My rant on the 90 Dollar Trader's Gilded Brutosaur Auction House Mount...
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No matter what, Blizzard are laughing all the way to the bank and most of those redditors complaining about it are probably afk in game right now sitting on it.
Oh ya, this has to be the most they have ever made off one microtransaction for sure.
@@ericv738 Well there are plenty of people corroborating this in this very comment section lol...
When the original Brutosaur was still available A LOT of people were spending hundreds if not thousands of dollars on WoW Tokens to get it, but no one really had an issue with it because you can earn gold but making 5 million gold took an insanely long grind on multiple characters and a lot of people still didnt get close.
Its cheaper than the old one and its a convenience.
Even though you are right the OG bruto came out after WOD. During WOD with the garrison a lot of people had multiple accounts gold capped as in 50mil between all toons capped. I knew someone that pay their rent during WOD by selling gold. That how much gold you could make passively in WOD
@@tuskgarcia9851 you’re right but a lot of people also quit the game during WOD or took a break
Right, that's my thoughts too. I know a few people who bought it exclusively with tokens.
my husband has insulted me today saying i was a BADD for not having 5M gold xD , THAT instead of doing keys i should be out farming gold as we supposed to. told him to chill or he shall feel ma rage lol but yeah... i dont see how can i push keys and get 5m gold today, not with the current economy , i feel gold is bleeding out more than coming in xD
a 900$ is ridiculously whale degenerate and that's understandable that some people are addicts, but a 90$ is the grey area of still being a years worth of sub/2 new video games and it's actual marketting deception that it's "so cheap [compared to what it was before]"
either way bobby's EA yacht stay's fueled by mounts and not a bug filled imbalanced patch
I brought about 5 minutes after I saw the wowhead article. I went into BFA with around 7m gold. I didn't buy the mount straight away because I was in no rush and I was mythic raiding. I quit shortly before Eternal Palace, only found out what they took it away when I rejoined in Shadowlands and then Dragonflight. That really pissed me off, frankly I hate when they take anything out of the game, and yeah it was on the BMAH, but gold cap is insane. So I converted about 1.2m gold into tokens and just snagged it.
The funniest thing is how many abusive comments I've been getting from random people who see me on it, custom /spit /puke emotes, etc. Like get over yourselves, you don't like the cash shop, I get it, but if it really matters that much to you stop playing the game.
I'm over here enjoying my new shiny toy.
I'm happy for you, I bought the mount too I've been wanting this mount since they took it away in shadowlands.
"random people who see me on it, custom /spit /puke emotes" that makes me want to buy the mount haha
Enjoy it all you want but people can call out stupid when they see it and mounting a blatant cash grab is a good way to put a target on your back for public humiliation lol.
Glad to hear, and I agree they shouldn't have removed the old one.
@@redoni4325lol bro. Go play on your rp server
I brought it. Played the game since Vanilla launch. I can afford it, thought it looked great and I will make use of it.
Don't see the issue with it.
Ya, realistically there is no issue with it. Only problem in my eyes is that its so cheap compared to the BFA one.
Same same.
I hated spending RL money on this mount, but holy shi+ every time i mount and check the AH I feel extremely content. I check the AH daily, mulitple times a day for good deals.
Nice, and you weren't able to do that before?
I spend so much time in the city looking for mythic plus groups anyway I would never think to use it haha
@@heythereguysitsMetro It's so funny how you argue FOR the mount, yet COMPLETELY underappreciate how useful it is... Ok, you say you don't use auction house... I have no idea how that would even be possible, but so be it...
I had to google if you can buy the mount while not being a subscriber, because I saw IMMEDIATELY what a giant change to the whole game this is.
@@mcbrite I'm saying it's not useful for me. I don't ever use the auction house outside of times I'm in queue for mythic plus groups.
I think we are in a day and age that it doesn’t matter if even the perfect game was designed people will always find something to complain about . We are just in a generation that is very ungrateful for everything
Huge entitlement for sure. These people feel entitled to a mount that used to cost 800 dollars at its peak being cheap now lol.
@@heythereguysitsMetro It shouldn't cost 800 and it shouldn't cost 90. It isn't about entitlement. Its about the fact that its a friggin MOUNT IN A VIDEO GAME! Look at the shop now and see the 4 mounts for WC30th for a third of that stupid brutosaur. People like you ruing game econs as you are just willing to pay whatever your masters demand!
@@HarvestrXyou clearly haven’t played any of the Korean mmo’s where buying a pair of underwear for your character can cost thousands of USD for bis stats, then a weapon is more like 5-10k
I think a lot of people were actually bitter about the brutosaur last time, but they have moved on. Then this new brutosaur comes along and has brought all that stuff back into people's minds.
Yup, I imagine so.
We also have to bare in mind that even when just counting in game gold and not including real money and the WoW token way of accumulating that gold, at the time of the Brotosaur's release, the value of 5 million gold at that period in time was way more than 5 million gold is today.
If you have Engineering you can use the MOLL-E Toy as it is a separate cd from other mail toys.
If you are not an Engineer, then there's the option of Katy's Stampwhistle Toy from Dragon Flight which i use frequently on all my alts.
Another one from way back is the Argent Squire / Argent Gruntling which requires Exalted with the Argent Champion located at the Tournament Grounds at the far north in Ice Crown.
You'd also need the Argent Pony Bridle which cost 150x Champion Seals to add mail functionality to the Argent Squire / Argent Gruntling.
I believe Katy's Stampwhistle and the Argent Squire/ Gruntling are the only 2 currently available universal uses with no Race or Profession restrictions.
Both however, are locked behind some questlines.
@@bojnebojnebojne right because it's less inflation you mean?
@@heythereguysitsMetro Yeah i mean it's just easier to accumulate gold by playing the game than it was back then.
So getting to 5M gold by playing the game and flipping materials in AH is way easier now, than it was back then.
Because now there is broader market for flipping materials.
More things have a higher value due to the supply vs demand etc
No longer the case that you get cornered on the market because the 1 item that is actually valuable someone has already claimed monopoly on.
