The Reason for Almost All Mental Illnesses - Prof. Jordan Peterson
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- Psychology professor Jordan B. Peterson identifies the root of almost all mental illnesses.
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I don't care..If I don't care I will stay sane
Well obviously Jordan is trying to sell product. F*** him He's now public domain. Every word he says is open for everyone to repeat even if it's just a minor comment. You know what he should do? Offer his services for free to random people and he can pick whoever you choose is. But he needs to offer for free.
Of course she's not smart enough to actually console or provide information to me that I don't already know, but the weaklings that he needs to think about.
@@johnston.scott64 For all the good he has done,
don't you agree that he deserves an income ?
Do you work for free ?
Perhaps you should try it.
Try what@@55fixcom? Not working in free money?
Honestly I don't have a choice. I know people will pay Jordan for an interview or two because his controversial. And he probably has books out, I'm sure he does, I just don't know what they are where they are.
But that's not the point of my post..
Yes! I always said “my depression is environmental” and it was. Only being around my family caused the problems. I cut them off and I have never felt hopeless
I’m miserable with them, miserable without them.
I can live neither with you nor without you.
It's ur psychological reaction to ur environment above all
Me too. I was stuck with evil venomous miserable monsters who tried to destroy my child's soul.
I had a safe home, loving family, awesome siblings, amazing grandparents, and had a lot of anxiety attacks growing up. And depressions. Think seasonal affective disorder mostly.
There was no reason I could see for me developing those problems.
"Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes."
- William Gibson
Narcissistic parents or significant others can drive any empath to insanity quickly
😄😄😄
His quote seems like a joke, but it is super accurate. I found this stat super interesting. Even though 100% of foster children can go to college for free because it is completely paid for by the state, they are the group least likely to attend or graduate.
Solely due to their chance of birth by deadbeats, they are gimped from childhood. Totally stinks.
@@roberthiggins2252 Well, more so because the shame and guilt associated with their lack of forgiveness manifests in a multitude of hellish ways
define assholes.
I grew up with a dad who rarely showed love and was quick to lose his temper and give out. I ended growing up quiet shy and afraid to speak because of him. Conversation was never free flowing and I felt/still feel like i can't connect to him. He's very negative too, maybe he's narcisstics, I don't know. His dad is the same way. The environment you grow up in has a huge impact on how you turn out. I was shy, developed social anxiety in my teens and clinical depression. I don't think this was all chance. I had a poor support network at home, felt it hard to make friends, a dad who was negative and felt I could never open up to or be myself around.I started hypontheraphy to clear core beliefs such as im worthless and unlovable since my dad showed me not much love, or it was always conditional. I'll never make the same mistakes if I ever have children. I feel better away from my dad and so will move out on my own soon, once I save up some money to do so.
Ps thank you for all the comments gus. They warm ny heart.
I wish you the best man. Glad to see you are taking the initiative to not pass that down.
I wish you all the best too. Just by reading this, I can tell that you are a thoughtful and kind person. I’m sure you have several other wonderful qualities as well that will bless your and others’ lives as you move on from your father and, unlike him, stop the cycle of toxicity.
I feel for you. It's so unfair that some people seem to suffer and there is no let up. The more you try, the more you drown
Hi Jack. I'm sorry to hear about what you've had to endure. It may not seem that way now, but you will come out of this and develop confidence in yourself to be a stronger person once you're free from all this. You already sound very caring and determined to take action for yourself. May I ask how old you are? I hope you manage to get away soon. Good on you for deciding to remove yourself from this awful environment as soon as possible. Wishing you all the best.
Jack you hit the nail on the head with this one. We are products of our environments, however we can overcome them. God Bless you son!
That’s exactly what happened to me. Got hit with wife getting cancer, teenage daughter running off with boys, colleagues at work being horrible, stopped sleeping properly and boom anxiety and panic through the roof. That was three years ago and I’m still in the process of recovery
I hope you are doing better man. That’s a lot to deal with.
@@kalobadams7803 thanks brother. I’m trying to get through this one day at a time
Good. You got this. One day at a time. God bless you and yours
@@FLOATERSEL thanks 🙏🏻
@@jpage99999 absolutely. And pat yourself on the back for how far you’ve made it and what you’ve made it through.
"The political system collapses, you lose your job, and you have someone that you love or two people die..."
Damn - that's definitely the situation for a lot of people right now
Prophet Peterson predicted the coronavirus pandemic
They too were prophetic by their circumstantial knowledge
@TheBrabon1 Whoosh
if such a series of shit happen to some people, unless they are sick or physically hurt, They dont want to die. They wish to die, when they are finally happy again.
Definition of prophetic: accurately describing or predicting what will happen in the future. This happens all the time bro? Theres nothing metaphysical about it, if thats your problem? Smart people very often predict occurrences not a crazy concept lol
As a person that has had many "complex" things happen to him in a few years I can totally relate to this explanation.
Don't believe him, he's lying. The "complex" is CONFLICT between state dogma and plain reality; and the reason for most mental illness, is cognitive dissonance over living in a "democracy"where the people don't consent to their government, thus creating a covert oligarchy that dictates narrowly-limited TOKEN choices, in the form of state-ultimatums on how the people can and can't change their government.
As Johann Wolfgang von Goethe said, "there are none more enslaved, than those who falsely think they're free."
But since Peterson is employed licensed and accredited by the state, he won't address that. Psychology is the SCIENCE of validating the state oligarchy by Gaslighting the individual. He is just a political puppet, who engages in Political Abuse of Psychiatry to validate its power, while maintaining the delusion of liberty and democracy under government-dictated ultimatums called "elections."
Ken Burns HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Translation: ‘Down with the system, man! So we can like, setup...another system!’
While you might think I have nothing to say to you, because I laughed at you, you would be wrong! Thanks for the melodrama though!
Ken Burns because this is what you think about if you’re diagnosed with cancer? Hypothetically?
Ken Burns did you see his video he did on Trudeau? 🇨🇦 I do not believe he's a political puppet.
@@kenburns4547 that explanation comes from a mental illness in itself.
Ongoing sleep deprivation can cause a variety of mental illnesses too.
I agree. Everytime I don't get enough sleep I'm grumpy and snappy and generally feel down and depressed
Amen to that, I have been struggling with that personally for decades, a true living nightmare, I pray I wake from it soon.
Good news is that there are very effective psychological treatments for sleep problems. Fixing sleep problems can often be a good way of preventing depression, mania, or psychosis.
I must be fucked to all hell then
Perimenopause and menopause symptoms too linked to lack of sleep.
I felt I was depressed before I met my husband. As soon as I did (someone who understood me, spoke my language) my "depression" lifted and I felt saner, more in control of myself and thought I could handle almost anything. It was truly remarkable.
I don't think that's good thing it means your happiness is directly tied to another person your fully dependent on him so what happens if he leaves you
I’m actually very independent but it is just a fact that when you resonate with someone it’s a beautiful thing!
@@lindacezanne1576thats beautiful to hear and very relatable
@@cleazy______5624we are deeply social beings. Of course our happiness depends on others around us
You are accepted and loved. What a relief.
