i havent watched this sht but there is now way toji loses,pickle didnt survive the metiorite ,he was locked in a mountain of salt that preserved his (dead ) body
Baki is on such a bullshit level of skill that this kinda reminds me of Toji vs Sakamoto in that the skill gap is just wayyyyyyyyy too much to overcome
Sakamoto slaps toji in the butt no dd Toji has heavenly restriction thats the only reason he can go toe to toe with sakamoto but even if sakamoto would win against toji.
For clarification Baki was never superior against Yujiro in that fight, Yujiro never had the intention of killing baki or even hurting him badly in the first place, until the fight went on Yujiro took him a little more seriously and even allowed baki to get decent hits on him. Not to mention Yujiro litteraly Knocked out Baki 2x without even trying, and littearly after the fight Baki was left very damaged with broken ribs, blown out ear drumbs, broken skull , internal bleeding etc. While Yujiro was left with no significant damage , and i know what your going to say but but Yujiro declared Baki the strongest, in context and in the fight he wasnt winning in anyway and the reason Yujiro declared him is cause prior to the match Baki wanted Yujiro to cook for him and Yujiro made up an imaginary meal for Baki at the end of the fight
to add onto this the fight was themed after a father son scuffle. it was no different then a kid showing his father the macaroni art he made. Bakis girlfriend commented on why They kept going when Baki lost like 10x and they both just kept going at it stating she doesn’t understand. Yujiro just has insane respect for baki because hes the only creature who doesnt die against Yujiro with one tap
This isn't accurate either, after baki activated his demon back which he can't do at will which is the reason he had to take damage first, yujiro didn't hold back physically, he only didn't use his full arsenal of techniques. Also by the end of the fight yujiro had used all his op techniques and only won because he had greater mastery over them than baki plus being physically stronger. But to say yujiro was not going all out isn't accurate considering he had done much worse on baki on the past.
@@Dimitriterrorman I wonder why you ignored the context of this fight in the first place? Yujiro never intended to even fight baki that day, he just wanted a simple meal with Baki, Baki then persisted by acting rude to Yujiro then Yujiro states that he is disciplining his son, Yujiro never used his op attacks to its fullest lol, even Baki tells yujiro to go all out because his not hitting vital organs. Are you gonna forget Yujiro litteraly immobolized baki in one hand just to pat his head this is including demon back btw. Also the fact that Yujrio never genuinely got knocked out by Baki yet Yujiro knocked out Baki 2x shows how disengenous your being. And the undebunkable part is that when the fight ended Yujro left with no significant damage while Baki had broken bones, internal bleeding and busted ear drumbs
Baki: *Steals Toji's Soul Split Katana, the same way Toji stole Playful cloud from Maki* Toji: Understandable have a great day! *Goes back home to take care of Megumi*
@@Omniclad My dude, my guy I like Toji. He's my favorite JJK Character but trust me. Baki a whole different beast. Btw Baki's only weapon is Left Right Good Night.
@@vergilneedsmorepower473 Baki ain't beating toji, there's zero feat in baki verse that puts Baki above toni, there's only exaggerated statements for yujiro and the likes,the guy has never survived a nuke,the earth quake he stopped didn't destroy anything,it didn't even make a crack in the ground, pickle surviving an asteroid is also not true,the guy took zero damage from the asteroid and he has a huge as scar from a dinosaur bite,Baki is only about Mach speeds in the double digits,toji is lightning speed and is in the ranges of disaster curses who are at least town level,combined with his weapons toji wrecks.
Fr, the most braindead powescaling debate is when they argue that a MFTL character cant beat a sound speed character bc he got some cool hax, even if he cant react
@@DhruvchandraChandrq I was talking about Baki characters (ignoring the fact that the author sometimes forget how fast the characters are and write stuff like the sound fist from Katsumi), also tbh saying MFTL was assuming that the video was right bc tbh i don't see baki characters moving that fast but yeah, Idk why did you understood that i was glazzing jjk when I never said jjk
While I see your point, he kinda has been thrown from the top floor of a building directly into a car and came out mostly unscathed @@akaza_uppermoon_3417
@@NicoThefourth That's not what I'm saying. I even emphasised "in that form" specifically the Red hair Garou form. Stronger forms can in fact exorcise Mahoraga. Oh, I see what happened lol. By exorcise I mean kill/destroy. This version of Garou doesn't have any technique that can destroy the body of his opponent on a cellular level, and Mahoraga can regenerate on that level while gradually adapting to Garou. The speed and power gap is honestly not that wide.
@@Chopper-4m baki didn't block the sword of musashi why would he block the soul splitter katana when he can perfectly understand his opponents ability instantly?
I don’t think Baki beat yujiro lol like even Baki didn’t look at it as a win when the next arc came so it’s kinda weird saying Baki beat yujiro as a feat when it’s not that clear of an answer. To me Baki just did way better than last time especially with the mental games he was playing with yujiro
Yea, Baki didn’t beat Yujiro in a physical fight, he was only considered the winner because he was able to make Yujiro think that the food that Baki created out of his imagination was real. Baki stills scales somewhat to Yujiro though.
The whole point of the fight is suppose to be a father son scuffle. no different then a Father letting his son show him his macaroni art he made. Thats the writing of it. Yujiro held back a lot it isnt even funny. Bakis girlfriend commented mid fight why keep going when you Hold back here and there. Yujiro smiled and kept fighting like the demon he is Yujiro could have ended the fight numerous of times but didnt. Yujiro straight up whooped baki Low diff but had respect because he was probably the only one that could genuinely take a beating from Him without dying on the first blow
@@xHollow. dude, he literally used Demon back which is a 10x power boost. Base Yujiro is where most of the feats mentioned in this video come from, the instinctive lighting reaction speed, the casual earthquake stopping punch etc. So the fact that Baki could clash with and withstand hits from Base Yujiro (mind you, a Yujiro using techniques) and push him into his demon back form, even if he did that just out of respect, Baki would still be relative to Yujiro regardless. So even if you think it’s a low diff or whatever, it doesn’t change a thing in this match up as both Yujiro and Baki simply outscale the feats shown from the past. Especially since Yujiro grows stronger with each passing day, just naturally, so much so that Yujiro of today would beat Yujiro of yesterday. So Baki showing relativity to even base Yujiro at that point means both him and Yujiro would defeat the past Yujiro who stopped an earthquake. Like I said, low diff or whatever, it’s completely irrelevant to Baki’s scaling.
Baki knocked out Yujiro once and forced Yujiro to rely on raw physical stats rather than martial arts in order to get out of his submission hold which was a fight ending move. In terms of pure martial arts skill, Baki was superior to that version of Yujiro And Baki was also faster than Yujiro as well, especially highlighted when Yujiro used his fathers tech and Baki was fast enough to make a toy out of the car parts he was being smashed into while Yujiro never saw or perceived it, and in general Baki was shown to be faster than Yujiro Yujiro has the raw strength and durability advantage but definitely scales
Funny thing about Toji is apparently he's at full strength during Shibuya due to the name used to reanimate him, "Toji Zen'in" and seeing how a 15 finger Sukuna did Jogo, it makes sense a full power (non mental nerfed) Toji is manhandling Dagon, what is really interesting is that with all his tools, could he actually beat current Sukuna if it was in a 3v1 with Maki and Yuji? 🤔
Like what is Toji gonna do when Baki hits him with the infamous nutshot, as Retsu said, no amount of training can increase the durability of your balls
4:30 i disagree, instincts are the most pure and raw form or reaction speed. Instincts should be the fastest form of fighting/ dodging, not to say he 100% maxed out on instinct to dodge.
@@Super-Saiyan-Blue-Gogeta keisuke hates giving Baki the upper hand all the time, but he went toe to toe with Yujiro nonetheless, and Yujiro is no joke
@@cheesist6998 He did not. Yujiro wasn't going near full power in that fight and it often wasn't referred to as a fight. We also see Baki get bodied by Musashi later on with just his mind slashes, while the same did not work on Yujiro.
Considering the insane feat in the early days of Baki that is heavily overshadowed by newer Baki fans who only watched the two main season of Baki and not even the old Baki anime. Baki would have already won before he could even let Toji use his full capacity of his Arsenal.
I do agree that Baki slams But do realize that the toji in hidden inventory is not his prime, if anything he’s physically stronger in Shibuya just without his weapons, tojis prime was before he met his wife and had Megumi which that version should be on par with his Shibuya version just with all his weapons so Hidden inventory toji < shibuya toji < prime toji
Its not glazing💀 every insane casual and upper high end feat in early Baki and modern Baki is very straightforward and blunt about it. It's how itagaki showcase the feat in a simple way that doesnt require Jimmy neutron brain power.
So with this are you basically saying that Baki could defeat and speed blitz Dagon..? Or that he would be able to defeat Young Gojo, or even able to stand a fight against Young Geto?
