In book 3 it says hermione is white. She’s also white in all of the book covers. I have no problem with a black hermione but you can’t say that you never said that when you did
It makes Rowling look so bad, and even racist in a weird way. Just saying one of your characters is a person of color doesnt automatically make the book diverse. Just like having black friends doesnt make a person not racist.
@@smileitsjustagame2937 it might make her bad because she turns her opinions around to fit a "woke" (I hate that phrase) image, but she is by no means at all a racist. Shes not trying to say her book is diverse, she was just trying to make a point that it doesn't matter
I still think Hermione was never black in her head. She actually describes her face as white many times in the books. But only now wants to change her appearance.
The first time I realized Snape could be a good guy was in the third movie when he stood infront of the trio to protect them against Lupin in his werewolf form
I agree I was like ...wait did he ...? No... wait ...yes he just tried to protect them 😍 and then I liked him ...then he killed Dumbledore and I hated him ...but at the end I love him ....always !
I got a hint he was a "good/grey area" character in the first movie/book. He helped protect the stone and he threatened the bad guy. I was mostly on the fence though until that moment in the 3rd when he tried to protect the kids.
I never had a big issue with gay Dumbledore, it's not a major retcon, Dumbledore was never married anyways so it was always a possibility as long as she doesn't make his whole character about being gay then fine, the black hermione thing was brazen though, to me the most ridiculous retcon in history and truly an author writing fanfics of her own novels, it's insane.
@@liquidsnake6879 no one has but she suddenly come up with all this things is really funny She just trying to please sjw but they still call her transophobic
J.K. Rowling these days be like: Ginny had intense relationship with Nagini Snape and Voldemort are actually transgenders Ron was actually asian Dumbledore and Grindleward are actually sisters Harry's real name is actually Holly Hermione is actually a bisexual black woman Sirius real name is actually White Draco owns a gay bar Neville was actually an elf Edit: Prison Mike was Sirius cellmate
Point 3 is actually a mistake on Rowling's part. In at least three instances it is quite heavily implied, if not to say stated that Hermione is light-skinned and probably caucasian. 1) In "Prisoner of Azkaban", when Harry is reunited with Hermione, it is noted that Hermione visibly tanned over the summer, after her vacation in Southern France. This would imply that Hermione regular skintone is rather light, for it to be this noticable. 2) Again, in "Prisoner of Azkaban", we have the following allusion to a light skin colour for Hermione. In Chapter 21, Hermione's Secret, page 293, we find the following phrase: "Hermione's white face was sticking out from behind a tree." While this is a result of the fear and anxiety she is feeling at that moment in time, when phrased like this, it is easy to assume that her fear makes her look even paler than usual. Which in turn would mean, she is pale-skinned usually. 3) In "Half-Blooded Prince", Chapter 5, "An Excess of Phlegm", we find the heaviest implication that Hermione is in fact pale of skin: "But when Harry arrived downstairs ten minutes later, fully dressed and carrying his empty breakfast tray, it was to find Hermione sitting at the kitchen table in great agitation, while Mrs Weasley tried to lessen her resemblance to half a panda." Seeing how they were trying to cover up a black eye, and seeing what a panda looks like, such comparison only makes sense if Hermione is indeed white. Personally, I don't give a shit how the theater writer decided to cast her, I'm all for artistic freedom and freedom of interpretation and if Rowling would simply have stated that she has no problem with said casting, I wouldn't have even bothered giving it a second thought. But saying that the novels never alluded to Hermione's skin color is nonsense.
AGREED. Rowling also specifies every time a character is black (Lee Jordan, Kingsley Shacklebolt, Dean Thomas, etc.). So why not do this EVER for Hermione, who appears hundreds of times more than those side characters? I'm all for artistic freedom, too. No problem in casting a black actress to play a character previously described as white, especially if the character's race doesn't matter to her arc and story. But pretending that she hadn't written Hermione as white made me think a lot less of JKR.
@@exitpursued6690 Agree with all these comments. Also, if you look up Rowlings own drawing of the characters, Hermione is white. She's made herself look really silly and I've lost a lot of respect for her.
BjornV1994 Exactly! It’s like saying that the Patil sisters were never Indian. At least Dumbledore being gay has canon in the books due to the description of his feelings towards Grindlewald. I can actually believe that but Hermione is not and never was meant to be black.
Actually Hermione is described several times as having white features, especially her eyes. And Rowling confirmed in the 90's Hermione looks like she does on the original covers (she's white on every cover). So yeah keep pushing the anti-white agenda, you're just proving your racism towards whites.
She could be black, but it was JK Rowling's intention for her to be white when writing the books. But there is nothing wrong with portraying Hermione as black or thinking of Hermione as black if you want to... that definitely is not being racist toward white people. Hermione's skin was never directly specified at first, so many people assumed her to be white. And if Angelina Johnson or Dean Thomas' skin color had not been specified, they probably would assumed to be white too. The fact that people immediately assume every character to be white unless specified is an underlying problem in writing (although JK Rowling later eluded to Hermione being white by referring to her paleness, she could have been any other race when first introduced).
Ron and hermione were fantastic together IN THE BOOKS the movies ruined Rons character so badly I can understand why someone wouldn’t ship them if they never read the books
Totally agree. To me, Harry and Hermione would be too "vanilla" of a couple of they were together, unlike with Ron where their difference makes things interesting.
Honestly I love them in movies too. I mean, it's been hinted ever since her reluctance to hug Ron at the end of Chamber of Secrets. I've never in a million years even thought of movie Harry and Hermione together cuz I always registered the fact that those two can be just great friends.
And in the books Romione makes no sense. Ron was never jealous of Harry hugging Hermione until the sixth book. So you can't say Hermione liked Ron. Also Hermione was not jealous of Ron falling in love with Fleur in the Goblet of 🔥 So Harry and Hermione make more sense in the books and movies BOTH
@@CreativeUsernameEh yeah but even in fiction you cant go against already written material. Imagine if Marvel suddenly says Peter Parker is gay for Captain America. Lol.
Its not. It was the same for me. While the books doesn't spell out her race.. They cast Emma for the part. It just seems off.. To later find out... That BTW.... That might have been off.