That's why they say, "he has lost his mind". Not that his mind suddenly jumped out of his body and disappear into ether. His mind got so complex he simply lost control over it. I completely agree with Jordan Peterson.
that is a very interesting way to look at it
Not his mind, his life such that his mind could not cope.
I imagine that could be the case for some autistic ppl that can't filter the reality as they see it so the brain is overloaded with info. I guess that could make you nuts just in itself.
aniekan etim: and thus you fail to comprehend the reality. The "complex" is CONFLICT between state dogma and plain reality; and the reason for most mental illness, is cognitive dissonance over living in a "democracy"where the people don't consent to their government, thus creating a covert oligarchy that dictates narrowly-limited TOKEN choices, in the form of state-ultimatums on how the people can and can't change their government.
As Johann Wolfgang von Goethe said, "there are none more enslaved, than those who falsely think they're free."
But since Peterson is employed licensed and accredited by the state, he won't address that. Psychology is the SCIENCE of validating the state oligarchy by Gaslighting the individual. He is just a political puppet, who engages in Political Abuse of Psychiatry to validate its power, while maintaining the delusion of liberty and democracy under government-dictated ultimatums called "elections."
@@kenburns4547 I love the depth of your clarification. Thank you.
Glad Dr.Jordan Peterson is back and recovered. Hopeful for his continues recovery.
he’s back??
@@benquidlat8396 he made podcast episode with his daughter
FahdQ what happened to him?
Uhm...What happened to him? 🤔
did he do 10 grams?
I suffered severe depression and mental disorder years ago as a teenage. Got diagnosed with cptsd. Spent my whole life fighting cptsd. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 6 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.
YES very sure of Dr.benfungi. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta
From my experience it really works excellently! It doesnt even need to be a full hit. With potent shrooms 2-3 small ones will still make a clear difference. It will be a few hour cosy rumbling moment around rest time, but afterwards its just calm and you feel amazing and gain your freedom. Psilocybin is different dudes, its the only "treatment" I would recommend to someone who genuinely wants to get better. There is no addiction, withdrawal, or negative side effects. It's just pure healing., far more effective than any anti-depressant. You can thank me later,
I was horrifically depressed since childhood. It was relentless. I assumed it would ultimately end me somehow. About twelve years ago I randomly accepted the offer from a friend of a few doses of mushrooms. I did them two consecutive nights alone. First night was pretty mild. The second night? Wow. I saw my depression from every angle, realized much. Next day: depression totally gone. Never came back, never coming back. It's like it's a forest far away I can remember, and could probably find again with enough effort, but it has zero impact on anything in my life or mind. They honestly saved my life and improved it immensely. I never did them again, either. I wish there was a good, organized way to administer them to people who would benefit from them.
If we find ourselves with a desire that nothing in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that we were made for another world.
-C.S Lewis
Correct
@@deirdremorris9234
Or made for another time.
^I Just Wasn't Made For These Times^
The Beach Boys
Just listened to that and wondered how much psychology is often concentrated in lyrics.
@@martinried5450 A lot!!! Bob Marley: "free yourself from mental slavery."
@@deirdremorris9234 Good point ! Talking about reduction of complexity.
Only God can satisfy. Just saying.
As an older man I can attest to the fact that a complicated life is often fraught with stress; and often it's not the unforeseen hardships we face but embracing cultural cancers which make life less enjoyable. Living beyond our means is a huge stress factor; often crippling debt is linked to that behavior. I think many people go through a stage of accumulating stuff they don't need at the cost of running up debt and working excessively to maintain a "lifestyle". But it doesn't matter how nice a house you have if you're never there to enjoy it. In recent years I've started steering my life toward a simpler way of living, and it's made all the difference.
That's quite consistent with my observations. I'm 59 years old now and have seen many people do the same thing, working harder to accumulating a lot of stuff that will be sold cheap or given away when they downsize or die, and to what end? Similarly, I've seen many people rushing their kids around to endless planned activities, and similarly to what end? Hey, I live in the same complex world as everyone else, but that doesn't mean I have to get caught up in it all.
@@Abitibidoug Exactly! I just wish someone had clued me in decades ago to the fact that many "cultural norms" can be, and should be, recognized as unhealthy and even destructive.
I find joy in the simple things in life but could never just live a simple life. I'm just waaaaay too ambitious for that and can take on a shit load of work, and nothing makes me happier. The reason, why I'm kind of depressed these days, is that I haven't achieved valuable goals recently and are stuck in Limbo as a highly educated 35-year-old man who simply can't start at the bottom anymore and not at the top either.
I mean, to get feedback from interviewers saying that I'm overqualified is never fun to hear, yet it is the truth and I can't do anything about it. Also, the thing that bothers me the most, is that at this point in life I should have my OWN profitable business. Yet, based on my history, I don't have the experience in the right kind of fields to establish that business and it sucks because I basically have to start all over again if I truly want that.
Also, be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. I lived the simpler life once with great work/training/friend/family balance but I can never get that back.
Mike Revendale you probably would have dismissed that advice when you were younger. The wisdom comes with age!
Abitibi_Doug I couldn’t agree more. You don’t realize this when you’re young which is really a shame.
Amazing , he summed up mental illness in 2 minutes and it makes complete sense. I find myself and others with mental illness do better with routine and not adding in complexity, changes.
Absolutely. Complexity, life out of control, was the catalyst for both of my breakdowns. Not my mental illness being the catalyst for the complexity.
Agree. I've never heard it explained like this before. Just feels like the truth.
People are like bridges .....they all have a load limit .
Build strong bridges from childhood onwards - not by abuse but by intelligent guidance on How to Deal, How to Choose a Path with ❤️
...sometimes you just better burn them.
Or an elevator
People are like buildings, they are fat
Yes, we all have a breaking point
"Spamming quotes under JP's youtube videos can get you tons of likes" ~ Confucius
I be confused too.
underrated
@@reglook1 "You are"-Hitler
@@vintagerock547 you are
@@reglook1 "You are"-reglook
As an emotion coach, this is also what I found to be true. Most people don't have a "disorder" that needs medication, but a complex life that feels out of control. Their life may be disordered (or the people around them) but that doesn't mean they have a disorder.
It does take a bit of work to muddle through the mess, but that's what I love doing with them!
an emotion coach? Is that the same as a life coach?
Emotion coach???? What kind of shit is that? Your brain is not enough prepared to get a psychology degree
@@FriendofDorothy yes but even less of a real thing
👍
Daniel how can i contact you 😢
"yes we can"
-Bob the Builder
Obama sure did get his quotes from esteemed scholars such as Dr. Robert van Builder.
Salute
Lmao 🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
He made a profound observation. Complexity can push most of us to a breaking point.
forever jealous of those who had him as a professor
We've all got him in this way :)
Envious not Jealous. 👍
@@guilouaitisc3268 Good contribution! one point for you!
Don't be jealous. There are many great professors at many universities. Unlike Peterson, most of them contain their egos and do not behave as if they are anointed experts on topics far outside their realm of expertise.