Toji couldn’t even beat young gojo before he was awakened, he had to wait days for gojo to be tired and restless and needed prep-time. And Geto is arguably the weakest special grade in all of jjk, handling him isn’t even a flex
@@ejgamingv7297 Ik, but he also wasn't on his prime, wich means he wasn't going on full potential, wich is totally different from what we saw on the Dagon fight, and Geto is not that weak too, compared to Gojo of course he is, but it's confirmed by Kenjaku himself, that if Geto hadn't spreaded his curses around Tokyo, he would have won against Yuta. And getting again to the point where this guy compared Baki and Toji, unless Baki is able to totally destroy Dagon in a 1v1, fight against Young Gojo (weakened), or even fight against every single one of the Zenin Clan (wich is kinda confirmed that Toji could kill them all if he wanted), Toji solos him
@@Jayman1305Dagon is the weakest disaster curse and is on the level of 2 finger Sukuna whilst Toji in his prime is equivalent to 5 finger Sukuna. He only beat Gojo before the awakening due to the fact that he wasn’t able to be sensed and Geto honestly should be given the rank first grade instead of special grade as he has zero feats whatsoever. Toji, even in his prime is not that strong of a character and despite what you Toji glazers wanna believe he’d easily be one shot by Jogo and Mahito, Jogo via his domain’s passive and Mahito simply by outsmarting Toji. Due to the fact that Baki characters are literally unaffected by every weapon in existence besides human fists for some reason I can see Baki being able to defeat a guy who relies solely on weapons and presumably knows next to zero martial arts based on us only ever seeing him do a spin kick, poorly formed punches, and a basic series of blocks the two latter only being effective due to his speed advantage on his opponents and his opponents being 15 year old children. Mind you, that speed advantage he had is irrelevant as Baki characters have done punches and blocks at the same speed if not faster.
Toji beat unawakened Teen Gojo because of the Inverted Spear of Heaven. As for the other two. Yeah, literally, yes he'd beat them, did you watch the video? Dagon could win with his domain, so that one is questionable but he does solo him if he doesn't open it (prob doesn't have the time to, before getting speed blitzed and beaten). And Young Geto is just kinda ass, idk what to tell you.
Baki would be missing one of his most op abilities if you use baki from before the musashi arc as he learned to read the mind waves of his opponent being able to predict his opponents move before his opponents are ready to act on them
Hey Ty this is a great video and is so far the only thing on YT that comes close to accurately depicting how strong Baki is in a verse related battle. This video could have been half and hour or so longer diving into all the different attacks Baki could fold Toji with. But in my humble opinion if I were to debate and explain it. I would just Bakis goto punch, The Jab destroys Toji. Bakis Jab is incredibly OP. First its outright stated and explained to be literally faster than the speed of light and the regular jab for human beings alloes them to perform feats of speed otherwise normally incable of. This is consistent in the first time the jab is ever mentioned and when its explained by Yujiro in Dou. Secondly the Jab can instantly knockout and opponent irregardless of durabiliy. The jab causes movememts in characters brains that forces people to become unconscious due to the sheer amount of brain movements happening in the head. Thirdly Baki characters have some minor soul hax. When a Baki character is knocked out their soul is quite literally stated and or seen visibly leaving their bodies for a moment "becoming lost" in a sense. Before eventually finding their way back to their bodies when they regain consciousness. This is supoorted by the fact removing Musashis soul permanently from his body is how he was able to die again, the fact Bakis soul has continued to persist fighting Yujiro beyond death although this did no damage including the fact Yuichiro resummoned himself through his own soul back from the dead, and by the fact Katsumi knocked out a sumo wrestlers soul from his body very briefly. So unless a character has a specific resistance to this hax or has a resistance to their soul being moved outside their own body, they would be instantly KOd unable to wake back up if their durability isnt high enough or abnormal enough. Only character that could honestly resist this is Sukuna in JJK. And lastly Baki can combine all of these aspects with another technique called the 0.5 second punch. Which enables him to have a level of precognition/mind reading to attack Toji during the gap in time his body would be capable of carrying out the thought to perfom an action and perfoming that action. Baki with his jab alone one shots Toji faster than the speed of light. How fast? Well theres a statement of Musashi in Dou of him moving in 0.0000... and theres like 10 or 12 0s mentioned specifically. So that would be MFTL at the absolute highest end since Baki has blitzed him with the same jab moving at that speed and Musashi was only able to then react by essentially precoging Baki. And if he felt like killing him he could just stomp him out or choke him out while hes unconscious and without a soul in his body.
personally, i feel like people still underestimate toji, he's more than capable, tho im not sure how well he'd do against any other characters, i do feel like people still ignore his capabilities, might be cause we haven't seen much of him, as he only lasted for a few episodes on screen lol
- 3:41 problem is no Baki character has survived a nuke, the closest to it is Yuichiro (Yujiro's dad) who they considered nuking but it was called off. Government officials also weigh the possibilty of Yujiro being nuked could very well work, but they don't wanna to try since Yujiro is always close to civilians and they don't wanna kill millions of people in the process, thus why they think he'd have to be in the middle of the Sahara desert for it to be a viable strategy. - 3:47 The asteroid never actually hit Pickle. Chicxulub crashed into the Gulf of Mexico, Pickle was frozen in Colorado. And Oliva absolutely did not shake the planet. And even if Pickle and Oliva did this, the city-mountain level scaling would be extremely inaccurate. - 4:15 Katsumi's Mach Punch and more importantly his Hitless Blow is a whiplash effect. It isn't launched at Mach 78 nor does it travel at that speed. It only reaches those ridiculous speeds the moment before impact. So it would be disingenuous and ignore the actuaal technique to say Baki and Yujiro can hust fight at this speeds normally. Yujiro blitzing the cops was only called at Supersonic+ and he still as never actually dodged lightning. It's only someone talking about him in a hypothetical scenario, he has yet to prove he's this fast. Baki's speed is crippled by the fact that he scales to Yujiro, who could not intercept or react to Baki's 0.5 Second Unconscious Jab, a punch that happens within the span of just half a second. As well as the fact that his Cockroach Tackle, arguably his greatest technique has a canon speed of only 168 mph. This match is literally Baki vs a considerably faster Yujiro, aka Toji.
One. it is stated And even numerous times In different way That Yujiro was Above any MANMADE weapon and weapons The likes Of nuclear bomb with CONSISTENCY and it was stated that He surpassed every current and past fighter that includes HIS OWN FATHER yuichiro. And even if Yujiro was on the Sahara desert and alone and the bomb dropped on him, It was Only a POSSIBILITY that it MIGHT work. It was clear they were hesitant about the idea. And your forgetting the fact that Yujiro stopped an earthquick that is high end town level of strength, which is already crazy for the majority of jjk character.
And It was even stated by the president of Obama that Yujiro's fist was more powerful than a nuclear bomb, and its probably not an overstatement since the earthquake feat was his early days and it was stated by general strydum that his growth in strength was Very fast every day.
@@Shorts-wb4hq doesn't matter since his feats and antifeats disapprove those statements. Feats holds presidence over empty statements. Even the earthquake being in the high-end town level of feats is a very generous statement and is very likely an outlier. As that isn't even close to the levels of power output by stuff like the Tsar Bomba. Consistantly Yujiro is comfortably multi-cityblock level. Obama also isn't a reliable source since this is the first time he's meeting Yujiro. He has never seen him fight or done a deep-dive into Yujiro's capabilities.
@@Pickle6432 uh huh...As you forgot the fact of Itagaki's words and A considerably Consistent Statement Of Him being Above Any Military Arsenal is literally a fact that every Panel mentioning his Status of Power. Since He was always being watched By the Satellite. 💀 I firmly believes that Obama knew his power.
@@Shorts-wb4hq yeah but he has to actually show that. That's like Homelander threatening Maeve that if she releases the airplane video he will "destroy everything" that doesn't make him planet level or whatever. Also the fact that they consider nuking him in the middle of the desert as a *possible* option means the statements aren't concrete. If Itagaki really wanted to showcase how superior to modern weapons the Hanmas are, then why not have Yuichiro survive the atomic bomb intially purposed to be used as a last measure against him.
@@Shorts-wb4hq no, lol, yujiro arguably loses to one colossal titan, the pure strength behind the titans would literally just kill yujiro, especially the Warhammer and armoured and jaw
@@IGMEMEZ1100 Sure i can list a few things off the check list. Let's go. One. he can sense any weakness and has x-ray vision which he'll know that the titan's weakness is the nape. Two. Stated to be more powerful than any man made weapon which includes the tsar bomba in a remarkable consistent of few pages. Three. A colossal Titans explosion are much less powerful and impactful than little boy or fatman bombs. But in all honesty. It'll be a wonderful matchup if Yujiro was nerf in the what if battle.
