the fact this is FOUR YEARS OLD is insane to me, this was my peak of watching B&V live, I never missed an episode when AEW Dynamite started, this is an absolutely legendary rant, up there with the TNA rants, up there with the Gold Boat, Vince Russo’s book, Jenna and Sharmell. EDIT: The Goldberg line after the show is an alltimer too, I remember seeing Johnny Blud’s reaction, “I feel like shit. And I said ME TOO GOLDBERG!”
Yeah I miss when Vinny not caring about anything was just a gimmick. He lives it now. I can't remember the last time Vinny had a quick, witty line or some interesting point. He just watches, comments, reacts to Bryan and doesn't care much either way anymore.
Absolutely, and the sad thing is, it wasn’t Seth’s fault! It was his geriatric, out of touch, moronic boss who made the call to have a DQ in a HELL IN A CELL MATCH! It’s almost like Vince goes out of his way to ruin the reputation of those who bust their ass for him. Thank god there’s AEW and other places where pro wrestlers can go work and make a decent living nowadays.
@@johnselwitz5362 He was being obnoxious on social media, he was being a total shill for the company that booked him into oblivion, he insulted fans directly, he was one half of the equation. He recovered a bit, by turning into the slimiest obnoxious heel character he could possible play, which was the only thing he could do other then leave. Honestly though does it even matter. WWE is dead, it has no hype, it has negative momentum, the only reason it's still making money is sleazy Disney-style bookkeeping and that won't last forever. It's corpse will limp on for a while longer and then it'll die and hopefully the territories will come back or pro wrestling just dies a quiet dignified death in america.
How'd that work out? From what I understand they had two weeks of decent H-directed content and then it became the Steph show with the predictable bull.
Mankind got thrown off the top of the cell and (unplanned) through the cell roof, and the referee didn’t stop the match, and in that situation it would’ve been understandable because of Foley’s legitimate injuries. Fans may have still been unhappy if they stopped that Taker/Foley HIAC, but at least there would’ve been a justifiable reason to end the match. But stopping the Rollins/Fiend match was just so unbelievably stupid, like Vince doesn’t think anything through anymore. And Wyatt just ended up winning the title like a week later so what was the point?
If I recall. This was the 2ND YEAR IN A ROW where the Hell in a Cell Main Event ended in a NON-FINISH. (Braun/Roman the year before, with Dolph/Drew/Ambrose/Seth involved outside the cage)
Yep. Plus the show opened with a good Cell match just like the previous year. Think this was Sasha v Becky. I remember watching it live and my Xbox on the Network started playing up after the Reigns/Bryan v Harper/Rowen match. Eventually, I gave up and went to bed. The fallout from this was everywhere in the morning. I wonder if my Xbox had a premonition about what was to come. The Fiend never recovered from this.
A Disqualification...in a Hell in a Cell match? That referee is the dumbest on-screen official on planet earth while the conclusion buried Seth Rollins and The Fiend/Bray Wyatt. And honestly, who cared for the Universal Championship at that time? Umm...NOBODY. P.S: WHY put them in a red HIAC match??? This curse will never end until the VKM brigade dies.
Turns out, it was not a DQ to be fair, it was a ref stoppage. A ref stoppage because Seth was doing what anybody would do in a Hell in a Cell match, to an opponent that woke up two seconds after the decision to kick Seth's ass. Few endings are as bad as that one.
@@tafua_a I SORT OF KIND OF understood... It just.. FELL TOTALLY FLAT. (I think they were going for: "Seth don't do it, you'll KILL HIM! THAT IS TOO FAR!" Then "OMG THE FIEND SURVIVED THE KILLING! HE'S JUST LIKE FREDDY KRUGER!!" ) You know what I mean? lol
@@btbucks The worse thing to happen to AEW was punk acting like a bitch and not getting fired. Vince getting fired wasn’t a negative for them. As Raw, Smackdown, & NXT ratings are the same as they were before he stepped down, returned, & stepped down again.
@@jeffreyklima7612 Very very well, AEW's still fantastic and delivers most of the time. Glad to see WWE is much much better than it was in 2019 also. It's a good time to be a wrestling fan.
With Bray probably coming back it made listening to this interesting. I hope his next run is better, though liked elements of The Fiend. Also worried because betting first feud will be Rollins. That or Balor
@@jaredgarrison333 It wasn’t Bray’s idea to beat Cena in a cage match via distraction and then lose the feud a month and a half later. Wasn’t Bray’s idea to job to Undertaker at WrestleMania Wasn’t Bray’s idea to job to Goldberg in Saudi Arabia Wasn’t Bray’s idea to have the Wyatt’s lose to Kane & Undertaker at Survivor Series. Wasn’t Bray’s idea to force Danielson to join the Wyatt’s against his will and turn on them the following week. Wasn’t Bray’s idea to lose a feud to Broken Matt Hardy and form a random tag team. Wasn’t Bray’s idea to come back months after Randy set him on fire and lose to Randy at WrestleMania.