@@zacharywoodruff5321 As far as I've seen he only ever delves very deeply into topics outside of his expertise when other people drag him into it. And even then he's pretty open about stating his theory and then acknowledging that he doesn't have all the information
Really interesting. I’ve suffered from depression since my first wife was diagnosed with brain cancer and died four months later.
So much happened in such a short space of time,I literally could not cope.
Sorry to hear that. His talk explains a lot though- sometimes we are pushed beyond our breaking poknt
Ironically something very similar happened to Peterson himself about two years after this video was made (his wife got cancer around 2018-9 and he got addicted to benzodiazepines in an attempt to control his anxiety).
So much happened in such a short space of time,I literally could not cope.
THIS.
Sorry for your loss...
I resonate. Honestly. 😓😓😓
The Universe is cruel & 'blind'. Some of us were ordained for WAAAAAAY too much suffering, but... there is no escape. It's just the way it is.
Others get to be happy, fulfilled, and have a BALANCED amount of success & suffering.
But not *certain* folks. 😓
When sorrows come, they come not as single spies but in battalions.
William Shakespeare
wow true
@K Gray I love Yogi Berra's quips! Another good one, "it's like deja vu all over again". 😄
@K Gray 👍
How true. How sweet it is.same.sad .sorrowful. I believe REDD FOXX AND GET THE DRY DRUNKS ANDYOU KNOW THE GREAT ONE FORGOT HIS NAME BRAIN DAMAGE...FLY YOU TOVTHE MOON...PRES.NIXON SHOWED HIM BODIES OF ET'S ...THE GREAT ONE JACKIE GLEASON
@Orchestrated Apocalypse
Do you have a goal here? He had withdrawal. He took them because of extreme anxiety, depression. He's better.
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Germany. Really need
I wish they were readily available in my place.
Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac.
He's constantly talking about killing someone.
He's violent. Anyone reading this
Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
Is he on instagram?
Microdosing helped me get out of the pit of my worst depressive episode, a three year long episode, enough to start working on my mental health.
Can dr.poras send to me in UK?
So true, I thought I was depressed for 7 years. I went on medication, I took myself off cuz I felt like i was weak for taking medication. I developed dependency on weed and smoked all day every day. I’ve always had a goal but I had trouble connecting that goal into my complicated life. Remove complications and focus on your love for others, Find peace in existing. No one will always be happy but peace is always a choice
Well said
Peace be with you always🌿Beautiful honest post. I take the time to say Peace&Love as often as I can to others. I end phone calls that way. When approaching total strangers it's used as a greeting to assure acceptance. Try using this phrase to uplift others as well as yourself
@Youn6J * Excellent advice. Thank you. 👍☘️🙏
Our world has become exponentially more complex over the last two decades
Everything before 2001 was so much simpler.
GPL and everything before the 1900s was much less complicated. Life has and will always become more complicated but the problem is we don’t always build the healthy coping mechanisms at the same rate.
No, that’s just your subjective experience. Chaos fluctuates. Every generation seems to have a big event that has happened to them.
Yep
Subversion tactics
I had my first mental brakedown when I was 11 year old, I am 64 now and still struggling, I found out I have Autism AD HD OCD, in my late 40s.
Breakdown*
Praying for you 🙏👍
@@sonjak8265 keep the bullshit for yourself
@@sonjak8265 True, those lables don't help anyone, least of all the labelled.
@@beztroska I recommend that you do some research on the history of the western medical model, doctor/patient relationships and the growth of the pharmaceuticals industry during the 20th century: there is a wealth of good quality information available. You will then be better informed and you will be able to differentiate between the very valid point that Sonja is making and the "excrementum bovis" to which you refer in your ignorance.
Wow. I never thought about things this way, but he has a very good point. Peoples' brains nowadays can become completely overloaded, especially with all the CRAP going on in the world. Personally, when I get to that point, I completely shut down, because I can't even see where/how to begin to dig myself out of my out of control situation, i.e., job I despised, both parents became ill, had to fly home, parents got better, flew back, then one parent DIED, had to fly back home again, and deal with death and a funeral, plus the other traumatized parent; then flew back again, quit my job, determined I was going to MOVE home, so spent months packing and all of the stuff that goes with that; packed everything up, drove 1,000 miles home by myself. So I know it's going to take me a loooong time to decompress and come to grips with everything that's been going on over the past 6 months. Sometimes I think that just sitting and staring at a wall for a few days is preferable over having to deal with life. But I literally just take one....step....at....a....time. Suicide is NEVER the answer.
Exactly. One step at a time. One day, one hour, one minute at a time if that's what it takes. Every step is a victory. ❤️
I can relate. But I'm not so sure being in control of one's ultimate fate is not an answer. Personally I reserve the right to be in control of my own life and I have no interest in extending that life if the suffering is too great or the quality of life is pointless. I've been on the edge for a long time now and I grow weary of it all.
He needs to start an online university. I would join it.
If it's just the education, you already have many iterations of his two courses an essay writing guide and a list of great books to read. There is no accreditation at the end, but you can learn quite a lot with what is already out there.
@@petardraganov3716 Since I have watched a lot of his materials already, I feel like a certification could be useful ....😄
Just be careful though as these are kot really lectures but more like lunch room chats. Proper lectures would cite source materials / studies, explain points points counterpoints and support you in researching your own analysis of the topics being discussed. This is JP outlining what he believes to be the case, rather than how he might present a truly 'academic' lecture.
If he taught a class online I would take it.
Its so hard not to shit on dumb hoes.
Many people make life complicated by lying. A different lie for different person or group of people. If they were only truthful that complexity would be immediately reduced.
David 135 self induced
Oftentimes truthfulness is punished in a society that expects us to lie
David 135 you are deluded if you think there is truth in this world. Facts are objective but truth is objective.
No. Lying simplifies things. Truth is almost never beneficial. Truth gives people power over you. And when you do that you are screwed in every way imaginable.
Parenting. Or lack of. Almost all of the damage is done by parenting.
Wow! That's the truth! I can remember in my early 20's telling my dr. that I felt like I was walking on a wire and just couldn't balance anymore. I also see it as juggling and somebody keeps adding more things to juggle. Sometimes it seemed like they were trying to add a chainsaw in to the juggling scene! That's when I gave in and drank and drugged. Then I realized I didn't want to go out like that so I got in rehab, and learned to "Keep it Simple!" It's not that simple anymore but it's sober!! : ))
I've also learned to not sweat the small stuff. Most importantly, I talk to God. . . a lot! (ok, prayer.) He really is a miracle worker!!
[not sweat the small stuff] What some combat veterans of WW2 in the Pacific noticed when they got home was people getting upset for trivial reasons.
It's alarming that there are so few people amongst us with his level of intelligence and foresight.
When i was young i had a teacher who also worked with children at a psychiatric Institution. We always made fun about it until he explained to us that every person hast this Point at which they just cant handle life anymore. And that these children had experienced such bad things that they came to this point. I think this is similar to this explanation in the Video. i will never forget these words...it has been almost 15 years ago. (Sorry for spelling mistakes, i am No native english speaker)
you found that funny???
@@xdaydreamerx note the word "until" in the original answer. Note also the words 'When I was young".
