I have to agree with you. It is just one kind of made up liberal islam discussed by one kind of people who complexes for Western society, ideology and culture, and they have Capitalistic agenda to promote in the name of democracy. I wonder why they are not able,. willing and ready to sit down with the other side of the isle and let the people decide who is right or wrong? I have the same feelings about the religious extremists in Pakistan and else where.
Narrated Jubair bin Haiya: `Umar sent the Muslims to the great countries to fight the pagans….. When Al-Hurmuzan embraced Islam, `Umar said to him. "I would like to consult you regarding these countries which I intend to invade." Al-Hurmuzan said, "Yes, the example of these countries and their inhabitants who are the enemies. of the Muslims, is like a bird with a head, two wings and two legs; If one of its wings got broken, it would get up over its two legs, with one wing and the head; and if the other wing got broken, it would get up with two legs and a head, but if its head got destroyed, then the two legs, two wings and the head would become useless. The head stands for Khosrau, and one wing stands for Caesar and the other wing stands for Faris. So, order the Muslims to go towards Khosrau." So, `Umar sent us to Khosrau appointing An-Nu`man bin Muqrin as our commander. When we reached the land of the enemy, the representative of Khosrau came out with forty-thousand warriors, and an interpreter got up saying, "Let one of you talk to me!" Al-Mughira replied, "Ask whatever you wish." The other asked, "Who are you?" Al-Mughira replied, "We are some people from the Arabs; we led a hard, miserable, disastrous life: we used to suck the hides and the date stones from hunger; we used to wear clothes made up of fur of camels and hair of goats, and to worship trees and stones. While we were in this state, the Lord of the Heavens and the Earths, Elevated is His Remembrance and Majestic is His Highness, sent to us from among ourselves a Prophet whose father and mother ORDERED US TO FIGHT YOU TILL YOU WORSHIP ALLAH ALONE OR GIVE JIZYA; and our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says:-- "Whoever amongst us is killed shall go to Paradise TO LEAD SUCH A LUXURIOUS LIFE AS HE HAS NEVER SEEN, AND WHOEVER AMONGST US REMAINS ALIVE, SHALL BECOME YOUR MASTER." A master stroke of genius that gave us, the Momineen, motivation to kill, slaughter and enslave non-Muslims with a 100% clear conscience, without suffering any guilt or PTSD whatsoever for the next 1400 years. JazakAllah. 👍
What is the use of sucph discussions whether intellectual or secular. Not a single life of anyone has changed Islam has not been able to prove it is the best . Such discussions are useless , because for the last many centuries , intellectuals and scholars and ulema have been researching deen as academics But still have not reached anywhere. I personally believe that deen is not ILM, and hence must not be dealt with the tools used in ilm or knowledge. Deen' s reality lies within us by default, prophets were sent just to activate the buttons available by default within. We just need to get them activated and succeed. No academics ,. Just experience within Deen is not knowledge it is awareness. Deterioration of great deen started when the concept of TABEER and TAWEEL were introduced.
I have to agree with you. That is what hurting and discrediting the scholarly qualities of Ghamidi saheb's good part of religious thoughts. Not only all these three participants are three in one liberals but also not qualified to discuss religion in my opinion. Actually they are cashing Ghamidi saheb's school of thought.
There's *NO* school-of-Thought of Ghamadi. And never ever he'll be able to make any. You're comparing *him* , literally *a drop* with our Respected *"Oceans of fresh water"* .
Saray hi ocean me drops hai .ghamidi bhi usi nka hissa hai. Islam khuda ka aik universal pegham hai jo puri insaniyat k liye hai.Secularism aik political ideology hai aor theocracy bho aik political ideology hai.A means to an End. Agar secularism se Islam ki tashreeh ho you secularism sai or agar theocracy se Islam ki tashreeh tou wo sai hai. Sada alfaz me Allah ka pegham or package Mercedes me bhejo ya BMW matter nhi krta.Matter krta hai jis gadi se ziada behtri se deliver ho us se bhejna. Agar Allah ne ni btaya k Mercedes se bhejna hai ya BMW se tou Tum konsau Khuda ban kr ye dawah kr rhe ho?
