@YTReid755 I've been saying the same thing about Tanev and trading Hronek it makes much more sense. As bad as this sounds because I don't want to lose Big Z Joshua and Lindholm especially for nothing I'd strongly consider trading Boeser because I think Lekkerimaki will be a better player than overall. It would be a very hard thing to do but when facing losing very good players for nothing that you spent assets on to get you need to trade players you do have signed and keep them.
@@sterlingmork2974 blueger is not easily replaceable given how cheap we can get him for lol. the 3rd line with bluegar/garland/joshua was the best in the leaque at one point for christ sake. Also I highly doubt myers gets more than 3.5m. At that price point with his size and his recent play, he's well worth it. The myers hate memes are no longer justified given what we can probably keep him on for.
Nobody is giving Hronek 60+ million for not being at his best in the second half of the season and into the playoffs. Still, just because he wasn't playing his best doesn't mean he became a net negative
Why did we trade a number 1 and 2nd round picks for Hronek? If he was going to cost the Canucks big money. It’s a waste of picks but it did make sense considering Canucks can’t draft. Tyler Myers is too inconsistent to still be a Canuck he did have a okay playoff but his regular season was frustrating. I think the Canucks are in Goalie controversy because Silvos looked very good and would Demko take a cut in starting? If the Canucks knew how to draft we wouldn’t have wasted a pick on Olli Juolevi and drafted one of the solid defenceman in that same draft like Charlie McAvoy.
Hronek says he has trouble keeping weight on in the back end of the season and he wears down. How can you pay a player 8 million a year for half a season.
That left Pettersson in a weird spot playing with two bottom six wingers. I almost wonder if they should have loaded up the top two lines more and did away with the Joshua/Lindholm/Garland line. Maybe put Garland with Miller and Boeser and then have Hoggy/Lindy/Petey on the second. Idk.
You're over rating Demcko. He has not delivered he has physical issues. Silov will be cheaper and has proven to be a playoff calibre goalie. Neither are Vezina calibre. You're ignoring the competition. Typical Vancouver thinking. That's why we have Petterson getting a game breaker's salary whose never broken a game.
Only if Josh and Z will take a discount, otherwise it’s fine to let them go. Lots of free agents available. If Canucks trade Demko, Samsonov would be a solid guy to get in free agency.
Trade hronek, if we can haul up a top 6 forward, a top blue chip prospect and picks, trade Demmer. Hurts to say that but I believe in silovs. It's about what's best for the team and not about your feelings.
Probably not getting a haul for Hronek considering his arb case, but you should be able to get something good in return still because RHD are very much coveted around the league
@@user-by3nd4rm6c yeah, i think you can get a solid return from a team that sees the $8m price tag and is already like "hell yeah, we're fine with that"
Trading Demko away would be as bad of a decision as signining OEL was, dude got injured at a bad time. He has all summer to recover and gain strength, you get silovs to back him up and play 30 games and we can keep our vezina finalist healthy. Shipping him now would be a premature move
Yeah, trading Demko would be ludicrous, just worry about managing his workload, especially since he hasn't quite nailed down his ability to be a workhorse
I hear so many people saying to trade Demko and run with Silovs. They must have a short memory. Spencer Martin had a good short run which won him the back up job but he lost it quickly. Silovs had a sub 900 sv% and a near 3 GAA. He may be good but needs more time and experience.
Yea the goalie trade seems premature. Silovs need at very min: 1 season with 30 games under his belt before anyone can declare him a starter. I wouldn't be surprised if he was shell shocked already and can't regain from.
Exactly, I would keep him but he is injured every year. Even when he is not injured you watch him in the net and he looks like he is constipated and hunched over.
You can get a whole lot for Petterson and Hughes... Bring in real playoff performers. Sign Joshua and Lindholm and make sure the return for Petey and Hughes is all about shoring up players that have proven themselves in the playoffs and could fit with JT and Lindolm YOU HAVE TO sign Zadorov. Dump Hronek he was marginal at best when it counted.
Well if Nucks can resign Silovs for 3+ years at an affordable cap hit, it makes sense to keep both. If not, good luck getting value on Silovs later. Canucks masters of squandering assets lol
demko seems to be injured at key points or for significant times on a recurring basis - i would do the due diligence on trading him for a lucrative haul
Trade Hronek for another RHD and sign Zadorov. Let Myers walk and sign someoene else or let someone from the farm system. Hronek underperformed during the playoffs.
@@jg465 It's not the worst thing for defensemen to 'disappear' in the playoffs. Don't we wish Ian Cole was a little more invisible in the second round?
Zadorov, Joshua and Myers. That's who you can afford and that's who they'll bring back. Forget about Lindholm and no way are they paying Hronek 7 or 8 million. Understand the men who are making these decisions and what they value most. BTW: Zodorov is their first, second and third priority. Not even close.
in his 5 seasons demko has had 3 knee injuries, 3 'lower body' injuries and a concussion. there hasn't been one season where he has been injury free. he isn't going to improve with age. i agree with donnie, move him. silovs was the mvp for the canucks in the playoffs, the toughest hockey he will see and the moment wasn't too big for him.