Most folks will have several things and times they find hard to get past. Persevere, Betty....i hope you are well.
@@terywetherlow7970Some don't make it through. I'm right on the edge....
@@deadreckoning6288 Hold on as best we can.
The sky is not the limit.
EVERYONE has a limit.
Admitting this to your self is not a weakness, it actually will make you stronger.
You will become more successful and calm, because you are not over reaching YOUR OWN LIMITS.
What someone else does is what they can do, don't fall into the trap of comparing yourself to everyone else.
MusicIs l0v
Indeed !
You're right. I couldn't ride a bike and I was like, "Who needs this anyways?" I admitted my limit and didn't ride my bike. The reality is that your limit is self-imposed and you'll stop where you tell yourself to stop - and you'll go where you tell yourself to go. Society as a whole will often agree with your limited view of limits, and agree that there are just limits we can't touch. Then you have someone that says they won't be limited, and then break those limits, as well as show society that it's no longer a limit. What happens afterward? Everyone else stops being limited by what they previously thought was their limit. Admit you have a limit and be limited by it, or tell yourself that's not your limit and push the limits.
David Allen, Jordan Peterson actually made a video similar to your point. Were people go for too dificult jobs that don't suit their iq and turnout miserable. th-cam.com/video/pu__97bVyOc/w-d-xo.html
David Allen What you said relates a lot to what I’ve been thinking about and that being that it’s better to be inspired by someone rather than to idolize someone.
why does literature and humanities always come up in psychology related videos
That is one of the most useful 2.34 minutes ever. I just love this man. Thank you JP a thousand times. 1:11 .
Hv known very capable people whom, like he said, got crushed by life disasters, several big punches within a short period of time. They tried and tried but couldn't bounce back, were crushed under the weight of it all. Fell into the anxiety/depression hole which of course makes things worse and hinders the ability to climb out.
Never thought it was mental illness, is a reasonable reaction to devastation in a person's life. Completely overwhelmed, not knowing which way to turn, sinking ship. The ever present fear and loss of hope of being able to regain their former strong and familiar selves can debilitating.
Update: human resilience is amazing. It is within you too. Happened to me and lived to tell. Took a couple of years, one foot in front of the other towards the light despite setbacks. Simplify life, push aside the sound of crushed hopes & dreams and surrounding chaos. You don't hv control over it anyway, eventually it subsides.
Agree and I've never heard it explained like this until now. I'm currently dealing with this in my life. Too much loss & trauma. It's a real bitch.
It's remarkable that people go to TH-camrs for this kind of information when you have such a learned and distinguished Professor with all of his material online.
I've long seen it this way with my own mental health issues. Whenever people ask me why, I just say I've been through too much and my mind couldn't take it. And I do think such distress can definitely cause physical health issues as well. The mind is very much connected to the body, after all. So it's not strange to me that they affect each other.
Ryptoll I agree
I think that might be right. I had a distant cousin who went through a mental breakdown. Looking back he had always had OCD tendencies (washing his hands until they practically bled, having to touch a doorknob so many times before using it, etc...) but the last few years of his life he started drinking heavily, became increasing paranoid, spent all his time online reading up on conspiracy theories and becoming obsessed with them. He attempted to kill himself at least twice that I know of and presumably managed to do it in the end.
Meanwhile, he was having physical issues that one could seem to figure out, his live in girlfriend had a lifelong heart condition and other ailments that would cause her to have very bad days and he would often say that they both had bad days and they always seemed to happen at the same time and he was mentally beating himself up over not being able to take care of her.
On top of that his mother (his only parent, admittedly not a great parent as she was a bit of a drunk and could be verbally cruel) died of cancer and he had been taking care of her on his own but, as it would happen, he had run to town to pick up supplies the day she died and, to his mind, he said the ambulance people looked, to him, like they were judging him for not being around. Not to mention, she was, to the end, full of malice and always complained about everything he tried to do for her.
He had a lot of reasons to go the way he did but, sadly, until reading your post, I never really thought to connect the two. Now, I wish I had while he was alive.
This.
When under stress human body for some unknown reason produces cortisol hormone which I would label self-destruct mechanism It not only shuts down the immune system, makes you fat but also makes you feel extremely bad and every system in the body starts to fail.
I had that kind of experience when I was under stress which logically should not even be there. and when you need your body working at that top performance to overcome problems it decides to destroy itself as if you do not have enough problems already.
I cannot understand why humans even have that kind of self-destruct system
Ryptoll healing is hard honestly. Not that there's not too much on TH-cam without a real reasonable solution. We have to take stock of who we are in any and all ways.
I am an engineer and I agree. The more complex the code gets, the harder it is to debug when an error occurs. Actually it's easy to fix the error but if you want to trace the root cause of the error to prevent cascading or similar errors, it just takes a lot of time and effort. That's why most engineers keep code as simple and as modular as possible to make it more manageable. If only life was as structured and as easy to understand and manage.
William of Ockham was on to it. Interesting that he was a monk - member of a community attuned to simplification from complexity.
I've always been a big fan of engineers and logical thinking. My degree was in statistics and I like to break up the problem and try to solve the parts. It's not always easy, as we're emotional animals, but I try my best to think logically. My stress trigger is illogical people and people who refuse to consider solutions. My mother likes the attention of constantly having problems, and it took me many years to figure out I was wasting my time listening to her and devising solutions for her when she just wanted the attention, not to actually solve the problem. She would just get angrier because I was solving the problem which meant she wasn't getting attention for it. My advice to young people is to not waste your precious youth on that nonsense. Spend time with productive people.
How do programmers get away w/calling themselves "engineers"?
Lol remember when engineering was about engines?
@@annaravenhand5536 Maybe they have an engineering degree and a professional engineering license? I am a consultant for industrial air pollution control, which is mostly being familiar with regulations and doing paperwork. Nothing with engines lol. But I do have two engineering degrees and a professional engineering license.
@@kencurtis2403 But having a job that's different from your degree isn't the same as having a job that's different from your job title.
Why would licensing for programmers be the same as for people who work w/engines?
They call it breakdown, but really it is a build up!
that sound reasonable
whoa now that you mention it...
You can't break something down until it's been built up. That's the balloon analogy.
Yes that’s right
I had an extremely traumatic childhood and I fell this lead to developing my mental illness.
Agree
As someone who has 'been there done that' I know that you are spot on with your thinking. A popular song when I was going through a suicidal depression was Roy Clark's "Right of Left at Oak Street" in which a man comes to an intersection he encounters every day on his way to work. In the song he has stopped at that intersection and asks himself if he should right like he always does and go to work, or should he turn left and keep going to escape it all. To me the left turn was a metaphore for suicide.
Complexity. Have never heard of this "angle" to mental breakdowns before. It makes good sense. This is one extremely valuable lesson.
Add to that that some people can't process many things at once - they start to stress. We're all built differently, like different electric capacitors. We all can't take the same load.
It was the stress of work and working long hours that started me with depression for 20yr now I am OAP 68 yr old life is great even during lockdown
Honestly posted
I've had to quit a few jobs in my lifetime to reduce the amount of stress it caused me. It wasn't an easy decision but I had no alternative.
