garbage idea. Pubs Matchmaking is also insane I’m plat 4 and suffer with preds all day I get one win every 50 games Imma stick to LTMs
I'd be good with the trial system if the matchmaking were by rank and not by MMR. The fact that I have to play kids probably current gold/plat + while trying to get out of bronze is stupid. Got a full time job, don't have the time or patience for the ranked grind anymore. 3 strikes is lit tho
As someone who solo q's these trials are a nightmare, hands down its a guarantee you'll get the two worst players in apex online at that time as your team mates for each match you play during your trials
100% agree. The promotional trial matches feel like completely different lobbies and your team mates are bad. Like worse than any other time you could whinge about bad team mates 😂 tbf the matchmaking seems great this season...untill entering the promotional trials.
Promotional trial matches are stoopid. Even if you dont get teammates from the start of the match, it still counts as a loss/ fail at completing the challenges. Also can they please add a bonus for playing solo. Everyone admits it is more difficult including the pros. Yet you still only get a boost for playing as a pre made. It should honestly fucking deduct like 10% of your points for squading up.
I'm just asking but wasn't the play at 6:10 to get an evac tower and try to contest high? I feel like even tho it would be 50/50 you might had more chances then what happened.
As someone currently in pred, if you can’t get pass the promotional trials time after time again that’s simply a skill issue lmao. If you bring solo queuing into this, why do it in the first place? Solo queuing has been terrible for the past 2-3 seasons so find a team to play with.
I wouldn't have an issue with the trials if the hidden MMR didn't absolutely fucking torch every ranked game. Stat/rank wise I'm an above average player, I've been Masters for 9 of the 19 seasons, I'm not a stranger to play in high level lobbies but I SHOULD NOT BE IN MASTERS/PRED LOBBIES IN GOLD 3. It's been a miserable grind trying to play these last couple seasons since hidden MMR was introduced. Genuinely, I'm not trying to flex, brag, or suck myself off in the TH-cam comments. Sometimes I'll 3 stack in ranked but the majority of the time I'm either duo queing or solo queing and its always a wild card on the skill level of the teammates I get. Most of the time they clearly and respectfully shouldn't be in these lobbies due to either their current rank and/or overall skill. At the very least Respawn needs to cap the the highest lobby you can possibly get into depending on your current rank. With the current rank I'm at the absolute highest lobby I feel like the game should put me in is Plat 1... Maaaybe D4 - D2. Why am I fighting 3 stack pros and blatant cheaters with teammates that can't hold their own most of the time while I'm in Gold 3???
Im malding this season. Soloqing sucks when I'm shit in this game, I'm even shittier more now this rank. Sooner or later I might be able to get graduate and get a degree out of this game because this getting tedious as hell.
You gain all the LP from your promotional trials, I did my first one into bronze and ended with 254 LP after 2 promotional games & the trial was passed.
On my way to masters I shouldn't be playing against active preds after placements and in G2. The SBMM implemented in ranked makes zero sense. The rank should be the skill. That SHOULD dictate your lobby. Lulu's point about 250LP for that win addresses a whole other issue. The game, when it comes to ranked, is in shambles. Has been for years.
the skill-based matchmaking is almost too good in the sense that I'm gold 2 rn fighting diamond to pred squads...like?? and of course I'm solo queing with actual bronze/silver teammates might just retire
The New APEX Promotion Trials are like trying to get through 5 rounds of Wipeout without eating shit. A successful 2nd place game = NO LP = Trial Unsuccessful = BOOM You Stay in Gold. Ahhhh Apex, I Love You.
Promos definitely need tweaking and for the love of god get rid of mmr matchmaking. The whole point of giving me a rank is to face people my rank and climb to the skill level I’m at. Getting placed in silver then playing with nothing but diamonds the whole time is stupid.