@@Shorts-wb4hq you missed the point though, sure an atomic explosion is strong, but it doesnt have all its energy focused at one point, lets not forget that even tranquilizer darts pierced yujiros skin with ease, so the warhammer could LITERALLY just make any spiky item and hit him with it, the collosal could just step on him, because yujiro has never fought an animal that big before, the elephant wasnt even half the size of a colossal titan. keeping sharp objects in mind the jaw titans teeth: the jaw titans claws: , even then, if you think yujiro wins then its ok, but how do u think the rumbling vs yujiro would go tho?
@@IGMEMEZ1100 You forgot one character in baki. pickle. Who had Kill and eat dinosaur and specifically kill and outstrength the Baki version of the Argentinasaurus as it is stated that it was 'LIKE A MOUNTAIN SIZE' and pickle had outstrength it like it was nothing. And Yujiro is much STRONGER than pickle in every way, so fighting a large creature like the colossal titan wouldn't be a surprise. And explosion radius? Had you seen young Yujiro in the Vietnam scene? He had tanked a large sum of TNT that was to sum it up, more powerful then the colossal explosion. And to answer your questions on how he'll went against the rumble? He can easily sense killer miles away from Baki. so in this battle, He can just sense erens killer intent and break him.
dawg... toji is a master at martial art in hand to hand and weaponry combat. not to mention he was capable of putting gojo down by completely erasing his presence. baki wont even know he got hit.
Dude so is Baki he mastered every martial art just like his dad and toji fought a young gojo let’s see him fight a adult gojo now and see how it goes he would get destroyed and for erasing his presence Baki can do that to watch the anime it’s nice
Toji is just hard to track for the six eyes cause he tracks cursed energy imagine if you were using a metal detector to find Pinocchio as toji you obviously wouldnt be able to track him and ESPECIALLY if he just placed a bunch of metal pipes all around you making the detector pretty much useless
Bro completely forgot to mention that toji isnt just "fast" or "strong" his heavenly restriction makes him superhuman, baki goes beyond peak human, especially with the roach tackle's acceleration, but the narrative of their feats in baki really don't compare to what we see toji do in jjk, there is an argument for baki surpassing tojis speed during roach tackle acceleration, but toji consistently moves so extremely fast, he is able to avoid gojos cursed energy attacks, and completely speed blitz a retreating megumi with ease, if we are being totally honest, baki would not be able to do half the things toji does in jjk, for example if megumi summoned his rabbits against baki as an escape tactic, there is 0 chance baki is reacting and oppressing the technique with raw power and speed the same way toji did. Arguing baki is comparable to his father to argue he can compete with tojis consistent speed and power is disingenuous as burst speed is not the same as general speed, baki isnt nearly as fast as toji in a constant scenario and theres likely a chance toji could even dodge or directly tank roach tackle, stay away from power scaling bro cuz u did not properly analyze the characters, your lack of narrative awareness makes it seem like u didn't even watch these animes.
It's crazy that you bring up narrative speed into this considering we have an exact number for toji speed given to us narratively. It's below mach 3 it's so below mach 3 that it's even implied he won't be able to perceive something moving at mach 3 considering his narrative equal aka maki wasn't able to. Now let's see Baki or no let's see Katsumi who is widely regarded as fodder in the maximum tournament from the 90's series of Baki we were verbatim told that he is several times faster than sound with his basic mach punch and he only became faster and faster until in his last appearance we saw him create his hittles blow that was verbatim stated to be 1000miles per minute or even faster depending on which translation is correct with this one being the slowest making Katsumi narratively at least casually hundreds of times faster than peak toji.
@nonamepetko maki is not tojis narrative equal, you're downplaying toji scaling a literal self destruct attack to claim baki is stronger. NARRATIVELY, baki was trapped in metal thumbcuffs💀
@@gabrielbro8083 the narrator quite literally calls her tojis equal. Baki was staying in said handcuffs on purpose. It was quite literally shown he can escape whenever he wanted to. NARRATIVELY he can casually create city wide earthquakes. We also straight up see Yujiro and his father surviving hundreds of tons of missiles without sustaining a scratch of damage. Toji would never.
@nonamepetko when did baki create an earthquake?? Yujiro did that, not baki. And baki NARRATIVELY did not ever directly tank a missle, reference a chapter if ur gonna make bold claims like this. The article claiming tojis speed is mediocre that most people attempt to reference to down play him was made by fuckin game rant
@@gabrielbro8083 .... Have you read either series? Yujiro STOPPED an earthquake, Baki created one while training for his fight with his father. The hell are you talking about an article? I've never mentioned an article I've mentioned only verbatim statements from the jjk manga. I ain't tryna go through hundreds of chapters to find at which chapters the missile feats happen, it was Yujiro and yujiros father that have those feats not Baki. But I found them once and I screenshot the feats because people pretending to read the series always try to deny their existence if you wanna see them give me a disc.
So, Toji is immune to the auto hit effect of domains not the domains themselves. He's still got to dodge or block the attack somehow. Though certain domains don't necessarily work because they rely solely upon that instant hit effect. A good example of this is that Gojo's domain probably wouldn't work at all while Sukuna's domain could still hit Toji if he wasn't able to dodge or defend.
even though I have PHD degree in Baki Franchise, I will still declare Itadori from Jujutsu Kaisen Easily Deletes Baki verse 🥴 These yappers really loves to ride their favourite verse instead of seeing how strong other verse is
Wait baki can see cursed spirit ? Well all baki characters live on is plot so hypothetical even someone from sailor moon can beat them . Like literally
Toji wasn't even in his prime when he killed Gojo and Geto he himself admitted he was rusty. We technically have never seen him in his prime not to mention his katana which would bypass Baki's durability and slice his soul and Yujiro wouldnt survive a nuke he was literally taken out by tranquelizers 💀
His ''prime'' would be when he was against Dagon, he was giving everything just to kill him, and didn't even sweat while doing it, and for Yujiro... it was because not even his author knew how to stop him
@@Jayman1305 he wasn't giving everything to kill Dagon. He was no diffing him and just having fun mocking Dagon and messing him up and everything he threw at him. I don't rly count that as a prime toji cos technically that Toji is mindless but a prime toji is a rly good strategist and very smart with how he fights while the one that fought Dagon was pure instinct. Also Yujiro was literally stopped by tranquilizer darts so he's Def not unstoppable
It doesn't matter the tranqs are a plot hole he's quite literally even supposed to be immune to them by default due to hanma blood. We've seen him and his father casually tank hundreds of not thousands of tons of missiles without sustaining any injuries. The tranqs penetrating deep enough in the first place is bullshit @@chrisdudedurian1305
Toji would scale to Dagon regardless of having CE because he overpowered his reinforcement with his weapons. Neither scales to anyone's domain because they use much more energy than all their other attacks, hence why most can only use their domain once per day. Maki and Takaba reacting to Nue's lightning is like supersonic since it came from THE SKY specifically calced at 200 smth metres with Maki's movement's being put at 0.6 m iirc. 200 ÷ 440,000 m/s = 0.0004545 s. 0.6 ÷ 0.0004545 s = 1,320 m/s or a bit below Mach 4. This has the same problem as the Hakari feat where Maki's movement is only shown after the bolt already hit, meaning she wouldn't have to scale to the timeframe. Toji never 'perception blitzed' Nue's lightning in the anime, and I don't know how you can perception blitz lightning and not be lightning speed. He moved his neck a tiny bit while Nue's lightning travels across the room scaling his speed below Nue's lightning which I'm not sure if there's any calcs for to scale its energy to be lightning speed especially considering this Megumi is greatly fatigued. The finger bearer feat is city block.
@@aguywithalotofopinions412 the feat and statement he'd shown is right but the pickles surviving the direct impact of the meteor was literally a misstranslation and his choice of words is questionable 💀
I mean I love them both in terms of oberall it's a fight to death after all. Baki wouldn't stand a chance. Toji is Batman on steroids he will do dirty tricks like kidnapping bakis girlfriend and a lot of shit in order to win. So YOU ARE 100% WRONG.
So this meteor feat rly doesn't hold any cause we se that frozen with Pickle is a T-Rex mid attack without any signs of dmg, so unless u argue that this was in fact an over chad Rex its fair to asume that they were fighting in a place that was somehow protected from the impact.
Didn't toji literally kill the strongest sorcerer (before awakening) without any trouble so I think if u give toji prep he wins prolly but without that he loses
Gojo and sukuna demoloting entire city blocks and yuji kicks off a building demolishing it. Toji is faster and physically stronger than all of them xd. Baki glaze is crazy
Doesn't Toji possess the Soul split katana, which ignores durability because it attacks the soul rather than the body. Soul split katana was able to easily cut through Sukuna, who has similar stats as Gojo and Gojo took the full blunt of Malevolent Shrine and it wasn't able to cut through him.
If you give a sloth a blade and tell it to cut a monkey, yeah that sloth isnt landing anything on that monkey. Same kinda speed gap between Toji and Baki
I mean just read the early days of Baki and some of the lower top 5 like Gaia and retsu can be a challenger and an equal to Toji due to their overshadowed insane feat in early Baki the grappler.