Yeah, I don't hate it, but it just feels weird. I wish the original cast would make a movie out of the Cursed Child and that J.K Rowling would write it all on her own. When you watch Cursed Child, you can tell Rowling didn't write it by herself.
emanuelle cornelisse I think it's pushing it to be honest, and I also think that it was done more to be politically correct and make sure to appear to be all inclusive and everything, because the book does talk about her bushy brown hair so she definitely wasn't full black no matter what in the second book it also talks about her when she came back from the vacation in the south of France, it's specifically described her as being "Very brown" and it also talked about freckles In my opinion, she was white this was just something that they came up with later for the reasons that I said and she went along with it because why not she couldn't really respond and say "no she was white it can't be a black actress" it's not like she could say that
OlGalJess no this was a stretch just to be more politically correct, because the book does talk about her brown bushy hair so she definitely was not full block that is for sure and it also talks about her looking really brown and freckly when she came back from her vacation so she was definitely on the later end of the stick biracial even would be pushing it but let's be real it's a white girl
Haven't seen the new ones performance cos I can never get a hold of tickets 😢😢 but Emma Watson is a perfect fit for Hermione as she plays it so well 🙌❤️
I've never seen the cursed child play and I'm not racist or anything but you've got to admit it is kind of strange the actress who played Hermione was black, especially considering they tried very hard to make the players look like their movie-counterparts.
why would people only know that Voldemort and Harry are distant related because Rowling has told them after the books were already out? It´s said in the books that Voldemort was a distant relative of Cadmus Peverell and Harry of Ingotus Peverell. I find it more interesting that Harry is related to Salazar Slytherin.
it´s not but it`s mentioned that Voldemort is....and since Voldemort is also related to Cadmus peverell and Harry is related to Ingots Peverell, and since these two are brothers it means Harry is also related to Salazar Slytherin
Most people think writers have the entire book stuck in their head before writing it and then only have to put it on paper. Boy, they couldn't be more wrong.
Andries Velten trueee. Tbh I feeling like while reading the order of the Phoenix, J.K. Was making stuff up as she went. Still my fav book in the series
I wasn't happy with a black Hermoine either, but because she was black but because we all grew up with a white Hermoine and now all the sudden she is black. The change didn't make sense
And imagine the pain of all the children trying to audition for the role of Rose. "Oh, you can't play Rose because you're not black." All because of a change that came out of nowhere.
Agreed. It's not a racist thing. It's about keeping characters consistent. It'd be just a strange to me if she were original cast as black all these years and was suddenly now white. I'd have the same issue with it. The only difference is that people would cry racism when they don't here because of the double standard. It seems to me this was done as a political statement.
MoonstonePearl21 Well I disagree. I think your white guilt is showing and though you say it has nothing to do with racism, you do express some light undertones of it. Because for one, J.K. never confirmed Hermione was white, and in the books it never stated she was white and in fact it heavily implied she wasnt white either. You also seem to forget that J.K had this set in stone waaaaay before the books developed, so NO it wasn't a political statement, its just you projecting your hate towards political correctness and your distaste for liberals. Anyone who isnt bothered by this can read through your sugar coating, but what ever I guess. Join the bandwagon I guess lol
Repuglibe SandersVonRubio The book stated she was white several times: When Hermione and the Wesleys went to the bookshop? (not sure which shop it was) They met Mister Malfoy who asked if Hermione was one of Arthurs and Mollys children. Why would he ask that if she was black? Two white people don't have black children. So she must have been white. After a vacation she came back with tanned skin and lots of freckles. If a black person comes back from a vacation in a sunny country they are usually not described as tanned (normally their skin color doesn't change that much) "To Harry’s surprise, Hermione turned a very deep shade of pink at these words." Black people blush but they don't turn pink. Hermiones mother is described as a pale brunette with green eyes. So we know her mother is white. Hermione could be mixed at best. Emma Watson is a white actress. J.K. Rowling proved of her and never corrected anyone in the years the movie was filmed. So she approved of Hermione being white. I think Hermione being black is great but you have to understand that people are confused at first. We thought she was white now she is suddenly black that i confusing. Nothing more.
I wouldn't like Harry and Hermione together. That would've been too typical cos he's the main character and Hermione the main female character it's likely that they end up together. But I am not a supporter of this cos Ron would have just been the funny unnessecary guy in the group and it would have just shown that only the main characters get the "jackpot".
In the cursed child , they made Hermione pair with Padma Patil instead in an alternate reality. And she becomes a frustrated dada teacher. I am not against Lesbians but I think J.K Rowling is going out of her way to inject sjw agenda where it's not needed. It's laughable because in the entire series there was no hint of her being a homosexual.
In your head canon, he can be! What Rowling doesn't realize is that IF IT ISN'T IN THE BOOKS THEN IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!! Once a creator releases something it NO LONGER belongs to them. Anything outside of the book or movie is open to audience interpretation, period.
I think he couldn't of even if he wanted to. He was a child thrown into war, so he gave up being a child to fight a genocidal maniac as he was forced to by every adult in his life. I think Harry would've _liked_ to step away from that, but he was too far gone to just give it all up.
If Hermione's skin color is never addressed in the books (honestly, I don't recall anyone having a designated skin color), why didn't they find someone of mixed heritage to play her...because it didn't come to matter until they cast a black actress to play her in the stage play. Why was Lavender Brown, who WAS a young black girl in the first two movies, suddenly transformed into a blonde, blue eyed, white girl for Ron's love interest? That is relevant in the context of the books/movies.
Lavender Brown in the books was white, but never described. so they just casted a black girl for her, then in a later book its revealed she's white, so they got a white girl to recast her. just a fuck up on the casting issues prior lol
So keep her black in the casting as a deviation from the source material, instead of suddenly changing her to be white, unless there's a major plot reason to do so (i.e. she gets badly sunburned, her character's history in northern European nobility becomes important, etc).
Jon Idoncair I think the point still stands, if it wouldn’t matter with Hermione it shouldn’t with Lavender either. Or perhaps the Lavender one was more like Flitwick went from the movie creator’s goblin version into Rowlings actually envisioned of him being merely a short human.
@I Am Groot J.K Rowling: Hermione was a Nigerian vampire the whole time, just hiding it with magic. That is why she could hypnotize professors into giving her a time turner. She was actually 200 years old when she went to Hogwarts. She pretended to just be good at reading when actually she just had mostly already understood the material from her long life. When she became minister she was discovered and turned back to human.
I love Snape’s character. I mean sure he did bad things and all but that’s what makes him great. It’s not like he’s perfect or anything though he’s the perfect mixture of hero and villain. That makes him stand out above all other characters. Plus his troubled past might have attributed towards his emotional resentment towards some characters but even with his flaws, he managed to be courageous and bold towards the end of the series. And sure he got jealous and angry sometimes and even leaned towards the dark path but he came back to do the right thing every time; his above mentioned qualities are some of the most common. His ordinary qualities are in fact the reason that he’s outstanding.
I enjoy him as a character because he is enigmatic throughout the series and is one of the most flawed and interesting characters in the whole series. However, I don't consider him outstanding as a person. I have no problem with people who do, I guess it all comes down to what stands out most for you, the reader. I can't get past his years of verbal abuse and cold anger towards children, let alone how incredibly mean he was to Harry and Neville specifically. Yeah, his home life was seemingly terrible, and the girl he "loved" (to me it seems more like he was infatuated with her, but again just my opinion) ended up with his bully and was then killed by the very group he joined to feel like he belonged, BUTTTTTT I feel like he had every opportunity to turn over a new leaf or gain perspective through the things that happened to/around him, but he didn't. He stayed bitter and angry and cold. Circumstances mean a lot, but they're not an excuse when you're that old and taking personal responsibility is more meaningful to me.