Love3 to see the 3 amigas grind out a win. This season is definitely going to be harder than previous seasons but hey "whatcha gonna do." (Gibraltar voice)
In fact, all these changes are aimed at beginners. So that those who spend a lot of time in the game do not break away as quickly as they did before. So that there is no destruction of newcomers in low ranks. But the whole problem is that the old audience suffers from such decisions. The difference between a newcomer and an old player is felt less and less. And it's been really annoying lately
The only reason why she think trials will kill the game is bc she isnt good enough to rank up. Same thing happened in season 13, the season she quit. It revealed her true skill level was like diamond at best and it was a reality check. If you cant rank up, trials or not, you belong in that rank you're stuck at. If the system was actually broken then the best players in the game wouldnt be able to rank up either, but thats not the case. The real preds are still in pred, the real masters are still in masters etc. Dont get mad bc you suck.
Idk I’m a fan of these trials, I just think they should have been done differently. The concept is good. The execution is not. Maybe have more options, instead of a win get top 3 positioning with like 3 kills. I think this would stop rats.
Oh I feel so bad with your triple stack. I was Plat solo since season 4... and now I have to basically carry a win in my trials because team mates are always pylons. Can I do it? I guess... do I want to scream at two pylons so they listen... not really.
Oh no, the rain edited in there at the beginning, sad face ha. Nice try on that first game Lulu. Make it make sense with this ranking shit, smh. You definitely heard that team behind y'all, ha. Kraber Queen gets first dibs, haha. The music when the pain of 2nd place struck again, haha. Y'all work well together. Kalei is a damn good Loba. Clara's game sense, comms and Catalyst plays are clutch.
In my mind, Apex has been done only for money by EA after leaving TF2 die. Surprisly for them, Apex got a huge fame and so they decided to let it live a bit for making more money. I just want TF3
This game gets less competitive every season, from ranked mode being scuffed to controller being the most viable input, just been kinda cringe to play lately imo
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Promotion trials have to be one of the worst things Respawn has done for ranked. I really wish they'd go back to the old system where your rank actually meant something and matchmaking wasn't based on hidden MMR. All they had to do was add tier demotion and cap KP gains so that people couldn't boost by crafting mobile respawn beacons. The system is way too convoluted now.
There's definitely a lot they could have done differently. I'd hate to solo queue ranked now.
@@LuluLuvely for sure! I used to solo queue but there's absolutely no way I'd do it now, especially when the reward for such a headache is a banner frame and not a dive trail.
@@LuluLuvely That's why I won't ever play ranked right now, cause I have no sqaud and my skill is way too bad for me to even come close to be gaining something. For me the best thing that could happen is, if the roll back onto the one @littlemerc827 mentioned. And the new Limited. If they keep it? Best for ppl who really wanna train fights... gosh. It's so much fun.
They already made a way to keep people from mobile respawn boosting, they actually did that back in like season 15 or 16 making it so that you can’t get any kp from a person you already killed once before.
Promotional trials aren’t really the worst thing since they prevent rats from getting high ranks, now it incentivizes fighting rather than ratting, even though you can still rat for placement. The only thing I would like to see is having a LP cache that stores half the amount of LP you get per match during trials and it combines with the promotion bonus to give you a strong foothold in the next rank after.
My opinion is that Ranked should be kinda like the old system with RP since it made a lot more sense as a ranked system since it actually makes you push your skill level if you want to rank up. Hopefully Respawn actually does something to make ranked the best it can be while not making it something in which rank means nothing.
@@threehades9967 C`mon man. So they want to incentivize fighting in a mode where fighting and getting thirded nets you a full loss. So battle royale with a brown icing of rng? Or the scummy play style of waiting until somebody gets knocked so your team has an easy 3v2 in the chaos. Respawn wants you to fight like hell! But whoa there Nelly, slow your role... survive until 8th place. Previously 10. But you know, also get your shields to purple/red somehow. And what's the point of promotional trials if, conservatively speaking, more than half of players are placed in bronze anyway? Why to move that carrot farther away.
The trials is the strangest answer for the problem that is ratting they could have possibly implemented. They needed to address crafting of meds, availability of heat shields, and the issue that kill credit isn't worth enough but they decided to ignore it all and just make everyone's life more miserable with another lousy system slapped on top of a rat encouraging system.