I’ve heard that in BFA, people would spend cash on tokens to buy the long boy. It could cost them more than 600 dollars. I started playing in Shadowlands, I worked very hard to get ten million and parked a max level characters at the BMAH. In all the time since then, I’ve never seen it come up once. When this new mount came up, I bought six tokens, converted them to blizzard bucks, and bought it. And then I had 8.7 million gold freed up for other things. This has saved me so much time. And FWIW, I would still pay five mill for the original.
@@litebkt glad you made the right choice!
You know what’s coming next? A mount that has AH, mailbox, repair and bank in one. $200 FOMO in one month window and tell me if you’ll buy it.
@@cocs88715 a five seater mount? I'm sure people would pay a lot for that tbh.
As long as there are enough people willing to cough up $90 for it, it's a good busyness decision. At least it's guaranteed, and not a gatcha scam. Sure, it's a big advantage to have it, but in no way it's game breaking(except for all the mount collectors)
Oh ya, totally agreed.
As someone who had the OG mount in their account in a server in another country that I can't access anymore, I bought this mount within seconds of it being announced with gold. Would buy again.
Nice, glad to hear!
Good points here, Metro. I bought it because I forget to bring flasks to m+ occasionally and I just hearthed. Having the option to re-up with mail/ah was worth the money for me.
@@Oceans_ai cool, that's a good reason to purchase it!
I want to earn mounts like this through the game, not through my wallet. That applies to all "Pay to win" crap in RPG's.
Earning things through the game ,"feels" 100x better then just using you're wallet.
Then go do it. You can earn the gold and buy tokens to get the mount.
I didn't spend an single penny on it. Bought it with in game gold using the wow token. If a poor casual like me can casually make enough in game gold to buy it anyone can. Now let's hope the price of the wow token stays low.
You can buy legitimately ANYTHING in the blizzard store with in game gold. I'm shocked at the amount of people who don't know this with WoW tokens.
I highly doubt it will be on the Trading Post, you would probably need several months of tender for it.
Ya, we will see. Ya never know haha
same, IF it was a true anniversary themed mount, this isn't very anniversary looking.
Maybe in 5 years it will be, but not anytime soon.
01) There's zero chance the AH will go on the trading post
02) Blizz was an absolute marketing genius. Place a 5mil mount in for limited time 5 years ago. Let is simmer on the black market AH for gold cap for all this time. Bring in a different, better AH mount for approx 1.3mil gold, again for a limited time.
03) They will wait 2-3 more years, let it simmer on the black market, and then drop a new AH mount for 120$ this time.
04) I like this concept. Bring a ton of stuff to AH. Let the people who want the items fund the game. Reduce the sub & game price (I doubt it, but still.)
Ya
There is 0 way their most expensive mount is ending up on the trading post ..
Then why are they removing it?
@@heythereguysitsMetro To trigger fomo, limited time mount sells more.
@@Duriel92 and you think that sells more than this mount for another 20 years to come?
@@heythereguysitsMetro If I were a betting man the idea would be to keep doing this. Every 5 or so years release a new version of the brut for XYZ reason and have a period of time to cash in on new players FOMOing in. If it is always there less people feel the urgency to buy it otherwise. Any serious raider/M+er is going to want this mount and will 100% buy it as it becomes super useful for nearly all PVE content. It is a similar selling proposition as the Mc Rib. By having it be limited time offer more people purchase it than would normally over the long run. It is artificial scarcity selling mixed in with a prestige mount.
Personally I am pro the mount and bought one for myself and my partner but it is a brilliant money making strat and the real dollars vs gold argument is silly considering how inter operable they are. People are just salty they can't get it for free.
If they put it on trading post, it'll probably be for something silly like a few months tender lmao
I'd be dying almost lying awake at night from the guilt and shame of what I've done to my community if I were Blizzard. It's so pathetic. R.I.P. Azeroth. When the world was the main character...
That's a really entitled take tbh. The company has always had one goal. That's to make money. They can make a great game and still prioritize that and that's what's happening with the war within.
The outrage stems from the fact a mount cost more then the Actual game of the war within. I bought it and could care less. I couldn't make 5m gold in BFA for the original so I wanted the Mobile AH.
Right, but you don't have to buy it.
buying it actively makes the game worse, thank you
@@chain872005 no one has to buy it. Just like no one needs a smart watch, but people still have them.
@@dylanevans4368 It doesn't but good try
@@dylanevans4368 It made it a whole lot better for me!
As a new player (began about 5 days ago) I don't understand why the mount would affect anyone, apart from someone who gets it and maybe progresses quicker due to its features. I appreciate the price, regardless of whether I know the game. £60/$90 is a lot of money regardless of what it's for.
However, I find it interesting and cool to see the old and new ones in wow.
I am useless on the game, but I have loved the learning curve the last few days (for example, I was stuck at the end of a dungeon run because I didn't know how to exit after the group completed it for 10 minutes!!!)
I will be buying it just because I like the collectability. I won't be using the features, though, because I want to enjoy travelling into town and slowing down the game. I don't think it takes anything away from the old one because that has different features, and that is now its own thing. it doesn't lessen the old one. I think it makes it cooler, seeing that people collected that for the 5mil and there arnt many mounting the old one.
I agree the price is steep, and purchasing doesn't support others who can't just chuck that money down on a random feature/mount.
but it looks cool
Love to hear this perspective. Playing wow for 5 days is awesome.
9:09 Worst take of the video, How are you ok with a $90 mount being put into a game shop?
Where the game itself is cheaper than the mount AND you have to pay $20 a month to play the game?
It's just pure unrefined greed, It's disgusting and the fact so many people are either indifferent or accept it just shows the suits at blizzard won.
I'm going to have a stoke if i hear one more person say "BRO $90 IS SO CHEAP! This used to be $500 or more" We get it... It's "So much cheaper" now when it's not. It's a NINETY DOLLAR mount. I don't care if the previous mount was $10,000. The mount being $90 and more than the cost of the expansion is ridiculous and should be vilified.