A- I like Hermione as an independent strong woman, but if I had to pair her with one it would be Ron. B- To be honest, I'd be okay with Arthur death if it means that Remus or Sirius would live, yes it would be sad for the Weasley' but they have a mother and each other, Harry has no one
While I don't disagree I must add that Arthur is the bread winner for the Weasley family so with his death they would of been worse off. I hate that Fred or anyone really had to die but I do believe that Arthur was spared for a reason.
Eadlum Kirke Really? I've read Cursed Child only 1 time (cause I really didn't like it), so I can 't remember that part. But thank you for telling me. :)
Samire J I agree, it felt like I was reading a fanfic. I never really enjoyed the Cursed Child as much as I enjoyed reading the HP series,. Probably one of the worst HP book I've red.
You know, I feel like JK thinks that she can make up things about the wizarding world just because she's written the series. Yes, I know this sentence seems kinda crazy, but everyone knows that Hermione is white. I have no problem with black people, if that's what u think, but JK Rowling wrote about Hermione's "pale skin" and also her "white skin" multiple times throughout the series, so saying that she never made any reference to her skin colour in novel is just bs. And pale and white skin can show that a character is afraid, but it also proves that Hermione Granger is WHITE. JK can't make everything up just so people think she's a really great person (which she naturally is, I'm sure). She can't rewrite what has been written. To have written so many wonderful books, I would have expected her to actually have given some thought into what information she gives us on the wonderful world that she created. And I'm not overreacting, guys, I just don't like when people lie (or do anything alike). I guess it's my zodiac sign's fault.....
Yeah Dumbledore being gay was crazy, I mean who would have thought, one of the most powerful wizards in the world and he’s gay....because sexual orientation is so relevant to his magical abilities * sarcasm
The problem with Dumbledore being gay is that it was handled poorly. It is not mentioned once in the books and most people didn't notice on their own. But a bigger issue is that Rowling didn't allow Dumbledore any relationship after Grindelwald. If it was no big deal to be gay in the wizarding world then it would have been completely normal to have same-sex relationships. Instead Dumbledore is not allowed another romance beyond his first. There are no other mention of same-sex coupling in the books. During the Yule ball it would have been the perfect moment to show inclusion. But nothing. All pairs are opposite sex and not one boy tries to ask Harry. So I don't buy Rowling's pandering when she didn't make any effort to properly include lgbt elements.
I mean... Rowling probably just wanted points for being "so progressive". Many people will never even know about Dumbledore being gay unless they come across it on the internet. There was never any hints to Dumbledores sexuality in any of the books.
The personal lives of the teachers were not discussed at all in the books (except Snape's at the end, which was a crucial point). Otherwise there would be 70 not only 7 books. Sooo, really, I believe it was not necessary. Perhaps she just didn't think of all these aspects when writing, because it was not the point of this story. Maybe some more "hidden" messages would be fine, but the book was full enough with everything to put in "unnecessary" info that Harry didn't really need.
Atlas Absentee I thought Dumbledore was gay simply from reading the books. And I was like 12 at the time. Like damn son, the signs were always there. But in saying that he's the headmaster!! Why the hell would we the audience be privy to such info? It's not like the characters are going to randomly discuss the love lives of their teachers!
I'm okay with Hermione being black, mixed, or whatever, but I hate how Rowling revealed it, like... 'well, I never said she was white ;)' -Yeah, you approved a lot of countries' cover art with a white Hermione. Just be okay with a black Hermione adaptation instead of playing coy with your intentions
batts1153 in my opinion this is just to be politically correct because the book does talk about her looking really brown and frankly when she came back from her vacation in the south of France with her parents it also talks about brown bushy hair several times so she definitely was not completely block the biracial Siri is a possibility but even then I think it's pushing it I also think when the author made for certain characters gay or whatever I do think that that was done later as an afterthought I hate to say it and I am the biggest fan of the series but I do think that there has been a lot of jumping on the bandwagon fifth to try to be politically correct and inclusive The only thing left is for her to say that Neville had a learning disability :-) that's coming
My only issue with it is consistency. I don't care about the race of the characters, but once you have one established in film, I don't think that should be changed in them. It's inconsistent and confusing. It's different for stage shows because a lot of different people play the same role. I agree. I don't like how this was done. It seems like she was just trying to make some sort of statement.
The Spaniard cover of the 3rd book shows a white skinned, fair haired, blue eyed Hermione...It's so rich having adaptations of race or whatever, so yeah, I also wanted Rowling not to "play coy", as you said it.
And she approved Emma Watson for the movies. I rarely pay attention to anything other than the books, and they have plenty of inconsistencies and errors. She even admitted that she made mistakes in later books owing to not reviewing the prior books before writing.
i think ron and hermoine were great together. proves that couples are a mirror of each other. got a bit of a hang with it when fortunately he adopted some of hermoine's clever thinking and hermoine on he's clumsyness at times. ✌✌✌😊😊
Ron and Hermione remind of Arthur and Molly Weasley. Arthuf and Ron would be the fun parents anfñd less strict while Molly and Hermione would be the serious and strict parent but very caring
Honestly I don't think JKR has even read her own freaking books at least not recently. Hermione is very clearly pale-skinned with buckles and said over and over again. The only time her skin tone is mentioned as being Brown is after summer and friends with her family at which point she would probably have a skin tan just like any other Anglo-Saxon red-haired girl. I'm sure the actress who plays Hermione in the stage play is a lovely person but the simple fact of the matter is that this is a British book and there are very few people in the UK prior to to the year 1990 who would not have been a pale skin complexion. The primary influx populations were from India and other parts of the former Empire now I could see her one of these parents possibly being part Hindi a several of generations back on her having a perhaps more Asian looking face but her skin complexion would still be very pale. The books popularity in America and the racial b******* that happens over here as the reason JKR said that her mind wasn't necessarily White when her rice and freckles were clearly established to begin with.
Also, At first Brown was a black girl but was changed to white one when she became Ron's love interest. Why did they change her race? Because Rowling outright told them that she was in fact white. Despite never mentioning it in the books. She clearly pictures them (and draws them) with race in mind.
Steven Nguyen Rowling makes stuff up to please liberals. Hermione is described as white throughout the entire series and Rowling picked Emma Watson out. Then Dumbledore is gay not because he was actually gay in the books but because Rowling made it up to be PC and please the liberals
.. What is Hindi? LoL. Westerns keep giving us new identities. Hindi is a language. Hindu is religion and the term you are looking for is Bhartiya. People from Bharat. Bharat = India.
Harry Potter was a wonderful series which made my childhood a lot magical, but all this extra unnecessary information Rowling is giving out now is just spoiling her own work. I dont want to know what happened with their kids, not interested in crimes of Grindelwald (tbh the fantastic beast series is very boring), not interested in knowing the sexual orientation and skin colour of any characters. For me Harry Potter ended at the seventh book itself. Now dont ruin our good memories Rowling !