@@wali9378 Thanks for sharing your thoughts! You’re right that Islam is a universal message for all humanity, but the delivery and interpretation of this message matter significantly, especially when scholars are involved. Firstly, Ghamidi’s approach often diverges from mainstream scholarship. While he may present his views as rooted in Islam, they lack the depth and continuity found in classical interpretations upheld by generations of respected scholars. When I say he's a 'drop,' it’s because his interpretations often stand alone without the extensive traditional support seen in the 'oceans of fresh water' of other scholars. Secondly, regarding your car analogy, I’d argue it’s not just about delivering Allah’s message in any 'vehicle' like a Mercedes or BMW. Islam isn’t just a message; it’s a way of life that’s been preserved through established principles, scholarship, and methodologies. *If* Ghamidi’s interpretations don’t align with these, it’s *not* simply a different car; *it’s a completely different road* that doesn’t lead to the same destination. So, it’s essential to scrutinize whether these modern views stay true to the authentic teachings of Islam. In short, the credibility of a scholar isn’t just about conveying Islam's message but doing so within the framework that has been rigorously preserved by genuine Islamic scholarship. If have any queries, I would be grateful to assist my Brother. May Allah guide you to Al-Haq Al-Islam.
Actually it is an excellent way of misleading, spreading and marketing liberalism/capitalism and remodeling Islam in Pakistan. I have the same feeling for the other side of the isle (religious extremism).
"If there is an Islam that causes no discomfort to oppressors, where liquor bars operate without fear, those who indulge in immoral acts face no obstacles, the oppressed are mistreated, and the rights of the poor are taken away, then know that this is not true Islam; it is merely an illusion." Islam is not here just to.pray and fast and leave everything aside its here for Nijaaaaaaam
Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri said, "We captured some women from the area of Awtas who were already married, and we disliked having sexual relations with them because they already had husbands. So, we asked the Prophet about this matter, and this Ayah (verse) was revealed, "Also forbidden are women already married, EXCEPT those who are your londies and slave girls." Al Qur'an 4:24 Consequently, we had sexual relations with these women." .This hadeeth is classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani in Irwa’ al-Ghaleel, 187.
معزرت کے ساتھ حسن بھائی کی گفتگو سے ایسا لگتا ہے فکر فراحی مکتبہ فکر کے علاوہ تمام مکتبہ فکر میں اقلیت کے حقوق کا تصور نھی ہے۔ 😮 انسانی حقوق کا تصور تو غیر مسلموں میں بھی ہے۔ ایک بات ضرور ہے خاص فکر فراحی کا نام لینے والوں میں کہ ان کو اقلیت کے حقوق کی زیادہ فکر ہے اکثریت کے حقوق کے مقابلے میں۔
That is right. Actually he is selling what he wants and is required to sell. Besides, he or his stooges are not at all qualified to discuss Islam or any other religion.
@@aamerm4 Do you mean aisi study jo mazhab say aur doori paida karay? Woh toe sirf khassa hai liberal aur religious conservatives ka? It takes pure intensions.
@@AzurBlue-b5y I respect your right of opinion. However, it is not my intention to propagate against any individual or a group. Ghamidi saheb kay institution mein bahut see achi baatein bhi hain laikin unki aksar nake kaawishon aur tehqeeqat ko aisay liberalized/Westernized loge na sirf nuqsan pahuncha rahay hain bulkeh logon ko aik makhsoos simt mein steer bhi ker rahay hain. Deen say door ya nazdeek koi bhi ho sakta hai, mein bhi aur aap bhi. That is not my major concern or point. My concern is the rising liberal and conservative factions and groups in Islam who are misleading and spreading disinformation about Islam and its teachings as per their needs and wants. Whatever I see, hear and observe, I write about it with full honesty because I care for our religion, beliefs and Muslim Ummah from core of my heart, and I do not take sides. It is highly important for all of us to be honest, sincere and impartial when it comes to concluding and realizing what is wrong and where it is wrong in Muslim Ummah. Growing modern and conservative factions and firqa parasti in Islam is hurting and dividing Muslim Ummah badly. Chahay woh religious extremists hon ya liberal extremists, yeh sub Islam kay nam per baith ker ayyashi ker rahay hain aur in maien koi bhi Islam aur Muslamanon kay laiy kissi bhi qism ki qurbani dainy kay liay tayyyar naheen. Sirf baataein he baatein. Mein toe isko religious con-artistry kehta hoon.
@@m.s5339 Muhtaram aap ki baat aur naseehat dono theek hain, laikin bhai unka ka kya kia jaay jo na sirf partition kay baad kay nau-daulattiay hain aur Western complex, culture and liberalism inki zindahi ka maqsood aur meraaj hain?