@@cornsonyt insane power but anyone below who i have mention will probably get send to the pearly gate by toji. So he is still not a fraud in the verse.
Why not? Yujiro is consistently stated to be stronger than the any weapon and the whole U.S.A itself, even prior to the fight the defense minister of Japan said that Baki vs Yujiro is similar to that of 2 nations fighting. Litteraly even Obama himself was told that the power of Yujiro exceeds that of a nuclear bomb and keep in mind this is base yujiro who constantly growing in power. Pretty much since baki was able to tank hits from a demon back yujiro hundreds of times without dying he should scale to this.
Statements, Gojo got glazed from season one to be invincible but that was not true we haven’t actually seen this so it should not count as a factual feat of strength
@@iprince7934so you are telling me, yujiro punches are essentially nuclear explosions however caused no collateral damage nor internal damage and baki took more damage from people weaker than yujiro with less attacks and falling from a 40meter drp was more deadlier to him than a nuclear explosion. Yeahhh right
Well in your logic. The battle Beruus and Goku would have destroyed universe, your logic is flawed. It just mean that his fist can destroy So many things that cannot tank a nuke..its so easy to understand💀
@@nigersaurusrex de·feat verb gerund or present participle: defeating win a victory over (someone) in a battle or other contest; overcome or beat. no, there isn’t
If Toji can damage people with MT or CT level Durability that still count as his AP but if those guys dont have that level but a glass Cannon instead that still not count It simple as that
Baki feats aren’t even consistent. It’s the type of series that’ll say someone can tank a missile then get injured by a magnum. I’m so over how everyone scales these characters strength saying they can beat anyone who realistically will SOLO the verse. The author doesn’t even have their mind made up on how strong they want the characters to be, I think that’s just bad writing or an ignorance to what some feats actually measure up to
Baki can't lift over 100 tons which mahoraga lifted way more against a 15 finger sukuna who wasn't trying that much and awakened maki can keep up with sukuna which means toji scales to 15 finger sukuna baki is not winning toji literally kicks trucks like a soxcer ball😭
@@llawliet5767 sorry but have you seen how fast baki is, toji just uses strength,speed and other stuff, while baki uses techniques+knows all martial arts. Im not a dick rider bitch,i also have a feeling toji wins the fight but if you just WATCHED baki you know its either gonna be a draw or baki wins and a mid chance toji wins
@@bubbainc-k6u baki literally beat monsters too, yujiro could easily tear the grade 4,3,2, and also maybe 1 and special grades easily. Baki fought against his father which means you are def wrong
@@Proooooud bruh we used common sense, A all might whose not even in his prime, punched a guy so hard it changed the weather, blew a whole city away, tf Yujiro gonna do to a guy with powers like that? 😭
Like Batman, Toji would use prep time to wear Baki down and assassinate him. Toji couldn’t beat Gojos high school level face on, so why would he attempt to with Baki?
@@Tunacaptor609 that's not a very hot take, jjk is a laughably weak verse and gojo's infinity is the only reason deku doesn't shit stomp everyone in the series at the same time
Toji who scales above Jogo and Dagon not scaling to Jogo or Dagon cause he has no CE is the stupidest thing I have ever heard ngl xd. I thought you were good at scaling man wth. I mean I have no problem with Town level JJK as domains being actual creation is iffy, but saying because Toji doesn't have CE he doesn't scale to them is just stupid... How do you explain him damaging them, or do they not scale to their own domain as well?
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i havent watched this sht but there is now way toji loses,pickle didnt survive the metiorite ,he was locked in a mountain of salt that preserved his (dead ) body
Btw jogo maximum metro isn’t city level it’s city block and sukuna fire arrow reaches large town arguably city
You forgot about the Naoya Mach 3 statements. Toji is only getting to mach 3 lol
Baki is on such a bullshit level of skill that this kinda reminds me of Toji vs Sakamoto in that the skill gap is just wayyyyyyyyy too much to overcome
doesnt matter, maki or toji would both neg baki badly
Bro didn't watch the vid
Baki ‘negs’ Toji and maki together.
@@Machiavelli2pc good joke
Sakamoto slaps toji in the butt no dd Toji has heavenly restriction thats the only reason he can go toe to toe with sakamoto but even if sakamoto would win against toji.
They're both Hercule victims
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@@Hayami-Masakimftl+++++++ feat 😂👌
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He wins while having beer with his other gods
@@Bugermanchi no not hercules or Heracles depending on they mythology
Hercule from dbz and dbs
For clarification Baki was never superior against Yujiro in that fight, Yujiro never had the intention of killing baki or even hurting him badly in the first place, until the fight went on Yujiro took him a little more seriously and even allowed baki to get decent hits on him. Not to mention Yujiro litteraly Knocked out Baki 2x without even trying, and littearly after the fight Baki was left very damaged with broken ribs, blown out ear drumbs, broken skull , internal bleeding etc. While Yujiro was left with no significant damage , and i know what your going to say but but Yujiro declared Baki the strongest, in context and in the fight he wasnt winning in anyway and the reason Yujiro declared him is cause prior to the match Baki wanted Yujiro to cook for him and Yujiro made up an imaginary meal for Baki at the end of the fight
to add onto this the fight was themed after a father son scuffle. it was no different then a kid showing his father the macaroni art he made.
Bakis girlfriend commented on why They kept going when Baki lost like 10x and they both just kept going at it stating she doesn’t understand.
Yujiro just has insane respect for baki because hes the only creature who doesnt die against Yujiro with one tap
@@xHollow. I mean, there was Musashi (who is still the closest character we've seen to Yujiro's lvl) but Motobe had to cuk us of that epic fight.
not hurting baki badly? mf brokes all of his bones and injured many organs
This isn't accurate either, after baki activated his demon back which he can't do at will which is the reason he had to take damage first, yujiro didn't hold back physically, he only didn't use his full arsenal of techniques.
Also by the end of the fight yujiro had used all his op techniques and only won because he had greater mastery over them than baki plus being physically stronger.
But to say yujiro was not going all out isn't accurate considering he had done much worse on baki on the past.
@@Dimitriterrorman I wonder why you ignored the context of this fight in the first place? Yujiro never intended to even fight baki that day, he just wanted a simple meal with Baki, Baki then persisted by acting rude to Yujiro then Yujiro states that he is disciplining his son, Yujiro never used his op attacks to its fullest lol, even Baki tells yujiro to go all out because his not hitting vital organs. Are you gonna forget Yujiro litteraly immobolized baki in one hand just to pat his head this is including demon back btw. Also the fact that Yujrio never genuinely got knocked out by Baki yet Yujiro knocked out Baki 2x shows how disengenous your being. And the undebunkable part is that when the fight ended Yujro left with no significant damage while Baki had broken bones, internal bleeding and busted ear drumbs
Baki: *Steals Toji's Soul Split Katana, the same way Toji stole Playful cloud from Maki*
Toji: Understandable have a great day! *Goes back home to take care of Megumi*
Or toji beats the dog shit out of baki and takes back his weapon 🤷.
@@Omniclad My dude, my guy I like Toji. He's my favorite JJK Character but trust me. Baki a whole different beast. Btw Baki's only weapon is Left Right Good Night.
@@vergilneedsmorepower473 Baki ain't beating toji, there's zero feat in baki verse that puts Baki above toni, there's only exaggerated statements for yujiro and the likes,the guy has never survived a nuke,the earth quake he stopped didn't destroy anything,it didn't even make a crack in the ground, pickle surviving an asteroid is also not true,the guy took zero damage from the asteroid and he has a huge as scar from a dinosaur bite,Baki is only about Mach speeds in the double digits,toji is lightning speed and is in the ranges of disaster curses who are at least town level,combined with his weapons toji wrecks.
@@Omnicladjust say you didn’t read Baki or watch it Yujiro literally dodged and tanked lightning
@@Omnicladnigga said lightning speed like that still isn’t in mac speeds
I love it when scale actually matters in versus battles since most of the time they are either overshadowed buy a massive stat difference or hax.
Fr, the most braindead powescaling debate is when they argue that a MFTL character cant beat a sound speed character bc he got some cool hax, even if he cant react
Yea i lose braincells when i see@@marcoantonioveganatividad
@@marcoantonioveganatividad so you are saying toji is mftl and baki character are only sub sonic bro is official jjk meat rider
@@DhruvchandraChandrq I was talking about Baki characters (ignoring the fact that the author sometimes forget how fast the characters are and write stuff like the sound fist from Katsumi), also tbh saying MFTL was assuming that the video was right bc tbh i don't see baki characters moving that fast but yeah, Idk why did you understood that i was glazzing jjk when I never said jjk
@@marcoantonioveganatividad sorry
Toji: I fought someone with the power of infinity. What makes you think you can stand up against me?