Silvos was good, but the team totally changed their game plan with him in net, more defence. He needs a year or 2 before they can really trust him in net
Demko for Nylander .... I'd do that trade. Silovs is a beast. Pettersson with Nylander and Lekkeramaki as wingers?? ...this is EXACTLY what Pettersson needs
@@rubberduckie5518 Those players not even in the same sentence as Sid. He's still producing and would only be locked up for another 2 or 3 years. Would rather have Sid in playoffs then Pettersson
Priorities Lindholm 7mil for 3 yrs- Zadorov 5.5mil for 4 yrs- Joshua 4mil for 4 yrs- Myers 3mil for 2 yrs- Cole 1.5 mil for 1 yr- Blueger 2mil for 2yrs. Trade Hronek and Pettersson to Ottawa for Tkachuk and Chychrun.
resigning UFA priority order...1) Zadorov, 2) Joshua 3) Lindholm 4) Blueger...myers and cole can walk unless they can get em on 2 year deals at half the money they making now...and sadly, as great a team-mate he is, DeSmith has to move on...as for Hronek, no f'ing way he should be making more than Hughes or Zadorov...Hronek at 5 or 5.5 million at the MOST...
Donnie is just getting Dhali going 😂 There’s no way he truly believes they should move demko after this short, but impressive, run by Silovs. I like Hronek but 8 mill can’t happen. He did enough this season to be scary in arbitration I would think. I could see him moved. Please resign Zadorov, can’t have that swagger walk out the door.
Cole was horrible and 2nd worst was Myers. They need to use that money towards Tanev and Zadorov. This is a very bad situation for management having so many very good players and facing losing lots of assets for nothing. If it comes down to it as bad as it sounds I'd rather trade Boeser at least he's tradeable and sign.the players we spent lots of assets to get and don't want to lose for nothing. Obviously this would be very hard to do but sometimes you have to do very tough things to be better in the future. Lekkerimaki will replace his goals if put with Miller and will be a much better player overall. The only guys I really think are very replaceable are Myers, Cole and Blueger the rest I want to keep and that would be impossible and there's absolutely no way I trade Demko. With Silovs in net the Canucks likely wouldn't even be a playoff team next year he's not good enough yet and don't think he'll ever be as good as Demko.
When markstrom was traded the fan base that I know we were split if they kept him we were okay with that but most of us like myself knew what we were getting in Demko . Yes he's injury prone but when he's not he's the best there is and you don't get rid of that. not yet at least. Lay off the Kool-Aid Don
"It's a conversation" says Don. Everything is a conversation, journey, and sustainable. This season's playoffs though brought to you by the word "resiliency", which seemed to get out to every media person's desk.
You can make the decision on demko and silovs next summer if it gets to that (probably won’t) .. literally no point to jump the gun and trade either one at this point
Was trading horvat a mistake ? I’m thinking yes. We got nothing for him. Hronek was a waste of time. Should have kept the picks we traded away to get him.
Hronek was absolute shit in the playoffs. When the going got tough he disappeared. There is no way the Canucks should even think of giving him that much.
Zad. For 5.5 over 4 y...... Myers 2 yr at 3.5........trade Hronik....... offer 3 mil 3 years to Joshua. ....offer lindholm 4 years at 7.5. These are offers , but by moving hronik you keep your two big boys. And open up some money for lindholm.
If you look at the entire team and what is missing during these playoffs, that should give the team the idea on who to keep and who to let go. The big, punishing defence was what allowed the team to prevail over the Predators and pushed the Oilers to the blink, so I personally feel big Z and Myers (or replacements for them) should be a priority. The team had an ineffective powerplay and no strong top six wingers who could score beside Boeser so signing a big winger who can score would be a priority. This leaves Hronek out for sure, and since the team is stuck with Petey, it doesn't make sense to try to sign Lindholm to play 3C or 2C with Petey on the wing... As for the goalie debate, Demko is on a reasonable contract - play Silovs more next year and see what the kid can do - I am concerned long-term for Demko's health so the team may need to trade him while he still has great value.
Suter's been fine but giving up on Raty before he's even had a chance to nab a fulltime NHL job would be insanely foolish, especially after the year he just had. Mikheyev obviously you explore moving, and I don't think he's impossible to move, I can also see a scenario where he bounces back next year after having a proper offseason this time
@@user-by3nd4rm6cIf I was a rebuilding team, I’d take Mikheyev for a 2nd and 4th. Maybe even 2nd and 5th. If Mikheyev bounces back, trade him again for MORE draft picks ;)
Donny, there is no way silovs over demko is a legitimate conversation. Stop it. The markstrom vs demko debate was only a debate because markstrom was expiring. If markstrom had 3 years left and was up for the vezina, theres no way it wouldve played out the way it did. Common man, this is nonsense lol
Ugh. Wasn't sure Demko was that close. That he was 100% ready for game 1 versus Dallas is a bit of a gut punch. For him as much as the team and fans. With that said, that would have been a brutal series on the Canucks. They looked pretty cooked by the end of it. Too many 1 goal games, comebacks, injuries and just overall emotion. It was draining even as a fan.