Ghamidi Sb kee khidmat min: Ghamidi Sb nay yeh baat wazih kee hoi hy k shariat min quran ka hukam aur rasool kee sunnat fiqhi ijtehadat jis min insan ka ilm o aqal use hotee hy dono(Shariat aur fiqh) min farq hy aur es farq ko wazih karnay k liyay kuch examples bhi dein aur yeh baat wazih kee k dono kee ahmiat apni jagha par hy likin same nahin hain. Mashallah, buhat khobi say bayan kia hy. Ab kuch sawalat quran k liyay jo paidah hosaktay hain ausk liyay bhi yeh baat wazih kardein k aik hy quran min Allah kee baat aur dosree hy ulama kee understanding jo k translation aur Tafseer kee shakal min aatee hy aur es k liyay istedlal bhi hota hy tu ain ain dono(Allah kee baat aur ulama kee understanding) min kesay farq kia jai? Kesay maloom hoga k yahan tuk tu Allah kee baat hy aur yahan say ulama kee understanding shuro hojatee hy? Ain dono ka farq malhooz na rakha jai tu kia problem waqi hosaktee hy? Aur kia ulama k principles of understanding of the Quran agar different hun including aapk jo Meezan min bayan hoyay hain tu kesay maloom hoga k yahan tuk quran kee baat hy aur yahan say kisee Scholar ya mufassir kee baat hy??
This person claimed that Ustaz Ghamidi consistently lost debates to him on topics such as the existence of God. Furthermore, he alleged that Ustaz Ghamidi fears losing his life more than an agnostic individual. The link to his statement is below. I kindly request you to humbly ask Ustaz Ghamidi to address his claims th-cam.com/video/slzkPeWpHws/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUVYXdhaXMgaXFiYWwgdnMgZ2hhbWRp
حسن صاحب قیصر صاحب نے کل اپنی لائیو ویڈیو میں کہا کہ آپ نے ان سے پبلک ٹاک سے انکار کیا ہے اگر آپ صحیح ہیں تو بات کر لیں ورنہ اس بات کی تردید کریں جو قیصر صاحب کہہ رہے ہیں کیونکہ وہ بارہا کہہ چکے کہ آپ لوگ ان سے بات نہیں کرتے نہ تیمور لال صاحب اور نہ RCM's
@SyedAZafar-ji9gm huzoor aap "khirad afrozi" k mutaliq tafseel se kuch farma dain k ye kya hoti hai or Mera is session ko khirad afroz kehna kis tarhe ghalat hai main aap ka mamnoon Hoon ga
@@shoaibturabi7712 Bhai! qaseedah aap nay parha apnay in liberal bhaion ki shaan mein, Main nay naheen parha. Lihaaza aap he bataain iss qaseedah goi ki wajah kya hai. Mujhay toe yeh sari discussion aik he qism kay aik he agenda waalay logon ki guftagoo lugti jo aik makhsoos mission ko promote kertay nazar aatay hain. Ab yeh alag baat hai keh aap kiss angle aur kiss zaroorat say apnay in khiradi hazraat ko daikhna pasand kertay hain.
Well, there are few things in this discussion which made sense and are appealing, but it seems a well thought ahead discussion between these three in one gentlemen who happened to be liberal Muslims and Westernized in my opinion to present and promote their kind of liberal Islam. So, it will be wrong and unjustified to consider this discussion as truly conclusive, convincing, legitimate and credible. It would have been better if this liberal group of Ghamidi saheb's school of thought would have invited or included the other scholars of the other side to let the viewers decide who is right and wrong. Besides, these three liberal Muslims (in my opinion), specially Hassan Ilyas are not not qualified to discuss Islam and other religion because they have no proven religious academic qualifications and certification to discuss Islam in particular and other religions in general. Also it is important to note that some points raised and quotes by Hassan Ilyas and his allied liberal panelists are not Islamic but misleading to sell capitalism/secularism in the name of human rights and democracy in my opinion. Suppose if misquoting and misinterpreting the word ' Shoorah or Jamhoor' (democracy) is the solution to end all problems of this world then why the Muslims all over the world including today's liberal Muslims do not accept what the rest of the non Muslims in this world who are also in majority say and stand stand against Muslims? It is highly important to discuss Islam or any other religion without being biased, partial and having the influence or agenda of other powers or school of thoughts. The problem with such liberal panelists is that they have an agenda to let down and bash Islam, its beautiful teachings and to promote a new liberal version of Islam which not only suits to their needs and wants and but also as per agenda of their Western masters. Having said that, I have the same feelings about the religious extremists of Pakistan and elsewhere be they belong to any religion that they are not able ready and willing to sit down with the other side to come to a constructive and appealing conclusion for all. Extremism of any side and kind is not only destructive and divisive but also against humanity in my opinion.