The trials are the best thing Apex had, because there will be fewer abusers and rats. It's just that everyone is suffering because of an imperfect SBMM. But I am most surprised why bronze should play with diamonds in dia/mast/pred matches, which has not yet received trials on platinum even.
@@marmelado_youtube They can also fix those problems with a number of fixes to loot / crafting system or by making ranked not exclusively about what placement you take. I didn't feel like rats were really a problem at all in the system before this.
just need to keep playing better to get more lp
Check at the end of the season if is true this new ranked sistem sucks because I feel like it's perfect for boots for me I can't not even pass bronze 😂😂😂
@@The2214alex It took me a second attempt to climb out of bronze. Its really not that automatic especially if you aren't playing full squaded.
It really is kind of crazy to me that 19 season into the game's lifespan we still don't have a tried & true ranked system...let that sink in.
we did somewhere around season 12-15 I can't remember what season it was but all they needed to add was rank demotion so you could go from say D4 to P1. They added that but then they also added a bunch of unnecessary shi that ruined ranked and it hasn't been the same since. I wish I could go back to the days when I was complaining about so many Plat 4 players and D4 players being the only problem with ranked.
Not true at all we did have one in 13 but it was to difficult and wasn’t fit for casual players and more towards experienced player who play daily 😅.I feel they just gave up tbh theirs too much feedback on what should be this and that it’s just not gonna happen you can’t please everyone so what can they do.
*tha unboxed sink walks through the door*
I don't understand games that previously have transparency with their ranked system taking away information to the players as a "means to make it better". Overwatch did the same thing and both games have the same feedback: it feels awful to play ranked when it is unclear what they are measuring and instead players have to rely on hidden mmr.
A good second place being effectively equivalent to a lost first fight during promos just makes ranked feel like a waste.
if they gave that info out then cheating and gaming the system would go fucking super sayian
the trials honestly wouldn't be so bad, if when you were in gold you were fighting golds, and not a pred 3 stack because of your hidden MMR. I feel like that is the biggest flaw in the ranked system currently. It's already ranked, SBMM doesn't need to be in it at all, really in the game whatsoever.
100% Agreed
It’s because there’s too many little Timmy’s who won’t play if they can’t rank up. So they make MMR for everyone to protect them
There’s no point in ranked. Why does it have MMR? Shouldn’t your rank dictate your lobby? Why Trials? Shouldn’t I just rank up when I win, and rank down when I lose? I genuinely have no clue why they refuse to simplify it all… this isn’t hard. And THAT is why I haven’t played Apex in nearly 6 months.
trials just started like 3 weeks ago? 🤨
When the hands go on the temples you know its stressful
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I don’t think they had the wrong idea with promo trials, they just executed it very very poorly.
Only things I feel they should address that’s very clear is
1.) there should be a point condition for every promo trial as a third option instead of the kills/win a game(like to get out of diamond you should be able to get 3rd place 3 times and it be enough points to bump you out of diamond)
2.) if you win a game to get into promo trials it should bypass promo and immediately rank you up
3.) requirements on promo trials should be different depending on if your solo, duo, or full squad queuing bc solo q is now nearly impossible unless you’re a god at playing w randoms
Agreed, promo trials added the difficulty to the ladder that it desperately needed (The only people that would disagree with that are people that sit in trees for a pred badge they don't deserve), they just need to lighten it a tad bit but not enough to allow ratting to be viable again. They also need to get rid of sbmm in ranked and have it completely ranked based and have better detection of a given players skill in the shortest amount of time in order to not ruin lower ranks experience. What's the point of a ladder if you're in plat playing against preds.. are you a plat player or a pred player ...
@@Spectyrrimo I feel like the ranked trials would be perfect or close to it if rank was ranked based again instead of MmR based.
It should just be a set of challenges you complete through a full rank (silver, gold) for example 50 kills/assists and top 5 10 times or something if those challenges are complete you rank up
I like that idea.
