OVERCOMPLICATING COUNTERPOINT (The best excuse to not practice!)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ม.ค. 2025

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  • @mr.wigman
    @mr.wigman 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I am 10 minutes in and I was expecting some skills. I found many good solutions for this simple theme in my head before you even wrote the first note. But you took so long for such a absolute garbadge counterpoint. Its just two voices and such a simple theme and you cant even do this. Why are you teaching this mr. award winning Vienna proffessor? You have no idea about counterpoint. Go practice for a couple more years noob

    • @LearnCompositionOnline
      @LearnCompositionOnline  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@mr.wigman yes i need to practice, let‘s do a live ricercare improvisation togheter and record it live. If you found many solutions the video is not for you. Since you are already so good, why are you learning counterpoint 1 to 1 on TH-cam? How can you I help you? The video is about giving a reference for artistic simplicity in terms of very pragmatic craftsmanship .

    • @LearnCompositionOnline
      @LearnCompositionOnline  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@mr.wigmanwhere can I hear your counterpoint and learn with you? And who are you?

    • @mr.wigman
      @mr.wigman 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LearnCompositionOnline I am not a teacher for a living, sorry. I am a composer.

    • @mr.wigman
      @mr.wigman 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ I have uploaded a fugue on this channel

  • @mr.wigman
    @mr.wigman 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Who is the 70 year old guy you mentioned in the beginning? I want to check out the "complicated" stuff too 😂

    • @LearnCompositionOnline
      @LearnCompositionOnline  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mr.wigman I mentioned that some men with 17 y.o admire complicated things and start to complicate things themselves there where they should focus on simplicity. The video is about giving a reference for this artistic simplicity in terms of very pragmatic craftsmanship . The complicated stuff you find reading the questions of many students in USA and how others tend to answer them

    • @mr.wigman
      @mr.wigman 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LearnCompositionOnline You mentioned Fux. I think I've read Fux when I was a young lad and its not practical and simply wrong theory. Do they really learn Fux to study counterpoint? Its hillarious. The only way I find is to study well composed scores and compose a lot on piano.

  • @LearnCompositionOnline
    @LearnCompositionOnline  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I saw the exercises of people stuidying in the USA and got the impression they are too “scared” way too early as a beginner in counterpoint. This has to do with the fetiche of counterpoint as the realm of complexity! In this video I suggest for you work on Hallelujas (or equivalent) following not more than TWO key techniques that are proven to be effective. You should practice them at the keyboard and singing. Later you write it down.
    STILL MORE IMPORTANT FOR THE REAL LIFE SITUATION IS THE MELODIC LINE! This makes the counterpoint sound REALLY as COUNTERPOINT!. THE INTERVALS VARY ACCORDING TO STYLES!
    I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS IN ANOTHER VIDEO.
    FOR more examples of very good and simple melodies text me on Patreon for 3$ Here is included ONE fast mentorship each month www.patreon.com/c/kompositorium
    Some areas of the video were unfortunely not visible. Sorry for the apple pencil that died.