@@ashishranjan1661 🤦♂️WATCH THE VERY FIRST HELL IN A CELL FOR GOD SAKES AND RETHINK YOUR ASININE RESPONSE. WATCH THE ARMAGEDDON HIAC FROM 2000 AND RETHINK YOUR ASININE RESPONSE
This match was awesome. Only thing that sucked about it was Wyatt didn’t win which was pointless considering him and Rollins had a rematch just a couple weeks later at Crown Jewel.
Bro this match sucked lmao Bray would’ve won and it would’ve been just a bad match with a good outcome. The reason it was so bad was a god awful match, terrible finish, wrong guy won, and a rival company is debuting around this time so it would be best to capitalize on your biggest star at the time to make your fans happy and they ended up killing Bray’s momentum AND ruined Seth Rollins as a babyface top guy at the same time!
I disagree. Kicking out of like a hundred curb stomps (and a pedigree!) was awful. How would anyone realistically beat the Fiend after kicking out of so many finishers?
I'm sad they started deleting videos older than like 3 years on their channel. Watching Bryan fall out of his chair laughing was amazing!
the fact this is FOUR YEARS OLD is insane to me, this was my peak of watching B&V live, I never missed an episode when AEW Dynamite started, this is an absolutely legendary rant, up there with the TNA rants, up there with the Gold Boat, Vince Russo’s book, Jenna and Sharmell.
EDIT: The Goldberg line after the show is an alltimer too, I remember seeing Johnny Blud’s reaction, “I feel like shit. And I said ME TOO GOLDBERG!”
Yeah I miss when Vinny not caring about anything was just a gimmick. He lives it now. I can't remember the last time Vinny had a quick, witty line or some interesting point. He just watches, comments, reacts to Bryan and doesn't care much either way anymore.
5 years this year like Kofi’s world title win
@@CoffeeStain-Music their Royal Rumble review this year was great, extremely funny episode probably the funniest podcast they’ve done in a while
MINUS FIVE STARS
MAYBE TEN
@@Headbanger142 What one was that? Rhaka Khan vs the minis?
@@Jygerthe2nd yep
“F*cking mallets, how do they work?”
This was where Seth's reputation became irreparably damaged....it has never truly recovered since.
I agree 100% never really thought about that
Absolutely, and the sad thing is, it wasn’t Seth’s fault! It was his geriatric, out of touch, moronic boss who made the call to have a DQ in a HELL IN A CELL MATCH! It’s almost like Vince goes out of his way to ruin the reputation of those who bust their ass for him. Thank god there’s AEW and other places where pro wrestlers can go work and make a decent living nowadays.
He's definitely recovered since this
@@johnselwitz5362 He was being obnoxious on social media, he was being a total shill for the company that booked him into oblivion, he insulted fans directly, he was one half of the equation.
He recovered a bit, by turning into the slimiest obnoxious heel character he could possible play, which was the only thing he could do other then leave.
Honestly though does it even matter. WWE is dead, it has no hype, it has negative momentum, the only reason it's still making money is sleazy Disney-style bookkeeping and that won't last forever. It's corpse will limp on for a while longer and then it'll die and hopefully the territories will come back or pro wrestling just dies a quiet dignified death in america.
@@BBoy4040 Depends. He hasn't been in the main event scene besides that one match with Roman in 2022.
My dad and I were loyal watchers from 2015 to around 2018-19. Shit like this made us give up on wrestling again
I quit watching wwe because of this match. With HHH taking control I’m coming back to give them another chance.
Wrestingsgay
How'd that work out? From what I understand they had two weeks of decent H-directed content and then it became the Steph show with the predictable bull.
Did you quit again when Vince came back and kicked HHH out?
Wwe is the most boring television ever produced
Mankind got thrown off the top of the cell and (unplanned) through the cell roof, and the referee didn’t stop the match, and in that situation it would’ve been understandable because of Foley’s legitimate injuries. Fans may have still been unhappy if they stopped that Taker/Foley HIAC, but at least there would’ve been a justifiable reason to end the match. But stopping the Rollins/Fiend match was just so unbelievably stupid, like Vince doesn’t think anything through anymore. And Wyatt just ended up winning the title like a week later so what was the point?
Wait...the show in Saudi Arabia where The Fiend/Bray Wyatt won that toy belt was a week later???
3 weeks later already checked@@JaimeD.
If I recall. This was the 2ND YEAR IN A ROW where the Hell in a Cell Main Event ended in a NON-FINISH. (Braun/Roman the year before, with Dolph/Drew/Ambrose/Seth involved outside the cage)
Yep. Plus the show opened with a good Cell match just like the previous year. Think this was Sasha v Becky. I remember watching it live and my Xbox on the Network started playing up after the Reigns/Bryan v Harper/Rowen match. Eventually, I gave up and went to bed. The fallout from this was everywhere in the morning. I wonder if my Xbox had a premonition about what was to come. The Fiend never recovered from this.
I recall immediately canceling WWE Network after this. Apparently MANY others did the exact same ha
The fd up ever having the fiend near the title.
RIP Bray Wyatt.
