Most likely that against aventurine she was holding back like a lot. She was easy on him but destroyed part of the dreamscape scape anyway. I mean in the stage as against aventurine she could easily destroy a black hole in two and the two planet so solar system. So most likely she was at maybe 1% > for me a character that’s not even trying during an action or a fight is 1% at best.
It’s more like knowledge than iq imo. Iq is more like intuition, making plan, be strategic, be cunning etc.. And excuse me but she proved many times during 2.1 that she has a better understanding of situations and a crazy intuition + good knowledge on science or things like device IX.
After the Aeons Acheron is the strongest character in star rail. "Oh, but jingyuan" Jingyuan was slamed by phantilia, he can't beat emanators. "Oh, but herta" Herta is featless and acheron has better statements. "Oh, but diamond" Aventurine was one shoted by acheron with his power. "Oh, but sunday" Not confirmed that he is an emanator, and acheron will probably not participate in his fight. And i doubt he will get better feats or better staments then acheron. "But phantilia" Acheron has better feats and statements "But welt" Welt is way weaker then his prime. He can't even beat phantilia.
Ei cap at SOL speed at best. Acheron cap at FTL + speed since she has speedblitz the mc who can alredy dodge laser which are SOL speed + escape a black hole + dodge laser of SW. So yeah she speedblitz ei in base form.
@@PA70805 when did Acheron speed blitz mc? Also ei doesn’t cap out at SOL, when she uses the mouso no hitotachi she moves briefly within stoped time, meaning she is faster than time.
And faster than time scales where exactly man ? + with this kind of statement I can also say that Acheron can move while time and space freeze instantly so faster than it. Also If you mean the gameplay then I suppose that every character can move while the puppet cut through time no ? So every character of teyvat are faster than time no ? No bullshit. Also she speedblitz the mc during 2.0 when we first met her at beginning + kill us in the dream of memoria.
@@PA70805 it’s in the shogun boss description. Since ei created the shogun she must be able to do the same. You can find this in the fandom descriptions. Any move the weekly bosses do, they must be able to do in the lore (I.e. the mouso no hitotachi from shogun boss, childe’s whale form his boss, the narwhal’s opening from narwhal boss, etc.). Also Acheron did that in the dream, not in real life.
Except that faster than time scales nowhere in speed. Acheron is not faster because of time manipulation but because of others feats and statement of speed.
Experience, battle iq and stamina can potentially go to Acheron. For once, she isn't a normal human and her lifespan is unknown. Before becoming an Emanator, she has also been fighting a planetary war for a long while and has drifted for unknown amount of time since.
They are in the same multiverse and same imaginary tree ( the Honkai universe ) but no they are in different leaf of this tree and so not the same person. It was either stated in HI3rd or in hsr by Acheron herself when she discussed with welt.
@@PA70805 They're not on a different leaf...all of Hoyo's games exist within the same leaf. A single leaf from the Imaginary Tree represents creation as a whole, and everything within creation has its own multiverse and so on. The Aeons are the ones that exist on a different leaf, they're pretty much a different type of existence.
No i have seen this in hoyoverse community and hoyolab and reddit that raiden shogun is stronger than acheron 😊 due to some abilities of raiden shogun I love acheron more but this is the truth 😢😢
Wtf bro what abilities pls. To kill her she need nonexistent physiology hax that raiden ei has not. Even cutting through time space or reality will do nothing to Acheron tho ei have no resistance to that + nothingness negate durability matter everything on its path. Some must be completely brain dead.
