State of the Mountain

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  • This video presents an in-depth retrospective on significant developments surrounding Mount Everest's 1924, 1960, and 1996 expeditions over the past year.
    Starting with the 1924 expedition, the 100-year anniversary brought a surge of new information, with archives releasing a wealth of documents and exhibits drawing public interest. Even after the anniversary passed, enthusiasm remained steady, fueled by discoveries such as Irvine's boot. Comparisons of public interest in Mallory and Irvine to historical figures like Neville Chamberlain and Ramsay MacDonald reveal their enduring intrigue. The accessibility of archival material has empowered independent researchers, affectionately dubbed "snow monkeys," to analyze Everest history with unprecedented depth.
    Key revelations from the archives include details about the 1924 expedition's gear-such as the number of ice axes, chocolate supplies, and medical provisions-and the discovery that Irvine's personal camera was not a Kodak VPK but a plate camera. Further analysis suggests the Willisch ice axe belonged to Mallory, not Irvine, based on discrepancies in size and the absence of identifying marks on Irvine's known equipment. Perhaps most intriguingly, no references to the First or Second Step were found in any contemporary accounts.
    Another point of interest is the missing items from Mallory's remains, including a pouch he likely used to store summit rocks and pieces of the rope tied to him. Despite the return of certain personal effects to Mallory's family, key items remain unaccounted for, contributing to the ongoing mystery.
    Turning to the 1996 disaster, significant developments emerged when an old interview surfaced in which Jon Krakauer admitted to fabricating parts of his famous book, "Into Thin Air." The revelation led to widespread reassessment of his credibility, while Krakauer's editor was found to have made misleading statements about the book's rushed publication. Despite these controversies, Krakauer's public engagement with the topic has waned, and further analysis highlights errors and inconsistencies in his account.
    Regarding the 1960 Chinese expedition, the past year saw noticeable changes to its Wikipedia page, with dedicated editors finally overcoming persistent resistance to revisions questioning the credibility of the summit claim. This development marks a significant victory in the online Everest research community.
    Finally, the video discusses the continuing secrecy surrounding recent discoveries, including Irvine's boot, and National Geographic's tight control over the narrative, particularly regarding their 2019 search efforts. Despite obstacles, the Everest research community remains vigilant in their pursuit of the truth.
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  • @michaeltracy2356
    @michaeltracy2356  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    ChatYTI: chatgpt.com/g/g-676888cd43488191a1b5c3f9fbc1489e-chatyti
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  • @kencusick6311
    @kencusick6311 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    One of my favorite channels. No nonsense. Objective. Intelligent.
    “Krakauer has abandoned it like it was Yasuko Namba on the descent.”
    My mouth dropped open. That is one deep but seemingly appropriate insult.

  • @nevets4ever4
    @nevets4ever4 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    "I can see pebbles" (summit rocks?) - thank you Michael for plowing through the noise and helping humanity to connect the dots.

  • @ianclark2665
    @ianclark2665 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +65

    The fact that George Mallorys body was not examined in a more forensic manner is a disgrace. Not only was the examination incompetent, but the expedition was peopled by liars and thieves. The terms shambolic and disgraceful describe the mission perfectly.

    • @localbod
      @localbod 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      💯🎯

    • @winkieblink7625
      @winkieblink7625 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@localbodI too felt Mallory should have been removed off the mountain. It was possible at that time & elevation. He should have had a place of rest where he could be honored by everyone, especially family.

    • @beefandbarley
      @beefandbarley 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Those yahoos committed a crime against History. A scrum of attention seeking children.

    • @plakor6133
      @plakor6133 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      All those "missing" items. Are those not rightfully the property of the Mallory heirs?

    • @mikemcgee5111
      @mikemcgee5111 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You people are nuts. Wtf would they want to bring the body down. Mallory wanted to be on that mountain, knowing he could very well end up being part of the mountain. BTW, he's in the death zone or close, and he's been laying there for 75 years. They were on an angle 45'or steeper. With 30% of the air there is at sea level. Mallory would be happy to know he died doing what he loved. Mallory and Irvine were not wimps.

  • @martybaggenmusic
    @martybaggenmusic 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    So am I automatically classified as a "Mountain Nerd" if I wish there was a Michael Tracy presentation every week? Wouldn't it be great if there was a Michael Tracy for every historical uncertainty and confusion?

  • @poc329
    @poc329 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Another well researched video. Well done. I'm glad we have independents like you to seek & bring out the truth. Best wishes from the UK

  • @Sighhhh
    @Sighhhh 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Doesn't matter what it's about, new Michael Tracy must be viewed. 10:44 Burn... RIP Yasuko

  • @ianclark2665
    @ianclark2665 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    This is my favourite channel, thank you.