Im 47yrs old, lived a hugely varied life...and this 2.34sec video blew me away!
It seems dr peterson has recently lived through this himself with everything that hit him at once.
This is why I listen to this man, he actually lived through this himself
B.T Hourigan agreed, however he gave these lectures before his own major problems I believe. However I hope he can recover as can the world from this pandemic ✊
Has he really?
Hi, what has he gone through, please?
@@mathonamoore123 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson
@Chaos Wizard I keep watching videos about the sky and until I leave here personally I'm wondering what his agenda is you bring up Hitler just enough to make himself like a cool guy that's a full picture the cause and effect that's what scares me he talks about climate change like yeah it's been going on for whatever well if we can do something for Our Generation coming up and after that let us do that all these people that want to see their God little brother broken brains out their call I'd rather have grass and trees and stars in the f****** sky and not two hundred degree weather and whatever takes to get that done let it
My problem is just loneliness and isolation. It bleeds over into other areas of my life. I have no partner and it hurts to not have companionship and someone to share life with. Doesn’t seem like the biggest of problems to me, but it got so bad I was feeling suicidal for over a year. Surprisingly, giving up on ever finding a partner actually helped stop my brain from having so many destructive, negative thoughts.
I actually thrive on my own. I like it. Find things that you really like to do and do them. Focus on you and on what you can accomplish that improves your life.
I gave up on finding somebody and ironically that is when I found somebody.
If it makes you feel any better I live in an apartment complex with 28 units. There are only 2 units occupied by married or "just living together" people. The rest are all single, and that includes both women and men. dare I say It? Pets are the "partners" these days! Love has gotten too complex or too scary for a lot of people. You aren't alone.
Peterson is spot-on per usual....my brother committed suicide and it was the meeting of bad circumstances....job loss...marriage breaking up....etc. the one factor Peterson didn't mention is drug use.....a lot of people need that extra push to take their own life and many times it's by pickling the brain with alcohol or other drugs that allows them to make the final decision to seem rational.
Just had an aquaintence (but good friend of my friends)do that - and he was drinking excessively that night , if not for probably a doy or two before that.
When you drink to get drunk in consecutive days , the brain is void of ANY serotonin ,...but the dangerous thing about alcohol - esp. to people who "drink" ..... is that you can be "inebriated" , yet still feel somewhat "sober" .......
Drinking ALWAYS makes a depressed brain worse .....may not be immediate, but it eventually happens .........
Yes drug use and also I believe the over use of mind altering and addictive prescription medications eg. Xanax
Yeah. Been browsing the suicide subreddit and have seen a post about how alcohol & getting really drunk makes the final decision easier. (Well, the poster was obviously still alive, but I'm thinking the fact still stands)
@@hazor777 just happened to a friend almost same scenario but he was talked out of murdering the murderer of his friend.strange thing is I was the sober one in the group but I wanted him to kill the murderer after all he deserved it.eye for eye tooth for a tooth.
I have friends with severe epilepsy, schizophrenia and manic bipolar. Their first and worst moments all intersect with very complex times in their lives. It's very difficult to be a friend sometimes
"People's lives dont end when they die, it ends when they lose faith"
- Itachi
Then I died a long long time ago
@Foodie Pootie faith IS not REAL just like hope & belief ALLL not REAL recognise what’s REAL
Lmao kid
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Naruto fan what a legend
I would say I was, pretty level and easy going about 5 years ago. Then, within a two week period, I had a relationship fall apart from the other person cheating with numerous people, I read all of the texts, had a panic attack that night and didnt know what it was. A week later, my job managing a major craft store, that sought me out to work for them, just up and let me go one day, with no clue it was coming and no reason givin. I left the building in tears, got in my car , called my mom to tell her, and dont ask me why, but after I explain I have been fired, she decided to tell me " well, I haven't been completely honest with you for a couple years now...." and decided this was the time to tell me she has a serious health problem! I lost it. I screamed at her, threw my phone across the car, and wanted to drive into a brick wall.
A week later, my 18 years old cat I'd hate since she was born in my apt, passed on.
These 4 things, combined , have made me a mess for the last 5 years. I had systptoms happen to me that scared the heck out of me, so I went to get help. My vision was going blurry, couldnt swallow, ringing in my ears, numbness in my hands and arms, it was horrible. Now ,I'm on meds to help me get through these spells.
It’s for your soul awakening to realize who you truly are and your existence is your power itself. You will be so strong!
Much Love and keep going ❤️ Check out diaphragmatic breathing. Practice 40 minutes in the morning and in the evenening. It will help to handle and observe the emotions rather to identify with Themen.
Good luck with everything, Earl. I’m somewhere out in the world and I care about you.
Get on your knees and cry out to God. Ask Him to come into your life, ask forgiveness for your sins. You are precious to Him, He will help you. I will pray for you.
@@sherrymacaroni5916 he doesn't need religion he needs awakening. Earl, please check out the book shift into freedom by loch Kelly. It's on Amazon for only a dollar right now and it WILL change your life from the inside out. you will discover the inner peace and joy you need desperately right now.
This hasn't been the case with me at all. Of course, as I became increasingly unable to navigate the complexities of life, it did exacerbate my depression and anxiety. However i feel like the root problem is a lack of sense of purpose and connectedness and an inability to extract a feeling of gratification or gratitude from anything. They say that's a symptom of depression and not a cause, but I feel otherwise. Time will tell.
Me too - but our inability to feel gratitude from anyone is an extra issue in our lives, adding to to the complexity of our lives - thereby a subset of the complexity problem.
I hear what you are saying, I have gone through that point in my life as well, but I also think it does relate to what is being discussed in this video because I think finding a central purpose is something that can help people to simplify their lives.
After going through a burn out period I shifted my focus into creating a more permanent living situation and a developing a more engaging creative process. This in turn led me to drop a lot if superfluous things in my life that had previously been taking attention.
I've researched a lot of religions, meditation, and self-help practices, and although they all offer tools to help mitigate the suffering in our lives, I agree with the idea that ultimately as humans we are limited beings, and many issues in our lives really come down to limitations in our ability to make good decisions in complicated situations. So I think the more we can simplify our lives, the better chance we have of making good decisions.
Also in response to the chicken or the egg when it comes to depression, I would suggest practicing meditation. What certain practices help you achieve is the ability to disengage the emotional sensations of your mind from the motivational processes that result in physical actions.
A simple way I like to think of it is, like driving a car without being aware that our feet are constantly pressing the pedal. So we are in a constant state of driving because we don't want to hit anything on the road. Meditation is like putting the car in neutral, so that even though our thoughts may still be running, it has disengaged the process from motivating your actions.
Once in that neutral state you no longer are worried about driving and it frees your mind now to observe other things and practice other forms of thought because you are no longer obligated to focus on the road.
Me too.
Emotions are the bodies way of deciphering thousands of subconscious thoughts and sensory input data...