But I wouldn’t doubt that Acheron would win cause the creator is a Acheron main, and besides ei would win high diff But if both ei and makoto fought Acheron she will be annihilated, but the only thing I think ei would lose is that ei is in mental stress so it would be Ei’s mentality that will make her lose
Yeah still copping without argument. Acheron speedblitz ei and makoto in base form before the fight begins. Ei could not even harm her with her slash since Acheron tank the nothingness which can destroy reality ( matter, logic, order and life ). Have no resistance to her time and space manipulation + she can cut through time and space + can cut through reality + nonexistent being with Naught. She can slash through dreams and path ( can negate them ). She can destroy black hole capable of destroying solar system + her own > one slash at full power and teyvat disappear into nihility. She can manifest and manipulate nothingness and nihility through her and Naught to destroy reality + can’t be destroyed by 3D being or 4D like IX. She has non existent physiology hax. She can erase memories of object she touch > memories are said to even survive the destruction of the universe for its rebirth with the help of fuli. Pretty much the memories are lost forever even bs can’t take them anymore. So yeah anyway with speed and durability alone Acheron solos ei everyday.
Yeah wut ever u smoking thats some good shi- bro aint no fking way raiden ei and makoto would win lmao all seven archons cant defeat acheron,it takes one ult to slice them apart
All archon's feat are just a piece of cake for acheron she fucking killed a guy who literally destroy planets,she can slow down time slice through dreams cut space and time so yeah keep coping.
+ it was just a the time she became an emanator so pretty she is way stronger now and had time to develop and adapt her technique to nothingness and nihility.
@@gamingpc2230 don't tell me that your explanation is like the people say furina deserves to win type of shit. The scaling between Ei and Acheron is coughing baby vs A nuclear bomb. Atleast provide any sort of feat That Ei has that proves she would win against Acheron
errr hsr powerscaling is an entire level above genshin so lol!!! nihility should be one of the strongest paths anyway, considering the fact emptiness is a constant in the universe I'd rate IX as the fifth strongest aeon even though it has no feats (it's too depressed to do shit) and acheron already is a step above normal emanators having carried a blade of Izumo (thunder) besides, nihility is one of the oldest paths cause IX was there in swarm disaster nanook and lan weren't, so they should be on the weaker end of aeons basically all that boils down to is acheron effortlessly one shot aventurine with a slash of her bankai so what if she went all out? dreamscape even though it's like a complete seperate object controlled by the family woulda been fucked and deceased cause acheron is too strong for dat TLDR: acheron is blessed by a stronger aeon, basically meaning she's on the high end of emanators and like, she already has past strength before becoming an emanator and like cmon man she sliced through a fucking Black Hole.. How do you even destroy a gravitational anomaly with no defined center Raiden's strongest feat is like island level idk No hate to both raidens, mei is best hoyo girl (imo!!)
Acheron literally sliced through a black hole 😂
Acheron nearly destroyed the entirety of the dreamscape in a go
Most likely that against aventurine she was holding back like a lot.
She was easy on him but destroyed part of the dreamscape scape anyway.
I mean in the stage as against aventurine she could easily destroy a black hole in two and the two planet so solar system.
So most likely she was at maybe 1% > for me a character that’s not even trying during an action or a fight is 1% at best.
Райден чисто прорезала пол стрпну😂 и воздух
Потому она бог ты ее глаз видела который после ульты на небе
@@X_Gribok_XИ? Ахерон разрезала Чёрную Дыру и 2 Планеты
@@user3oQ4gh7bkЕсли верить названию трейлера где показали её предысторию,то она уничтожила 300 планет.
Intelligent definitely goes to ei since she's able to create shogun
It’s more like knowledge than iq imo.
Iq is more like intuition, making plan, be strategic, be cunning etc..
And excuse me but she proved many times during 2.1 that she has a better understanding of situations and a crazy intuition + good knowledge on science or things like device IX.
@@PA70805 hmm fair
Well Ei learned for Yae Miko how to place her consciousness in objects so Yae is more intelligent than Ei
@@PA70805none of those are categories under FSIQ lol
@@springyboi7373 I was more talking about intelligence in general than fsiq
After the Aeons Acheron is the strongest character in star rail.
"Oh, but jingyuan"
Jingyuan was slamed by phantilia, he can't beat emanators.
"Oh, but herta"
Herta is featless and acheron has better statements.
"Oh, but diamond"
Aventurine was one shoted by acheron with his power.