@@LuluLuvely any luck with 1st lately 😂
She wouldnt be able to do that either...
Girl honestly go you though because I see you and your teammates just dominating even though I can't relate at the moment due to the cross progression issues I BELIEVE IN YOUUU you will hit your goal in no time you got this :)
I don't understand why they keep changing ranked so drastically. Just remove trials, give more points for kills and a little less on camping to the end, then just adjust the points a little season to season.
Characters and weapons get nerfs and buffs which is proven meathod of getting balance within the game but for some reason ranked rp just keeps getting a complete overhaul. This season is the worst ranked to date
I said the same thing to my friend the day it came out. All that wasted LP during trials. And like what if you're like 20 LP away from doing your trials and you win that game just before? All gone.
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Yeah it really sucks
this happened me i won the game before failed trial and won the first game after smh
Man I WAS tempted to come back. This sucks because apex used to be so good, and it could have been great. This game used to be so fun to grind, and it actually felt like it was worth it. Guess all it will be anymore is just memories of a better time. Sad.
I like the promotion trials because it somewhat stops the ppl being carried, but I went all night without winning then won the game right before my promotion and that hit me 🤦🏿♂️(ended up doing them twice)
it forces you to either secure a win being the last standing in a battle royal where that's the point, or for you to consistently secure top 5 placements map knowledge choosing fights ring rotation etc., while also having to get kills which shows you can contend. It's consistent evidence you belong in late games competing at the same level as your opponents.
I agree the being at the edge of starting your trial and doing well is an issue that should be analyzed for a solution, but otherwise it's an interesting new addition. Hopefully all the "pro/streamer" comments don't suade the devs minds and change the game for us far larger casual player base
Facts I spent a whole 10+ hours trying to get out of my damn trials - this is counter productive to the ratting problem because what do you get when half your team is on trials and you want to fight for kills? Your team will rat and you’re forced to rat with them.
IMO the trials would be fine only if they did away with the current matchmaking system. With how matchmaking is right now, you could be in gold and still be in masters+ skill lobbies which can make it possible for really good players to be hardstuck silver or gold. If they went back to the old matchmaking system the trial system would probably be fine, but right now its just incredibly frustrating.
Just started playing a few days ago, well over a month into the season.
Won 2 of the first 10 games and like 2 top 5 placements. The others went horribly bad and I got put into bronze 1.
Now I've played about 25 games in bronze and I easily won one and some top placements in the first few games, but after that in most games there's around 7 teams in the second to last circle and the people I face off against are preds.
Literally what?
The ranked system is finally catering to the average players aka the larger portion of the community. I love lulu and in my opinion the pro players forget that they are pros. It’s a free to play game for everyone not just the top 1% of the skill leveled player
Exactly
100% on this idea, only the pros made fun of everyone being masters 2 seasons ago. But let me tell you that getting masters even if it was only for one season made A LOT of kids very happy.
What do you mean catering to the average player. I would say I am slightly above average but the ranked mode is putting me when I try to play with my friends on ranked against preds and masters players and we are still in the bronze and silver levels.
Totally agree, this system sucks. I made it to promotional games in silver and my randoms hot drop the two following games and we died, now need to win a game in the next 3 games and nothing else matters. Haven´t played for 14 days knowing this.
It's even worse when you join a match with just one teammate and you are in a trial like what can you do
I like the change, its not perfect but its a step in the right direction. As a solo player, I HATED getting teammates who would drop and rat for as long as they could. Seeing less and less rats. The promo trials are rough around the edges but give respawn some time im so they'll make it better.
That's all we can hope for!
pls EA bring back the season 13 ranked system
with no demotion protection
Rank is a struggle. Even when they try to fix it, they brake it. That's I don't it anymore.
