I saw a video that said feral cats in Australia are undergoing rapid evolution in size and getting much bigger to exploit the bigger prey that are so abundant and available to them.
@vinceveloce9897 The fact that when they go feral, their offspring get larger and larger. In some areas, they can reach 17kg and roughly 1.5m from the nose to the tip of the tail. That's a big kitty doing big, horrible things to the natives.
@@lachlanmartin5573 Thank you for imparting your unsolicited expertise. I am well aware of feral cats growing larger BUT they are still the same species this may be a hard notion for you to comprehend but it is a fact.
This wasn't the first time they have been found since they went "extinct" in 1912, in 1990 they found a dead one and a couple more alive since then but never multiples. This is the first time there have been a population of them found.
It sounds weird, but finding one or two doesn't mean the species isn't extinct. A population needs to be viable to not be extinct and one or two in a population isn't viable, especially when those two are both male or both female. That's why this population of 50+ is so important.
@@garymaidman625 Well, there's 'extinct' and there's 'functionally extinct'. This is the largest population discovered in recent times, but the species was officially declassified from extinction in 2013. Of course it's great news.... but it's not 'comparable to discovering the thylacine alive' as the presenters suggest.
I think it's because ''extinct'' gets thrown around as a scare tactic so often. Why did other species go extinct previously? Science doesn't have a good answer. But now everything is climate related and used as a way go control the human population and guilt you into being "green".
@@gregory3499 Hey, we've found a *bunch of supposedly extinct species still alive. The *coelacanth* was thought to have gone extinct *thousands of years* ago and turns out it's *still alive.*
@@davexenos9196 There is a kind of plan B. Anti cat fencing. Yes it exists, works and is as expensive as it sounds. Fences have been installed around some last stand habitats. Cats are then removed from the inner reserve. Outside of that though they are here to stay and reduction is all that can be done.
I live in South West WA, same state but not anywhere near the Pilbara region, and I saw a bird very similar to that just the other day in my local bushland. While I don't think it was the Night Parrot by any means, it was a small green parrot that I'd never seen before. Just a weird coincidence!
You might have seen a Western ground parrot (Pezoporus wallicus flaviventris) which is restricted to coastal SW Australia and also critically endangered (other non-endangered subspecies live in eastern Aus & Tas). It is closely related to the night parrot (Pezoporus occidentalis) and has very similar coloration. Very cool to spot one in the wild!
@@paulb1951 Well, I live in WA all my life too and everyone I know and every person I have heard have pronounced it pil-bruh. Seeing you haven't yet shown how you pronounce it, please do enlighten us.
the night parrot was rediscovered in 1979 they have been found in the pilbara western australia, lake eyre basin in south australia and douth western queensland. which is basically west, east and middle of australia. i believe the night parrots found in qld were on private grazing land and a cat exclusion zone was established to protect them.
This is great but a lot less shocking than if thylacines were discovered as per your comparison. Given it looks quite similar to other Australian native birds, you would have to be an expert to identify them. Whereas the Tassie Tiger is in the collective consciousness and still hasn't been found.
Agreed; small, rarely-seen, nocturnal desert bird inhabiting vast, open, uninhabited spaces of central australia covering 4 states being recorded at least every decade since 1979 is a very different proposition to medium-sized carnivorous mammal on rather small island with no confirmed sightings since the 1930's.
WE ARE LOSING MANY SPECIES OF OUR PARROTS EG HOODED PARROT ..PARADISE PARROT ORANGE BELLIED PARROT SWIFT PARROT I COULD GO ON BUT ITS TO DEPRESSING ....
Dingoes are not all over the mainland,we get a few reports of them south of the dingo fence,this has helped with the thylacine surviving iin South Australia and why there have been 100's of thylacine sightings since settlement.
It's not true that these birds hadn't been seen for 100 years. There have been MULTIPLE sightings of multiple birds and even live captures and dead birds found.
Btw this isn’t the first time since 1912, they found some since them but I’m pretty sure 50 is the most they’ve found so while it’s a great find, I wouldn’t call it the thylacine of birds
I remember when they announced the extinction of the night parrot. Incredible that these birds have only been found again after a hundred or so years. It was thought that the feral cat drove these to extinction.
No.... they've been found again after 1 year. There were recordings taken in 2023. Before that, they were recorded in 2015 and photographed in 2013. A dead one was found in the 1990's and they were first found to still be alive in 1979. As the guys said .... he "didn't get a chance to read the whole article" before going on camera to talk about it. Which might explain why they got it so horribly wrong. Maybe he'll get a job with Sky News in the future.