It would be good for Silovs to be backup next season. Would give Demko a reliable number two, he’d get to see the grind of a full time NHL goalie, and have all that extra development with Ian Clark. It’s a no brainer!
Anyone who thinks we can trade Demko now because Silovs had a good couple of weeks has never held a goal stick in their life. Beginning of last season, when Spencer Martin had a lot of good starts, fans online were saying that we could trade Demko then and how did that turn out? Once teams got enough tape on Martin and figured out his weaknesses they lit him up and he was gone. Silovs shows great potential, and he's going to make an excellent back up next season, but he's only 23 and his positioning is still rough. He showed on a lot of the Oiler goals that he's not fast enough to get quickly across the crease AND still stay square to the shooter like Demko has after several years of learning under Ian Clark. Silovs still needs that too, and a few years of back up with the main club where he'll get to work with Clark everyday now will give us more options in two years when Demko's contract ends.
This is exactly what happened with Demko when he was remarkable in the bubble. Demko wasn't ready for the top spot afterwards, it took him time. And Demko performance against Vegas, was sooo much stronger than Shilovs.
One day out of the playoffs and your worried about ufa and RFA? Give it a week at least they will have a year end netting then talk about what's to come.
Which is why you plug him in as your number 2 next season. If he looks like he's ready to take the next step after that, then you can revisit the trade situation.
trade demko at next years deadline remember once wounded always easy to re-wound Desmith and silvos can run the show Trade petterson hronek mikeayav laferty cole
Canucks aren't making the playoff next year. The time was now and they blew it. Hopefully we can find someone dumb enough to take on Mikheyevs contract that would be wonderful.
Face offs a defense you got to have those guts and he wont break the bank played great with joshua and garland thia year good fpurth line center and has heart and grit can fill third line center too
We just got knocked out of the playoffs.. nothing should be off the table as far as discussion is concerned. Don's not wrong to point out health issues. If we get to the playoffs again next season and Demko is injured, what would you say then? Silovs came in and played superhuman for us, but depending on what happens with others in the lineup, Demko could fetch you a boatload of assets/picks for future. Nothing wrong with playing devil's advocate here.
Hronek played with the probable Norris winner, and his big shot produced 5 goals. He made too many mistakes in the playoffs. I hope they move on, Yzerman knew!
Keep Zadorov let Myers walk. I have no idea wtf Rick was watching but Myers is not good. He is average at his best. Giving the puck up, getting turnstiled. F**k $3 million, that is insane. $2 million at best. They need Zadorov. I like him but there is no way Lindholm gets $7 million +. Again, Rick is insane. If he wants that much, he can get it from Boston, not here. If they all priced themselves out of here with 1 playoff round win, then gtfo. It was 1 playoff round, not a cup run.
@@user-by3nd4rm6c He was average at best. He literally got turnstiled in back to back games. 1 ended up in a goal, the other in a golden opportunity that the Oilers didn't score on. He pukes the puck up all the time. It's not living in the past, it's living in reality. You should try it sometime.
Unless Petey gets dealt, I don’t see the Canucks resigning Lindholm. Plus they should retool the blueline. Fans should be expecting 2-4 new faces on D next year.
Aw c'mon, Donnie had to bring it up for the show. But yeah, no shot we're giving up Demko. It's not just that he's a Vezina nominee but that goalies are just really hard to develop and scout accurately, so when one turns out to be good, you hold on to them for dear life. Silov had a great playoff, I'm happy to keep him but if there's a team looking to bet on him continuing to grow and give him a starter position, I wouldn't mind trading him to improve our wingers and right D's
What happens if Demko keeps getting injured? He only played 51 games this year and even fewer the year before. He couldn't make it out of Game 1 without being injured again. The smart thing to do is to platoon Demko and Silovs like Swayman and Ullmark in Boston.
@@vikinginsane6770 If Demko keeps getting injured, then his market will never get into the same stratosphere as the likes of Hellebuyck, Sorokin, and Vasilevskiy
It's easy, dump Myers and keep Z. Myers ain't worth even 3 mil. Dump Cole (for certain), develop Juulsen, Joshua (maybe at low price). Hronek isn't worth 8 Mil (joke) 5 tops. Can't keep paying top dollar for no shows in playoffs. Demko sticks around, but he's probably on his way out if his knee persists.
They said the same of Hasek. The kid has good fundmentals and athleticism. If anything he needs to work a bit more on the fundamentals, staying square and looking out for screened shots. But to have those tools and proven clutch, he has a very bright future.
Silovs wasn’t THAT good he made a lot of mistakes and let in several weak goals. The talk about trading Demko is pure fiction by Don not sure why he comes up with this stuff.
Horrible take by Donnie on Demko. I can't believe he suggested, let alone doubling down on it 🤦🏻♂️ This is why the Vancouver market is seen as volatile. Donnie should know better than that, horrific take.
@@LeonExile05 No, he doesn't have to on every single take that every dumbass fan suggests. Especially not in this specific case. I've never seen it brought up anywhere until now. Boneheaded take by Donnie.