حسن صاحب یہ لطیفہ نہیں بلکہ حقیقت ہے۔ مولانا مفتی محمود نے مارشل لاء کے نفاذ کے بعد ایک تقریر میں یہ واقعہ بیان کیا اور اخبارات میں رپورٹ بھی ہوا۔ بھٹو صاحب اور PNA کے مذاکرات کے دوران اپوزیشن کی ٹیم نے نماز کی ادائیگی کے لئیے وقفہ لیا اور جب واپس آۓ تو بھٹو صاحب نےکہا “دیکھئیے مولانا دیر آپ کی جانب سے ہو رہی ہے “ اس پر مولانا نے کہا شکر کریں اصل میں تو نمازیں پچاس فرض ہوئ تھیں۔ بھٹو نے مسکرا کر کہا “ کیا ہی اچھا ہوتا اگر نمازیں پچاس ہوتیں کم از کم میں تو سکون سے حکومت کر سکتا “
In other words Bhutto and that Mullah who was against making of Pakistan were making fun of Islam in the name of sham democracy and politics. Besides, the question is: What Bhutto had to do with Islam except cashing it for the sake of vote and becoming Ameer-ul-momeneen?
@@wali9378 On him denying the establisment of sharia, obligation of hijab, interpreting Islam tp a person aqal so many. This man is shaitaan and he is sitting with an atheist.
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Ghamidi sahib ….. All your knowledge and oration is only a waste!!!! We havw admired you for your knowledge and analysis. But there is a bid contradiction between what you say and what you do. Qoul o feal mein tazaad. Ghamidi sahib yoh always say that a Muslim should be Qaaim bil Qist. But where is your conscience when you adopt a silence on the atrocities you see happening around you and about which you are fully aware. Why can’t you say one word of condemnation on Arshad Shareef’s brutal killing, on zille shah’s killing, on assassination attempts on Imran khan, on brutal killing of scores of people in D chowk, and many other things happening around you. Ghamidi Sahab you have disappointed us so much that we have stopped listening to all religious scholars. You all are the same. You have words words and words. Are you quiet on all this only because your sympathies are with noon league? Or because your son works in Geo? Ghamidi sahib why are you allergic to Imran khan’s concept of Riyasat e madina? By that Imran khan means empowerment of power and discouraging of the dominance of elite. What is wrong in this? Ghamidi sahib lafzoñ ke saath na kheleñ. Please apna ehtisaab karleñ. Ghamidi sahib you have always portrayed yourself as a humble person, but there is a clear pride and arrogance in your personality which makes you belittle others. E.g calling tasawuf as zalalat and then trying to justify it by referring to its meaning in Arabic language. Ghamidi sahib please leave this arrogance and leave this curtain of nasibiyyat on your eyes. Plz pray to Allah that you are raised in the army if Ahle l bait and sihaba alsaliheen and not with Yazeed and his army!
I literally came to this video to listen some rational arguments but all I got was Logical inconsistencies, Straw manning and evasion
I have to agree with you. It is just one kind of made up liberal islam discussed by one kind of people who complexes for Western society, ideology and culture, and they have Capitalistic agenda to promote in the name of democracy. I wonder why they are not able,. willing and ready to sit down with the other side of the isle and let the people decide who is right or wrong? I have the same feelings about the religious extremists in Pakistan and else where.
For instance? Mind to point out any?
Who is here after QAR video exposing them😂
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Qaiser se kabhi poocho laundi, choti bachiyon aur biwiyon ko rape kesay kartay hain aur peetatay kesay hain. Detail main bataye ga.
Love u Qaisar bhai ✋
Three intellectuals with sensible discussion....a rare thing in Pakistan.
Who is here after qar expose him secular talk in the name of islam
Narrated Jubair bin Haiya:
`Umar sent the Muslims to the great countries to fight the pagans…..
When Al-Hurmuzan embraced Islam,
`Umar said to him. "I would like to consult you regarding these countries which I intend to invade."
Al-Hurmuzan said, "Yes, the example of these countries and their inhabitants who are the enemies. of the Muslims, is like a bird with a head, two wings and two legs; If one of its wings got broken, it would get up over its two legs, with one wing and the head; and if the other wing got broken, it would get up with two legs and a head, but if its head got destroyed, then the two legs, two wings and the head would become useless. The head stands for Khosrau, and one wing stands for Caesar and the other wing stands for Faris. So, order the Muslims to go towards Khosrau."
So, `Umar sent us to Khosrau appointing An-Nu`man bin Muqrin as our commander. When we reached the land of the enemy, the representative of Khosrau came out with forty-thousand warriors, and an interpreter got up saying, "Let one of you talk to me!"
Al-Mughira replied, "Ask whatever you wish."
The other asked, "Who are you?"
Al-Mughira replied, "We are some people from the Arabs; we led a hard, miserable, disastrous life: we used to suck the hides and the date stones from hunger; we used to wear clothes made up of fur of camels and hair of goats, and to worship trees and stones.