Three times in a row, I've been a few LP away from my trials and then I get a win in that next game. It's so frustrating because the win means literally nothing :(
Need to play Watson and catalyst to win points in gold, our game is broken 😭😭
The funniest thing is going through your friends list and seeing bronze 1, silver 1, gold 1. Everyone is in a specific rank prison trying to get out 😂
I honestly cannot even be bothered to play my provisional matches because it's just not fun if half the lobby is in the second to last ring while my teammates are doing god knows what on the edge of a moutain... sometimes I even knock two people on a squad quite easily and my teammates will not push the last guy (or try to res), instead they just run bc they think they're playing against Aceu or Timmy... I'm glad that I haven't gotten to the trials yet since it seems like it's one of the biggest pains for everyone.
Solo q player for the most part btw, sometimes duo q.
Trials idea is to put a barrier in the road of rat players, which in my opinion is a good thing. However, I don’t understand the time limit aspect of it ( number of game to succeed). There is no gain in doing so but there is two major drawbacks. One, rats can still rat the whole rank from 4 to 1 because the trials only start at the end, so the general gameplay of most games are still exactly the same. Second, it only hurts solo Q players because not being able to choose your teammate makes the trial closer to a RNG thing than a skill thing. What they should do is keep the trials per rank, make it harder even (adjusted to rank level) but make it permanent. In other words, instead of having to win one game, make it you have to win 5 or 10 but all games from level 4 to 1 of that rank counts. If you are dominant, you will knock out that trial even before getting to the promotion match. It would do multiple things: promote playing for the trials in every game you do, which would affect positively each match within a rank, remove a lot of RNG off the shoulders of solo Q’ers, but still prevent ratting strategies a lot due to objectives being tied to more offensive gameplay style.
The Respawn don't give a damn. They make money from skins.
Literally the old ranked system but without the split 💯 the split was the problem and causing high skill players to be in silver/bronze etc
I lost the interest to grind ranked when they removed dive trails (that are only even seasonal lol) as rewards and now they've made it so much harder for solo queuers this season with the trials. I'm glad I found another game to play but I do occasionally play Apex still whenever my friends are online even if it's just pubs.
For the ranked grinders this season, stay passionate and good luck to you all.
Ngl, maybe im the only one. But the promotional trials adds an intensity that isnt in ranoed anymore (for me). Like i can get all the way upto masters, season is so long its not hard. But those trials adds some intensoty to the games thats been lacking for so long - must win type shit
Saying the game will be around for 10 years gives people incentive to continue to spend money on cosmetics. By repeatedly making changes that go against the community's interest and are generally bad for the game, they can kill the game off, pocket the money, and walk away to a new business venture. Sounds like a shady practice to me #feelsbadman
Their goal was to make it harder to play the game solo. Hoping that they could build up the “community”. They just don’t care that 65% of the player base are all solo casual players. And when you try to 3 stack with randoms, they are usually toxic af.
I’m a solo player in apex and I’m always getting hotdrops, than I play ranked it’s no different and if I manage to be the last guy and go respawn my teammates they dc before I have a chance too or I die saving them only for them to run away and never revive me
Playing and grinding ranked this season is too frustrating, I didn’t play a single placement game and I am not going to play ranked, I almost grind the entire season 18 to get to master and it was a nightmare ( dealing with cheaters, game crashes getting ban for 10 mn and -150 LP several times) no thanks, I just wanna have some fun in pubs when it’s possible
Don't worry guys they'll get ranked figured out in year 10.
Not touching ranked this season I’m not sadistic it’s a disgusting mess and trials are another garbage idea.
Pubs Matchmaking is also insane I’m plat 4 and suffer with preds all day I get one win every 50 games
Imma stick to LTMs
At least the LTM is super fun this time!
@@LuluLuvely So true haha with Respawn you take what you can get!
I'd be good with the trial system if the matchmaking were by rank and not by MMR. The fact that I have to play kids probably current gold/plat + while trying to get out of bronze is stupid. Got a full time job, don't have the time or patience for the ranked grind anymore. 3 strikes is lit tho
As someone who solo q's these trials are a nightmare, hands down its a guarantee you'll get the two worst players in apex online at that time as your team mates for each match you play during your trials
100% agree. The promotional trial matches feel like completely different lobbies and your team mates are bad. Like worse than any other time you could whinge about bad team mates 😂 tbf the matchmaking seems great this season...untill entering the promotional trials.