If he deadass wants 8m you have to trade him use that asset bring in another RHD. I rather pay lindholm 8m
If looking for a RHD to pair with Hughes, I'd rather have Tanev at $5Mish/year rather Hronek (sp?) at $8M.
@YTReid755 I've been saying the same thing about Tanev and trading Hronek it makes much more sense.
As bad as this sounds because I don't want to lose Big Z Joshua and Lindholm especially for nothing I'd strongly consider trading Boeser because I think Lekkerimaki will be a better player than overall.
It would be a very hard thing to do but when facing losing very good players for nothing that you spent assets on to get you need to trade players you do have signed and keep them.
I'd definitely let Cole, Myers, DeSmith and Blueger go they're easily replaceable and use that towards the players we don't want to lose.
@@sterlingmork2974 blueger is not easily replaceable given how cheap we can get him for lol. the 3rd line with bluegar/garland/joshua was the best in the leaque at one point for christ sake. Also I highly doubt myers gets more than 3.5m. At that price point with his size and his recent play, he's well worth it. The myers hate memes are no longer justified given what we can probably keep him on for.
Tanev is gonna be washed up soon. Canucks should be looking at a younger RHD like Matt Roy instead of Tanman.
Moving Demko would be fucking stupid, let Silovs back him up for 2 years and see what happens
Agree,but they are one more Demko injury away where you really gotta think long and hard about the future.
Demko will stay for 2 more years, then want a boatload of coin, then Silovs will be #1
seemed like Taylor just dipping into teh Pratt playbook to whip up discussion...oh sorry "conversation".
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out Hronek. And Demko, give it a year and let’s revisit the convo.
Nobody is giving Hronek 60+ million for not being at his best in the second half of the season and into the playoffs. Still, just because he wasn't playing his best doesn't mean he became a net negative
Canucks only have to qualify him for 5.28m…he’ll be back at least that if there’s no trade suitors.
the Demko bickering was hilarious, keep it up guys
Donnie's devil's advocate routine is classic! Love it.
Do not pay Hronek 7 or 8. Trade em. He's good but not that good. Id rather pay big Z 6 or 7.
considering zadorov is 29 and wants term, I wouldn't dare go over a 6x6 (even that makes my stomach a little uncomfortable).
6 or 7 million are you kidding me? let him walk if he wants 5 million or more.
Why did we trade a number 1 and 2nd round picks for Hronek? If he was going to cost the Canucks big money. It’s a waste of picks but it did make sense considering Canucks can’t draft. Tyler Myers is too inconsistent to still be a Canuck he did have a okay playoff but his regular season was frustrating. I think the Canucks are in Goalie controversy because Silvos looked very good and would Demko take a cut in starting? If the Canucks knew how to draft we wouldn’t have wasted a pick on Olli Juolevi and drafted one of the solid defenceman in that same draft like Charlie McAvoy.
Hronek says he has trouble keeping weight on in the back end of the season and he wears down. How can you pay a player 8 million a year for half a season.
They need to keep Zadoriv....ditch Hronek....He's got a bad attitude, and he sucked in the playoffs....
agreed ... Hronek is an overrated GOOF
Don't know what bad attitude you're talking about, why don't we wait for locker room cleanup and exit interviews before we judge
Not getting that top 6 forward at the deadline was a major factor in the Canucks’ demise.
No cap space it was a mess
They got Lindholm what are you talking about
That left Pettersson in a weird spot playing with two bottom six wingers. I almost wonder if they should have loaded up the top two lines more and did away with the Joshua/Lindholm/Garland line. Maybe put Garland with Miller and Boeser and then have Hoggy/Lindy/Petey on the second. Idk.
Getting Lindholm was their top 6 acquisition...it just wasn't at the deadline
@@AlfAlpha56 Pettersson had to be better regardless of whom he played with
You're over rating Demcko. He has not delivered he has physical issues. Silov will be cheaper and has proven to be a playoff calibre goalie. Neither are Vezina calibre. You're ignoring the competition. Typical Vancouver thinking. That's why we have Petterson getting a game breaker's salary whose never broken a game.
Let Hronek walk...trade Demko due to injury prone. Sign Silovs to 3 yr deal and get a better backup. Sign Joshua and Sign Zadorov
No don't let Hronek walk, he's still got respectable trade value
You trade him hes a RFA not worth 8 mill
I agree with you 100%. Trade Demko and Pettersson to Ottawa for Brady Tkachuk and a first and second round pick.
Only if Josh and Z will take a discount, otherwise it’s fine to let them go. Lots of free agents available. If Canucks trade Demko, Samsonov would be a solid guy to get in free agency.
I heard the big Zero gong to the Russian army
Donnie vs Rick debates always so fun lol
Trade hronek, if we can haul up a top 6 forward, a top blue chip prospect and picks, trade Demmer. Hurts to say that but I believe in silovs.
It's about what's best for the team and not about your feelings.
Probably not getting a haul for Hronek considering his arb case, but you should be able to get something good in return still because RHD are very much coveted around the league
Agreed..