While we were in this state, the Lord of the Heavens and the Earths, Elevated is His Remembrance and Majestic is His Highness, sent to us from among ourselves a Prophet whose father and mother ORDERED US TO FIGHT YOU TILL YOU WORSHIP ALLAH ALONE OR GIVE JIZYA; and our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says:--
"Whoever amongst us is killed shall go to Paradise TO LEAD SUCH A LUXURIOUS LIFE AS HE HAS NEVER SEEN, AND WHOEVER AMONGST US REMAINS ALIVE, SHALL BECOME YOUR MASTER."
A master stroke of genius that gave us, the Momineen, motivation to kill, slaughter and enslave non-Muslims with a 100% clear conscience, without suffering any guilt or PTSD whatsoever for the next 1400 years. JazakAllah. 👍
What is the use of sucph discussions whether intellectual or secular.
Not a single life of anyone has changed
Islam has not been able to prove it is the best .
Such discussions are useless , because for the last many centuries , intellectuals and scholars and ulema have been researching deen as academics
But still have not reached anywhere.
I personally believe that deen is not ILM, and hence must not be dealt with the tools used in ilm or knowledge.
Deen' s reality lies within us by default, prophets were sent just to activate the buttons available by default within.
We just need to get them activated and succeed.
No academics ,. Just experience within
Deen is not knowledge it is awareness.
Deterioration of great deen started when the concept of TABEER and TAWEEL were introduced.
What a nice talk of Hamza Abbasi, it inspired me a lot.
@@zulfiqarmahmood8015 Now seculars will inspire us [The Muslims] ?
ماشاءاللہ ۔۔کیسا شاندار تجزیہ ۔۔۔بڑی گہرائی ھے اس میں ۔کہ اقلیتی لوگ تو مقامی لوگ تھے اس دھرتی کے باسی تھے انکو ہم نے بیگانہ کر دیا۔۔بہت خوب
Secular talk in the name of Islam.
I have to agree with you. That is what hurting and discrediting the scholarly qualities of Ghamidi saheb's good part of religious thoughts. Not only all these three participants are three in one liberals but also not qualified to discuss religion in my opinion. Actually they are cashing Ghamidi saheb's school of thought.
@SyedAZafar-ji9gm no, ghamdi is same as these three
There's *NO* school-of-Thought of Ghamadi. And never ever he'll be able to make any. You're comparing *him* , literally *a drop* with our Respected *"Oceans of fresh water"* .
Saray hi ocean me drops hai .ghamidi bhi usi nka hissa hai.
Islam khuda ka aik universal pegham hai jo puri insaniyat k liye hai.Secularism aik political ideology hai aor theocracy bho aik political ideology hai.A means to an End.
Agar secularism se Islam ki tashreeh ho you secularism sai or agar theocracy se Islam ki tashreeh tou wo sai hai.
Sada alfaz me Allah ka pegham or package Mercedes me bhejo ya BMW matter nhi krta.Matter krta hai jis gadi se ziada behtri se deliver ho us se bhejna.
Agar Allah ne ni btaya k Mercedes se bhejna hai ya BMW se tou Tum konsau Khuda ban kr ye dawah kr rhe ho?
@@wali9378 Thanks for sharing your thoughts! You’re right that Islam is a universal message for all humanity, but the delivery and interpretation of this message matter significantly, especially when scholars are involved.
Firstly, Ghamidi’s approach often diverges from mainstream scholarship. While he may present his views as rooted in Islam, they lack the depth and continuity found in classical interpretations upheld by generations of respected scholars. When I say he's a 'drop,' it’s because his interpretations often stand alone without the extensive traditional support seen in the 'oceans of fresh water' of other scholars.
Secondly, regarding your car analogy, I’d argue it’s not just about delivering Allah’s message in any 'vehicle' like a Mercedes or BMW. Islam isn’t just a message; it’s a way of life that’s been preserved through established principles, scholarship, and methodologies. *If* Ghamidi’s interpretations don’t align with these, it’s *not* simply a different car; *it’s a completely different road* that doesn’t lead to the same destination. So, it’s essential to scrutinize whether these modern views stay true to the authentic teachings of Islam.
In short, the credibility of a scholar isn’t just about conveying Islam's message but doing so within the framework that has been rigorously preserved by genuine Islamic scholarship.
If have any queries, I would be grateful to assist my Brother.
May Allah guide you to Al-Haq Al-Islam.
Maa sha Allah
Mashallah khobsurat guftugu
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Mashallah ❤
Excellent way of spreading the message and changing public opinion
Actually it is an excellent way of misleading, spreading and marketing liberalism/capitalism and remodeling Islam in Pakistan. I have the same feeling for the other side of the isle (religious extremism).
@ I respect your opinion.
Islami sha'ayer ko badalnay ki naakaam koshish..
What a beautiful setting.
Great conversation.