If you hadn't seen, the western world destroys everything it cannot transform into diversity and inclusiveness. If it's not multi gendered trans multi-faced unidentified lifeform, it simply is racist
It's not crazy it's just she announced it when her sales were most likely dropping and the cheapest way possible is to try to Pander to a different demographic. And hence when the books and so where the movies done oh by the way Dumbledore's gay. BS style of Revelation because that's when her sales would naturally start to drop on books and merchandise. So do the lazy thing instead of picking up the pen again just make some out of context Revelations of characters the open up purchasing to a newer demographic.
@@Doctor_Odin I mean, I don't think she was exactly strapped for cash...and she mentioned it way back in 2008 when there was no diversity pressure and revealing it actually got her a lot of backlash. What is sketchy though is the Fantastic Beasts movies just totally ignoring it now.
1. Harry and Hermoine have no chemistry, particularly in the books, where Ron and Hermoines is so clear 2. Harry and Voldemort being related shouldn't have even been an honourable mention because Dumbledore specifies it in the book to Harry, so it's not something J.K. Rowling said after the books were out
I think that in this rather small community everybody is somehow related, in Harry's case it goes back to the Peverells, they lived centuries ago, so there must be more relatives from that branch walking around.
I’m certainly biased (as you can guess from my profile picture xD), but imo Snape was simply the most human and _realistic_ character of the saga: he has plenty of flaws, which are compensated by some redeeming qualities; he can be petty and vindictive like Rowling said...but protecting someone whom you hate and despise (Harry) is much harder than protecting those you love.
+NAJ P. Jackson Harry Potter is my second favorite character, but there are many times when he acts impulsively and recklessly just for the sake of it; he can also be frankly a bit obtuse, not seeing things in front of his eyes.
So you think a man abusing an eleven year old just because he is the son of the man that married the woman you were obsessed is no grounds to be hated?
Maybe J.K. Rowling didn't think she was specifying Hermione race, but I don't know a black girl, or biracial girl with light brown hair. I think fans believed that Hermione was black because she had big frizzy hair. I have white family members that have big frizzy hair, this kind of hair isn't specific to any one race of people. Blacks, whites, Asians, and Latinos can have big frizzy hair.
One of my History teachers was as white as a vampire but had African-like frizzy hair, which was very special. It is very rare, but it can happen. She also was a clever and very classy woman.
also adding to that, in book three in the beginning, Hermione is described as returning from vacation quite tanned... that being said, who describes a colored person as coming back from vacation as tan? :/
I have a friend who has black facial features and that kind of hair texture but is really light, has freckles, and naturally has brownish, reddish hair. A lot of different combinations can happen when you have mixed race kids. Sometimes they can just look like one race unless you know it's there. I've heard of half white half Asian kids coming out with blond hair and blue eyes. Genes are complicated.
Most of the people in Latin America talk Spanish and where did J.K Rowling decided to put the only school in Latin America to be? Brazil where they talk Portuguese.
One of my friends said something that made everyone else’s minds explode because they apparently had never thought of this: Snape is either a bad guy who did good things or a good guy who did bad things, take your pick
J.K Rowling: I never wrote a series called Harry Potter, why do people keep asking me about magical wizards in such? I've only ever written a biography of my pet rock tinkles!
Gotta correct you here, Rowling did NOT write about all 11 schools. She wrote about some of them. Hermione could be mixed at most since her mother was in fact described as white.
There's also a scene in Goblet of Fire in which (I think) Amos Diggory asks Arthur Weasley if all children are his. Why would he ask that if Hermione was not white? Seems obvious Arthur and Molly could not possible be the parents of a black child. Nor is it possible for a black person to have their skin go white or pink. Ergo, Hermione is white.
Blue Green even the idea of being mixed in my opinion is pushing it I think this is just something they did to appear to be more inclusive in to get the support of all the female minority types of groups who might've been saying that they're tired of going and watching a ton of pretty white actresses because she was definitely described in the book is having bushy brown hair so that means that she wasn't fully black and she was also described as being really brown and freckly when she can came back from the vacation in the south of France with her parents in the second book so she's definitely not black maybe being mixed could be a discussion but even then I think it is really pushing it because I think it's also important to keep in mind that the characters who were black/African were described as such it's not like there are no black characters
Anthony Stargaryen yeah and in the second book it talked about her when she came back from the south of France with her parents but as looking particularly brown and frankly it also gives her bushy brown hair several times in the books so she was certainly not fully black there's absolutely no way the biracial Siri could be a possibility but I still think it's a push just to be politically correct now days so that they can cast more "diverse characters" and it's not as if there aren't any colored characters or anything there are a lot of diverse characters in the book and they are specifically described as being such I think this is really grasping at straws's just so that one of the main three characters can be something other than Caucasian to make people happy
Oh I agree it'd be pushing it, I'm just saying she could be mixed at most. Rowling is ridiculous for acting like Hermione was never described as having any race. I wouldn't care much about the play casting a black actress because the play itself is shit, but Rowling's comment annoyed me. Also, Hermione's face was described as white when she was scared of something, so it seals the deal for me. She wasn't described as going pale, but specifically white.
Apparently race switching is a common occurrence in theatre because it’s much more about performance and there’s a smaller pool of people you can pull from if it’s not a big play But I agree. You’re allowed to not like it. It’s an English character, it’s supposed to be canon, and it’s a big part
I hate race swapping characters should stay the way they are written. If they are black they should stay black if they are white they should stay white.
Snape is like my favorite character. He was such a brave person! And sometimes I imagine if he would have been a father figure to Harry if he'd been sorted into Slytherin. Snape just didn't like Gryffindor.... And the fact that the son of the woman he loved looked like his childhood bully and only had her eyes( which by the way were supposed to be green!)
JK may call the coupling of Ron & Hermione wish fulfillment...I call it an easy way to tie up loose ends. This way, the Golden Trio stays friends without weirdness between them. If Harry & Hermione ended up together (my personal choice) it would have left Ginny & Ron out in the cold and would most likely have affected their adult relationships.
Cherry_420. Strongly agree. Later on in life what compelling reason would there be for Harry and Hermione to go to Arthur and Molly's house on hollidays if not as part of Ron and Ginny's families. It would be so awkward for them I think that eventually they would stop going and would just grow more and more apart from each other's lives. It would also suggest that Voldemort was right in what the locket showed Ron; and that evil SOB doesn't deserve to be right about anything!
I don't think it would affect Ginny that much. Ginny has proven to be capable of finding other boys to date, especially now that she's a famous Quidditch Player. It may affect Ron at first but eventually he will move on and will find other witches to date as well.
Harry and Hermione would still visit the Weasley house regardless if they didn't end up with Ron and Ginny. They are still close friends with the other Weasley members. I don't think Harry would allow themselves to cut ties completely with them.
It WAS wish fulfillment and it shows. We writers have something called "don't pair the spares" because unless it makes sense it looks sloppy af. That's what she (somewhat) did with Harry and Ginny. It was pretty damn clean Harry and Hermione over time had really meshed, gotten close and could easily be a couple. She ripped that apart with Ron because she forced the characters. Now, Ginny was well established to like Harry so no issue on her half. But Harry never really cared beyond "best friend's sister" so him liking her is what I can't believe.