.Demko is injury prone
Keep Silovs
@@user-by3nd4rm6c yeah, i think you can get a solid return from a team that sees the $8m price tag and is already like "hell yeah, we're fine with that"
Hronek could fetch a young bottom 4 defenseman, decent prospect or a bottom 6 young forward with a 2nd and 3rd (or perhaps 4th only).
I think Demko should be on the LTIR next season until playoffs game 1. There, problem solved.
That's only saving 5 mill
They won’t make the playoffs without Demko all year
Trading Demko away would be as bad of a decision as signining OEL was, dude got injured at a bad time. He has all summer to recover and gain strength, you get silovs to back him up and play 30 games and we can keep our vezina finalist healthy. Shipping him now would be a premature move
Yeah, trading Demko would be ludicrous, just worry about managing his workload, especially since he hasn't quite nailed down his ability to be a workhorse
I'm looking so forward to Demko Silvos combo next year. Could be the best goalie tandem in the league.
@@qhockeyfan Depends on if Ullmark leaves Boston or not IMO
I hear so many people saying to trade Demko and run with Silovs. They must have a short memory. Spencer Martin had a good short run which won him the back up job but he lost it quickly. Silovs had a sub 900 sv% and a near 3 GAA. He may be good but needs more time and experience.
Yea the goalie trade seems premature. Silovs need at very min: 1 season with 30 games under his belt before anyone can declare him a starter. I wouldn't be surprised if he was shell shocked already and can't regain from.
Hronok can play for the coyotes 👋🏻
He was not good in the playoffs. If he wants big money he hasn't earned it, and should go.
@@carletonrutherford1799 He was okay, he certainly needed to be better, but was not a net negative
DEMKO...... injury every friggen year.... that's why pudnut
Exactly, I would keep him but he is injured every year. Even when he is not injured you watch him in the net and he looks like he is constipated and hunched over.
You can get a whole lot for Petterson and Hughes... Bring in real playoff performers. Sign Joshua and Lindholm and make sure the return for Petey and Hughes is all about shoring up players that have proven themselves in the playoffs and could fit with JT and Lindolm
YOU HAVE TO sign Zadorov. Dump Hronek he was marginal at best when it counted.
I say use Hronek to go after Braden Schneider. He’s young and is on route to be a great RHD.
Ugh, 10 games doesn't make you a full season starter consistent goalie. Silov's needs to be a backup for a year at least
That is an obvious fact. Let him be the backup for a year, and learn.
Exactly. Remember Spencer Martin!
Well if Nucks can resign Silovs for 3+ years at an affordable cap hit, it makes sense to keep both. If not, good luck getting value on Silovs later. Canucks masters of squandering assets lol
hronek 8 m! what! Noooooo
rotate Demko and Silovs in goal next year?
demko seems to be injured at key points or for significant times on a recurring basis - i would do the due diligence on trading him for a lucrative haul
Hows Brock?
Hronek is asking too much!
Trade Hronek for another RHD and sign Zadorov. Let Myers walk and sign someoene else or let someone from the farm system. Hronek underperformed during the playoffs.
I could not agree more with everything you said. Hronek disappeared in the playoffs. There is no way he should get paid from the way he played.
@@carletonrutherford1799 Agreed. No way Nucks should pay a premium for Hronek.
@@jg465 It's not the worst thing for defensemen to 'disappear' in the playoffs. Don't we wish Ian Cole was a little more invisible in the second round?
Zadorov, Joshua and Myers. That's who you can afford and that's who they'll bring back. Forget about Lindholm and no way are they paying Hronek 7 or 8 million. Understand the men who are making these decisions and what they value most. BTW: Zodorov is their first, second and third priority. Not even close.
in his 5 seasons demko has had 3 knee injuries, 3 'lower body' injuries and a concussion. there hasn't been one season where he has been injury free. he isn't going to improve with age. i agree with donnie, move him. silovs was the mvp for the canucks in the playoffs, the toughest hockey he will see and the moment wasn't too big for him.
Nobody from here on out will get the Oilers to 7 games. THEN the doubters will realize how damn good Silovs is.
Silvos was good, but the team totally changed their game plan with him in net, more defence. He needs a year or 2 before they can really trust him in net
@@JohnRedCorn79 that's a coaching decision. he was not a step down from demko.
@@CashMacGregor he looked so good because of the defence. No doubt he made some timely saves but he had some weak ones
I agree with exploring a demko trade . Doesn't matter how good he is when he is always injured .
Yes health issues are a concern. When he’s healthy though he’s definitely one of the best. Also, Silovs doesn’t seem to be ready quite yet.
I get the logic, but how much is another team gonna be willing to pony up if health is that big of a question mark?
Exactly. No chance Canucks resign Demko for 6-8 years when he always gets hurt. Might as well trade him now. His value is super high.
Demko for Nylander .... I'd do that trade. Silovs is a beast.
Pettersson with Nylander and Lekkeramaki as wingers?? ...this is EXACTLY what Pettersson needs
Nylander has NMC and not sure he would okay a trade to Vcr.
Hard pass. If Demko gets moved, we need a capfriendly top 6 forward or a top 2 blueliner. We could get Reinhart or Guentzel for free in FA.