@@peterphillips5200 The aboriginal people have been in Australia at estimated 60,000 years. It's a well known fact that the dingo was a more recent arrival on Australian soil at about 5,000 years ago with Asian seafarers. It's thought they were responsible for the extinctions of the mainland thylacine and Tasmanian devils.
The Pilbara doesn't have much in the way of ferals. Its very remote and a very tough place to survive. Unfortunately the Kimberly's are seeing a few. And then there's the feral camels 🐫. Now they are a real problem
Yes, this is, even if understood correctly, an exciting development in research on the species - and I appreciate the enthusiasm you guys show. But you really should do at least a quick review of the basic facts relating to the species’ conservation status, so you don’t start babbling away and showing you really don’t know what you’re talking about. For reasons set out by other commenters here, No, the Night Parrot is not the thylacine of birds, and No, it hasn’t been “lost” for a hundred years (its continuing living existence was confirmed 34 years ago). The actual facts of the recent news about the Night Parrot, which has emerged in the last two or three months, are really intriguing - and for that very reason it’s all the more regrettable that anyone would publicize that news burdened with heaps of misinformation. That sort of thing can undermine the public’s baseline trust of news about science.
As a Colorado native, y'all always have New Belgium brewing " fat tire ale" any connection to Colorado for you gents or is it just a sponsor? With that said could have picked a better beer 😂 cheers!
Here's some interesting info for you Americans like Forrest, The night parrot was never extinct out in the diamontina region of western Queensland were my uncle farms on 40,000 hectare cattle station they would see an hear the so called extinct night parrot all the time but tell that to stupid people an parks and wildlife services 😂😂😂
The interesting thing about cats as an invasive species is that they're not actually a problem on their own. They can be easily kept in check by competition and predators. Things like coyotes, foxes, and mink will especially keep them down. But human presence provides them protection. Foxes are pretty adaptable to human presence yes, but the cat doesn't need to adapt to it at all. So us being there pushes their competition away. We also provide them more food. Not just from feeding them but also because rodents make great use of our homes. In wilder areas with fewer/no humans cats are nowhere near as prevalent because they don't have human presence providing them food and clearing out the competition. Australia being an exception of course because all of the native animals evolved to be slow as balls and simply can't compete with a quality eurasian animal.
@@jcallii If you watched the video you'd understand this was a continuation to the discussion being had. They mentioned that these birds were able to live because there was a predator to keep the birds predators in check. They're just expanding on that.
@@bolbyballinger That's not necessarily true. In Tasmania areas with healthy devil populations can have as much as a 60% reduction in feral cats, and foxes never even managed to become established in Tasmania despite release attempts
@@wonderbink8409 Didja check the dates on the Aus geographic reports? Reading beyond the first sentence, you'll find the first _population_ was rediscovered in 2013 and that prior to that, there were recordings, dead birds and confirmed sightings of _individuals_ in the 90's and 1970s....... so, yeah, they've really overblown it suggesting the bird was thought extinct up to this year. It just wasn't.
They found multiple populations over the last 15 years.
This is not new, this is just one of the largest population groups to be found.
How dare any mere mortal challenge their intelligence and knowledge 👌
I saw a video that said feral cats in Australia are undergoing rapid evolution in size and getting much bigger to exploit the bigger prey that are so abundant and available to them.
Apparently they are morphing in to their own kind of big cat
Probably the most destructive invasive predator in the world but people don’t want to talk about how to handle that problem.
Those Australian feral cats are a whole different animal from house cats. They can get as big as a younger Dingo!
They are the same species.
@@vinceveloce9897 You obviously don't understand the statement then.
@@lachlanmartin5573 Are you saying domestic cats don't behave like feral cats when it comes to killing natives?
@vinceveloce9897 The fact that when they go feral, their offspring get larger and larger. In some areas, they can reach 17kg and roughly 1.5m from the nose to the tip of the tail. That's a big kitty doing big, horrible things to the natives.
@@lachlanmartin5573 Thank you for imparting your unsolicited expertise. I am well aware of feral cats growing larger BUT they are still the same species this may be a hard notion for you to comprehend but it is a fact.
This wasn't the first time they have been found since they went "extinct" in 1912, in 1990 they found a dead one and a couple more alive since then but never multiples. This is the first time there have been a population of them found.
It's the second time a population has been found. The last time was 2013.
It sounds weird, but finding one or two doesn't mean the species isn't extinct. A population needs to be viable to not be extinct and one or two in a population isn't viable, especially when those two are both male or both female. That's why this population of 50+ is so important.