Being forced to play zone is kind of annoying with the current system, I miss being able to play aggressive.
Promotional trial matches are stoopid. Even if you dont get teammates from the start of the match, it still counts as a loss/ fail at completing the challenges.
Also can they please add a bonus for playing solo. Everyone admits it is more difficult including the pros. Yet you still only get a boost for playing as a pre made. It should honestly fucking deduct like 10% of your points for squading up.
lmaoo the one girls name was beef smellington thats too funny
@ 6:23 i would’ve switched to the gold amor n popped syringes til they died. What yall think? Good move or na?
OMG those sentinel shots are disgusting!!!
Love seeing some Wattson plays!
I'm just asking but wasn't the play at 6:10 to get an evac tower and try to contest high? I feel like even tho it would be 50/50 you might had more chances then what happened.
Dude, actually deleted this game last season after playing since day 1. Feels good to no longer get frustrated by it
How you doing lulu, i just got three shots in my arm it gonna be sore
r9 sentinal and r9 long bow or both combos but flatline instead of r9 is kinda meta rn
I know thats why I dont solo q anymore I have to squad up
As someone currently in pred, if you can’t get pass the promotional trials time after time again that’s simply a skill issue lmao. If you bring solo queuing into this, why do it in the first place? Solo queuing has been terrible for the past 2-3 seasons so find a team to play with.
I wouldn't have an issue with the trials if the hidden MMR didn't absolutely fucking torch every ranked game. Stat/rank wise I'm an above average player, I've been Masters for 9 of the 19 seasons, I'm not a stranger to play in high level lobbies but I SHOULD NOT BE IN MASTERS/PRED LOBBIES IN GOLD 3. It's been a miserable grind trying to play these last couple seasons since hidden MMR was introduced. Genuinely, I'm not trying to flex, brag, or suck myself off in the TH-cam comments. Sometimes I'll 3 stack in ranked but the majority of the time I'm either duo queing or solo queing and its always a wild card on the skill level of the teammates I get. Most of the time they clearly and respectfully shouldn't be in these lobbies due to either their current rank and/or overall skill. At the very least Respawn needs to cap the the highest lobby you can possibly get into depending on your current rank. With the current rank I'm at the absolute highest lobby I feel like the game should put me in is Plat 1... Maaaybe D4 - D2. Why am I fighting 3 stack pros and blatant cheaters with teammates that can't hold their own most of the time while I'm in Gold 3???
Im malding this season. Soloqing sucks when I'm shit in this game, I'm even shittier more now this rank.
Sooner or later I might be able to get graduate and get a degree out of this game because this getting tedious as hell.
You gain all the LP from your promotional trials, I did my first one into bronze and ended with 254 LP after 2 promotional games & the trial was passed.
damn apex is becoming league of legends slowly
People always complain about the ranked system.
I feel like at this point its going to be hard to satisfy everyone
Wish they’d just make ranked like they used too man. Sick of fighting off 12 squads in the last 2 rings it’s jarring
Love to see how they focus on keeping new players but forget who keeps the game alive are the older players.
You have no idea how many new players abandon the game as soon as they set foot in ranked...
On my way to masters I shouldn't be playing against active preds after placements and in G2. The SBMM implemented in ranked makes zero sense. The rank should be the skill. That SHOULD dictate your lobby. Lulu's point about 250LP for that win addresses a whole other issue. The game, when it comes to ranked, is in shambles. Has been for years.
At this point ranked can only be played by 3 stacks and even then it still sucks
the skill-based matchmaking is almost too good in the sense that I'm gold 2 rn fighting diamond to pred squads...like?? and of course I'm solo queing with actual bronze/silver teammates might just retire
I think this is my favourite team...
The New APEX Promotion Trials are like trying to get through 5 rounds of Wipeout without eating shit. A successful 2nd place game = NO LP = Trial Unsuccessful = BOOM You Stay in Gold. Ahhhh Apex, I Love You.