Petterson will become a liable for the Canucks. We're basically stuck with a contract that will impact us for years to come.
Convince Sid and trade Pettersson for him. He would bring a whole new level to the team
That will be the 2nd dumbest signing in Canucks history behind Loui Eriksson. Mikheyev isn’t far behind too.
@@rubberduckie5518 Those players not even in the same sentence as Sid. He's still producing and would only be locked up for another 2 or 3 years. Would rather have Sid in playoffs then Pettersson
Zadorov 6.5 million× 1 year
Lindholm 6.5 million × 2 years
Joshua 4 million × 1 year
Let the rest walk.
Tanev is wwwaaaayyyy too old
Just way too old for 5M
I don’t think we can trade hroenek unless we have a RHD with Hughes that can move the puck as much as well as he can.
Can’t put Tanev over Zadorov, Myers, Hronek, and Blueger!! Who’s gonna fill out the roster??
Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. Resigning all these players will not make the team better.
Priorities Lindholm 7mil for 3 yrs- Zadorov 5.5mil for 4 yrs- Joshua 4mil for 4 yrs- Myers 3mil for 2 yrs- Cole 1.5 mil for 1 yr- Blueger 2mil for 2yrs. Trade Hronek and Pettersson to Ottawa for Tkachuk and Chychrun.
How can you say you’re even close to ready to move Demko when Silovs has played 9 regular season games man.
resigning UFA priority order...1) Zadorov, 2) Joshua 3) Lindholm 4) Blueger...myers and cole can walk unless they can get em on 2 year deals at half the money they making now...and sadly, as great a team-mate he is, DeSmith has to move on...as for Hronek, no f'ing way he should be making more than Hughes or Zadorov...Hronek at 5 or 5.5 million at the MOST...
Donnie is just getting Dhali going 😂
There’s no way he truly believes they should move demko after this short, but impressive, run by Silovs.
I like Hronek but 8 mill can’t happen. He did enough this season to be scary in arbitration I would think. I could see him moved.
Please resign Zadorov, can’t have that swagger walk out the door.
Trade Hronek and Mikheyev
Let Myers, Cole, Desmith and Lafferty go
Resign Zadorov, SIlovs, Joshua and one of Blueger/Lindholm
Cole was horrible and 2nd worst was Myers. They need to use that money towards Tanev and Zadorov.
This is a very bad situation for management having so many very good players and facing losing lots of assets for nothing.
If it comes down to it as bad as it sounds I'd rather trade Boeser at least he's tradeable and sign.the players we spent lots of assets to get and don't want to lose for nothing. Obviously this would be very hard to do but sometimes you have to do very tough things to be better in the future.
Lekkerimaki will replace his goals if put with Miller and will be a much better player overall.
The only guys I really think are very replaceable are Myers, Cole and Blueger the rest I want to keep and that would be impossible and there's absolutely no way I trade Demko.
With Silovs in net the Canucks likely wouldn't even be a playoff team next year he's not good enough yet and don't think he'll ever be as good as Demko.
Have to keep Demko and keep Silovs as a backup getting more reps. Hopefully Demko can tweak his off-season routine to find a way to stay healthy.
When markstrom was traded the fan base that I know we were split if they kept him we were okay with that but most of us like myself knew what we were getting in Demko . Yes he's injury prone but when he's not he's the best there is and you don't get rid of that. not yet at least. Lay off the Kool-Aid Don
You need a 1A and 1B tandem for goalies these days. Run with Demko and Silovs as the tandem for as long as you can.
markstrom was never a great goalie, it was clear as day. demko and silovs could be the best 1 - 2 tandem in the league
Trade Demko and Pettersson to Ottawa for Brady Tkachuk and a first and second round pick.
demko injuries will only get more frequent and potentially worst.
"It's a conversation" says Don. Everything is a conversation, journey, and sustainable. This season's playoffs though brought to you by the word "resiliency", which seemed to get out to every media person's desk.
I'd reply but that would be a conversation
@@jedminor6128 how about a discussion?
I heard the big Z going to Russia and joining the army
You can make the decision on demko and silovs next summer if it gets to that (probably won’t) .. literally no point to jump the gun and trade either one at this point
Sam Reinhart ?
Not impossible I suppose, but that's gonna take up enough cap space that he'll be it for adding more offense
Was trading horvat a mistake ? I’m thinking yes. We got nothing for him. Hronek was a waste of time. Should have kept the picks we traded away to get him.
Should’ve got an extra 1st instead of Raty. That’s the only mistake it seems so far with that deal.
Trade Hughes and Pedoson for a 🌭
thier are better player out their..
$8 for Hronek would buy a decent third line
Hronek was absolute shit in the playoffs. When the going got tough he disappeared. There is no way the Canucks should even think of giving him that much.
Allocate 5M to Tanev and trade Hronek for top flight offensive prospect. One who is ready to break into the NHL.