@@garymaidman625 Well, there's 'extinct' and there's 'functionally extinct'. This is the largest population discovered in recent times, but the species was officially declassified from extinction in 2013. Of course it's great news.... but it's not 'comparable to discovering the thylacine alive' as the presenters suggest.
@@anserbauer309 maybe just take it for what it is? A fantastic bit of news. People are so cynical all the time.
I think it's because ''extinct'' gets thrown around as a scare tactic so often. Why did other species go extinct previously? Science doesn't have a good answer. But now everything is climate related and used as a way go control the human population and guilt you into being "green".
This gives me hope for other species that we think are gone.
Lmao keep hoping
@@gregory3499 Hey, we've found a *bunch of supposedly extinct species still alive. The *coelacanth* was thought to have gone extinct *thousands of years* ago and turns out it's *still alive.*
@@gregory3499 what a poor attempt at trolling your channel is.
Unicorns
Probably a lot of them
We have similar looking nocturnal parrot in New Zealand.Its called a Kakapo
@@shannonthompson8024 It actually does look like the kakapo!
@@1legend517 Looks very similar, but it must have a much lower BMI since it looks like the Aussie ones can fly.
Not to be macabre, but they should hire a bunch of hunters to cleanse the surrounding area of invasive predators.
Not macabre at all part of conservation.
That is actually happening both legitimately as well as by other hunters.
Cats are happily hunted on many Australian farms
That would probably work in a country, say the size Ireland. However, Australia is a little bit bigger than that. Do you have a plan B?
@@davexenos9196 There is a kind of plan B.
Anti cat fencing. Yes it exists, works and is as expensive as it sounds.
Fences have been installed around some last stand habitats. Cats are then removed from the inner reserve.
Outside of that though they are here to stay and reduction is all that can be done.
Cats,cane toads, rabbits, deer, and pigs were the worst things to be introduced to Australia.
and rats/mice
And foxes...
Dogs, goats, geckos, camels, horses, donkey's, banteng, water buffalo and a a few deer species.
@@Vivianblue. Cats and the red fox have caused so many small and medium sized animal extinctions.
@@Vivianblue. There's some speculation that some introduced species are actually having positive effects on the environment.
I live in South West WA, same state but not anywhere near the Pilbara region, and I saw a bird very similar to that just the other day in my local bushland. While I don't think it was the Night Parrot by any means, it was a small green parrot that I'd never seen before. Just a weird coincidence!
Contact uwa
You might have seen a Western ground parrot (Pezoporus wallicus flaviventris) which is restricted to coastal SW Australia and also critically endangered (other non-endangered subspecies live in eastern Aus & Tas). It is closely related to the night parrot (Pezoporus occidentalis) and has very similar coloration. Very cool to spot one in the wild!
Dingoes are listed as native in Australia! Once again, dingoes are proving the incredible and vital role that they play in our ecosystem!
Exactly! Dingoes should never have been persecuted like they are, and with the poison 1080... don't get me started!
My family is from West Australia. You say it "Pill-bra".
I live in WA and you’re wrong 😂
@@paulb1951 It's Pill-bruh, but it's defo a two syllable pronunciation. The way he wrote it is close enough, I certainly knew what he meant.
@@utha2665 ok you tell me how to pronounce somewhere in the state I live in, then in a region I actually lived in for 3 yeah. Enjoy your day bruh 😂
@@paulb1951 Well, I live in WA all my life too and everyone I know and every person I have heard have pronounced it pil-bruh. Seeing you haven't yet shown how you pronounce it, please do enlighten us.
@ you type like a Chinese bot and I’m supposed to believe you live in WA 😂
Great pod guys
Rats kill more birds then cats .They eat the whole clutch of eggs and the parents fly away even at night .
I love this video, thank you
Awesome news boys!
Thylacines arent extinct either. Many sightings mainland Australia and Tasmania.
None confirmed.
Alot of Bigfoot and ghost sitings too but no photos of them either.
the night parrot was rediscovered in 1979 they have been found in the pilbara western australia, lake eyre basin in south australia and douth western queensland.
which is basically west, east and middle of australia.
i believe the night parrots found in qld were on private grazing land and a cat exclusion zone was established to protect them.
Vans shorts and that hat are quite the fashion statement.😂😂😂
I seen them it shows how little amount of people look for birds and know what they are
Popped up randomly but I watched and enjoyed the yarn ✌️
This is great but a lot less shocking than if thylacines were discovered as per your comparison.
Given it looks quite similar to other Australian native birds, you would have to be an expert to identify them.