I really cannot accept it 1) Dumbledore not gay😑😑 2) Hermione not black(I'm not racist.I'm also black person😅😅) 3) What's wrong with relationship between Ron and Hermione?I think there's no problem.I really love their chemistry.😍😍 4) There's no need to get shocked about Teddy Lupin got sorted into Hufflepuff.Her mother was Hufflepuff 😒😒.I think Hufflepuff not bad.There have Cedric Diggory,Tonk and Newt(Main character in Fantastic beasts) This is not hate comment.This is just my opinion.😘😘
I’m turning 23 in two months and hoping a) Hogwarts has a graduate program and b) they won’t take one look at the name on my application and hex me out the door...
in the case of Hermione and her race, JK might have not say that Hermione was white but in third book (the prisoner of azkaban) it's mentioned she had gotten a tan during the holiday.
I still can't believe they threw her into the fire like that and are currently speaking of her as if she was some villain lol, truly amazing, i have no idea how people put up with Twitter, it's literally all the worst things humanity can be concentrated in one place, it's just hate on top of hate all day all night.
There is a german Wizarding school called "Stroheim". They use very much Muggel technologies, because they think german science is the worlds finest. This is also a difference between the british and german magic rules. In the UK you are not allowed to have magically transformed muggel technology.
I am really not sure why people have an issue with Ron and Hermione ending up together. They had chemistry from book one. They basically are the couple from every romcom ever- start out fighting like dogs and ending up together. Any potterhead would have seen that one coming. Plus had she put together harry and Hermione that would have been another great male-female friendship sacrificed on the alter of romance. Ron and Hermione were just never as great friends as Harry and Hermione were. And I am glad she did not ruin that. Plus Harry had a type- tiny and fiery. Both Cho and Ginny were like that. I thought JKR's initial intuitive take on these relationships is perfect. She should stop overthinking them.
In book 3 it says hermione is white. She’s also white in all of the book covers.
I have no problem with a black hermione but you can’t say that you never said that when you did
it is rowling's habit to do so
She is a bad *****
Aware 76 yup I’m 11 and you can’t protect us anymore
It makes Rowling look so bad, and even racist in a weird way. Just saying one of your characters is a person of color doesnt automatically make the book diverse. Just like having black friends doesnt make a person not racist.
Nope,her skin describes to be white out of surprising for what happened ~🌚💔
@@smileitsjustagame2937 it might make her bad because she turns her opinions around to fit a "woke" (I hate that phrase) image, but she is by no means at all a racist. Shes not trying to say her book is diverse, she was just trying to make a point that it doesn't matter
J.K Rowling's the only author I know of that's managed to fan-fiction her own work
Lol
Lmao yeah
Scott Cawthon: Am I a joke to you?
Let’s hope it’s fan*fiction*
💀
why does Snape hate herbology?
Because his Lilly died
Nice one.
always
Man that's dark
Sax and Relax
dark humour
I hate lily, but dang this is good
nobody:
rowling: luna and neville fangirled over k-pop all throughout the sixth book
Mary Jasper *choking on water😂😂
I could totally see that happening though
This is the only one that makes any sense
Now I'm definitely luna
Believable
no one:
jk rowling: the sorting hat was into bdsm
😂😂😂
This is truly my favorite jk memes so far!
Bdsm ?
I laughed out for real.
Seems legit
Nobody:
JK Rowling: *It iS nEvEr SpEcIfIeD tHaT HarRy PoTtEr iS MaLe*
Lol
"The BOY who lived"
@@heerashaheena3322 HE IS TRANSGENDER!
LMAO
@@mv9370 🙄😂😂😂
Whether she says she's black or white, Emma Watson will always be the true Hermione Granger in my heart.
Emma Watson is hermoine irl too. She's charming, intelligent, beautiful.
And she’s a feminist and one of the alright ones so that’s good that she’s not one that thinks looking at someone is rape
In respect for the character, She should only be white.
I still think Hermione was never black in her head. She actually describes her face as white many times in the books. But only now wants to change her appearance.
True
No one:
J. K. Rowling: You, the reader, was actually in an intense sexual relationship with Dobby
🤣
GoF.
*"Dobby's a bad elf!" Winky moaned.*
I mean, she isn't wrong with that one...
You Don't Need To Know Who I Am
oh my god nO
How did she know!
Why was it shocking that Teddy Lupin was a Hufflepuff? Tonks was.
Eric DiMemmo This is the comment I was looking for.
Eric DiMemmo I was gonna post this exact thing if no one else had
Exactly what I was thinking.
Eric DiMemmo lol
Eric DiMemmo exactly
RIGHT AFTER SHE SAID "#1 Dumbledore is Gay" I HEARD MY MOM YELL "WHAT" FROM THE OTHER ROOM IM DYING SHE DIDNT EVEN HEAR THAT
lolol
r/thathappened
Omg I’m dying 😂😂😂
@@oxicleanbleach6377 r/ihavereddit
@@strawberry444 r/ihavereddit and im not bragging aabout it
NO ONE:
JK ROWLING: Voldemort is a test tube baby
😂😂😂😂😂 LMAO
HAHAHAH
@Shillyvk Sshilly i mean,he does,his daughter is Delphini
Her next tweet will be Happy Potter was just a dream of Harry nothing happened for real
Yippee bcuz the fandom can just stop anticipating new stuff coming up??at times, im just tired tbh...😅😅😅(but actually, it'll be bad for me too...😅)
Yeah I feel like Harry might have just been delusional but that’s too depressing
you wrote happy potter lol
There's a theory about Harry dreaming the whole thing
All the superheroes imagined the whole thing.
The first time I realized Snape could be a good guy was in the third movie when he stood infront of the trio to protect them against Lupin in his werewolf form
I agree I was like ...wait did he ...? No... wait ...yes he just tried to protect them 😍 and then I liked him ...then he killed Dumbledore and I hated him ...but at the end I love him ....always !
me too
I got a hint he was a "good/grey area" character in the first movie/book. He helped protect the stone and he threatened the bad guy. I was mostly on the fence though until that moment in the 3rd when he tried to protect the kids.
The movie had me confused because i had just read the book and was like "When the hell did that happen"
In the half blood prince film at the battle of the astronomy tower shape hushes Harry to make sure he is not caught by the death eaters
It’s not a shock that Teddy’s in Hufflepuff as his mother, Tonks, was in Hufflepuff too.
IKR
Lil' Lara true
Is also le Hufflepuff
Hufflepuff Pride!!
why would it be a shock that anyone is a hufflepuff
HUFFLEPUFFS ARE THE BEST
All of us: Dumbledore asked calmly
JKR: *Dumbledore ask gayfully*
Franco Pesce
DIDYAPUTCHADBHGCUEHHWGXHWUHQHXHUD
Sounds like it like it came straight out of My Immortal
I never had a big issue with gay Dumbledore, it's not a major retcon, Dumbledore was never married anyways so it was always a possibility as long as she doesn't make his whole character about being gay then fine, the black hermione thing was brazen though, to me the most ridiculous retcon in history and truly an author writing fanfics of her own novels, it's insane.