You can't not care about the previous mount. The previous mount is why this is so important.
@@heythereguysitsMetro The previous mount was a novelty for whales and longtime players who were goldcapped to finally have something to go after.
That mount was never intended for the average player to have access to. So making that the "Standard" for why the new one is "OMG SO CHEAP GUYS" is ridiculous. It's not cheap, It's an insanely high price for a mount in a video game. It costs more than the game itself. Just because the previous version of the mount was an insane grind or over $600 does not make the new one a good deal.
8:33 I think the Liquid guys said somewhere they made 2-3 mil gph selling m+ carries during peak times.
Ya, so that's at the very top level. Your average player is going to struggle to make 5million gold before they could make 700ish dollars.
$90 for the mount is fine, I’m an adult and will spend my money how I see fit.
What’s actually offensive is the fact that there’s a time limit to buy it. FOMO is real and people will think they’re obligated to purchase.
Ya but it doesn't make sense. This will be such a valuable mount at this price point any day of the week. Surely they are going to lose money over removing it long term.
"$90 for the mount is fine"
Instantly retarded take. Wow.
I think the new mount has more functionality than the old one, because of the mailbox. You get the repair guy on the Yak anyway. For the people who argue: "Oh but I have to switch mounts." well if you buy something on the auction house you need a mailbox nearby. And if you want to rep before entering a dungeon you just need the repair and not the auction house... Logic is nice if you know how to apply it.
Personally I am gambling they'll introduce it to the trading post and I have stacked up over 7000 tender at all times.
Would have thought about buying it, but JUST the mount for 90$ wasn't worth it for me, because a) I hate giving this company more than I need to and b) someone from my friend group already bought it which means as long as we are both on the discord I can use his.
If they would have added something small on top of it, I would have bought without hesitation. A nice transmog or even just a weapon enchant. Anything that I could possibly care about. I know 90$ is a good deal comparativly speaking. But I could also go eat out two to three times for the same money.
Agreed
As someone that has bought an embarrassing amount of tokens. The cap was 20 a week and I've had many weeks in a row I was waiting to buy 20 more on Saturday at 630pm when it opens for me again. I did chose not to buy the new mount with that said because I have old one. The mailbox is pretty sick though.
Oh interesting, the cap is weekly?
DOOD! brother Metro! thank god for your thoughts here man. I'm considering getting the mount. I think like its worth while a purchase I am personally happy with the fact blizz is offering convience in the shop now! I'm personally gonna buy it bro. I'm a gold maker and like it would be a super convinience for someone like myself. I agree with you though it is like a non issue. I've played games that offer like actual game items in their shop. Like gear n weapons n stuff like this. But yeah bro good observations the fomo crowd needs to stop here! stay safe brother metro.
@@sabatykos thanks and glad you resonated with these thoughts.
this is the 2nd mount with an auction house, there is a 0% chance this will end up on the trading post especially given the price lol. bought it yesterday
If they do add it to trading post that would be epic though the ultimate own to their players.
I think there is a good chance. I don't really understand why else they would remove it. Only logical reason to me is they plan on returning it every anniversary or something.
I'm currently nut subbed to WOW/don't even play WOW... And I STILL bought it yesterday... It's just "too big" to miss... One of the biggest annoyances in WOW to me have ALWAYS been full bags and being forced into town... Now, between Repair/SellGrey-Mount from Pandaria and this thing I'm FINALLY in the position I've waited for for 20 years!!! I go to town when I want to, not my bags want to...
@@mcbrite it's certainly an amazing value!
Once the OG Bruto was announced late Legion, I grinded my ass to get to 5 mil so I could buy it day one BFA released.
Now I bought the new one also for WoW tokens, for around 2 mil. I thought hey, if I did spend 3 mil to get max warband bank, 2 mil for no cd mobile mailbox sounds like a deal.
I read many comments from the OG Burto holders that it devalued their achievement of getting it, tbh I could not care less, I bought the dino for mobile AH, not for flex - other expensive mounts like 2 mil spider or 1,5 mil scarab I pass, because they don't have the utility component.
If it comes to trading post, then well, at least I saved the tenders for some other stuff.
Glad to hear this perspective. I would worry that original brutosaur owners might be upset by this. Glad you can enjoy both!
NGL I will probably buy it. I missed out on the original brutosaur because I was convinced it would always be available and that I could spend several expansions grinding up the gold to buy it. By the time I realized that it was going away it was too late late to start grinding. (I mean I don't control the auction house like our buddy Gxxkc does lol.) So I refuse to miss out again. My only issue will be saving up enough money in time. Especially since I have some rather large expenses coming out once I get back into the real world. So I may actually miss out again. We'll see. But if I don't get it it won't be because I have a problem with the concept of it. (I mean you said it best. The people wgo bought it with gold got their exclusivity by how long it was unavailable. Moreover if you are going to bring it back like this it really should be now to celebrate such a huge milestone like the 20th anniversary.) Also this is totally in line with Blizzard's overarching design philosophy. They introduce something in the most restrictive way possible to see how well it works and identify any possible issues with it in the least intrusive way possible while simultaneously guageing community interest in ways that it can be expanded so they can design such expansions to be the most effective and least troublesome. To quote Blizzard themselves, it's easier and less disruptive to gameplay to design something as narrowly as possible and expand upon it than to design something hugely broadly and have to take away things people have become used to.
At the end of the day I tend to agree with you. It's not worth getting upset over. If you don't like it don't buy it. If the majority of people agree with you it will die and never happen again. But if the majority of people like it it will thrive and flourish and more things like it will happen. Free market economics is the most pure way of distribution. What the people like they pay for and succeed, what they don't they don't and it goes away. No need to get all up I. A huff about it.
Yup, well said. Can't wait to see you riding it!
the problem is not with blizz earning money, but the trend establishing ittself in the industry, where a cometic microtransaction earns more then a full developed game in seconds, this is why people are mad :< + we still pay the subscription
@@yant3k why would anyone be mad about that though? You have to pay the money for the expansion. The mount is optional.