Baki: *cue Spongebob Imagination gif*
Bro forgot the narrator would cook Toji first
I think it might end up on baki pissing on toji with soulful ahh beat playing in the background
Can baki throw a truck, can baki jump to top of buildings dose baki destroy buildings while fighting
While I see your point, he kinda has been thrown from the top floor of a building directly into a car and came out mostly unscathed @@akaza_uppermoon_3417
@@akaza_uppermoon_3417Yes, but not to the last one
Request: red hair garou vs mahoraga
Unfortunately, he doesn’t have any real way to completely exorcise Mahoraga in that form and would lose eventually, despite the speed and power gap.
@@revenantronin8377they prob gonna use verse equalization idk prob garou gonna have heavenly rizztriction or shit like that
@revenantronin8377 you can't do a cross verse battle and then say this person lose because they don't have the power system from the other verse
@@revenantronin8377i chose this match up because it basically a repeat of garou vs orochi since garou adapts pretty fast i think he can take the win
@@NicoThefourth That's not what I'm saying.
I even emphasised "in that form" specifically the Red hair Garou form.
Stronger forms can in fact exorcise Mahoraga.
Oh, I see what happened lol. By exorcise I mean kill/destroy.
This version of Garou doesn't have any technique that can destroy the body of his opponent on a cellular level, and Mahoraga can regenerate on that level while gradually adapting to Garou. The speed and power gap is honestly not that wide.
Baki is gonna make toji pay child support 💀
nah
what if baki blocks soul sword than he's cooked
look at baki vs kegenashan we can see can get move easily blocked or counter in the air if you look baki gets cooked and falls back for 7 seconds
@@Chopper-4m baki vs kengan ashura isn't cannon and the characters of the two series are equalised to make cool fights
@@Chopper-4m baki didn't block the sword of musashi why would he block the soul splitter katana when he can perfectly understand his opponents ability instantly?
3:51 Oliva didn't shake the Earth, he just messed with the satellites that were tracking him by going above a certain speed.
I don’t think Baki beat yujiro lol like even Baki didn’t look at it as a win when the next arc came so it’s kinda weird saying Baki beat yujiro as a feat when it’s not that clear of an answer. To me Baki just did way better than last time especially with the mental games he was playing with yujiro
Yea, Baki didn’t beat Yujiro in a physical fight, he was only considered the winner because he was able to make Yujiro think that the food that Baki created out of his imagination was real. Baki stills scales somewhat to Yujiro though.
The whole point of the fight is suppose to be a father son scuffle. no different then a Father letting his son show him his macaroni art he made.
Thats the writing of it.
Yujiro held back a lot it isnt even funny. Bakis girlfriend commented mid fight why keep going when you Hold back here and there. Yujiro smiled and kept fighting like the demon he is
Yujiro could have ended the fight numerous of times but didnt. Yujiro straight up whooped baki Low diff but had respect because he was probably the only one that could genuinely take a beating from Him without dying on the first blow
@@xHollow. dude, he literally used Demon back which is a 10x power boost.
Base Yujiro is where most of the feats mentioned in this video come from, the instinctive lighting reaction speed, the casual earthquake stopping punch etc.
So the fact that Baki could clash with and withstand hits from Base Yujiro (mind you, a Yujiro using techniques) and push him into his demon back form, even if he did that just out of respect, Baki would still be relative to Yujiro regardless.
So even if you think it’s a low diff or whatever, it doesn’t change a thing in this match up as both Yujiro and Baki simply outscale the feats shown from the past. Especially since Yujiro grows stronger with each passing day, just naturally, so much so that Yujiro of today would beat Yujiro of yesterday.
So Baki showing relativity to even base Yujiro at that point means both him and Yujiro would defeat the past Yujiro who stopped an earthquake.
Like I said, low diff or whatever, it’s completely irrelevant to Baki’s scaling.
@@revenantronin8377 well said
Baki knocked out Yujiro once and forced Yujiro to rely on raw physical stats rather than martial arts in order to get out of his submission hold which was a fight ending move. In terms of pure martial arts skill, Baki was superior to that version of Yujiro
And Baki was also faster than Yujiro as well, especially highlighted when Yujiro used his fathers tech and Baki was fast enough to make a toy out of the car parts he was being smashed into while Yujiro never saw or perceived it, and in general Baki was shown to be faster than Yujiro
Yujiro has the raw strength and durability advantage but definitely scales
Funny thing about Toji is apparently he's at full strength during Shibuya due to the name used to reanimate him, "Toji Zen'in" and seeing how a 15 finger Sukuna did Jogo, it makes sense a full power (non mental nerfed) Toji is manhandling Dagon, what is really interesting is that with all his tools, could he actually beat current Sukuna if it was in a 3v1 with Maki and Yuji? 🤔
Like what is Toji gonna do when Baki hits him with the infamous nutshot, as Retsu said, no amount of training can increase the durability of your balls
toji is faster. and can one shot with inverted spear
@@yazzy3177 Baki would swiftly disarm him and use any of his weapons better than Toji ever could tbh.
@@k1ngtobi ok what about toji backing out a glock :D
@@yazzy3177 "Really? You might as well mail him the bullets"
@@yazzy3177Baki is MANY MANY MANY times faster in both movement and martial art sense.
4:30 i disagree, instincts are the most pure and raw form or reaction speed. Instincts should be the fastest form of fighting/ dodging, not to say he 100% maxed out on instinct to dodge.
Getting folded by Baki is honestly crazy
he does tho
Its not that crazy, baki is just that guy
@@cheesist6998 He is indeed that Guy to get 1-shot all the time in his own series.
@@Super-Saiyan-Blue-Gogeta keisuke hates giving Baki the upper hand all the time, but he went toe to toe with Yujiro nonetheless, and Yujiro is no joke
@@cheesist6998 He did not. Yujiro wasn't going near full power in that fight and it often wasn't referred to as a fight.
We also see Baki get bodied by Musashi later on with just his mind slashes, while the same did not work on Yujiro.
I'm confused, it was stated that Shibuya arc Toji aka puppet Toji was the prime strength version of Toji
Considering the insane feat in the early days of Baki that is heavily overshadowed by newer Baki fans who only watched the two main season of Baki and not even the old Baki anime. Baki would have already won before he could even let Toji use his full capacity of his Arsenal.
I do agree that Baki slams
But do realize that the toji in hidden inventory is not his prime, if anything he’s physically stronger in Shibuya just without his weapons, tojis prime was before he met his wife and had Megumi which that version should be on par with his Shibuya version just with all his weapons so
Hidden inventory toji < shibuya toji < prime toji
FINALLY! Someone is glazing the Baki verse
Its not glazing💀 every insane casual and upper high end feat in early Baki and modern Baki is very straightforward and blunt about it. It's how itagaki showcase the feat in a simple way that doesnt require Jimmy neutron brain power.
Imagine if toji had his heavenly restriction but he had the same power as yujiro, that combination would be a fucking walking man slaughter.
So with this are you basically saying that Baki could defeat and speed blitz Dagon..? Or that he would be able to defeat Young Gojo, or even able to stand a fight against Young Geto?
Toji couldn’t even beat young gojo before he was awakened, he had to wait days for gojo to be tired and restless and needed prep-time.
And Geto is arguably the weakest special grade in all of jjk, handling him isn’t even a flex
@@ejgamingv7297 Ik, but he also wasn't on his prime, wich means he wasn't going on full potential, wich is totally different from what we saw on the Dagon fight, and Geto is not that weak too, compared to Gojo of course he is, but it's confirmed by Kenjaku himself, that if Geto hadn't spreaded his curses around Tokyo, he would have won against Yuta.
And getting again to the point where this guy compared Baki and Toji, unless Baki is able to totally destroy Dagon in a 1v1, fight against Young Gojo (weakened), or even fight against every single one of the Zenin Clan (wich is kinda confirmed that Toji could kill them all if he wanted), Toji solos him
@@Jayman1305Dagon is the weakest disaster curse and is on the level of 2 finger Sukuna whilst Toji in his prime is equivalent to 5 finger Sukuna. He only beat Gojo before the awakening due to the fact that he wasn’t able to be sensed and Geto honestly should be given the rank first grade instead of special grade as he has zero feats whatsoever. Toji, even in his prime is not that strong of a character and despite what you Toji glazers wanna believe he’d easily be one shot by Jogo and Mahito, Jogo via his domain’s passive and Mahito simply by outsmarting Toji. Due to the fact that Baki characters are literally unaffected by every weapon in existence besides human fists for some reason I can see Baki being able to defeat a guy who relies solely on weapons and presumably knows next to zero martial arts based on us only ever seeing him do a spin kick, poorly formed punches, and a basic series of blocks the two latter only being effective due to his speed advantage on his opponents and his opponents being 15 year old children. Mind you, that speed advantage he had is irrelevant as Baki characters have done punches and blocks at the same speed if not faster.
Toji beat unawakened Teen Gojo because of the Inverted Spear of Heaven.
As for the other two. Yeah, literally, yes he'd beat them, did you watch the video? Dagon could win with his domain, so that one is questionable but he does solo him if he doesn't open it (prob doesn't have the time to, before getting speed blitzed and beaten). And Young Geto is just kinda ass, idk what to tell you.