@@liquidsnake6879 no one has but she suddenly come up with all this things is really funny
She just trying to please sjw but they still call her transophobic
😂😂😂😂
J.K. Rowling these days be like:
Ginny had intense relationship with Nagini
Snape and Voldemort are actually transgenders
Ron was actually asian
Dumbledore and Grindleward are actually sisters
Harry's real name is actually Holly
Hermione is actually a bisexual black woman
Sirius real name is actually White
Draco owns a gay bar
Neville was actually an elf
Edit: Prison Mike was Sirius cellmate
chant aliyah tbh that one just sound true lmao
Riza Jade I love the ‘Sirius real name is White’ lollllll
Do you mean to tell me that Draco _doesn't_ own a gay bar?
Make sense
And Hagrid is a unicorn
Nobody
JK Rowling: Ron is actually a butterfly that’s why he hates spiders
@@jcudal32 Same
W H E E Z E
Oh so thats why he wanted to follow the butterflies instead. It all makes sense now
Stop hating on hufflepuffs you guys, their common room is right next to the kitchens so in many ways it’s the best house.
Livy DiJoseph true
Hufflepuffs are particularly good FINDERS!
Correct
They too host mass mastrubation in their houses so :)
In my case, if i was a wizard. Ravenclaw!
J.K. Rowling has revealed that you, the reader, was gay all along.
Hahahhhaahaha
Well she was half right.
Mid Lane Only No u
She was right in my case!
bluechair 13 ikr, me too
Harry Potter reveals that snape, the reader, is dating jk Rowling
A meme within the confines of the Harry Potter universe? Nice!
Point 3 is actually a mistake on Rowling's part. In at least three instances it is quite heavily implied, if not to say stated that Hermione is light-skinned and probably caucasian.
1) In "Prisoner of Azkaban", when Harry is reunited with Hermione, it is noted that Hermione visibly tanned over the summer, after her vacation in Southern France. This would imply that Hermione regular skintone is rather light, for it to be this noticable.
2) Again, in "Prisoner of Azkaban", we have the following allusion to a light skin colour for Hermione. In Chapter 21, Hermione's Secret, page 293, we find the following phrase: "Hermione's white face was sticking out from behind a tree." While this is a result of the fear and anxiety she is feeling at that moment in time, when phrased like this, it is easy to assume that her fear makes her look even paler than usual. Which in turn would mean, she is pale-skinned usually.
3) In "Half-Blooded Prince", Chapter 5, "An Excess of Phlegm", we find the heaviest implication that Hermione is in fact pale of skin: "But when Harry arrived downstairs ten minutes later, fully dressed and carrying his empty breakfast tray, it was to find Hermione sitting at the kitchen table in great agitation, while Mrs Weasley tried to lessen her resemblance to half a panda." Seeing how they were trying to cover up a black eye, and seeing what a panda looks like, such comparison only makes sense if Hermione is indeed white.
Personally, I don't give a shit how the theater writer decided to cast her, I'm all for artistic freedom and freedom of interpretation and if Rowling would simply have stated that she has no problem with said casting, I wouldn't have even bothered giving it a second thought. But saying that the novels never alluded to Hermione's skin color is nonsense.
AGREED. Rowling also specifies every time a character is black (Lee Jordan, Kingsley Shacklebolt, Dean Thomas, etc.). So why not do this EVER for Hermione, who appears hundreds of times more than those side characters?
I'm all for artistic freedom, too. No problem in casting a black actress to play a character previously described as white, especially if the character's race doesn't matter to her arc and story. But pretending that she hadn't written Hermione as white made me think a lot less of JKR.
In the deathly hallows they said that the cut on her neck from Bellatrix stood out from her pale skin
@@exitpursued6690 Agree with all these comments. Also, if you look up Rowlings own drawing of the characters, Hermione is white. She's made herself look really silly and I've lost a lot of respect for her.
That's just Rowling trying to be woke.
BjornV1994 Exactly! It’s like saying that the Patil sisters were never Indian. At least Dumbledore being gay has canon in the books due to the description of his feelings towards Grindlewald. I can actually believe that but Hermione is not and never was meant to be black.
Actually Hermione is described several times as having white features, especially her eyes. And Rowling confirmed in the 90's Hermione looks like she does on the original covers (she's white on every cover). So yeah keep pushing the anti-white agenda, you're just proving your racism towards whites.
B. K. / *you can’t be racist towards whites*
-Something a person with an IQ of 5 would say
Prejudice is universal, and a two way street. I just point to Archie Bunker and George Jefferson.
It is not anti-white. She's just adding stupid shit so it could be more diverse.
She could be black, but it was JK Rowling's intention for her to be white when writing the books. But there is nothing wrong with portraying Hermione as black or thinking of Hermione as black if you want to... that definitely is not being racist toward white people. Hermione's skin was never directly specified at first, so many people assumed her to be white. And if Angelina Johnson or Dean Thomas' skin color had not been specified, they probably would assumed to be white too. The fact that people immediately assume every character to be white unless specified is an underlying problem in writing (although JK Rowling later eluded to Hermione being white by referring to her paleness, she could have been any other race when first introduced).
M D there are ppl who are not white in Britain
"Hermione was in a wheelchair the whole time."
There would be a LOT of ableism if she really did use a wheelchair.
She is never described as not being in a Wheelchair!
*cries in harry potter*
I understood that referance
Ron and hermione were fantastic together IN THE BOOKS the movies ruined Rons character so badly I can understand why someone wouldn’t ship them if they never read the books
Totally agree. To me, Harry and Hermione would be too "vanilla" of a couple of they were together, unlike with Ron where their difference makes things interesting.
Agreed!! And because of that we get nonsencial ships like 'dramione' like seriously?
Honestly I love them in movies too. I mean, it's been hinted ever since her reluctance to hug Ron at the end of Chamber of Secrets. I've never in a million years even thought of movie Harry and Hermione together cuz I always registered the fact that those two can be just great friends.
Harry and Hermione can be an amazing couple too
And in the books Romione makes no sense. Ron was never jealous of Harry hugging Hermione until the sixth book. So you can't say Hermione liked Ron. Also Hermione was not jealous of Ron falling in love with Fleur in the Goblet of 🔥
So Harry and Hermione make more sense in the books and movies BOTH
I think she makes it up when somebody asks
Well it is a work of fiction.
@@CreativeUsernameEh A work of identity politics*
@@CreativeUsernameEh yeah but even in fiction you cant go against already written material. Imagine if Marvel suddenly says Peter Parker is gay for Captain America. Lol.
@@TheSlimmshadyy Well... Tom Holland DID say he would be fine with a gay spider-man...
The Needy Arianator
That makes sense
I don’t dislike black Hermoine but I grew up with a white Hermione so it was a bit strange..
emanuelle cornelisse Same. Don't want to sound racist or anything, it just threw me off a bit at first.