The lack of purpose comes because a stop in our growth. We stop growing and experiencing things in relation to our morals and desires. This feeling Can even come about from an unhealthy body.... If you would sit down and ask yourself why, and retrospectively link cause and effect... from this you will learn that everything in life is ordered exactly as it should be.. and that as a living creature our only purpose is to live and experience this world... as an individual your desires and morals differ from others. You will never find purpose or joy looking outwards... only when you look inwards and learn to understand yourself can you achieve this.
Understand no one is special..
The need to be special brings feelings of inferiority... about ourselves or others....when In reality happiness is an inside job, and is only a reflection of our unfocused or uncontent thoughts...no one is any more special than any one else. We are creatures of nature and thats its. And feelings of uncontentness or unhappiness are massive motivators for change... they are there to help you grow.
Focus on what you want to experience, or have ever found interesting. And take actions toward shifting your perceptions into a new reality. And make life happen because of you. Instead of just happening to you. And you will find the peace you desire.
Swear on my life yoga sorted out 99% of the anxiety and depression - just have to practice every single day.
The 1:00 mark hits so hard for virtually EVERYONE right now. It's terrifying that he says this 4 years ago ( as I'm writing this) and this is what life has been for almost everyone since COVID-19 became a thing... Hang in there everyone, you're not alone.
yep $coVid$ came and disappeared. i guess it did not generate enough $mula$ for the $vaccine$ $cartel$
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Everyone listening to and commenting here should read “ As A Man Thinketh” by James Allen. We are not products of our circumstances but of our thoughts. My thoughts are focused on God and I have never been more grateful and blessed.
I'll check it out. And definitely agree! Whatever religion you follow it's always the same God, the one that gives you morality and a reason to live
Amen! JESUS SAVES...starts with renewing of the mind and putting GOD first...accessing a peace that surpasses all understanding...thats GOD! Thank u, thank u, thank u.
@@Respectations The peace that surpasses all understanding is in reference to that which is beyond thought. It beings with our willingness in thought that first turns us towards God, but it is our utter and complete abandonment to the Will of God that leads to the silence of the mind. For what does a mind who trust absolutely in God have to think, to plan, to do? It is this cessation of thought that is the infinite and indescribable, non-verbal peace and boundless joy, that thought knows nothing of. Indeed, because we identify ourselves with a steam of thoughts, and believe that is what we are, that it is said by God "I am where you are not". Where thought is not, God is. Where we are not, Love is.
This is what Jesus spoke of - the peace of God - and he gave himself so we may be led to him, to Truth. This thought-free bliss and unconditional love is what sages such as Ramana Maharishi and Nisargadatta Maharaj point to, who have realized the eternal nature of ourselves and our true identities not as thought, but as one and the same with God's being.
@@zain4019 thank u.🙏
I agree. My entire life has been complex. It’s a miracle I’m alive.
I lost my career job of decades. I couldn't accept the life altering change.... and the loss of my purpose, identity, structure, workplace atmosphere, coworkers, friends and driving my routes etc. Stress, into anxiety, into insomnia, into severe depression. It's been 6 months of horror so far!. Im suffering mentally and physically now... and with no hope or desires in sight... 🙏
I don’t know if we will ever have the full picture on mental illness but when we do I think it will include a spiritual component beyond our normal comprehension. ❤️🤗
mind, body, spirit yes (it's why just taking a pill isn't going to do the job but just "pulling up your socks" isn't either)
Fear and suffering are the usual spiritual components of any mental illness.
I think the full picture is coming sooner than we think. and it's going to involve getting people to recognize the dimension of their awareness that isn't identified with their societal roles, appearances, expectations , and life story. all of that is the baggage that Jordan describes as "complexity". it's the story of who we think we are and who we think we have to be that causes our suffering, and Transcendence, healing, and integration of that new way of knowing is possible when we realize that we are so much more. Loch Kelly's book Shift Into Freedom and Rob Burbea's Seeing That Frees" are must-reads.
Yeah no, if there was we should already be seeing clues and signs. Everything works together after all, what's why we often know what we're looking for before we've fully found it.
Maybe beyond yours but scientists should not have something beyond comprehension really bcs nothing is impossible
based inner child bang on my friend👍
I'm 16 and this was explained so well. Thank you
Same lol, sometimes you cant do anything when your whole life until 18 is controlled by bad parents.
Really? Explain to me again.
Im crying right now because i didnt know that it was normal to feel those feelings when i was going threw it. At least i didnt think anyone had knowledge or understood, if i could go back in time i would have asked for help alot sooner. Thank u xoxox
Such a brilliant man. Love listening to him speak
Time is a precious thing, never waste it.
Willi wonka
I agree. And the scary thing is, that many doctors don't think this way. That is scary.
Thats why they call suicide taking the easy way out. Death is far easier then living, except after death, there is nothing, life is full of experience, both good and bad. So the choice is, experience good and bad or experience nothing.
but when you believe in afterlife and jugdment day that this life is just a path not permenent home, permanent home is afterlife and what ever you do in this world have a consequence on afterlife good or bad, with this you can bear the suffering with full heart that ok life is not good but God will bless me in afterlife which is permanent.
if someone not belive in afterlife than whats the point of living why are you bearing the suffering easy way is to die so you wont exist anymore the end of suffering, so suicide obviously not a good idea people die on their oppointed time thats again a sign of existing of Almighty God he gave time so you can search the straight path, so you can search him, but today human beign is busy with money alot of money earning money is not bad but again you have millions you die millions turn into nothing you left with what you have done with your life, which actually have a consequence on permenent life, so please dont ruin your permanent life.
@Psychonaut what bad decisions?
@Psychonaut you know him personally?
@Psychonaut so am I but I don't feel the need to express an unnecessary perception of how this brilliant man is coping with such horrendous things
@@mr.m4580 This is the seduction of suicide. It has also been romanticized by some people who actually see suicide as brave. In some societies, such as among the samurai, it was seen as an honorable death. Most people in modern societies are looking for a way out of emotional anguish
This explains me so much I’m crying from enlightenment
This reflection is total genius. The problem is more complexity than facing the problem. That totally makes sense.
It can be argued that my massive bipolar breakdown is a result of difficulty changing countries as a youth, but plenty of people go through much worse than me without a breakdown just from studying. What is clear is my genetic predisposition to my disorder. I wouldn't call it complexity, though I do understand the point made. I think my mind overcomplicated things for me rather than things actually being complicated
Brilliantly explained. Life certainly can be very overwhelming.
This is certainly true and as someone who treats mental illness I can tell you that true illness is vastly over diagnosed. True major depression, I’m talking slowed thinking, psychomotor retardation, profound hopelessness…it’s there, but very rare that it comes with no environmental loading and nowhere near as common as the number of times you see it casually placed on a chart. The more common depressions have become extinct, because insurance companies won’t pay for them.
In my opinion, people in this generation have a lot harder time staying focused and not distracting themselves. Our society is much more stressful nowadays.
I believe that learning to focus plays a significant role in overcoming anxieties etc. (that is practicing things like meditation and being calmer)
I'm so glad his better we need him in this world.
Very impressive speech/lecture. Will be definitely watching more.
*"As you know, madness is like gravity...all it takes is a little push."*
_(The Joker - Heath Ledger)_
Gravity dont push?