Whereas the Tassie Tiger is in the collective consciousness and still hasn't been found.
Agreed; small, rarely-seen, nocturnal desert bird inhabiting vast, open, uninhabited spaces of central australia covering 4 states being recorded at least every decade since 1979 is a very different proposition to medium-sized carnivorous mammal on rather small island with no confirmed sightings since the 1930's.
Dude in the middle is tweaking hard
3 double espressos in
Your attempt at pilbara was cute 😅🇦🇺
They also rediscovered a dragon in Australia recently
That's a lot of leg.
Absolutely beautiful bird.
I'm pretty sure I've seen them green birds flying around at work from time to time because they always catch my eye for they're vibrance in colour.
I hope they bring back the Carolina Parakeet.
It’s all because of John Marston. Daggum cowboy done killed all of em.
I feel cheated the U.S. doesn't have its native parrots anymore.
@LadyhawksLairDotCom same. I'm getting ready to move to the Carolinas. I'd love to be able to see them.
WE ARE LOSING MANY SPECIES OF OUR PARROTS EG HOODED PARROT ..PARADISE PARROT ORANGE BELLIED PARROT SWIFT PARROT I COULD GO ON BUT ITS TO DEPRESSING ....
The Night-Parrot Cometh
To say it like an Aussie ... Pilbara = Pil buh rah :-)
Dingoes are not 'all over already', look at the dingoe fence and the side thats controlled with dingoes vs the side that isn't!
Dingoes are not all over the mainland,we get a few reports of them south of the dingo fence,this has helped with the thylacine surviving iin South Australia and why there have been 100's of thylacine sightings since settlement.
there's a youtube video called the call of the night parrot that shows the queensland population.
Please check out the new thermal footage of the supposed Thylacine in Mainland Australia, it's up on TH-cam
this one th-cam.com/video/6FzxSBefU6w/w-d-xo.html
Interesting footage..
Its a fox but worth a look
It's not true that these birds hadn't been seen for 100 years. There have been MULTIPLE sightings of multiple birds and even live captures and dead birds found.
Btw this isn’t the first time since 1912, they found some since them but I’m pretty sure 50 is the most they’ve found so while it’s a great find, I wouldn’t call it the thylacine of birds
I wonder if it is related to the NZ Kakapo ?
When an animal has been somewhere for that long, can it really still be considered invasive?
Its pronounced pill brah(no joke)
I was gonna make same comment.
I remember when they announced the extinction of the night parrot. Incredible that these birds have only been found again after a hundred or so years. It was thought that the feral cat drove these to extinction.
No.... they've been found again after 1 year. There were recordings taken in 2023. Before that, they were recorded in 2015 and photographed in 2013. A dead one was found in the 1990's and they were first found to still be alive in 1979. As the guys said .... he "didn't get a chance to read the whole article" before going on camera to talk about it. Which might explain why they got it so horribly wrong. Maybe he'll get a job with Sky News in the future.
@@anserbauer309 Sounds like an ABC type.
acoustic technology lol AKA a microphone
Dingos only live in the Northern parts of Australia we dont get any in the south at all
@@johnathangoldsworthy Not as common on the other side of the dingo fence.
@@johnathangoldsworthy there are Alpine Dingoes who inhabit the Australian Alps in the south.
WANNA BET AS A DOG TRAPPER I KNOW FOR A FACT YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG
No way Forrest can't day pilbary right Hahahahaah
No way jake can`t write the word say right Hahahahaah
Dingoes have been around for 40 thousand years not four thousand,
@@peterphillips5200 No they haven't. Roughly about 5,000 years ago they arrived in Australia. Before that, the thylacine was top predator.
@1legend517 they came over on a land bridge with our first people from Indonesia/new Guinea but please tell me how you came to this conclusion.
@@peterphillips5200 The aboriginal people have been in Australia at estimated 60,000 years. It's a well known fact that the dingo was a more recent arrival on Australian soil at about 5,000 years ago with Asian seafarers. It's thought they were responsible for the extinctions of the mainland thylacine and Tasmanian devils.
@@peterphillips5200 They didn't arrive in Australia with the aboriginal people. They came much later with with travellers from south east Asia.
What a completely misleading video, it’s not extinct.
Uh oh let’s hope they do not expose where so that people do not start trying catch them
Wish the Carolina Parakeet would come back 😪 😢 😔
The Pilbara doesn't have much in the way of ferals. Its very remote and a very tough place to survive. Unfortunately the Kimberly's are seeing a few. And then there's the feral camels 🐫. Now they are a real problem
I travel there regularly, see cats near the highway often
I believe Forrest could add another zero to how long he said Aboriginals came to Australia.