@@heythereguysitsMetro different metrics send different messages to EA microsoft. you reward china with cosmetic microtransactions making 2x more than the actual expansion that's why you get garbage patches and content. "just dont buy it" shows you dont know about corporate game dev and china ceo priorities. "but it doesnt effect gameplay if you dont buy it" while blizzard has done nothing but fire devs the past few years till youre down to a 5 man team and 90% of the profit goes to people who dont know what wow is.
on a business level, you're rewarding the lowest tier scumbag priority effort with 100%+ of your wallet.
you may just be a player running dungeons all day repeatedly but maybe try looking at it from an industry/business perspective of why wow/the world's leader mmo/game turned out the way it is (nintendo64 microtransaction disneyland)
microtransactions are the prime evil of game dev
@@heythereguysitsMetro Not everyone is a Blizzard shill like you are. The fact is, Blizzard sees that this works and will do it more often and probably even make more expensive mounts. Other games will see how Blizzard is able to do this and copy.
@@lordshadow19 and what? Just don't buy it. The "trend" is buying an optional mount.
Calling someone a "shill" makes you look like a moron when this is so obvious.
Give it wings and a transmog and vendor guy, and I'll buy it right now.😊
@@dennisbrglum4035 haha
It costs more than the expansion itself, that’s crazy
Right but the last one cost 10 times the expansion cost haha
Imagine if last week you'd just spent gold cap to purchase the original brutosaur on the BMAH.
Ya, that's what I'm saying. I don't like that this is this cheap compared to that tbh.
HAPPILY BOUGHT MINE IN A HEARTBEAT.
You aren't alone in that
I'm not against the mount, and it's a good value when compared to the original, which I do not have. It's really hard to justify buying a mount that costs more than an expansion. I can not afford to buy it in game or irl at the moment, so really hoping they release it for tendies. My financials aside, I think it's fair to spend money on your hobbies if wow is your hobby, and you have the funds to go for it. I hate to buy it now, or it's gone BS. Them making money is fine, that means maybe we get a better less buggy rushed feeling patch.
@@ravenwollf good perspective all around. Don't be scared to grind gold! You got two months to do it
If this isn't the perfect example of price anchoring I don't know what is.
Had to look up this phrase, but doesn't seem to apply.
The original mount is still going to be going for many million regularly. This is simply a new one, and much cheaper than the previous one.
Exactly - you can tell financial literacy is broadly shockingly low among WoW players yeah. Everyone will parrot that "but it's cheaper" line because they've psychologically fixed the price at some absurd value and then slashed it so that you make the decision relatively, rather than objectively (which is that $90 USD for a mount is wild)
@@ysxbel Are we sure its FINANCIAL literacy that's in question here?
Many many players bought it for what would be 500-800 dollars.
Now its available for 90 dollars.
The ONLY thing that matters here is the relative cost, because a LOT of people bought it for that really high amount of money, and it continued to sell for even HIGHER for 5+ years.
How is this a psychological issue? The market value of getting an AH mount went from at least 500 dollars, more like 1k, to 90 dollars.
And people want that, a LOT.
To me, it sounds like the problem would be if people weren't happy to pay 1k for it, and now they reduce it to pretend like its a steal.
This one is absolutely just a steal, and everyone knows it. That's why it sold so crazily.
Anybody complaining about this but still logging in is irrelevant imo. If people want to quit over something as small as this, farewell lol
Ya I tend to agree. The people who overreact over this usually are just throwing a fit.
Loot boxes in games have got people to gamble so much money on unknown items that some states/countries want to regulate the gaming industry under the same rules as a casino. I personally prefer this shop approach of knowing exactly what you're paying for. I'm sure they have an investment team that sets the price for maximum profits indifferent to past offerings. Compared to so many games where you can simply buy player power I feel like Blizz has done a decent job of taking the high road. I do feel for the people who genuinely want the mount but can't really afford to spend that money. But that really is the case for all luxury items. Really want that new car but can't spend the money on it so i'll keep driving this old one. And make no mistake it is a luxury item and not required to succeed at any level of this game. On the other hand, people are entitled to feel however they want about it. I personally hate the idea of items being limited time. What about new players who weren't even around for the first AH mount? They're just left out forever because they didn't play back then?
Yup well said all around. At worst you just farm gold and buy tokens. The problem is you only have two months to do that. Not a fan of that myself.
I'm waiting for the flying mount. There will be a vendor flying mount. Surely. Maybe im coping. haaha
@@NariNarwhals ya don't think that will happen. The ground mounts don't even work properly when you are traveling.
@@heythereguysitsMetro I definitely agree with your point. We were memeing in raid the other night of hey, Next time they're gonna lock a flying vendor mount with ah, mail, vendor behind a year sub and $180 next. My friend in keys has one so no need for me to purchase any.
Was super convenient to buy pots before the key started. Shrug.
Oneazerothtv i think the ones quoting the price are looking at the mount in the same light as the other shop mounts. It is really obvious to many of us the AH+Mail is worth the money because we compared to the OG Bruto and their price.
When you compare that the 90 is a decent price for the perk; also many of us work for a living 90 is about 3-4 hours or work maybe 5 depending on your job which takes less time than farming 5mil gold in game. In terms of time investment the price tag is cheap.
Ya, pretty much said exactly that in the video haha... but I'm glad we agree!
if you buy this mount you can never complain about not having enough money ever again
Why
its not a problem to get to auction house AND there are tons of auction house mounts everywhere right now :D
i for my self will not buy mounts
its a subscription game and the expansion is not cheap either so i dont feel like the company needs the real money shop
i would love to see that mount beeing a achievment ingame instead a hard one ^^
You can look at it as an achievement of collecting 2million gold!
@@heythereguysitsMetro haha true :D
You can use the mailbox on the mount like a regular mailbox.
I... know that?