We need like Hassan sb scholars ❤❤❤
Thank you very much Great Ghamdi sb.❤❤❤
"If there is an Islam that causes no discomfort to oppressors, where liquor bars operate without fear, those who indulge in immoral acts face no obstacles, the oppressed are mistreated, and the rights of the poor are taken away, then know that this is not true Islam; it is merely an illusion."
Islam is not here just to.pray and fast and leave everything aside its here for Nijaaaaaaam
Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri said, "We captured some women from the area of Awtas who were already married, and we disliked having sexual relations with them because they already had husbands. So, we asked the Prophet about this matter, and this Ayah (verse) was revealed,
"Also forbidden are women already married, EXCEPT those who are your londies and slave girls." Al Qur'an 4:24
Consequently, we had sexual relations with these women."
.This hadeeth is classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani in Irwa’ al-Ghaleel, 187.
@@behtereen4187you are wrong about this revelation....please study again...
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معزرت کے ساتھ حسن بھائی کی گفتگو سے ایسا لگتا ہے فکر فراحی مکتبہ فکر کے علاوہ تمام مکتبہ فکر میں اقلیت کے حقوق کا تصور نھی ہے۔ 😮
انسانی حقوق کا تصور تو غیر مسلموں میں بھی ہے۔
ایک بات ضرور ہے خاص فکر فراحی کا نام لینے والوں میں کہ ان کو اقلیت کے حقوق کی زیادہ فکر ہے اکثریت کے حقوق کے مقابلے میں۔
That is right. Actually he is selling what he wants and is required to sell. Besides, he or his stooges are not at all qualified to discuss Islam or any other religion.
@@SyedAZafar-ji9gm aap ke mutabig qualified kon he?
Ap bhi qualified ho sakty hen agr islam study kr len
@@aamerm4 Do you mean aisi study jo mazhab say aur doori paida karay? Woh toe sirf khassa hai liberal aur religious conservatives ka? It takes pure intensions.
@@SyedAZafar-ji9gmye tu aap ka Faham hai Kai voh deen se door hain.
@@AzurBlue-b5y I respect your right of opinion. However, it is not my intention to propagate against any individual or a group. Ghamidi saheb kay institution mein bahut see achi baatein bhi hain laikin unki aksar nake kaawishon aur tehqeeqat ko aisay liberalized/Westernized loge na sirf nuqsan pahuncha rahay hain bulkeh logon ko aik makhsoos simt mein steer bhi ker rahay hain. Deen say door ya nazdeek koi bhi ho sakta hai, mein bhi aur aap bhi. That is not my major concern or point. My concern is the rising liberal and conservative factions and groups in Islam who are misleading and spreading disinformation about Islam and its teachings as per their needs and wants. Whatever I see, hear and observe, I write about it with full honesty because I care for our religion, beliefs and Muslim Ummah from core of my heart, and I do not take sides. It is highly important for all of us to be honest, sincere and impartial when it comes to concluding and realizing what is wrong and where it is wrong in Muslim Ummah. Growing modern and conservative factions and firqa parasti in Islam is hurting and dividing Muslim Ummah badly. Chahay woh religious extremists hon ya liberal extremists, yeh sub Islam kay nam per baith ker ayyashi ker rahay hain aur in maien koi bhi Islam aur Muslamanon kay laiy kissi bhi qism ki qurbani dainy kay liay tayyyar naheen. Sirf baataein he baatein. Mein toe isko religious con-artistry kehta hoon.
Humen ghandi sahab se behtreen baat Abu hanifa ki lagti hai kyunke wo sahaba ke daur me in the jab ghandi sahab ki paidaish ka tasawwur bhi nhi tha.
Please upload whole events activities. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
❤❤❤❤good debate
Actually one way and one sided discussion. Isko debate kehna munasib naheen hoga.
Debate isko nhi kaha jata hai bete, grow up bete
@@m.s5339 Muhtaram aap ki baat aur naseehat dono theek hain, laikin bhai unka ka kya kia jaay jo na sirf partition kay baad kay nau-daulattiay hain aur Western complex, culture and liberalism inki zindahi ka maqsood aur meraaj hain?