Totally screw lol 😅😂
Yes, this is, even if understood correctly, an exciting development in research on the species - and I appreciate the enthusiasm you guys show. But you really should do at least a quick review of the basic facts relating to the species’ conservation status, so you don’t start babbling away and showing you really don’t know what you’re talking about. For reasons set out by other commenters here, No, the Night Parrot is not the thylacine of birds, and No, it hasn’t been “lost” for a hundred years (its continuing living existence was confirmed 34 years ago).
The actual facts of the recent news about the Night Parrot, which has emerged in the last two or three months, are really intriguing - and for that very reason it’s all the more regrettable that anyone would publicize that news burdened with heaps of misinformation. That sort of thing can undermine the public’s baseline trust of news about science.
As a Colorado native, y'all always have New Belgium brewing " fat tire ale" any connection to Colorado for you gents or is it just a sponsor? With that said could have picked a better beer 😂 cheers!
They are lucky enough to be sponsored by them 😃
@@wolfpecker5710 yeah the New Belgium crew are some good people.
@@reogroenewald6361 nice, that’s cool! As a Utah native, they make phenomenal beer too haha!
@@wolfpecker5710 yeah their all over the world. Lol Odell's runoff red IPA is a spring release. Simply amazing check it out.
If they weren't nocturnal there would have been loads more sightings over the years
Each time the guy on the left just repeats what was just said.
Whish they would find the Paradise Parrot now that would be something was decimated like our Carolina parakeet
Dingo ate the cats!
@@SmedleyDouwright They're eating the cats, they're eating the dogs!
@@1legend517 They're eating the pets.
Ummmmmm, this is very old news.
Certainly excellent news, but I read about this over a year ago!
Here's some interesting info for you Americans like Forrest,
The night parrot was never extinct out in the diamontina region of western Queensland were my uncle farms on 40,000 hectare cattle station they would see an hear the so called extinct night parrot all the time but tell that to stupid people an parks and wildlife services 😂😂😂
Why is one of the paintings crooked? It’s kind of distracting if your me lol 😂
to assist, its pronounced PIL-BRA (dont ask me why).
Now keep the cats and rats and mongoose away!!
Australia doesn't have mongoose. The dingos ate them all.
LET'S GOOOOOOO
we shouldn’t trust this „thylacine hunter“, he falls for fake shit
I want one
Gday lads it's pronounced pill-bra
And now the bird flu will get them.
4,000 or 40,000 yrs for aboriginals?
Why is bros shorts so short?Doing a pod in booty shorts is wild af
I wish forrest would unlearn blah bla bla bla bla
The way get said Pilbara is stupid
animals are animals, birds are birds, podcasts for dummies ??????????????????
The interesting thing about cats as an invasive species is that they're not actually a problem on their own.
They can be easily kept in check by competition and predators. Things like coyotes, foxes, and mink will especially keep them down.
But human presence provides them protection. Foxes are pretty adaptable to human presence yes, but the cat doesn't need to adapt to it at all. So us being there pushes their competition away.
We also provide them more food. Not just from feeding them but also because rodents make great use of our homes.
In wilder areas with fewer/no humans cats are nowhere near as prevalent because they don't have human presence providing them food and clearing out the competition.
Australia being an exception of course because all of the native animals evolved to be slow as balls and simply can't compete with a quality eurasian animal.
None of the species you listed as means to keep cat in check are native to Australia.
@@jcallii If you watched the video you'd understand this was a continuation to the discussion being had. They mentioned that these birds were able to live because there was a predator to keep the birds predators in check. They're just expanding on that.
@@lobsters12111 none of that has to do with coyotes, foxes or especially a mink lmao It's Australia & an Australian parrot.
@@jcallii Read the last paragraph of my comment again.
I literally already pointed that out.
@@bolbyballinger That's not necessarily true. In Tasmania areas with healthy devil populations can have as much as a 60% reduction in feral cats, and foxes never even managed to become established in Tasmania despite release attempts
Bs. And more clickbait
How is it BS when a quick google search confirms that the Australian Geographic has reported the exact same findings?
Get a new hobby Greg ya looser.
@@wonderbink8409 Didja check the dates on the Aus geographic reports? Reading beyond the first sentence, you'll find the first _population_ was rediscovered in 2013 and that prior to that, there were recordings, dead birds and confirmed sightings of _individuals_ in the 90's and 1970s....... so, yeah, they've really overblown it suggesting the bird was thought extinct up to this year. It just wasn't.
@wonderbink8409 bs