A Disqualification...in a Hell in a Cell match? That referee is the dumbest on-screen official on planet earth while the conclusion buried Seth Rollins and The Fiend/Bray Wyatt. And honestly, who cared for the Universal Championship at that time? Umm...NOBODY.
P.S: WHY put them in a red HIAC match??? This curse will never end until the VKM brigade dies.
Turns out, it was not a DQ to be fair, it was a ref stoppage. A ref stoppage because Seth was doing what anybody would do in a Hell in a Cell match, to an opponent that woke up two seconds after the decision to kick Seth's ass. Few endings are as bad as that one.
@@tafua_a I SORT OF KIND OF understood... It just.. FELL TOTALLY FLAT. (I think they were going for: "Seth don't do it, you'll KILL HIM! THAT IS TOO FAR!" Then "OMG THE FIEND SURVIVED THE KILLING! HE'S JUST LIKE FREDDY KRUGER!!" ) You know what I mean? lol
@@toptenguy1 Yeah, it didn't work. Especially since it shits on all the pre-established lore of HIAC
@@tafua_a
What pre established lore?
Mankind & Kane had a Hell in A Cell match in 98 which was the fourth HIAC went to a no contest
@@UMOGrunt Those were Russorrific glorified angles that were pretty much forgotten about months later
The day the Joker lost his smile. Like hbk
Vince McMahon being forced out was the best thing to happen to the company.
And worse thing to happen to AEW
@@btbucks
The worse thing to happen to AEW was punk acting like a bitch and not getting fired.
Vince getting fired wasn’t a negative for them. As Raw, Smackdown, & NXT ratings are the same as they were before he stepped down, returned, & stepped down again.
I stopped watching WWE after this. I’ll never forget the caption at the end of the credits said “fans boo” and I’ll always remember that.
AEW literally saved me as wrestling fan.
How'd this age for ya?
@@jeffreyklima7612 Very very well, AEW's still fantastic and delivers most of the time.
Glad to see WWE is much much better than it was in 2019 also. It's a good time to be a wrestling fan.
this match and ppv made me stop watching the fed for damn near 5 years, now after summerslam I am trying to give it another go
With Bray probably coming back it made listening to this interesting. I hope his next run is better, though liked elements of The Fiend. Also worried because betting first feud will be Rollins. That or Balor
Yea he dead ☠️
Bray wyatt was the absolute shits in everything he ever did
No one no sells like bray? Guess these giys have never seen a plumber moxley match😂😂😂
Bray/Fiend was a character on shaky ground to begin with. It was absolutely destroyed by Vince's booking, though.
I think brays awful ideas contributed as well
@@jaredgarrison333 Absolutely. That's a take that's often rejected, though, but it's true. Bray was all over the place.
@@jaredgarrison333
It wasn’t Bray’s idea to beat Cena in a cage match via distraction and then lose the feud a month and a half later.
Wasn’t Bray’s idea to job to Undertaker at WrestleMania
Wasn’t Bray’s idea to job to Goldberg in Saudi Arabia
Wasn’t Bray’s idea to have the Wyatt’s lose to Kane & Undertaker at Survivor Series.
Wasn’t Bray’s idea to force Danielson to join the Wyatt’s against his will and turn on them the following week.
Wasn’t Bray’s idea to lose a feud to Broken Matt Hardy and form a random tag team.
Wasn’t Bray’s idea to come back months after Randy set him on fire and lose to Randy at WrestleMania.
August 24, 1998 Monday Night Raw
Mankind vs Kane inside HIAC and the match ended in a no contest when Stone Cold interfered
@@ashishranjan1661 🤦♂️WATCH THE VERY FIRST HELL IN A CELL FOR GOD SAKES AND RETHINK YOUR ASININE RESPONSE. WATCH THE ARMAGEDDON HIAC FROM 2000 AND RETHINK YOUR ASININE RESPONSE
This match was awesome. Only thing that sucked about it was Wyatt didn’t win which was pointless considering him and Rollins had a rematch just a couple weeks later at Crown Jewel.
@@chriscothron3606 No, this match was liquid dog shit
Bro this match sucked lmao Bray would’ve won and it would’ve been just a bad match with a good outcome. The reason it was so bad was a god awful match, terrible finish, wrong guy won, and a rival company is debuting around this time so it would be best to capitalize on your biggest star at the time to make your fans happy and they ended up killing Bray’s momentum AND ruined Seth Rollins as a babyface top guy at the same time!
@@wallyrosario654 i would also like to say the *RED HELL LIGHTS* did not help at all.
Wow..
NJPW really is just kicking out of finishers until the match finally ends for some reason though.
Pedrigrees, curb stomps, ladders, chairs, tables and sledgehammers apparently can't stop the Fiend.
But I guess Covid could.
You forgot Goldberg.
it was awesome up til the finish
Agreed. If Bray had just won with the Sister Abigail it would have been perfect.
@@chriscothron3606 and then it dragged.
I disagree. Kicking out of like a hundred curb stomps (and a pedigree!) was awful. How would anyone realistically beat the Fiend after kicking out of so many finishers?
@@TheSlammurai
Call a 50 something former football player.......or Randy Orton.