Ghamidi Sb kee khidmat min:
Ghamidi Sb nay yeh baat wazih kee hoi hy k shariat min quran ka hukam aur rasool kee sunnat fiqhi ijtehadat jis min insan ka ilm o aqal use hotee hy dono(Shariat aur fiqh) min farq hy aur es farq ko wazih karnay k liyay kuch examples bhi dein aur yeh baat wazih kee k dono kee ahmiat apni jagha par hy likin same nahin hain. Mashallah, buhat khobi say bayan kia hy. Ab kuch sawalat quran k liyay jo paidah hosaktay hain ausk liyay bhi yeh baat wazih kardein k aik hy quran min Allah kee baat aur dosree hy ulama kee understanding jo k translation aur Tafseer kee shakal min aatee hy aur es k liyay istedlal bhi hota hy tu ain ain dono(Allah kee baat aur ulama kee understanding) min kesay farq kia jai? Kesay maloom hoga k yahan tuk tu Allah kee baat hy aur yahan say ulama kee understanding shuro hojatee hy? Ain dono ka farq malhooz na rakha jai tu kia problem waqi hosaktee hy? Aur kia ulama k principles of understanding of the Quran agar different hun including aapk jo Meezan min bayan hoyay hain tu kesay maloom hoga k yahan tuk quran kee baat hy aur yahan say kisee Scholar ya mufassir kee baat hy??
او مغرب کے دلے، حسن الیاس۔ تو اس ملک میں اپنی پسند کا نظام لائے گا، چل بھڑوے ریفرنڈم کروالے۔
QAR video exposing them
Timestamps?
Why do these people always just sit in echo chambers don’t ever debate with opposition?
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Peak of secularism....Totally opposite psycholgy from sahaba..
جناب یہ ایک علمی گفتگو ہے کوی نظام نافظ نہیں ہونے جارہا اتنا چراغ پا ھونے کی کیا ضرورت
شُکر اُس رَب کا کہ جس نے مُجھ ناچیز کو استادِ محترم غامدی صاحب اور اُستادِ محترم وحید الدین خان صاحب جیسی عظیم نعمتوں سے نوازا! 😍 💕
It’s necessary to post this at everywhere?
@@Ssst676 Yes! 🙂
@@Bilal_A_K_Niazai آپ خود کو ناچیز مت کہو کسی کے مقابلے میں۔ اندھی پیروی بہت خطرناک ہے آپ کے لیے اور جس کی پیروی کی جارہی ہے۔ کبھی تو تنقید بھی کرو۔
آپ نے بالکل درست فرمایا، میں آپ سے اتفاق کرتا ہوں- یہاں لفظ "ناچیز" میں نے خدا کے مقابل میں استعمال کیا ہے، کسی انسان کے مقابل میں نہیں-
@Ssst676
غلام احمد پرویز اور ایراان کر علی دشتی کی سیرت النبی تیس سال بھی پڑھیں
This person claimed that Ustaz Ghamidi consistently lost debates to him on topics such as the existence of God. Furthermore, he alleged that Ustaz Ghamidi fears losing his life more than an agnostic individual. The link to his statement is below. I kindly request you to humbly ask Ustaz Ghamidi to address his claims th-cam.com/video/slzkPeWpHws/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUVYXdhaXMgaXFiYWwgdnMgZ2hhbWRp
بچہ پہلے 18 منٹ ماحول بناتا رہا پھر اپنے اصل ایجنڈے پر آگیا ۔
حسن صاحب قیصر صاحب نے کل اپنی لائیو ویڈیو میں کہا کہ آپ نے ان سے پبلک ٹاک سے انکار کیا ہے اگر آپ صحیح ہیں تو بات کر لیں ورنہ اس بات کی تردید کریں جو قیصر صاحب کہہ رہے ہیں کیونکہ وہ بارہا کہہ چکے کہ آپ لوگ ان سے بات نہیں کرتے نہ تیمور لال صاحب اور نہ RCM's
Qaisar sir inn padhay likay ghaddon ki achchi operation kr laitay hain..
bohat khirad afroz guftagu thi hassan bhai
O' bhai! 'Khirad' kabhi one way or one kind naheen hoti.
@SyedAZafar-ji9gm huzoor aap "khirad afrozi" k mutaliq tafseel se kuch farma dain k ye kya hoti hai or Mera is session ko khirad afroz kehna kis tarhe ghalat hai main aap ka mamnoon Hoon ga
@@shoaibturabi7712 Bhai! qaseedah aap nay parha apnay in liberal bhaion ki shaan mein, Main nay naheen parha. Lihaaza aap he bataain iss qaseedah goi ki wajah kya hai. Mujhay toe yeh sari discussion aik he qism kay aik he agenda waalay logon ki guftagoo lugti jo aik makhsoos mission ko promote kertay nazar aatay hain. Ab yeh alag baat hai keh aap kiss angle aur kiss zaroorat say apnay in khiradi hazraat ko daikhna pasand kertay hain.