"Oh, but sunday"
Not confirmed that he is an emanator, and acheron will probably not participate in his fight. And i doubt he will get better feats or better staments then acheron.
"But phantilia"
Acheron has better feats and statements
"But welt"
Welt is way weaker then his prime. He can't even beat phantilia.
Fax I too believe she is the strongest right now excluding aeons and beings above them
Who says sunday is emanator? blud got killed by gallager
@@Ashito_Kiyokuni teory
@@Ashito_Kiyokuni caught of guard
Вельт...
Raiden deserve atk potency more than anyone she fought for 500yr straight
And that stamina and not ap imo.
Thats stamina bro…
Slicing dream veil and Harmony's brand >>>>> slicing a big snake and island
That's experience
Even if you put every Archon and Fatui Harbingers, all of them are not enough to tank a single strike from Acheron
I would give ei speed or at least equal since Acheron doesn’t show much speed feats while ei is as fast as lightning
Ei cap at SOL speed at best.
Acheron cap at FTL + speed since she has speedblitz the mc who can alredy dodge laser which are SOL speed + escape a black hole + dodge laser of SW.
So yeah she speedblitz ei in base form.
@@PA70805 when did Acheron speed blitz mc? Also ei doesn’t cap out at SOL, when she uses the mouso no hitotachi she moves briefly within stoped time, meaning she is faster than time.
And faster than time scales where exactly man ?
+ with this kind of statement I can also say that Acheron can move while time and space freeze instantly so faster than it.
Also If you mean the gameplay then I suppose that every character can move while the puppet cut through time no ?
So every character of teyvat are faster than time no ?
No bullshit.
Also she speedblitz the mc during 2.0 when we first met her at beginning + kill us in the dream of memoria.
@@PA70805 it’s in the shogun boss description. Since ei created the shogun she must be able to do the same. You can find this in the fandom descriptions. Any move the weekly bosses do, they must be able to do in the lore (I.e. the mouso no hitotachi from shogun boss, childe’s whale form his boss, the narwhal’s opening from narwhal boss, etc.). Also Acheron did that in the dream, not in real life.
Except that faster than time scales nowhere in speed.
Acheron is not faster because of time manipulation but because of others feats and statement of speed.
Acheron slams tevyat single handedly.The Genshin verse is weak conpared to other mihoyo gamee
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Yeah lore Acheron one shot teyvat + send Phanes into the shadow realm fr.
Experience, battle iq and stamina can potentially go to Acheron. For once, she isn't a normal human and her lifespan is unknown. Before becoming an Emanator, she has also been fighting a planetary war for a long while and has drifted for unknown amount of time since.
Stamina goes to raiden
no acheron is not a human in beginning
W edit + fax + no diff in base form.
Even tho I think that biq and combat are debatable or equal.
Anyway w edit quality.
ITS ME VS ME lol
Ei : who are you?
Acheron : you
Ei : No, you not me
Acheron : I'm you
Ei : WHO ARE YOU
Acheron : I'M YOU
EI : What tha fvc-
This whole thing aside... what exactly is summer time sadness.... and why does it sound so cringe
If my memory serves me right it was written to the singer's friend who oofed herself in summer.
@@daki4046 Okay nvm i shouldn't have said that
Isn't Acheron older than Raiden?
IDK since I only play Genshin
Big W, but I think combat goes to Acheron in my opinion..
But hey, I mean they're both the same person...
No
@@ExCMoTiOn the raidenverse
They are in the same multiverse and same imaginary tree ( the Honkai universe ) but no they are in different leaf of this tree and so not the same person.
It was either stated in HI3rd or in hsr by Acheron herself when she discussed with welt.
@@PA70805 ik that, I'm just saying it lightly
@@PA70805 They're not on a different leaf...all of Hoyo's games exist within the same leaf. A single leaf from the Imaginary Tree represents creation as a whole, and everything within creation has its own multiverse and so on. The Aeons are the ones that exist on a different leaf, they're pretty much a different type of existence.
Raiden prime form vs acheron lore
Still no diff.