It is rough
Promotional Trials have some issues but overall I see them as a good thing because randoms in solo's actually try.
Solo Q is hard enough last/this season lol Promotional trials is a gut punch
Sentinel play is pristine
solo Q is no longer possible for the average non streamer lol
Promos definitely need tweaking and for the love of god get rid of mmr matchmaking. The whole point of giving me a rank is to face people my rank and climb to the skill level I’m at. Getting placed in silver then playing with nothing but diamonds the whole time is stupid.
Doesn’t matter…there’s always something someone is gonna bitch about.
Love3 to see the 3 amigas grind out a win. This season is definitely going to be harder than previous seasons but hey "whatcha gonna do." (Gibraltar voice)
In fact, all these changes are aimed at beginners. So that those who spend a lot of time in the game do not break away as quickly as they did before. So that there is no destruction of newcomers in low ranks. But the whole problem is that the old audience suffers from such decisions. The difference between a newcomer and an old player is felt less and less. And it's been really annoying lately
There isn’t even loss forgiveness in promotional when you start with no teammates. You can literally have 5 good games in a row but not pass. So dumb.
i dont understand how a bronze player can be in the same lobby as a 3 stack pred.
I'm gonna call You Lulu-Purple from this day on....
Goddamn Clara with the IGLing is fire.
We love Clara
The only reason why she think trials will kill the game is bc she isnt good enough to rank up. Same thing happened in season 13, the season she quit. It revealed her true skill level was like diamond at best and it was a reality check. If you cant rank up, trials or not, you belong in that rank you're stuck at. If the system was actually broken then the best players in the game wouldnt be able to rank up either, but thats not the case. The real preds are still in pred, the real masters are still in masters etc. Dont get mad bc you suck.
I’m giving up I’ve never seen anything so hard as this seasons ranked
Last seasons ranked sucked!! I had 19 ranked wins and barely made it to gold. You don’t get enough LP for a win
Idk I’m a fan of these trials, I just think they should have been done differently. The concept is good. The execution is not.
Maybe have more options, instead of a win get top 3 positioning with like 3 kills. I think this would stop rats.
Respawn really REALLY needs to get on their shii
Oh I feel so bad with your triple stack. I was Plat solo since season 4... and now I have to basically carry a win in my trials because team mates are always pylons. Can I do it? I guess... do I want to scream at two pylons so they listen... not really.
the elite system was the last time apex was good😭
You lose a couple hundred LP but we dont get rat pollution in the upper tiers
i haven’t played my promotion trial yet but seeing this, i do not want to LOL
Me and my squad stopped playing anyways. Next is you guys
I miss season 0 :( Simpler times
Oh no, the rain edited in there at the beginning, sad face ha. Nice try on that first game Lulu. Make it make sense with this ranking shit, smh. You definitely heard that team behind y'all, ha. Kraber Queen gets first dibs, haha. The music when the pain of 2nd place struck again, haha. Y'all work well together. Kalei is a damn good Loba. Clara's game sense, comms and Catalyst plays are clutch.
when the trial comes just win...
Trials have to be for keeping people grinding through the entire season to spend more money. No way this was seen as a genuine solution for rats
team sold first two games..? whats not to get
me on my 0/12 promotion trials to get out of gold
In my mind, Apex has been done only for money by EA after leaving TF2 die. Surprisly for them, Apex got a huge fame and so they decided to let it live a bit for making more money.
I just want TF3
This game gets less competitive every season, from ranked mode being scuffed to controller being the most viable input, just been kinda cringe to play lately imo
Don't forget the bad audio and rampant cheating. Re-installed Quake Champions last night.
Agreed! The devs need to tone back SBMM or this game is dead!
It's fullstack legends now
Can I just say, it makes me so happy to see you playing my girl watty ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Gotta snap with that wing! GG
Trials are horrible for players that play.
i like it, but i'm probably not getting out of gold trials...we'll see lol
Kraber queeeeeennnnn those shots were niceeeeeee 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I love watching you play