I think it’s super sick and very fairly priced for what it does and what it is I just don’t use the auction house enough to justify it but I think it’s sick. I do think it’s more of a keeping up with the Joneses type of thing that it is a true utility with how easy it is to get to the capital city and get to the auction. But more power to the people that have it I think it looks really really cool.
Totally agree. I would never use it personally, but a lot of people asked me why I didn't get it, as if it was expected of me as I earn a living off the game haha
@@heythereguysitsMetro right? Guess you’re supposed to get a blizzard tattoo across your forehead next too right? lol
@@C_Griffy haha
At the end of BFA you would need to spend $780 in wow tokens to buy the Ah mount . I did consider it
Yup, said that in the video right?
They are not putting this on the trading post in let's say a year or 2 ( if it's still around -- Post I mean ) -- they will put it away and revamp / design it and re-release it again in 3 to 5 years.
I have a feeling its gonna be on the trading post tbh. I don't know why they would get rid of it this quickly.
The only problem I have with Blizzard is that I pay a subscription and then also have to buy the expansion and then on top of that there's the shop. And they now put something highly valuable/functional in that shop. It just comes across kinda shady.
Not against Blizzard making money, but feel like they're just playing into FOMO really heavily. Early access, but only on the $90 pre-order, a functional, highly usable mount for $90 that's time limited. That sorta thing just rubs me the wrong way. Not so much that the mount is $90. People should make their own decision whether it is worth it for them.
I gotta ask, if they’d have put it on a vendor for 2 mil or something, would you have felt any different about it? If yes, then that’s a clown position. Because gold and $ are equivalent. The ‚cash price‘ would have been the same. You would have just been duped.
If no, then are you against the idea of anything being available for gold?
@@MrAlathiel I'm in a way against how the trading post works, if that's what you're asking. All kinds of limited items, and no way to get all of them. It's the same fomo. I don't care if the mount is $90 or whatever the equivalent is in gold. I care that Blizzard is trying to make its money by playing into people's fear of missing out. It's a psychological thing not all people are equipped to deal with.
@@Siferiax so if it was permanent you wouldn’t have a problem with it?
Not talking about the trading post. Just the token - gold conversion
@@Siferiax good thing is you can pay for all these things with gold if you want.
@@MrAlathiel indeed, I would still find it a bit shady to put such function behind a paywall, however now if I wanted to I could work towards getting it.
I hate the store because there usually isn't anything comparable to get from just playing the game. The store items often get new models, animations, everything. Things like raid and gladiator mounts are just reskins. They throw some extra armor on it and change colors on something already in the game. I would like to see the same quality for end game stuff again. I don't care much about what they sell. I say if they will pay it let them buy it. They should sell more cute outfits so people can dress up their elf girls and lower the sub cost for the rest of us because of all the money they make from it.
Good thing about the wow token is you can look at gold as a form of progression and use it to buy all the stuff in the store!
Just another company doing capitalistic things. I love it when people champion capitalism then complain at every moment a company does these types of things. I do agree with you. In the grand scheme of things I would be careful about saying its not gambling... while it isn't this type of stuff does have similar effects... fomo, addiction, a lot of similar psychological effects. It is undoubtedly predatory.
@@DoubleMeatpalace disagree. If people feel predated upon they simply need to work on themselves. Every individual needs to be responsible for their own decisions. If a company is able to trick you into buying something you don't want then every company will be able to.
@@heythereguysitsMetro While I agree most people should be able to step back, think about their decisions, and make 'healthier' decisions for themselves a lot of marketing and advertising is manipulative. Its easy to say "don't buy it" but there is a reason why a lot of things get marketed the way they do because its not that easy for some people.
Imagine the people buying this when they just legit dropped some of the worst class updates I've ever seen in the middle of a patch ever...
Insane how down bad wow players are.
@@Lexaeus94what it shows you is how much of a joke that protesting nonsense was. people don't really care, they just like to complain. Kinda like you are doing right now!
Do you think the class balance guys all looked at each other and to Chris Metzen himself and all gave the thumbs up before they collectively pressed the buttons for the mount to go live on the store?
I will continue to keep my stack of consumables on me and act like the AH mount dont exist. because F greedy blizzard.
Ya I mean there's no reason not to anyway.
This really comes down to if you think you'll be playing this game for years to come. If so, this a amazing deal just because of the convenience this brings to your game play. This by far is the most expensive purchase I've ever made from Blizzard and rarely do I buy anything from the store ever, but this was just to much for me to pass on. And as player that's been playing this game since the start of Cata without taking a break, yup I'll be using this mount for many more years to come or until Blizzard shuts its doors.
Good perspective!
tiffany needs a yacht too
Who is that?
i feel like at the very least the old brutosaur should be updated with a mailbox, other than that it is what it is
Oh ya, well tbh I liked having the repair guy. I would use that just to repair if I had it. I almost never use the AH or a mailbox.
Meh. If you buy every single thing offered by the shop and all the weeekly tokens until you hit the cap, it's still cheaper than golf.
tbf golf is a hobby just for bots and money laundering you bairly even "play golf" you jsut spend a bunch of money to sit at a club with people who make more then you to fell important so there are few "hobbys" more pricy then golf
Haha yup!
I almost bought the first one with tokens, glad I held off. Stuff like this keeps the sub for everyone $15, meanwhile they can make more content than ever and have more staff cooking up ideas than ever. Dragonflight and the War Within have been great and had tons of content, I support them to make more good stuff. There were xpacs where I wouldn’t have given them money, but they’re doing a damn fine job with the game currently
Agree wholeheartedly. Great point about the sub staying 15 dollars.
also the fact that this version of the brutosaur has a mailbox with no cooldown gives it even more quality of life, been playing since end of wotlk and i would never miss the opportunity to buy it
Ya it's really a good purchase tbh.
The people that seem completely complacent with this $90 quality of life store mount obviously never played a Korean MMO. Let me tell you about those games, it's like they have the Brutosaur, but for fucking everything. To even remotely enjoy the game, you need a certain amount of $ purchased QoL items. This is just the beginning, we will see a lot more QoL Store items. Unfortunate.