No i have seen this in hoyoverse community and hoyolab and reddit that raiden shogun is stronger than acheron 😊 due to some abilities of raiden shogun
I love acheron more but this is the truth 😢😢
Wtf bro what abilities pls.
To kill her she need nonexistent physiology hax that raiden ei has not.
Even cutting through time space or reality will do nothing to Acheron tho ei have no resistance to that + nothingness negate durability matter everything on its path.
Some must be completely brain dead.
No it's because it's like GGZ>Hi3>HSR>Genshin I'm sure acheron can solo everyone is genshin I just don't know abt unknown god
Acheron slashes through black holes
And she's an emnator
Hsr solos genshin verse
I dont know/care who's better, i like genshit👍🏻
But I wouldn’t doubt that Acheron would win cause the creator is a Acheron main, and besides ei would win high diff
But if both ei and makoto fought Acheron she will be annihilated, but the only thing I think ei would lose is that ei is in mental stress so it would be Ei’s mentality that will make her lose
Yeah still copping without argument.
Acheron speedblitz ei and makoto in base form before the fight begins.
Ei could not even harm her with her slash since Acheron tank the nothingness which can destroy reality ( matter, logic, order and life ).
Have no resistance to her time and space manipulation + she can cut through time and space + can cut through reality + nonexistent being with Naught.
She can slash through dreams and path ( can negate them ).
She can destroy black hole capable of destroying solar system + her own > one slash at full power and teyvat disappear into nihility.
She can manifest and manipulate nothingness and nihility through her and Naught to destroy reality + can’t be destroyed by 3D being or 4D like IX.
She has non existent physiology hax.
She can erase memories of object she touch > memories are said to even survive the destruction of the universe for its rebirth with the help of fuli.
Pretty much the memories are lost forever even bs can’t take them anymore.
So yeah anyway with speed and durability alone Acheron solos ei everyday.
Yeah wut ever u smoking thats some good shi- bro aint no fking way raiden ei and makoto would win lmao all seven archons cant defeat acheron,it takes one ult to slice them apart
All archon's feat are just a piece of cake for acheron she fucking killed a guy who literally destroy planets,she can slow down time slice through dreams cut space and time so yeah keep coping.
Tf u talking about, Acheron solos Ei (Full Power), she can cut a giant black hole and destroys 2 planets, Ei only cut an island
+ it was just a the time she became an emanator so pretty she is way stronger now and had time to develop and adapt her technique to nothingness and nihility.
All going to archeon
and so again genshin could never
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Biased difference, the winner should be God of Eternity Raiden Shogun
Like how tho?
@@Za_Balance01 I am too tired to write a big explanation, but if u know the true back story of them u will know
@@gamingpc2230 don't tell me that your explanation is like the people say furina deserves to win type of shit. The scaling between Ei and Acheron is coughing baby vs A nuclear bomb. Atleast provide any sort of feat That Ei has that proves she would win against Acheron
errr hsr powerscaling is an entire level above genshin so lol!!!
nihility should be one of the strongest paths anyway, considering the fact emptiness is a constant in the universe
I'd rate IX as the fifth strongest aeon even though it has no feats (it's too depressed to do shit)
and acheron already is a step above normal emanators having carried a blade of Izumo (thunder)
besides, nihility is one of the oldest paths cause IX was there in swarm disaster
nanook and lan weren't, so they should be on the weaker end of aeons
basically all that boils down to is acheron effortlessly one shot aventurine with a slash of her bankai
so what if she went all out?
dreamscape even though it's like a complete seperate object controlled by the family woulda been fucked and deceased cause acheron is too strong for dat
TLDR: acheron is blessed by a stronger aeon, basically meaning she's on the high end of emanators
and like, she already has past strength before becoming an emanator
and like cmon man she sliced through a fucking Black Hole..
How do you even destroy a gravitational anomaly with no defined center
Raiden's strongest feat is like island level idk
No hate to both raidens, mei is best hoyo girl (imo!!)
@@syltekisbored like it isn't even a debate. Still Mei best girl