  • @shewearsfunnyhat
    @shewearsfunnyhat 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I was 13 in 1996. I had been surfing the web since AOL 2.0 (1994). My dad’s hobby was computers so I had more access to the internet than a lot of my friends. Its ridiculous to say the internet did not exist in 1996. AOL 3.0 was released in 1996. The main web browser was netscape. Most people had some exposure to the internet by that time.

    • @rabarbarum
      @rabarbarum 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@shewearsfunnyhat Somebody - either Krakauer or Kasichke - wrote that, thanks to the Internet, the families at home sometimes knew more about what was happening on the mountain than the actual expedition members. Kasichke has a whole goddamn collection of letters he exchanged with his wife while on the mountain. That statement is ridiculous.

  • @SS-xr7jf
    @SS-xr7jf 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Every time I am reminded that they stole his underwear, I get to be pissed off like it was the very first time I found out.

    • @zzydny
      @zzydny 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I always also feel outraged because the pictures of Mallory's body were published without regard to the feelings of his surviving children.

    • @r3beatty
      @r3beatty 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Somehow i forget it every time, and the cycle continues.

  • @geniexmay562
    @geniexmay562 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Thank you for sharing your diligent research and your passion 😄👍

  • @sirrichardpump-a-loaf6894
    @sirrichardpump-a-loaf6894 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Always look forward to your videos. Fantastic in every way. Godpeed!

  • @alexiell10
    @alexiell10 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    10:45 that was savage 😂

  • @eric-wb7gj
    @eric-wb7gj 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thank you Michael, I always enjoy your videos 🙏🙏

  • @Bearrtracks
    @Bearrtracks 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hope you keep doing what you're doing Michael. Facts and critical analyses are much appreciated.

  • @natpagle2323
    @natpagle2323 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I am excited for the Neal Beidleman video.

  • @deepwood4
    @deepwood4 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    When Into Thin Air was released, I read it cover to cover. Almost nonstop. Didn't sit well with me. I then read the climb xover to cover almost nonstop. And then the illustrated version of Into Thin Air.
    Michael Tracy is spot on. As usual.

    • @peterg9729
      @peterg9729 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      If you read it and have ever climbed any sort of mountain in bad weather then you know the man was lying.

  • @rogergriffin9893
    @rogergriffin9893 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Thank You, Michael.

  • @gioelesnider9402
    @gioelesnider9402 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    10:45 Michael destroyed the guy 😭😭

  • @T_Mo271
    @T_Mo271 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    It is stunning (and sad) how much my opinion of NatGeo has sunk over recent years.

    • @plakor6133
      @plakor6133 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@T_Mo271 disneyfied.

  • @andrewemery4272
    @andrewemery4272 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    I watch these videos because I am not a mountaineer, never wanted to be a mountaineer, and never will be a mountaineer. They make me feel that I have made the right choices in life.

    • @michaeltracy2356
      @michaeltracy2356  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Promoting crap clothing and being a shill for the Chinese government, what’s not to like about that?

  • @marcbreum2373
    @marcbreum2373 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    hey Michael, I appreciate how much effort you take to expose the truth. Your videos are clear and concise and easy to follow. I'm 100% a believer now! Thanks for everything you do and I look forward to more content.

  • @jackharle1251
    @jackharle1251 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Thank the Yeti, a new upload

  • @greemblomb
    @greemblomb 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    It's disgusting that they stripped Mallory of his underwear, especially when he had living children at the time. Even Otzi the Iceman's remains have been treated with more respect.

  • @samus4040
    @samus4040 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great work, as always Michael. Thank you 🤝

  • @rabarbarum
    @rabarbarum 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I somehow missed the video on Mallory's clothing having been removed. Jesus Christ. I had to come back and make sure I heard that right.
    How in the almighty fuck was that not a major, career-ending scandal for Pollard?

  • @johnnomcjohnno1957
    @johnnomcjohnno1957 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Thanks, I appreciate the summary and look forward to the new video's. $1.99 for the Kindle version of "Into Thin Air"? Thought about getting it at that price, but the Michael Tracey TH-cam membership remains much better value.

    • @martybaggenmusic
      @martybaggenmusic 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Definitely

    • @nolslifegren
      @nolslifegren 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      If you must then buy it second hand paperback so Krakauer gets nowt

  • @endless_universe2023
    @endless_universe2023 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder if Michael will ever meet Krakauer in a real life debate. That'd be a show to watch. No mountaineer myself, but, man, I love your shows.

  • @elektrenai219
    @elektrenai219 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks Michael.Another top video

  • @ESCAPEGOAT.
    @ESCAPEGOAT. 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Wikipedia: Tracyism - the ability to force people to come to the right conclusion.

  • @TheSaxon.
    @TheSaxon. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    For anyone in the UK giggling at "Knickers", which today refers to women's underwear. Men, back then, did wear clothing called Knickers aka Knickerbockers.

    • @markstevenson6635
      @markstevenson6635 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Listen again.