Baki would be missing one of his most op abilities if you use baki from before the musashi arc as he learned to read the mind waves of his opponent being able to predict his opponents move before his opponents are ready to act on them
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Hey Ty this is a great video and is so far the only thing on YT that comes close to accurately depicting how strong Baki is in a verse related battle.
This video could have been half and hour or so longer diving into all the different attacks Baki could fold Toji with.
But in my humble opinion if I were to debate and explain it. I would just Bakis goto punch, The Jab destroys Toji. Bakis Jab is incredibly OP. First its outright stated and explained to be literally faster than the speed of light and the regular jab for human beings alloes them to perform feats of speed otherwise normally incable of. This is consistent in the first time the jab is ever mentioned and when its explained by Yujiro in Dou.
Secondly the Jab can instantly knockout and opponent irregardless of durabiliy. The jab causes movememts in characters brains that forces people to become unconscious due to the sheer amount of brain movements happening in the head.
Thirdly Baki characters have some minor soul hax. When a Baki character is knocked out their soul is quite literally stated and or seen visibly leaving their bodies for a moment "becoming lost" in a sense. Before eventually finding their way back to their bodies when they regain consciousness. This is supoorted by the fact removing Musashis soul permanently from his body is how he was able to die again, the fact Bakis soul has continued to persist fighting Yujiro beyond death although this did no damage including the fact Yuichiro resummoned himself through his own soul back from the dead, and by the fact Katsumi knocked out a sumo wrestlers soul from his body very briefly. So unless a character has a specific resistance to this hax or has a resistance to their soul being moved outside their own body, they would be instantly KOd unable to wake back up if their durability isnt high enough or abnormal enough. Only character that could honestly resist this is Sukuna in JJK.
And lastly Baki can combine all of these aspects with another technique called the 0.5 second punch. Which enables him to have a level of precognition/mind reading to attack Toji during the gap in time his body would be capable of carrying out the thought to perfom an action and perfoming that action.
Baki with his jab alone one shots Toji faster than the speed of light. How fast? Well theres a statement of Musashi in Dou of him moving in 0.0000... and theres like 10 or 12 0s mentioned specifically. So that would be MFTL at the absolute highest end since Baki has blitzed him with the same jab moving at that speed and Musashi was only able to then react by essentially precoging Baki. And if he felt like killing him he could just stomp him out or choke him out while hes unconscious and without a soul in his body.
Can u make a video about...
What if baki characters get access to cursed energy?
he would be on sukuna level or even higher he would hit black flashes like it's nothing
@@javaughnfletcher6574 he's already above sukuna level
Now just imagine if Baki narrator was there
pretty realistic
personally, i feel like people still underestimate toji, he's more than capable, tho im not sure how well he'd do against any other characters, i do feel like people still ignore his capabilities, might be cause we haven't seen much of him, as he only lasted for a few episodes on screen lol
- 3:41 problem is no Baki character has survived a nuke, the closest to it is Yuichiro (Yujiro's dad) who they considered nuking but it was called off. Government officials also weigh the possibilty of Yujiro being nuked could very well work, but they don't wanna to try since Yujiro is always close to civilians and they don't wanna kill millions of people in the process, thus why they think he'd have to be in the middle of the Sahara desert for it to be a viable strategy.
- 3:47 The asteroid never actually hit Pickle. Chicxulub crashed into the Gulf of Mexico, Pickle was frozen in Colorado. And Oliva absolutely did not shake the planet. And even if Pickle and Oliva did this, the city-mountain level scaling would be extremely inaccurate.
- 4:15 Katsumi's Mach Punch and more importantly his Hitless Blow is a whiplash effect. It isn't launched at Mach 78 nor does it travel at that speed. It only reaches those ridiculous speeds the moment before impact. So it would be disingenuous and ignore the actuaal technique to say Baki and Yujiro can hust fight at this speeds normally. Yujiro blitzing the cops was only called at Supersonic+ and he still as never actually dodged lightning. It's only someone talking about him in a hypothetical scenario, he has yet to prove he's this fast. Baki's speed is crippled by the fact that he scales to Yujiro, who could not intercept or react to Baki's 0.5 Second Unconscious Jab, a punch that happens within the span of just half a second. As well as the fact that his Cockroach Tackle, arguably his greatest technique has a canon speed of only 168 mph.
This match is literally Baki vs a considerably faster Yujiro, aka Toji.
One. it is stated And even numerous times In different way That Yujiro was Above any MANMADE weapon and weapons The likes Of nuclear bomb with CONSISTENCY and it was stated that He surpassed every current and past fighter that includes HIS OWN FATHER yuichiro. And even if Yujiro was on the Sahara desert and alone and the bomb dropped on him, It was Only a POSSIBILITY that it MIGHT work. It was clear they were hesitant about the idea.
And your forgetting the fact that Yujiro stopped an earthquick that is high end town level of strength, which is already crazy for the majority of jjk character.
And It was even stated by the president of Obama that Yujiro's fist was more powerful than a nuclear bomb, and its probably not an overstatement since the earthquake feat was his early days and it was stated by general strydum that his growth in strength was Very fast every day.
@@Shorts-wb4hq doesn't matter since his feats and antifeats disapprove those statements. Feats holds presidence over empty statements. Even the earthquake being in the high-end town level of feats is a very generous statement and is very likely an outlier. As that isn't even close to the levels of power output by stuff like the Tsar Bomba. Consistantly Yujiro is comfortably multi-cityblock level.
Obama also isn't a reliable source since this is the first time he's meeting Yujiro. He has never seen him fight or done a deep-dive into Yujiro's capabilities.
@@Pickle6432 uh huh...As you forgot the fact of Itagaki's words and A considerably Consistent Statement Of Him being Above Any Military Arsenal is literally a fact that every Panel mentioning his Status of Power. Since He was always being watched By the Satellite. 💀 I firmly believes that Obama knew his power.
@@Shorts-wb4hq yeah but he has to actually show that. That's like Homelander threatening Maeve that if she releases the airplane video he will "destroy everything" that doesn't make him planet level or whatever. Also the fact that they consider nuking him in the middle of the desert as a *possible* option means the statements aren't concrete. If Itagaki really wanted to showcase how superior to modern weapons the Hanmas are, then why not have Yuichiro survive the atomic bomb intially purposed to be used as a last measure against him.
now we need a what if baki had tojis arsenal to his disposal
Fun video idea could Toji hunt Fuko and Andy from Undead Unluck? I think the manga version of the two have it personally
3:52 Calcs say small country level
Him: city level
It's crazy how baki is so crazy he started tp be compared to sum lower anime with actual super powers
try gon vs yuji next, opinions are all over the place on yt.
now do all the nine titan shifters vs yujiro one by one
I...why?💀 Nine giant coughing baby vs An atomic bomb
@@Shorts-wb4hq no, lol, yujiro arguably loses to one colossal titan, the pure strength behind the titans would literally just kill yujiro, especially the Warhammer and armoured and jaw
@@IGMEMEZ1100 Sure i can list a few things off the check list. Let's go.
One. he can sense any weakness and has x-ray vision which he'll know that the titan's weakness is the nape.
Two. Stated to be more powerful than any man made weapon which includes the tsar bomba in a remarkable consistent of few pages.
Three. A colossal Titans explosion are much less powerful and impactful than little boy or fatman bombs.
But in all honesty. It'll be a wonderful matchup if Yujiro was nerf in the what if battle.
@@Shorts-wb4hq you missed the point though, sure an atomic explosion is strong, but it doesnt have all its energy focused at one point, lets not forget that even tranquilizer darts pierced yujiros skin with ease, so the warhammer could LITERALLY just make any spiky item and hit him with it, the collosal could just step on him, because yujiro has never fought an animal that big before, the elephant wasnt even half the size of a colossal titan. keeping sharp objects in mind the jaw titans teeth: the jaw titans claws: , even then, if you think yujiro wins then its ok, but how do u think the rumbling vs yujiro would go tho?
@@IGMEMEZ1100 You forgot one character in baki. pickle. Who had Kill and eat dinosaur and specifically kill and outstrength the Baki version of the Argentinasaurus as it is stated that it was 'LIKE A MOUNTAIN SIZE' and pickle had outstrength it like it was nothing. And Yujiro is much STRONGER than pickle in every way, so fighting a large creature like the colossal titan wouldn't be a surprise. And explosion radius? Had you seen young Yujiro in the Vietnam scene? He had tanked a large sum of TNT that was to sum it up, more powerful then the colossal explosion.
And to answer your questions on how he'll went against the rumble? He can easily sense killer miles away from Baki. so in this battle, He can just sense erens killer intent and break him.
dawg... toji is a master at martial art in hand to hand and weaponry combat.
not to mention he was capable of putting gojo down by completely erasing his presence. baki wont even know he got hit.