Well, there are few things in this discussion which made sense and are appealing, but it seems a well thought ahead discussion between these three in one gentlemen who happened to be liberal Muslims and Westernized in my opinion to present and promote their kind of liberal Islam. So, it will be wrong and unjustified to consider this discussion as truly conclusive, convincing, legitimate and credible. It would have been better if this liberal group of Ghamidi saheb's school of thought would have invited or included the other scholars of the other side to let the viewers decide who is right and wrong. Besides, these three liberal Muslims (in my opinion), specially Hassan Ilyas are not not qualified to discuss Islam and other religion because they have no proven religious academic qualifications and certification to discuss Islam in particular and other religions in general. Also it is important to note that some points raised and quotes by Hassan Ilyas and his allied liberal panelists are not Islamic but misleading to sell capitalism/secularism in the name of human rights and democracy in my opinion. Suppose if misquoting and misinterpreting the word ' Shoorah or Jamhoor' (democracy) is the solution to end all problems of this world then why the Muslims all over the world including today's liberal Muslims do not accept what the rest of the non Muslims in this world who are also in majority say and stand stand against Muslims? It is highly important to discuss Islam or any other religion without being biased, partial and having the influence or agenda of other powers or school of thoughts. The problem with such liberal panelists is that they have an agenda to let down and bash Islam, its beautiful teachings and to promote a new liberal version of Islam which not only suits to their needs and wants and but also as per agenda of their Western masters. Having said that, I have the same feelings about the religious extremists of Pakistan and elsewhere be they belong to any religion that they are not able ready and willing to sit down with the other side to come to a constructive and appealing conclusion for all. Extremism of any side and kind is not only destructive and divisive but also against humanity in my opinion.
حسن صاحب یہ لطیفہ نہیں بلکہ حقیقت ہے۔ مولانا مفتی محمود نے مارشل لاء کے نفاذ کے بعد ایک تقریر میں یہ واقعہ بیان کیا اور اخبارات میں رپورٹ بھی ہوا۔
بھٹو صاحب اور PNA کے مذاکرات کے دوران اپوزیشن کی ٹیم نے نماز کی ادائیگی کے لئیے وقفہ لیا اور جب واپس آۓ تو بھٹو صاحب نےکہا “دیکھئیے مولانا دیر آپ کی جانب سے ہو رہی ہے “ اس پر مولانا نے کہا شکر کریں اصل میں تو نمازیں پچاس فرض ہوئ تھیں۔ بھٹو نے مسکرا کر کہا “ کیا ہی اچھا ہوتا اگر نمازیں پچاس ہوتیں کم از کم میں تو سکون سے حکومت کر سکتا “
In other words Bhutto and that Mullah who was against making of Pakistan were making fun of Islam in the name of sham democracy and politics. Besides, the question is: What Bhutto had to do with Islam except cashing it for the sake of vote and becoming Ameer-ul-momeneen?
Orr uskay baad molana ne kya jawaab diya wo b liko naa ghadday..
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Logical fallacies 😅
Hasan ilyas sb, qaisar raja se bach ke rhiey ga .
Wo sab seculars ko khata ja rha hy ap ehtyat krain.
Qaisar sahab ki favorite food = aitheism.. Secularism.. Agnostism and much more isms..
My father listens to Ghamdi, unfortunately Hassan Ilyas is remodeling Islam even more then his teacher. I have to disagree with him.
Disagree on the basis of?
@@wali9378 On him denying the establisment of sharia, obligation of hijab, interpreting Islam tp a person aqal so many. This man is shaitaan and he is sitting with an atheist.
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Ghamidi sahib ….. All your knowledge and oration is only a waste!!!! We havw admired you for your knowledge and analysis. But there is a bid contradiction between what you say and what you do. Qoul o feal mein tazaad. Ghamidi sahib yoh always say that a Muslim should be Qaaim bil Qist. But where is your conscience when you adopt a silence on the atrocities you see happening around you and about which you are fully aware. Why can’t you say one word of condemnation on Arshad Shareef’s brutal killing, on zille shah’s killing, on assassination attempts on Imran khan, on brutal killing of scores of people in D chowk, and many other things happening around you. Ghamidi Sahab you have disappointed us so much that we have stopped listening to all religious scholars. You all are the same. You have words words and words.
Are you quiet on all this only because your sympathies are with noon league? Or because your son works in Geo?
Ghamidi sahib why are you allergic to Imran khan’s concept of Riyasat e madina? By that Imran khan means empowerment of power and discouraging of the dominance of elite. What is wrong in this? Ghamidi sahib lafzoñ ke saath na kheleñ. Please apna ehtisaab karleñ.
Ghamidi sahib you have always portrayed yourself as a humble person, but there is a clear pride and arrogance in your personality which makes you belittle others. E.g calling tasawuf as zalalat and then trying to justify it by referring to its meaning in Arabic language.
Ghamidi sahib please leave this arrogance and leave this curtain of nasibiyyat on your eyes. Plz pray to Allah that you are raised in the army if Ahle l bait and sihaba alsaliheen and not with Yazeed and his army!