    • @sharonsplat
      @sharonsplat 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@markstevenson6635 and the odds of Mallory wearing American made knickerbockers are slim to none the Saxon is being purposefully obtuse.

  • @mattiremembermasked459
    @mattiremembermasked459 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Something tells me some of these mountaineers would make great used car salesman.

  • @OIICE
    @OIICE 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Michael, there should be four videos left in the 96 series: Bidelman’s choice, how JK discredits his critics (you said this was a future video), agreement between AC & Outside Magazine and a wrap up video. 😊

  • @markstevenson6635
    @markstevenson6635 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Always interesting

  • @somjasa
    @somjasa 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great thank's!
    (An Internet subscription became the most popular Christmas present, ("Årets julklapp"), in Sweden 1996. In 2000 had 51% of the Swedish homes access to Internet. Perhaps the two buddies should have given Sweden a visit before the book got published in 1997.)😸

  • @pauloalvesdesouza7911
    @pauloalvesdesouza7911 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for following the truth, no matter where it may lead us.

  • @CPE1704TK5
    @CPE1704TK5 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    🔥

  • @JamesScott-o7i
    @JamesScott-o7i 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for this video. Fully captures the zeitgeist (spirit of the times) in the 1924 portion (in focus). I think we are coming to a common consensus that the development of a community database, plus the imminent rise of a cooperative post-communist (shen-yun?) china, will allow us to solve this mystery. Finding the rest of Andrew Irvine, finding the hiding places of the remaining oxygen bottles (say 4), and the Oxygen Racks, and greater access to the CTMA Museum in Lhasa, will bring many pieces of the puzzle to light. If I may ask a question, do you recall the story of a (female?) climber that found an Oxygen Rack on the North Ridge, then threw it down the Kangshung Face? I only bring this up to discuss the initial discovery location. Anyway, continue your good work. I (we) enjoy your detective work.

    • @alexiell10
      @alexiell10 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tactical dot (.) in case more info in the topic, got intrigued 😶

  • @rogermarsh9632
    @rogermarsh9632 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the stone tablets the Yeti is carrying; my rusty Hebrew indicates something along the lines of “Don’t do it, be a fool and subscribe.” The more I think about it the more this stuff to do with Mount Everest strikes me as a microcosm of the broader “official narrative versus the truth” thing that we see playing out more broadly in the world.

    • @michaeltracy2356
      @michaeltracy2356  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yetis have a simple religion with only two commandments. (1) Don't be a fool. (2) Like and Subscribe. You read the two pages together as one line.

    • @rogermarsh9632
      @rogermarsh9632 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@michaeltracy2356 of course I should read tablets individually instead of as one line 🤣

  • @robertBelindawallmorrow
    @robertBelindawallmorrow 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wonderful stuff Michael. Loved the comment about Sandy Irvine's diary: " ... including which women he was giving DNA samples to......"

    • @TigerLilyBlossom1
      @TigerLilyBlossom1 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I had to rewind to make sure I was hearing that correctly 😂😂😂

  • @whitedog510
    @whitedog510 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    10:45 💀💀😂😂

  • @getoffenit7827
    @getoffenit7827 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    No they didn't leave pieces of Mallory's rope on the mountain..too enticing of an artifact to leave behind..fercryinoutloud do any of those who discovered Mallory didn't pilfer?
    My I'm a conspiracy theorist..but what was promised to authorities or donors for that expedition?..articles of clothing or gear from Mallory?
    The 'bag' that might have contained summit rocks,Given to authorities who allowed the expedition to climb Everest and search for Mallory?
    There's just too many sketchy claims and too much obfuscation and inconsistencies coming from that expedition for me NOT to theorize.

  • @eileenroth116
    @eileenroth116 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why do you say they didn't search for summit rocks when T.P. says they did. I just don't understand the discrepancy.

    • @michaeltracy2356
      @michaeltracy2356  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Why would you believe anything TP says?

    • @eileenroth116
      @eileenroth116 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why wouldn't I? I don't understand.

  • @MonteD1
    @MonteD1 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    5:29...

  • @gajofre
    @gajofre 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Alastair Scott should know better, he's only protecting sales. A classic shill.

  • @getoffenit7827
    @getoffenit7827 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Are there any other 'mysteries' you would consider covering Mr.Tracy?
    Exposing liars,inconsistencies and outright bs peddlers?

  • @Burningheartcelosia
    @Burningheartcelosia 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One of the least talked about tragedies! Should be as “popular” as Amelia Earhart ‘s botched situation and recovery efforts. We all know of that. This story and the tragedy of theft and secrecy should be more wide spread! So the truth can be maintained and not easily crunched into someone’s preferred narrative

  • @kiwihapgar
    @kiwihapgar 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    DNA Samples to women- lol

    • @alexk2652
      @alexk2652 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂

  • @12floz67
    @12floz67 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Giving DNA samples 😂😂🤣