Dude so is Baki he mastered every martial art just like his dad and toji fought a young gojo let’s see him fight a adult gojo now and see how it goes he would get destroyed and for erasing his presence Baki can do that to watch the anime it’s nice
Toji is just hard to track for the six eyes cause he tracks cursed energy imagine if you were using a metal detector to find Pinocchio as toji you obviously wouldnt be able to track him and ESPECIALLY if he just placed a bunch of metal pipes all around you making the detector pretty much useless
There is one chapter when baki moves too fast that he becomes invisible to random people only leaving his feet visible
Bro completely forgot to mention that toji isnt just "fast" or "strong" his heavenly restriction makes him superhuman, baki goes beyond peak human, especially with the roach tackle's acceleration, but the narrative of their feats in baki really don't compare to what we see toji do in jjk, there is an argument for baki surpassing tojis speed during roach tackle acceleration, but toji consistently moves so extremely fast, he is able to avoid gojos cursed energy attacks, and completely speed blitz a retreating megumi with ease, if we are being totally honest, baki would not be able to do half the things toji does in jjk, for example if megumi summoned his rabbits against baki as an escape tactic, there is 0 chance baki is reacting and oppressing the technique with raw power and speed the same way toji did. Arguing baki is comparable to his father to argue he can compete with tojis consistent speed and power is disingenuous as burst speed is not the same as general speed, baki isnt nearly as fast as toji in a constant scenario and theres likely a chance toji could even dodge or directly tank roach tackle, stay away from power scaling bro cuz u did not properly analyze the characters, your lack of narrative awareness makes it seem like u didn't even watch these animes.
It's crazy that you bring up narrative speed into this considering we have an exact number for toji speed given to us narratively. It's below mach 3 it's so below mach 3 that it's even implied he won't be able to perceive something moving at mach 3 considering his narrative equal aka maki wasn't able to.
Now let's see Baki or no let's see Katsumi who is widely regarded as fodder in the maximum tournament from the 90's series of Baki we were verbatim told that he is several times faster than sound with his basic mach punch and he only became faster and faster until in his last appearance we saw him create his hittles blow that was verbatim stated to be 1000miles per minute or even faster depending on which translation is correct with this one being the slowest making Katsumi narratively at least casually hundreds of times faster than peak toji.
@nonamepetko maki is not tojis narrative equal, you're downplaying toji scaling a literal self destruct attack to claim baki is stronger. NARRATIVELY, baki was trapped in metal thumbcuffs💀
@@gabrielbro8083 the narrator quite literally calls her tojis equal. Baki was staying in said handcuffs on purpose. It was quite literally shown he can escape whenever he wanted to.
NARRATIVELY he can casually create city wide earthquakes. We also straight up see Yujiro and his father surviving hundreds of tons of missiles without sustaining a scratch of damage. Toji would never.
@nonamepetko when did baki create an earthquake?? Yujiro did that, not baki. And baki NARRATIVELY did not ever directly tank a missle, reference a chapter if ur gonna make bold claims like this. The article claiming tojis speed is mediocre that most people attempt to reference to down play him was made by fuckin game rant
@@gabrielbro8083 .... Have you read either series? Yujiro STOPPED an earthquake, Baki created one while training for his fight with his father.
The hell are you talking about an article? I've never mentioned an article I've mentioned only verbatim statements from the jjk manga.
I ain't tryna go through hundreds of chapters to find at which chapters the missile feats happen, it was Yujiro and yujiros father that have those feats not Baki. But I found them once and I screenshot the feats because people pretending to read the series always try to deny their existence if you wanna see them give me a disc.
So, Toji is immune to the auto hit effect of domains not the domains themselves. He's still got to dodge or block the attack somehow. Though certain domains don't necessarily work because they rely solely upon that instant hit effect. A good example of this is that Gojo's domain probably wouldn't work at all while Sukuna's domain could still hit Toji if he wasn't able to dodge or defend.
Baki folds him badly 😭
Keep coping lil bro
@@Jackson-l1f You’re the only one crying
Toji lucky it’s only baki and not musashi 💀
Having a close fight with a Baki character is insane. Midjutsu Cry-sen go crazy
@@Asmokedetectordon't forget baki is still a kengan ashura victim.
even though I have PHD degree in Baki Franchise, I will still declare Itadori from Jujutsu Kaisen Easily Deletes Baki verse 🥴
These yappers really loves to ride their favourite verse instead of seeing how strong other verse is
didn't expect to see u here
You also love to just yap, do you have a phd in this as well?
@@Tylearnedimagine being mad for being wrong
@@LmaoFxckyouPlenty Lmao, Baki folds bro and tells him to pay child support
Nah baki gotta go against that one bald guy and the overly hungry mf who becomes blonde when powering up
The speed feat from Baki was a mistranslation just want to let you know
Only the miles per minute one
where can I find a baki character being faster than light? I have not seen any panel with it.
I am really asking, I have not seen all baki's episodes
No Baki characters come closer to light speed, let alone surpass it. The same applies to JJ characters.
Nothing but his bare hands? Toji used cursed objects 😭
Wait baki can see cursed spirit ? Well all baki characters live on is plot so hypothetical even someone from sailor moon can beat them . Like literally
Toji wasn't even in his prime when he killed Gojo and Geto he himself admitted he was rusty. We technically have never seen him in his prime not to mention his katana which would bypass Baki's durability and slice his soul and Yujiro wouldnt survive a nuke he was literally taken out by tranquelizers 💀
His ''prime'' would be when he was against Dagon, he was giving everything just to kill him, and didn't even sweat while doing it, and for Yujiro... it was because not even his author knew how to stop him
@@Jayman1305 he wasn't giving everything to kill Dagon. He was no diffing him and just having fun mocking Dagon and messing him up and everything he threw at him. I don't rly count that as a prime toji cos technically that Toji is mindless but a prime toji is a rly good strategist and very smart with how he fights while the one that fought Dagon was pure instinct. Also Yujiro was literally stopped by tranquilizer darts so he's Def not unstoppable
@@chrisdudedurian1305 he’s saying Dagon was giving everything to kill Toji I think
@@aaronjackson2720 ohhhh okok that makes more sense lol. And Jogo hiding behind a pillar waiting until Toji left the room lmfao
It doesn't matter the tranqs are a plot hole he's quite literally even supposed to be immune to them by default due to hanma blood.
We've seen him and his father casually tank hundreds of not thousands of tons of missiles without sustaining any injuries. The tranqs penetrating deep enough in the first place is bullshit @@chrisdudedurian1305
Toji would scale to Dagon regardless of having CE because he overpowered his reinforcement with his weapons. Neither scales to anyone's domain because they use much more energy than all their other attacks, hence why most can only use their domain once per day.
Maki and Takaba reacting to Nue's lightning is like supersonic since it came from THE SKY specifically calced at 200 smth metres with Maki's movement's being put at 0.6 m iirc. 200 ÷ 440,000 m/s = 0.0004545 s. 0.6 ÷ 0.0004545 s = 1,320 m/s or a bit below Mach 4. This has the same problem as the Hakari feat where Maki's movement is only shown after the bolt already hit, meaning she wouldn't have to scale to the timeframe.
Toji never 'perception blitzed' Nue's lightning in the anime, and I don't know how you can perception blitz lightning and not be lightning speed. He moved his neck a tiny bit while Nue's lightning travels across the room scaling his speed below Nue's lightning which I'm not sure if there's any calcs for to scale its energy to be lightning speed especially considering this Megumi is greatly fatigued.
The finger bearer feat is city block.
I think the scales of maki reacting to lightning from the sky is high hypersonic +
Hakari has another feat of moving his head away before the lightning hits and it hits his arm
@@equ-ipe6893 It's supersonic.
@@kakuzugoated873 That's the feat I'm on about.
@@kakuzugoated873in shibya toji literally sees nues lighting in slow motion
My guy, I appreciate the effort, but you cannot power-scale Baki
@@aguywithalotofopinions412 the feat and statement he'd shown is right but the pickles surviving the direct impact of the meteor was literally a misstranslation and his choice of words is questionable 💀
Thought this video was a troll but you are dead fr 😂
Bro you thinking that toji has chance against baki musashi states that baki has endless techniques in his arsenal stop riding toji meat 🤡
Jjk power scale is on a different level than Baki. Toji could probably solo most of if not all of the Baki verse low diff.
glazing
he's right tho
All
@@Toddlesand u glazing Baki glazer 🍩
Full power Sukuna and full power Gojo could probably do it, literally everyone else would either be extreme high diff or just not possible be fr now
I mean I love them both in terms of oberall it's a fight to death after all. Baki wouldn't stand a chance. Toji is Batman on steroids he will do dirty tricks like kidnapping bakis girlfriend and a lot of shit in order to win. So YOU ARE 100% WRONG.
You didn't elaborate at all
Also batman is millions of times better than toji are you on drugs?
@@salehtheIII there's no need more elaboration. Your braincells are already at their limit.