Its not. It was the same for me. While the books doesn't spell out her race.. They cast Emma for the part. It just seems off.. To later find out... That BTW.... That might have been off.
Yeah, I don't hate it, but it just feels weird. I wish the original cast would make a movie out of the Cursed Child and that J.K Rowling would write it all on her own. When you watch Cursed Child, you can tell Rowling didn't write it by herself.
emanuelle cornelisse I think it's pushing it to be honest, and I also think that it was done more to be politically correct and make sure to appear to be all inclusive and everything, because the book does talk about her bushy brown hair so she definitely wasn't full black no matter what in the second book it also talks about her when she came back from the vacation in the south of France, it's specifically described her as being "Very brown" and it also talked about freckles
In my opinion, she was white this was just something that they came up with later for the reasons that I said and she went along with it because why not she couldn't really respond and say "no she was white it can't be a black actress" it's not like she could say that
OlGalJess no this was a stretch just to be more politically correct, because the book does talk about her brown bushy hair so she definitely was not full block that is for sure and it also talks about her looking really brown and freckly when she came back from her vacation so she was definitely on the later end of the stick biracial even would be pushing it but let's be real it's a white girl
Harry and Tom Riddle were descendants of Ignotus and Cadmus Peverell respectively. Hence they were distant blood relatives.
Harry: how dare you stand where he stand
Snap:Dumbledore stood everywhere in this school what do you want me to do float
Nah Emma Watson is the best Hermione.
Will K I agree she killed it
Haven't seen the new ones performance cos I can never get a hold of tickets 😢😢 but Emma Watson is a perfect fit for Hermione as she plays it so well 🙌❤️
Nobody else can do it tbh. It's a role only Emma can truly fulfill
I've never seen the cursed child play and I'm not racist or anything but you've got to admit it is kind of strange the actress who played Hermione was black, especially considering they tried very hard to make the players look like their movie-counterparts.
Always.
why would people only know that Voldemort and Harry are distant related because Rowling has told them after the books were already out? It´s said in the books that Voldemort was a distant relative of Cadmus Peverell and Harry of Ingotus Peverell. I find it more interesting that Harry is related to Salazar Slytherin.
You must be referring to Marvolo Gaunt's rant to Bob Ogden and Harry's conversation with Dumbeldore at imagery King's Cross.
correct
KK Plac that's mentioned in the books too
KK Plac when is it mentioned that harry is related to salazar slytherin
it´s not but it`s mentioned that Voldemort is....and since Voldemort is also related to Cadmus peverell and Harry is related to Ingots Peverell, and since these two are brothers it means Harry is also related to Salazar Slytherin
ALTERNATE TITLE: *Top 10 Things J.K. Rowling has made up about Harry Potter to be inclusive and diverse.*
She's been eaten by her own cult.
@@LordSantiagor The funniest part was watch them throw her in the fire in the end like we all told her they would from the start lol
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@Amelia nope
Amen
"Spellbooks alone are very expensive." As a college student, I can relate.
Minister FOR Magic
*Gets Triggered
Yes it should be Minister with Magic, with the contender title Minister by Magic ;)
M.O.M 🙂
EmperorViking another screw up is the book is called "Cursed Child" not "Curse Child".
The real title is Minister of Magic
EmperorViking no it’s not
Most people think writers have the entire book stuck in their head before writing it and then only have to put it on paper. Boy, they couldn't be more wrong.
Then apparently most people haven't heard of George RR Martin and his notoriously big gaps between book releases.
Andries Velten trueee. Tbh I feeling like while reading the order of the Phoenix, J.K. Was making stuff up as she went. Still my fav book in the series
No one:
JK Rowling: *Hagrid secretly hooked up with Dobby*
Regretful reads has that chapter now 😳
JESSICA THERE ARE LIMITS
Okay, dropping the “Voldemort” “T” now is just stupid. She had literally all this time to reveal it to them
I wasn't happy with a black Hermoine either, but because she was black but because we all grew up with a white Hermoine and now all the sudden she is black. The change didn't make sense
And imagine the pain of all the children trying to audition for the role of Rose. "Oh, you can't play Rose because you're not black." All because of a change that came out of nowhere.
Noya Fa I agree with you
Agreed. It's not a racist thing. It's about keeping characters consistent. It'd be just a strange to me if she were original cast as black all these years and was suddenly now white. I'd have the same issue with it. The only difference is that people would cry racism when they don't here because of the double standard. It seems to me this was done as a political statement.
MoonstonePearl21 Well I disagree. I think your white guilt is showing and though you say it has nothing to do with racism, you do express some light undertones of it. Because for one, J.K. never confirmed Hermione was white, and in the books it never stated she was white and in fact it heavily implied she wasnt white either. You also seem to forget that J.K had this set in stone waaaaay before the books developed, so NO it wasn't a political statement, its just you projecting your hate towards political correctness and your distaste for liberals. Anyone who isnt bothered by this can read through your sugar coating, but what ever I guess. Join the bandwagon I guess lol
Repuglibe SandersVonRubio
The book stated she was white several times:
When Hermione and the Wesleys went to the bookshop? (not sure which shop it was) They met Mister Malfoy who asked if Hermione was one of Arthurs and Mollys children. Why would he ask that if she was black? Two white people don't have black children. So she must have been white.
After a vacation she came back with tanned skin and lots of freckles. If a black person comes back from a vacation in a sunny country they are usually not described as tanned (normally their skin color doesn't change that much)
"To Harry’s surprise, Hermione turned a very deep shade of pink at these words." Black people blush but they don't turn pink.
Hermiones mother is described as a pale brunette with green eyes. So we know her mother is white. Hermione could be mixed at best.
Emma Watson is a white actress. J.K. Rowling proved of her and never corrected anyone in the years the movie was filmed. So she approved of Hermione being white.
I think Hermione being black is great but you have to understand that people are confused at first. We thought she was white now she is suddenly black that i confusing. Nothing more.
I wouldn't like Harry and Hermione together. That would've been too typical cos he's the main character and Hermione the main female character it's likely that they end up together. But I am not a supporter of this cos Ron would have just been the funny unnessecary guy in the group and it would have just shown that only the main characters get the "jackpot".
In the cursed child , they made Hermione pair with Padma Patil instead in an alternate reality. And she becomes a frustrated dada teacher. I am not against Lesbians but I think J.K Rowling is going out of her way to inject sjw agenda where it's not needed. It's laughable because in the entire series there was no hint of her being a homosexual.
Women aren't prizes to be given off to people though, so don't call Hermione a "jackpot"
J.K Rowling changing characters is literallly me deciding on what to eat
You, a simpleton: black Hermione
Me, an intellectual: Hrigga
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Made my day!
Such an intellectual
You:ron should be asian
Me: won won
😂😂😂
Yee haw Guy or wong
Let's pretend Cursed Child never happened.
Alex Nelo Everything in Cursed Child is not real.
Alex Nelo what's the cursed child?