Luckily you don't need a portable auction house to enjoy the game lol...
The funny about blizzards greed is that they are just smart enough to squeeze more money out of people but not smart enough through their greed to see how much more they could be making. I agree its great that blizzard makes money I don't think any sane person would have a issue with that. But it is how they operate in such a out right disrespectful way. Xbox is a great example of a gaming company who use to be like blizzard but are moving in a good direction. I will say I can understand in many ways how the player base is holding them back or can be misguiding them as well. But a wild thought is maybe allow the real life sale of things in a market. Respect the time and exclusivity of things. The highest selling skin was 1 MILLION for a AK-47 in CSGO (which came gambling crate). People pay insane amounts for skins in Rust and CSGO and that is because there is real value in it. They can resell the item later and they know those companies won't just mass print them. And they only take 5% compared to blizzards 25% cut on WoW tokens. And look how massive the steam market is.
Funny thing is those games are free to play or have a single box cost and no paid updates.
Lotta words but I really am not seeing much of a point.
@@heythereguysitsMetro It's not that complicated. They take the smaller quick gains at the cost of larger gains that are a bit more delayed.
This has effected their release tempo which has impacts on the quality of the game. If they are going to sell skins follow a model that actually makes sense and doesn't piss of the majority of their player base only to then release the same thing in some other way. No other game works that way. The way blizzard manages to piss people off with their choices in insane. They just refuse to adapt.
@adox8574 hmm ya totally disagree with this. I see no evidence it has impacted their development pipeline at all. They have been doing store stuff since the early days too obviously. Content is flowing too fast if anything right now. It's clear they are trying to keep up with some quick deadline that causes issues with QA. Obviously something that whomever is in charge of making mounts has nothing to do with.
Plain and simple: Money grab! Blizz made more money, arguably, from this mount alone for 1/100 the production costs of a full expansion. This will happen again.
I mean, it should, right? Look how popular it was!
I would like to hear your thoughts about some people raising the m+ achievement bar beyond being reachable by exploiting the game with broken/overtuned classes. Would you sanction them and how much would be a sufficient one? There were also alot of mythic raid progress among some guilds cause they used some pvp items to broke bosses from doing mechanics.
Then ask that on a relevant video. Those runs were reverted anyway, or if they haven't yet been, they will be, according to Blizzard.
Why people are mad? If you don't like it don't buy it. I would buy it if I really do professions and make a gold of it. I buy flask every on and on so for me is not necessary, but I am not mad because they put 90 $ mount on the store, no-one is forcing us to buy.
Ya a lot of people just think they are somehow morally righteous by advocating for companies to not be allowed to earn money.
@@heythereguysitsMetro I mean they have to please their shareholders, it is the general trend for publicly owned gaming companies
My problem is the trends in the economy. Expansion over expansion things are getting more expensive and started in shadowlands with the legendary bases. Then the profession rework all consumables went dramatically up. Then this expansion prices went up again especially on enchants. Now for the record I made 10 mil gold doing enchanting this expansion so i was deep in that market. One change that blew my mind was they changed the disenchant "droprate" to give much less tier 3 dust. It made me lose money and prices went up. The problem with the token is Blizzard now has a financial incentive to make us buy it by increasing prices in game. We are frogs getting boiled. I know one of my guildies spent over $1000 on tokens. And another friend spent a couple hundred because he kept FotM rerolling and hes the type of player that needs the best consumables. Blizzard is greedy and has made trillions from us. And it will only get worse.
I don't understand your point. The players set the auction house prices don't they? You are suggesting that blizzard is manipulating the market price?
@@heythereguysitsMetro yes through scarcity of drops.
@@MrMcswiggens So you are suggesting that commodities are some how become more and more scarce as the game gets older?
You are going to REALLY have to work hard to prove that one honestly.
More so that blizzard was months behind on helping the tinderbox droprate which propped up enchants. As well as making the rank 3 dust harder to get 4-5 weeks into the expansion. O still like the game and I can pay for most things with gold but the people that don't no life professions are buying more tokens than ever this expac.
@@MrMcswiggens And can you point to trends from that happening in previous expansions or is this just a one-off issue that really only was exacerbated by the strange idea they had to make delve reagents a thing?
We live in a day and age where it's no longer the quality of the game made but the quality of the platform for devs to sell their product. Like a glorified MMO wish.
Well luckily the quality of the game is outstanding.
the current mount is better then one i grinded 6 months for thats what pisses me off
Ya I can understand that complaint. But it's been five years. You got your money's worth for sure.
I said a few weeks ago if it came back in the shop for 250 I would buy it in a heartbeat. Jokes on Blizzard! Gottem...
Ya, even that would still be half the price haha
Blizzard were the first to have a price tag on the game, a price tag on the DLC/Expansions, a monthly fee and a shop. And then the shop also allowed RMT at some point. What are people even complaining about? Do you guys not know which game you playing?
Doesn't seem so.
On your comment about there being a cap to tokens, I played with a guy who had people buy tokens on their account and trade the gold to him so he could get the Brutosaur
Ya, I bet a lot of people did that.
You know Wow is having issues is when Supporter like Metro also complain
What makes you think I'm complaining lol
The only detriment a company like Blizzard ever makes with these money grabs is why would there quality of game keep dropping... Most people would assume the money goes towards making the game better. Which is partly true, but yet people are seeing the rushed content and game breaking patches more constantly than ever. Quotes like, it's all going to Bobby's yacht seem almost fact.
That's just your inability to focus on the whole game.
The patch was buggy, and many of the bugs were fixed within a few days.
The quality of the game is absolutely NOT dropping. Insane thing to say tbh.
@@heythereguysitsMetro You must have rose tinted glasses if you think they haven't cut content or skimmed through QA just in order to ship faster content? If you think there quality of the game has stayed consistent throughout their 20 bit years then I have no idea what Blizzard game you are on... Blizzard have there ups and downs like anything does, but in my personal opinion. The quality outside there art department and world building is shortchanged at the best of times! The last decade has shown they can make great launches, feck up then band aid to success or just get by.