@@carletonrutherford1799 Hronek was okay
Tanev is not worth 5 mill
@@drifter5682 tell that to the open market lol
Keep Demko and Siloves
lmao i don't remember the last time i agreed with dhali on basically 100% of things said
Zad. For 5.5 over 4 y...... Myers 2 yr at 3.5........trade Hronik....... offer 3 mil 3 years to Joshua. ....offer lindholm 4 years at 7.5. These are offers , but by moving hronik you keep your two big boys. And open up some money for lindholm.
Never trade Demko.
If you look at the entire team and what is missing during these playoffs, that should give the team the idea on who to keep and who to let go. The big, punishing defence was what allowed the team to prevail over the Predators and pushed the Oilers to the blink, so I personally feel big Z and Myers (or replacements for them) should be a priority. The team had an ineffective powerplay and no strong top six wingers who could score beside Boeser so signing a big winger who can score would be a priority. This leaves Hronek out for sure, and since the team is stuck with Petey, it doesn't make sense to try to sign Lindholm to play 3C or 2C with Petey on the wing... As for the goalie debate, Demko is on a reasonable contract - play Silovs more next year and see what the kid can do - I am concerned long-term for Demko's health so the team may need to trade him while he still has great value.
Lafferty, Mikheyev, Raty, Suter..... gone.
Suter's been fine but giving up on Raty before he's even had a chance to nab a fulltime NHL job would be insanely foolish, especially after the year he just had. Mikheyev obviously you explore moving, and I don't think he's impossible to move, I can also see a scenario where he bounces back next year after having a proper offseason this time
@@user-by3nd4rm6cIf I was a rebuilding team, I’d take Mikheyev for a 2nd and 4th. Maybe even 2nd and 5th. If Mikheyev bounces back, trade him again for MORE draft picks ;)
@@rubberduckie5518 I don't think Mikheyev has accrued negative value quite yet
@@user-by3nd4rm6c Well trade him for a 5th. Send the team an autographed Canucks jersey too.
Donny, there is no way silovs over demko is a legitimate conversation. Stop it. The markstrom vs demko debate was only a debate because markstrom was expiring. If markstrom had 3 years left and was up for the vezina, theres no way it wouldve played out the way it did. Common man, this is nonsense lol
Ugh. Wasn't sure Demko was that close. That he was 100% ready for game 1 versus Dallas is a bit of a gut punch. For him as much as the team and fans. With that said, that would have been a brutal series on the Canucks. They looked pretty cooked by the end of it. Too many 1 goal games, comebacks, injuries and just overall emotion. It was draining even as a fan.
It would be good for Silovs to be backup next season. Would give Demko a reliable number two, he’d get to see the grind of a full time NHL goalie, and have all that extra development with Ian Clark. It’s a no brainer!
Demko and Silovs sounds alot like Luongo and Schneider Keep em both til you have to make a move or there's too much money tied up in them.
Ya keep them both then end up with the 3rd string guy. That didn’t go well last time.
@@rubberduckie5518 I have faith that this regime won't have as much arrogance to hold onto them both for longer than they need to be around.
@@tylermccollum5540You’re probly right about that.
trade him..
Anyone who thinks we can trade Demko now because Silovs had a good couple of weeks has never held a goal stick in their life. Beginning of last season, when Spencer Martin had a lot of good starts, fans online were saying that we could trade Demko then and how did that turn out? Once teams got enough tape on Martin and figured out his weaknesses they lit him up and he was gone. Silovs shows great potential, and he's going to make an excellent back up next season, but he's only 23 and his positioning is still rough. He showed on a lot of the Oiler goals that he's not fast enough to get quickly across the crease AND still stay square to the shooter like Demko has after several years of learning under Ian Clark. Silovs still needs that too, and a few years of back up with the main club where he'll get to work with Clark everyday now will give us more options in two years when Demko's contract ends.
This is exactly what happened with Demko when he was remarkable in the bubble. Demko wasn't ready for the top spot afterwards, it took him time. And Demko performance against Vegas, was sooo much stronger than Shilovs.
I agree with everything but his positioning. His positioning is elite.
As usual Don on point, Rick freaking out about and dismissing relevant topics that everyone wants to hear some chat about.
One day out of the playoffs and your worried about ufa and RFA? Give it a week at least they will have a year end netting then talk about what's to come.
The bickering is the heart of the show Boys. Good clip Ryan.
Cap hell next season.
23.5 mill if they can move michev thats another 5 mill 28 mill can get some things done
Silovs was great, but he has never played a full season in the NHL.
His market ceiling is probably the Pyotr Kochetkov contract
Which is why you plug him in as your number 2 next season. If he looks like he's ready to take the next step after that, then you can revisit the trade situation.
@@Statsy10 Exactly
Yes that would be smart deal one of the best goalie in the league. Don Taylor.... wow
trade demko at next years deadline remember once wounded always easy to re-wound Desmith and silvos can run the show Trade petterson hronek mikeayav laferty cole
Canucks aren't making the playoff next year. The time was now and they blew it. Hopefully we can find someone dumb enough to take on Mikheyevs contract that would be wonderful.
I found someone that was dumb enough to get forced into eating crow after the season that has just been^
Blueger???? Really...why?