@@maxodgaard1335 No, what they mean is that you just need a little push in that direction and like gravity, it will take you down as far as you can go/let it.
Dammit! Your avatar tricked me. Swiped my screen 2 different times before I realized it wasn't a hair, it was you. lol.
@@Lee-fw9mr gottem
"The political system, there's hyperinflation, you lose your job, and loved ones die" - he just explained the coming next couple years. Yikes
Justifiable meltdowns: Nuclear generation
Problem is for some such things happen over and over and over thru their life. It is never ending. Unlike Job who eventually had a respite later in life. For some only death Will bring peace... perhaps in their 70s..?
@@ranterredhead5005 Slur-CVA detected! Psychological vs. Physical
Shooter.
@@evelyntrowbridgecone5286 what is CVS?
Perhaps stress just causes one to have possible earlier death as a cause???
That is exactly, what I thought. If people are not prepared (which most aren’t and couldn’t anymore when shtf.) there will be either Depression or wild Riots. I assume the second, because the people are already pushed to their defense line. When those loose grip, someone will have to pay. Prepare for that too.
Yes, this has happened to me twice so far - where I wanted to just get in my car and drive away from my entire life. I really don't know how to keep going. When a person is without family, children and their friends are predeceasing them it's just one door after another slamming in one's face.
“The frightening thing is not dying, the frightening thing is not living.”
T Bone Burnett
Stoic truth
Id like to say, I wish I was his student.
Then again, he continues to teach me without knowing who I am.
Aren't we all students?
Out of the company of two, someone will be your teacher.
@@mael-strom9707 yep. As long as one is willing to learn.
Thank you. You have such a wonderful way of explaining things in terms that I understand, grasp and can relate to. You’re absolutely extraordinary, unique and brave! Even your voice - if it belonged to another person, would sound like bland, though scratchy, Canadian twang. However, I hang on every word that comes out of your mouth. You’ve nailed it so many times. Brilliant delivery! Thank you so much Mr. Peterson, for your compassion. Thank you for your guidance, your patience and your dedication.
Keep on truckin’ x
“Collapse in the direction of their biological weakness” stealing that
"i've seen it in mortals, that some conflict of the mind expresses itself as an ailment of the body"
Ay 2814 gang!
It's so obvious how right he is. Even he succumbs to weaknesses when overcome with complexity. It's not mental illness, life's just hard, eh?
@Michael Hayes @Michael Hayes I assume you're an atheist who's into marxism eh?
If you automatically assume the worst of this great man, I don't know what to tell you. You've been bought and sold by propaganda, and you probably think you're not.
Let's run through each of your outlandish claims.
1. "he didn't accept his schizophrenia diagnosis" (citation needed)
2. He wasn't a drug addict. That is the most uncharitable perspective of the hell he went through for over a year. He was PRESCRIBED by his doctor that HE TRUSTED, and did not take extra. Like I said, we wouldn't have people on every corner in LA shooting up if doctors were handling the opioid crisis properly. It's not even that he "got hooked", if you ever listened to his story (probably not), you would know he suffered several complications one after another because of other auto-immune drugs he needed for a different disease. His daughter has very similar auto-immune issues. He trusted his doctor and the drugs he was "prescribed" failed him because, guess what, life is hard, and humans make errors. go figure.
3. "blamed the medical science in general" Everything you said in this response just screams that you don't think opioids are a huge problem. It's almost like you just don't know. It's like you think every doctor that prescribes an opioid does it perfectly, and almost every person who uses it is a junkie. Truth is, some people actually need opioids to manage severe pain, and at the same time it's being overprescribed, or misprescribed often. Feel free to prove me wrong, but Jordan probably thinks opioids are by far the most overprescribed med, and most doctors can actually get the med right for people that need a less physically taxing or dependent med.
4. His room is probably cleaner than yours.
5. Carry his cross? Now you're just reaching for religious jabs.
6. His posture is fine, what are you on?
7. He's not suicidal anymore. But if you experience the hell he went through, you probably would be suicidal at that time too.
8. If you haven't seen him lately, he's in his prime. He seems a bit more humble and more willing to "give the devil his due" when conversing with people on his podcast.
Yes. Complexity can cause suffering if it is beyond our control.😢
You know what causes cancer in laboratory rats?Humans.
Tarheel Billy Cool story.
Tarheel Billy not all ..some have cancer before they become lab rats ..
You know what causes rock solid doodoo in my colon is eating nothing but bran cereal
What's a Can Sir?
Being too intellectual allows us to commit all types of evil in the name of mankind, that's why it better to put morality over intellect.
The moral of the story: if we helped each other, then they'll be less mental suffering.
Thats not his message but you are correct
@@Tzaltochnie1 if people suffer b/c they are overwhelmed then logically it follows that to prevent or alleviate this, other humans should help. That's the conclusion I drew from this.
@@mxu111 yes, but not if it's coerced
There is such thing as helping too much or the wrong reasons to say "help others" is simplistic the world is a complicated multi variable place sometimes your emotions are something you should give into, drug abuse, violence, anxiety, etc
Help is too vague
Mingzhao Xu you cant help anyone who doesn’t want help and wants to stay stuck in a victim mentality.
@@brendareed5050 you know some people don't want help because they think they'll become a burden, or because they think that no matter how much help they get they'll never change and that everyone will get tired of helping them and get frustrated with them. Not wanting help IS a part of the mental illness. Even many physically ill people don't ask for help. They tell themselves everything is fine so that no one worries and then it's too late. Even old people don't ask for help because they don't want to be a burden.
Try to understand them and sympathize with them instead of calling it wanting to be stuck in a victim mentality. God forbid if it's your kid you'll end the person who'll tell your kid that's he's playing the victim by not wanting help.
every video you produce is a must-see, keep them coming!
The largest slice of the pi graph for mental illness is lack of love in childhood. Love is used as a coercive tool, withheld and used to control. This behaviour is generational and is often so entrenched that people don't know they're doing it.
When I can't cope on emotional level, my mind becomes irrational. Listening to good reason is helpful.
This is exactly why I have a very hard time when I hear people say that depression is always a matter of chemical imbalance, and the only way to treat it by throwing dangerous addictive antidepressants at it.
Ha.
You can always respond that apparently mean things are said because of their jaws is constantly move up and down and the only way to shut them fuck up is a jab.
To remain sane in an insane society is the greatest challenge of all.
“It is not death I fear, but rather a life not lived” - Lorenzo D’Medici
These quotes are so dumb. If you are standing here, breathing, consciously reading this comment, congratulations you are living life.
@@GoldenMushroom64 You cannot be this stupid.
@@GreedAndSelfishness apparently he can be
@@GoldenMushroom64 that’s it? That’s “living life” to you?
Hussain what do your say , hello
0:49 Jordan Peterson just described 2020 before it was even a year.
Just remember no matter how bad it is, it can always get better. Get on medication, it makes a huge difference! Especially if it’s anxiety or psychosis. Never lose hope! I don’t know you but I love you. It does get better. Hang in there!