Giving the players that started playing post bfa, a way to aquire a QoL tool that the rest of the player base had the option to aquire previously is good imo
Also, you can bet the pricing person is gonna get a raise. The absolute AMOUNT of this mount i have seen out there 😂
Ya, I can see that point for sure.
My biggest issue with the mount is that it came just after the most disastrous patch I've seen in WoW in years and felt like a smokescreen so people talk about something else than the terrible QA that was obviously done by unpaid interns, or just completely skipped.
this as fuck and glad to see its hardly working
Ya, well that's just you being negative tbh. The patch was FAR from disastrous. It had some bugs, and they have mostly been fixed by now. There have been way way worse patches with content that doesn't work properly, or that has massive instability causing crashes or other technical issues.
This patch was actually fine, they just had no one test it because the PTR came out the week the season started.
In terms of it being a smokescreen, I can see that point, IF it wasn't also coinciding with the anniversary. Would be really tin-foil hat to suggest that they were just sitting on this mount waiting for bad press and now are LYING about it being related to the anniversary. or what, they released a bad patch on purpose to cover it up or something? Makes no sense.
I think if u forget the real money , this mount is valuable , Like u literally can buy it with tokens , ok token are more expensive now , but whateveer ?? 1st if u kept u're tokens before the mount ,it free .
2nd , if u make a calcul , The bruto without mail was 2 m , and after 5 m on bmah ??? ... ^^
I absolutely did not forget that. Talked about that a LOT in this video..?
@@heythereguysitsMetro Also sorry , i assume that i did not watch the video with that tittle cuz 99 % of vidéos that i actually watch are streamers yelling at blizzard for the " expansive " :<
Alos those same streamers making , i think , Thousands Dollars per month cuz they streaming blizzard games xD
I personally don't care about the mount at all. WOW for me is mostly about M+ and transmog collecting.
Though I can see why some people are angry about it. Different people have different goals in WOW. For some e.g. it's mount collecting. For them it's what makes wow fun.
Be it M+, raids or collecting that makes wow fun for you. You still have to have goals to make the game fun. So i can see if a collector spent a lot of time farming for the mount and feeling good about their achievement getting angry about the store mount.
Ya, same here. Only complaint I actually have is how its so much cheaper than the old one.
£60 in the uk, crazy cheap compared to getting the original mount.
basically the same price as an expansion
Ya that's pretty wild tbh.
Not only cheaper than the original, it's better. Making all those people who either grinded for the gold like maniacs or just paid for the wow tokens immediately pointless. I usually don't care about cosmetic store shit but this is an insanely useful mount and much more than only cosmetics and with it's ridiculous price tag this is beyond scummy.
You mean its scummy for the people who bought the original one I assume?
@heythereguysitsMetro yeah, but for everyone really. Making a single mount the same price as the premium edition of TWW is crazy.
@@him7487 Oh, well no its actually very cheap compared to the previous mount. That was discussed heavily in the video. This mount should have been at least 250 dollars tbh.
@heythereguysitsMetro doesn't matter tho, blizzard hyped up the original brutosaur as something that would be removed at the end of BFA and only really pop back up on the BMAH. I'm sure if they said "hey in like a couple years we're gonna release this thing again just better in every single way." A lot less people would've grinded for the original. Just another blatant cash grab at the cost of the community's trust.
@@him7487 Right, the cash grab was the first one. That's the problem!
90 bucks is a steal for the mount. As you explained, 90 dollars is better than 500. And I already found a use for it. Had no mana food in the middle of a key, longboi took care of that. Plus I dont have a mailbox toy. Great add from blizz if you ask me
Ya, its a huge convivence at a total fraction of the cost of the old one for sure.
can u imagine the absolute mount everest of cash they got thrown on them within the first hour of it beeing out, crazy shit, well i wont ever need such a mount bcs there is 100 people standing with it in town lol
Ya, it had to have been millions of dollars in the first day alone.
I play several mmo's and having a mount in the game shop is nothing new. I'm not buying this one but I have bought some really cool mounts in other games. I see why people are upset when we already spend 450 dollars every two years on a game and game time. yet if they take the time to make something like this people will buy it. if they ever make a bad ass mount I like id pay 50$ for it. I know it's nothing tangible and games don't last forever but to me its like going to the movies. I spend 40$ easily for 2 hours now. and the mounts in other games are a lot more expensive than this one. shoot I bought an outfit for 20$ in a different mmo lol. let alone the warcraft outfits for d4 which were 20$ also.
Ya when you start comparing it to just about any irl hobby wow is insanely cheap tbh.
I think adding action house to a mount was a mistake. Because now you have some no lifers sitting next to a mailbox who will instantly undercut you as soon as you make your auction. Like the Shadowlands legendaries for example. The only way to sell those if you were a normal player was to put them for 20k discount so the guy who would undercut you buys them from you.
That's been how the AH has worked far before BFA and this mount though brother.
Beautify put! Personally I think they did it bc they maybe jacked some stuff up and the unstable servers. Not unlike the real media... I'm sure they have a few more of these tricks up their sleeve. As someone who bought it in BfA that's how I feel! the value aspect of it. That being said I'm also happy others get a chance to get it, Im happy I don't have to be the AH b**** anymore I can take a break in raids and don't have to go in and out and in of dungeons. Everyone has it so I can really utilize the mailbox anyway.
I doubt they were just sitting on this thing waiting to release it during a time of bad press haha.
But its a funny coincidence for sure.
ive bought like 3 cash shop mogs from blizzard (dreadlord regalia, fireplume, and the valentines set recolor)
an AH mount just doesnt have value for me specially not at that price 😂
ya, me too. I have no interest in buying it, but its a cool looking mount!