Face offs a defense you got to have those guts and he wont break the bank played great with joshua and garland thia year good fpurth line center and has heart and grit can fill third line center too
Dude's an elite defensive center
Whose gonna kill penalties next year? As it stands, looks like Aman and Petey. Yikes.
Don is out to lunch on the Demko take, unless he's just trying to push Dhaliwal's buttons for good TV
We just got knocked out of the playoffs.. nothing should be off the table as far as discussion is concerned. Don's not wrong to point out health issues. If we get to the playoffs again next season and Demko is injured, what would you say then?
Silovs came in and played superhuman for us, but depending on what happens with others in the lineup, Demko could fetch you a boatload of assets/picks for future. Nothing wrong with playing devil's advocate here.
Hronek played with the probable Norris winner, and his big shot produced 5 goals. He made too many mistakes in the playoffs. I hope they move on, Yzerman knew!
The Demko talk made me roll my eyes so hard
Keep Zadorov let Myers walk. I have no idea wtf Rick was watching but Myers is not good. He is average at his best. Giving the puck up, getting turnstiled. F**k $3 million, that is insane. $2 million at best. They need Zadorov. I like him but there is no way Lindholm gets $7 million +. Again, Rick is insane. If he wants that much, he can get it from Boston, not here. If they all priced themselves out of here with 1 playoff round win, then gtfo. It was 1 playoff round, not a cup run.
Myers was good in the playoffs, you're too stuck in the past
@@user-by3nd4rm6c He was average at best. He literally got turnstiled in back to back games. 1 ended up in a goal, the other in a golden opportunity that the Oilers didn't score on. He pukes the puck up all the time. It's not living in the past, it's living in reality. You should try it sometime.
Unless Petey gets dealt, I don’t see the Canucks resigning Lindholm. Plus they should retool the blueline. Fans should be expecting 2-4 new faces on D next year.
Aw c'mon, Donnie had to bring it up for the show. But yeah, no shot we're giving up Demko. It's not just that he's a Vezina nominee but that goalies are just really hard to develop and scout accurately, so when one turns out to be good, you hold on to them for dear life.
Silov had a great playoff, I'm happy to keep him but if there's a team looking to bet on him continuing to grow and give him a starter position, I wouldn't mind trading him to improve our wingers and right D's
What happens if Demko keeps getting injured? He only played 51 games this year and even fewer the year before. He couldn't make it out of Game 1 without being injured again. The smart thing to do is to platoon Demko and Silovs like Swayman and Ullmark in Boston.
@@vikinginsane6770 If Demko keeps getting injured, then his market will never get into the same stratosphere as the likes of Hellebuyck, Sorokin, and Vasilevskiy
Petterson is useless
No, you are
@@user-by3nd4rm6cthwle twig is not good look at his points most agsinst weak teams playoffs proved hes not built for the heavy going
Get some forwards that have speed, no more of this cement filled skates looking players
no way any of these player are worth that much money..
Silovs was good for a couple weeks, but still had a .882 save % and a 3.42 gaa. We're keeping Demko.
It's easy, dump Myers and keep Z. Myers ain't worth even 3 mil. Dump Cole (for certain), develop Juulsen, Joshua (maybe at low price). Hronek isn't worth 8 Mil (joke) 5 tops. Can't keep paying top dollar for no shows in playoffs. Demko sticks around, but he's probably on his way out if his knee persists.
Tanev too old now.
Get Rid of Hronek. Open up Cap Space.
Silov's athletic style is fun to watch but it's not sustainable. He'll burn himself out eventually.
They said the same of Hasek. The kid has good fundmentals and athleticism. If anything he needs to work a bit more on the fundamentals, staying square and looking out for screened shots. But to have those tools and proven clutch, he has a very bright future.
IMO moving Demko isnt really a conversation for atleast a year. Let Siloves play 30 ish games first and learn from Clark and Demko.
Silovs wasn’t THAT good he made a lot of mistakes and let in several weak goals. The talk about trading Demko is pure fiction by Don not sure why he comes up with this stuff.
No idea why Donnie wastes air time talking about crazy hypotheticals like trading Demko.
You keep demko
Selling demko is the dumbest thing I will hear this week and it’s only Tuesday
Do not trade Demko don't be silly
Keep Demko ! Not even a conversation
Bye bye Hronek
Horrible take by Donnie on Demko. I can't believe he suggested, let alone doubling down on it 🤦🏻♂️
This is why the Vancouver market is seen as volatile. Donnie should know better than that, horrific take.
Someone has to play devils advocate. He likely knows this, he just has to bring up the point as it’s a common discussion amongst Canucks fans.
@@LeonExile05 No, he doesn't have to on every single take that every dumbass fan suggests. Especially not in this specific case. I've never seen it brought up anywhere until now. Boneheaded take by Donnie.
@@JN-cz3iw You haven’t been on enough boards or vids then. I’ve seen it brought up lots.
You havent watchwd him for very long he always does this to rile up Rick 😅
I can't believe Donnie would even make the suggestion to trade Demko. You should know better Don...
Yeah, don't know why he hasn't learned after been proven wrong about choosing Miller over Horvat and bringing in Hronek