The reason for all mental illness is that we pay too much attention to our own mental processes rather than to all of the things around us through the senses. We can come out of this by changing the position of our eyes and taking our attention away from the thinking elements of the brain. These processes will still continue to work much like the liver and kidneys work and anything of value from them will come down into the main system. The eyes floats in the center of it all between the thinking processes and what we are seeing through the senses. You can find stillness there and everything will report to the eyes.
Of all the schools of thought that I have read into, Buddhist thought seems a good one, at least for me. This entire material realm is illusory, transitory, and empty of any real and lasting value. Everything we see around us is man made and impermanent. Sure we should have nice things but not become attached to them as they end in disappointment. Do not become the mouse that runs all day in the wheel to get the pellet of food only to become exhausted and still without the pellet. The weak point of our biology will not then be taxed to the point of breakdown. There will be no pressure.
Joe Piervincenti for me as well, and I think it could help a lot of people struggling with mental illnesses of all kinds.
Rylee Hi. It's a fascinating subject.
Completely agree Joe. Buddhism is incredibly profound and useful. I also find certain aspects of Hinduism useful too, such as the idea of the self as God.
Stoicism (which is perhaps the closest Western equivalent to Buddhism, once you read into it) and Buddhism hold much wisdom - I like both. ;)
Kieren Morre I personally prefer stoicism. The reason for that is that you don't really need to make any big assumption in order to live by it. It's philosophy rather than religion, so I consider it a better alternative. But yes, Buddhism does provide some interesting ideas, as does Jainism too.
I was gaslighted by my parents from childhood until they died when I was fifty-two. Almost took my sanity but I made it.
I am wishing to buy my own place someday soon, so that I can get out of my toxic family. My relatives and family friends also come to visit our family, they too are toxic and say mean discouraging stuff to me everytime they come.
I have social anxiety and low self esteem. I wish to treat it with affirmations. I need to be alone and free from toxic people.
@EL GRECO 777 my mom was a mentally ill prostitute and my father a criminal heroin junky also very mentally ill. both were narcissists and abused me relentlessly until their death gaslighting me my entire life. i would kill them if they were sill alive. you have no fucking idea what you're talking about your parent's form you and your attachment style and ability to bond and have healthy relationships. my parent's basically nuked me from orbit for 45 years. you can talk shit if you want until you have been manipulated your whole life only to wake up after the manipulators have died. fuck off idiot im a psychopath but hey its what i always wanted. i scored top 4% in the nation on SAT in the 70s i have a 132 IQ. i was gaslighted and made the scapegoat because they couldn't handle me and my mind. i had dreams of being a professional saxophone player and a jet pilot and they told me i was worthless and my dreams were a joke every day of my life. they destroyed me by the time i was 35 i was almost dead. sick people breed sick children im lucky to survive im 55 now. you seem about as stupid as them you deserve to die too. maybe some torture like the tortured me just for kicks. fuck off.
@EL GRECO 777 You're a piece of garbage. Don't you dare underestimate someone's trauma
@@truescotsman4103 Why did you listen to them? At a certain point you surely knew they were full of bs.Not having a go at you, just wondering. My narc parents are similar, especially nmum, but I know her opinion doesn't matter to me anymore. So I just go on with my life.
@@vexs7268 children are innocent they don't know what to do. i tried when i was about 6 i went to the neighbors house and asked if i could live with them. when asked why i said my family is sick. little did i know then that i was correct. when your parents gaslight you from childhood you're trapped in a sort of stockholm syndrome they feed you and give you a house you can't see yourself without those things i had no agency nobody has ever looked out for me except me. its easy for someone like you do dismiss my experience from your perspective. you have no idea what you're talking about. i was isolated and alone in the world they triangulated me and scapegoated me i was destroyed. you have no idea.
Brilliant, as always. I’d never thought of it that way but makes perfect sense.
Thank You so much JP for everything! You change lives❤
For me it’s
Negative emotions, for example I’m with a person who makes me feel drained and most other people I know are the same
I dunno how to deal with it
That happens to me as well:negative energy from people who aren't practical with their emotions. I didn't know what to do for the longest time about it. I went to counselling and they said: know your worth, know what makes you soak up other's energy like a sponge (empath) and limit your contact with those people to tolerable levels where possible. Mostly it's them with the bad vibes, not you at all. But know your limits and act on them, be true to your health. Hope that helps a little
If people make you feel drained that is because you let them.You have to set limits as to how they can interact with you, you will loose nothing by ignoring these people, or treat them the same way.You are not there for these people to play games with.You have a right to live the way you want as long as you dont take other people's rights and priviledges.You can even tell them directly not to mess with you.I know what you mean , I've been thru' the same, just tell them off !
Read great books, I call it spiritual hangout with the best human beings ever lived.
Get away from the negativity.
Hang around people that you want to be or become. Positive, happy, confident, selfless people.
I understand that this story he tells is believable, but I can fucking promise you that my depression came out of fucking nowhere. I was literally at the high point of my life, as low stress as I'd been ever in my entire life, next thing you know five years have gone by and the cloud is truly, finally, completely lifting and I'm realizing everything I've missed. Fucking brutal.
slapchop14
Diet, toxins, chronic stress...
Glad to see that life is getting better for you. It's sometimes hard to believe that better days will come, so thank you for sharing your experience that it does happen.
+Dalia Ramos The reason your parents did not seek help for their mental illness is because they, too, believed their mental illness was genetic. So instead of seeking help, they just blamed their parents.
Dalia Ramos Nope, but it's great to see you projecting your family's experience on mine. No history of mental illness on either side of my family tree, whether the branches are close (parents) or far (cousins). I'm the trailblazer in my family. There goes that theory.
Joe Shmoe 5'11, 182 lbs, love my job, married my dream girl, have lots of money, travel all the time.
Next...
EDIT: I can list more cool things about me, but at some point you are going to either A) decide I'm bragging or B) decide I'm making this up. By giving me your cookie cutter, dime store diagnosis, you've already discounted anything that I am going to say, and basically rejected anything that I write since you've already decided that you know to root of all mental illness. If people want to offer their story, either read it or ignore it. Leave the online Doctoring to WebMD.
He explained it well.
Very wise- true. How many of us are going through this right now- a boat load?
Fudge... yes, people do have that happen.
My father, mother and brother died about six months apart. Got a divorce, got fired and I got cancer during the whole shit show.
I'm not upset or sad about it at all. It's been liberating, I choose to be happy and happy I am.
samtech79 : something did give . Impacts everything , even when we
Don’t actually acknowledge that it did .
Holy smokes!
Are you okay now with the cancer
@@crappyaccount Thanks for asking.
...no... but really, it's ok. That bucket list is getting shorter!
@@Robsav-yx6vi True but I most certainly acknowledge things.
It's just how you play the hand your dealt.
Fighting my own mother in court, twice- burying my dad, fighting to stay sober through the stress, on top of work full-time and going back to school. She selected the times in my life that I was already stressed with the demands of my life at the time. She literally told the judge, if You just give it time, my daughter will* slip up. I didn't. But the way all of that hell and more, all at the same time-> anyone would have struggled. I'm still* not "right"...