I will be mad if a 90$ mount goes into the trader, that would be bullshit. Bring it back every few years, don’t make it available for a significantly easier to obtain in game currency
I feel like it's gonna happen. Not sure what they would get rid of this mount. Going to be losing money long term. There might be a reason for it. But maybe it's just to reintroduce it in the shop again every anniversary.
I'd pay 200 for a mount that had AH, guild bank, mog, and mail
Oh ya, well idk if a 5 seater is coming but maybe some day haha
instead of buying $90 brutosaur mount. why dont blizz put brutosaur mount into 12 months sub.. oh wait, theres a black cat mount.
Ya, they already had one.
If you spend $500 on wow tokens to buy a mount in bfa that’s on you
I think I laid out a really good case why its far more practical for most people to just buy the tokens. Please consider having a more nuanced approach to conversations on this channel then just saying "that's on you."
too bad the money they make from it wont actually be put into making the game better or fixing the many bugs still in the game..... so who really winning?
@@Thorkou what makes you so sure of that.
@@Thorkou Right but how are you sure that money isn't helping? Do you feel like bugs are new?
@heythereguysitsMetro the amount of bugs still in the game, aswell every new bugs after every Tuesday maintenance.
@heythereguysitsMetro cause if they were actually putting the money back into the there would 90% less bugs.
@@Thorkou How do you know for sure though, is my question?
I'm so excited, I bought two of them
What do you do with the second one?
I just think it’s bad to give a company that is releasing a broken patch $90 for a mount. That said, it’s way cheaper to spend IRL money instead of good farming. Even a minimum wage job is probably a better value for time than gold farming, unless you really like gold farming.
this right here is whty ill byy it when the game functional, they dont get a bonus for this dog water, when things are ironed out ill vote with my wallet
The patch really has nothing to do with the mount though. The expansion launch and all the stuff within it was spectacular so far. The mount is simply there for the anniversary, and as mentioned, 90 dollars is honestly not enough of a price tag for this item.
@@heythereguysitsMetro your logic in your video was sound, I have no argument with that particular case. My issue with the mount is that the game is already a paid service with a monthly fee. I think people who buy the mount are giving Blizzard money that they don't deserve. Relative to the price of wow tokens and gold farming though, $90 is a steal.
I think a $90 price tag would make more sense in a f2p game. Just from a consumer perspective, not taking into account equivalent past items in game. More importantly I personally dislike the Wow token / RMT. It puts a pretty direct monetary value on your time in game and thus devalues it (for me at least). I used to like "making money" with professions in WoW back in the day. Now it's just not interesting. I can work an hour extra at work and buy a token instead.
Ya, I can see that, but that conversation is LONG over. Token isn't going anywhere, and it does go a long way to staving off account stealing and gold selling.
In terms of the price tag, its honestly too low given the old mount's costs.
@@heythereguysitsMetro yeh, I know it's a long lost battle. Though with the current prices (again, not arguing cost/value of this particular item), I think the game should move towards a f2p model.
@@mwaffi why would they give up the extra money? There is just no reason to do it. Their job is to make money after all.
@@heythereguysitsMetro because they'd make more money from having more players play and whaling the whales. That's what most companies do these days. Though I'm not necessarily a huge fan of that approach either as it can get out of hand. Making it f2p would have benefits as well, though (= more players).
@@mwaffi so you believe you understand more about how to maximize their profits than the company who just sold millions of copies of a 90 dollar mount?
5 mil gold to a 90$ once in a lifetime deal. thank God u mentioned the 5 mil unlike those view farmers. thank God for you, my friend. I am buying the mount with farming gold.
@@Blackmongold good choice!
well least blizzard has money to fund upcoming wow expansions...which probably invest that money else where :)
like where?
The rage comes from the people that dropped 5mil even 10mil, knowing I got it for 1.5mil through the wow token.😂
I think that's a real complaint for sure. I just doubt that's where the animosity is coming from, given how few people seemed to have that old mount, vs how many people complain about it now.
@@heythereguysitsMetronot just the people who have it but all those who contributed gold or even real money for someone else to get it. Now a poor casual like me can just drop less than a 1/3 the prece and own a much more useful mount.
@@tomtom123123 Right, I mean I agree that's a key concern here. Just not that a lot of people complaining about it actually care about that perspective haha
@@heythereguysitsMetro1. It's been 5 years. Anyone who bought this mount has probably made that money back by now.
2. People got too caught up with the $90 price tag and forgot about being able to purchase it with in game gold. I mean I almost pulled the trigger with my wallet until I saw a vid that reminded me of the wow token.
3. In the 5 years the OG brutasaur came out I was conservative with my in-game spending, I don't even have professions in my toons. But I had some lucky drops that sold well and selling on the ah what ever I could. I somehow had enough to scrounge up for the mount.
All my toons are broke but I have a long-neck Boi now.
I know it's going to be seen as a major success for the company which means we'll be getting even more expensive mounts going forward. Personally I have no care when they release stuff like this and if someone wants to put that much money down on a mount go for it but when I see the game's patches being brought out in a buggy untested states and they launch this type of stuff is when I start to get a bit annoyed. On a side note there is a fundraising pack that they've launched with all these bundles and it sucks that it's being overshadowed by the 90$ and 30$ packs as it goes 100% to the charity.
Ya, I can agree with that last part for sure. Strange that they put them out together like this.
These people want to go back to playing in Garrisons again.
What you mean people who don't like going to the AH?
@@heythereguysitsMetro Basically, seems like I’m the only one who wants the capitol city to be relevant in an expansion
@@MikeyJ232 ya I feel ya. Luckily blizzard did too. They created such a great city it's insane.
The bruto is $120 AUD
@@andrewpaige9152 how much was the epic edition for Australian dollars?
Yup, seems like buying a jersey of your favoourite team... it's not worth all that money as a piece of clothing... but you support the team by paying the extortionate price.
Well said. Good example there.
i rant until i bought it....(to be fair i had 3 million gold doing nothing with em)
Ya you can always just use gold!
blizz only did this for a cash grab
Then why is it so cheap?