@@strongestninja8170 LMAO
So this meteor feat rly doesn't hold any cause we se that frozen with Pickle is a T-Rex mid attack without any signs of dmg, so unless u argue that this was in fact an over chad Rex its fair to asume that they were fighting in a place that was somehow protected from the impact.
Baki vs toji
(Before s2 in baki)
Winner toji
Baki vs toji
(After s2)
Easily BAKI
please do a baki verse vs jjk
@user-nf8id6di9b thats not the case if you know power scaling
@user-nf8id6di9bnothing
@user-nf8id6di9b Imaginary Technique: Hollow Soup
Weapons included toji may have a chance
Tylearned showed his "What if" ability for a moment there💀😭💀(Like he used to)
Didn't toji literally kill the strongest sorcerer (before awakening) without any trouble so I think if u give toji prep he wins prolly but without that he loses
Gojo and sukuna demoloting entire city blocks and yuji kicks off a building demolishing it. Toji is faster and physically stronger than all of them xd. Baki glaze is crazy
Doesn't Toji possess the Soul split katana, which ignores durability because it attacks the soul rather than the body.
Soul split katana was able to easily cut through Sukuna, who has similar stats as Gojo and Gojo took the full blunt of Malevolent Shrine and it wasn't able to cut through him.
How the hell is Toji going to land soul split on Baki when Baki’s speed is so much more massive than Toji’s 😹
If you give a sloth a blade and tell it to cut a monkey, yeah that sloth isnt landing anything on that monkey. Same kinda speed gap between Toji and Baki
@@-gj3nubaki isn't that fast 💀
@@jim5885toji is levels faster than baki😂😂😂
@@cmon9505I’m pretty sure toji is light speeds
Toji in the hidden inventory arc wasn’t in his prime he was in his like 40s and even he said he’s a lil rusty
as a jjk fan who was expecting toji to win, baki characters now scare me
I mean just read the early days of Baki and some of the lower top 5 like Gaia and retsu can be a challenger and an equal to Toji due to their overshadowed insane feat in early Baki the grappler.
@@Shorts-wb4hqno thanks I already respect them, so
@@cornsonyt insane power but anyone below who i have mention will probably get send to the pearly gate by toji. So he is still not a fraud in the verse.
I just don’t agree with Baki statements bc there’s not enf hard proof for it an to many anti feats
Why not? Yujiro is consistently stated to be stronger than the any weapon and the whole U.S.A itself, even prior to the fight the defense minister of Japan said that Baki vs Yujiro is similar to that of 2 nations fighting. Litteraly even Obama himself was told that the power of Yujiro exceeds that of a nuclear bomb and keep in mind this is base yujiro who constantly growing in power. Pretty much since baki was able to tank hits from a demon back yujiro hundreds of times without dying he should scale to this.
Statements, Gojo got glazed from season one to be invincible but that was not true we haven’t actually seen this so it should not count as a factual feat of strength
@@iprince7934so you are telling me, yujiro punches are essentially nuclear explosions however caused no collateral damage nor internal damage and baki took more damage from people weaker than yujiro with less attacks and falling from a 40meter drp was more deadlier to him than a nuclear explosion. Yeahhh right
@@MrSelioss or when Baki is fighting yujiro and uses his tackle that’s said to be 300 mph
Well in your logic. The battle Beruus and Goku would have destroyed universe, your logic is flawed. It just mean that his fist can destroy So many things that cannot tank a nuke..its so easy to understand💀
high sypersonic- low light speed character vs child with muscles ahh matchup
Didn’t know Baki was capable of taking someone out like Dagon since he’s stronger. This video is pure glaze I can’t even watch it no more 😂.
Yeah he beats Dagon
Baki 🍇 all special grades and mahoraga at once he will show them that he is a real demon not those femboys with blue hair
Ive seen nobody scale baki fairly, thank you
bro what are u smoking, how about baki vs goku next ? 😂
It's like Lex luthor went after the Hulk, it wouldn't last long given his equipment is not made for someone like him.
baki never defeated yujiro, yujiro just took pity on him
yujiro said he wins so he wins. you just don’t want him to
@@bestdemon7734 he won against yujiro but he never defeated yujiro, there's a difference between winning against someone and defeating someone
@@nigersaurusrex
de·feat
verb
gerund or present participle: defeating
win a victory over (someone) in a battle or other contest; overcome or beat.
no, there isn’t
@@bestdemon7734 it is in this case you redditor
Toji’s travel speed is double digit Mach, while baki is probably around mach 1 or lower from the info with the Oliver fight and future fights
wtf did you smoke 😭😭😭🐟🐟
The feats of pickle surviving the meteor and of the fight shaking the world are not real. They are mistranlations.
Pickle feat is island level because of location
If Toji can damage people with MT or CT level Durability that still count as his AP
but if those guys dont have that level but a glass Cannon instead that still not count
It simple as that
Baki feats aren’t even consistent. It’s the type of series that’ll say someone can tank a missile then get injured by a magnum. I’m so over how everyone scales these characters strength saying they can beat anyone who realistically will SOLO the verse. The author doesn’t even have their mind made up on how strong they want the characters to be, I think that’s just bad writing or an ignorance to what some feats actually measure up to
as a huge baki fan i thought toji would win but damn i didn't see this coming
4000 years Chinese martial arts got me
you should do batman vs yujiro or baki
Tyler can u make a vid on mahoraga vs usj nomu
Baki can't lift over 100 tons which mahoraga lifted way more against a 15 finger sukuna who wasn't trying that much and awakened maki can keep up with sukuna which means toji scales to 15 finger sukuna baki is not winning toji literally kicks trucks like a soxcer ball😭
On bro
And that truck was about 20K pounds💀💀💀
No going to lie current yuji solos the Baki verse since he is faster stronger than current maki and he cleave and dismantle
Maki ≥ toji they are both op in the same level
@@bread-number_2what are you smoking💀💀💀
3:01 “baki doesn’t have any sorcery”
Bro has not watched Baki.
The glazing on baki is insane💀
The glazing about toji is insane
@@Bingchillingp baki d riders using debunked feats and mistranslation to prove their point (even when it gets outright contradicted by the manga)
@@llawliet5767 sorry but have you seen how fast baki is, toji just uses strength,speed and other stuff, while baki uses techniques+knows all martial arts. Im not a dick rider bitch,i also have a feeling toji wins the fight but if you just WATCHED baki you know its either gonna be a draw or baki wins and a mid chance toji wins
Fr cuz ain’t no way Baki is able to beat a guy that fights and is able to beat monsters with powers
@@bubbainc-k6u baki literally beat monsters too, yujiro could easily tear the grade 4,3,2, and also maybe 1 and special grades easily. Baki fought against his father which means you are def wrong
Ngl im lazy as hell to see the video but wouldn’t the speed of toji have an advantage in battle?
Of course I’m fully seeing but I’m just saying
I haven't seen a single W for toji,give man's respect>:(
wow didnt realise baki verse was so strong
and people still say that allmight could beat yujiro 😭
All Might no diffs Yujiro , what the heck you smokin 💀
@@ranveer6049 delusional mha femboy
@@ranveer6049 No, you're wrong. All might lost his power so he would high diff Yujiro 🙃
@@ranveer6049 never read baki a day in your life
@@Proooooud bruh we used common sense, A all might whose not even in his prime, punched a guy so hard it changed the weather, blew a whole city away, tf Yujiro gonna do to a guy with powers like that? 😭
Like Batman, Toji would use prep time to wear Baki down and assassinate him. Toji couldn’t beat Gojos high school level face on, so why would he attempt to with Baki?
You're tiktok scaling is odd.
Deku vs Sukuna who wins
Deku
Hot take but honestly the only JJK character who can beat Deku is Gojo.
@@Tunacaptor609 that's not a very hot take, jjk is a laughably weak verse and gojo's infinity is the only reason deku doesn't shit stomp everyone in the series at the same time
Deku table flips the entire area of malevolent shrine out of orbit.
Probably Sukuna.
Toji solos bro stop 💀
The fact Baki can very well win this fight is how stupid the anime’s “martial arts” are😂
Bro do baki vs human garou becuase some TH-cam suck at it
I thought domains cannot effect
people that don't have curse energy
like toji and maki?
So does this mean Baki would survive in shibuya? If he could see curses that is
Gooning
Fn?
Nah cuz it’s crazy yall think this is legit☠️ yall believe anything on the internet huh
Bot account? Shame
Toji with prep time is basically batman but baki wins if there is no prep time
Toji who scales above Jogo and Dagon not scaling to Jogo or Dagon cause he has no CE is the stupidest thing I have ever heard ngl xd. I thought you were good at scaling man wth. I mean I have no problem with Town level JJK as domains being actual creation is iffy, but saying because Toji doesn't have CE he doesn't scale to them is just stupid... How do you explain him damaging them, or do they not scale to their own domain as well?
It destruction Toji🤬🤬 But when it comes to Combat Toji🥶🥶hes beating gojo