Alex Nelo agree
Movie Nerd Cursed Child is some kind of theater play focussing on Harry and Ginny's son and Draco Malfoy's son I believe
Isn't that what most of the fandom is doing (rightfully so) anyway ?
How is dumbledore being gay a huge thing?
InsertCleverNameHere there are hints and so what he was still a great man to Harry and saved the wizarding world kinda twice
I know. I'm just wondering how that made it to the first place. It seems ridiculous to me. SO what if he's gay?! It's not a big deal
When I read deathly hallows, I thought he had a crush on Grindewald!!! Thats the only way I think would be relevant to the story.
I don't know, maybe... Representation for the LGBTQ+ community
Of course is a huge thing
QuIqUe190m I guess... On the other hand I never saw it as being *that* important.
It would’ve been cool if Harry became a professional quidditch player. I feel like that would’ve made him very happy.
Omg that would have made so much more sense. I never even thought of it but it's perfect
Ginny became a quidditch player too
In your head canon, he can be! What Rowling doesn't realize is that IF IT ISN'T IN THE BOOKS THEN IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!! Once a creator releases something it NO LONGER belongs to them. Anything outside of the book or movie is open to audience interpretation, period.
I think he couldn't of even if he wanted to. He was a child thrown into war, so he gave up being a child to fight a genocidal maniac as he was forced to by every adult in his life. I think Harry would've _liked_ to step away from that, but he was too far gone to just give it all up.
In the fifth book he said that he wants to become an author
J.K. Rowling: Hermione's race was never specified
Me: Lies!
Yup, that's why she was white on all the book covers and in all the movies.
In the second book it mention Hermione being "pale skinned".
If Hermione's skin color is never addressed in the books (honestly, I don't recall anyone having a designated skin color), why didn't they find someone of mixed heritage to play her...because it didn't come to matter until they cast a black actress to play her in the stage play. Why was Lavender Brown, who WAS a young black girl in the first two movies, suddenly transformed into a blonde, blue eyed, white girl for Ron's love interest? That is relevant in the context of the books/movies.
Lavender Brown in the books was white, but never described. so they just casted a black girl for her, then in a later book its revealed she's white, so they got a white girl to recast her.
just a fuck up on the casting issues prior lol
So keep her black in the casting as a deviation from the source material, instead of suddenly changing her to be white, unless there's a major plot reason to do so (i.e. she gets badly sunburned, her character's history in northern European nobility becomes important, etc).
Richard Mahood because it doesn’t matter what they look like. They were all amazing actors and nothing but that matters
Richard Mahood “pale white skin”
Jon Idoncair
I think the point still stands, if it wouldn’t matter with Hermione it shouldn’t with Lavender either.
Or perhaps the Lavender one was more like Flitwick went from the movie creator’s goblin version into Rowlings actually envisioned of him being merely a short human.
That moment when you’re only on the second book and didn’t know Snape killed Dumbledore . .
.
He had to cause dumbledore said him to for the sake of hogwarts
DUM DUM DUUUUMMMMMMM
@@arushiranjan8059 shush
*Harry Potter earrape music plays*
Wait what?
I support Black Hermione but she WAS specified as white
@I Am Groot J.K Rowling: Hermione was a Nigerian vampire the whole time, just hiding it with magic. That is why she could hypnotize professors into giving her a time turner. She was actually 200 years old when she went to Hogwarts. She pretended to just be good at reading when actually she just had mostly already understood the material from her long life. When she became minister she was discovered and turned back to human.
But she said Emma Watson was "The perfect Hermione."
I love Snape’s character. I mean sure he did bad things and all but that’s what makes him great. It’s not like he’s perfect or anything though he’s the perfect mixture of hero and villain. That makes him stand out above all other characters. Plus his troubled past might have attributed towards his emotional resentment towards some characters but even with his flaws, he managed to be courageous and bold towards the end of the series. And sure he got jealous and angry sometimes and even leaned towards the dark path but he came back to do the right thing every time; his above mentioned qualities are some of the most common. His ordinary qualities are in fact the reason that he’s outstanding.
I enjoy him as a character because he is enigmatic throughout the series and is one of the most flawed and interesting characters in the whole series. However, I don't consider him outstanding as a person. I have no problem with people who do, I guess it all comes down to what stands out most for you, the reader. I can't get past his years of verbal abuse and cold anger towards children, let alone how incredibly mean he was to Harry and Neville specifically. Yeah, his home life was seemingly terrible, and the girl he "loved" (to me it seems more like he was infatuated with her, but again just my opinion) ended up with his bully and was then killed by the very group he joined to feel like he belonged, BUTTTTTT I feel like he had every opportunity to turn over a new leaf or gain perspective through the things that happened to/around him, but he didn't. He stayed bitter and angry and cold. Circumstances mean a lot, but they're not an excuse when you're that old and taking personal responsibility is more meaningful to me.
SidraShabbir526 dam right
SidraShabbir526 good choice, he's my favorite.
SidraShabbir526 lets not forget snape is dead im Harry Potter and in real life #RIPsnape #Always 😞
SidraShabbir526 leaned towards the dark path? C'mon he was one of voldys best "friends" if he had one
A- I like Hermione as an independent strong woman, but if I had to pair her with one it would be Ron.
B- To be honest, I'd be okay with Arthur death if it means that Remus or Sirius would live, yes it would be sad for the Weasley' but they have a mother and each other, Harry has no one
Aisha i agree. At least Fred would be speared as well
While I don't disagree I must add that Arthur is the bread winner for the Weasley family so with his death they would of been worse off. I hate that Fred or anyone really had to die but I do believe that Arthur was spared for a reason.
Aisha who would support 7 children and ron was born after some time of Harris birth so ron wouldn't exist
Aisha Yes I agree
Aisha Did anyone else cry when Sirius died and Dumbledore I did. It was very emotional since I literally thought harry was me.
JK Rowling needs to stop! She is ruing the masterpiece she built for publicity!
MunknJet what are you talking about?
@@thewallfangirl2980 you're not too smart, are you?
imnot surewhat well your not so smart to think I didn’t block you
She created it
She has rights to say whatever about it
Ramin.F who?
The new minster of magic
Dobbie
I feel bad. I'm A HUUUUUUGE Harry Potter fan, but I had NO idea Hermione becomes Minister of Magic...
Eadlum Kirke Really? I've read Cursed Child only 1 time (cause I really didn't like it), so I can 't remember that part. But thank you for telling me. :)
Lena hosteaux I didn't like it either it was more fanfic than book
Samire J Exactly!! It felt like I was reading a fanfic written by a 12 to 14 year old.
Lena hosteaux Wait really?! It's in the Cursed Child written in black..
Samire J I agree, it felt like I was reading a fanfic. I never really enjoyed the Cursed Child as much as I enjoyed reading the HP series,. Probably one of the worst HP book I've red.
If hermione is black why is she white in the most recent books (harry potter illustrated edition ).
Movies and the books vs a stage play .
You know, I feel like JK thinks that she can make up things about the wizarding world just because she's written the series. Yes, I know this sentence seems kinda crazy, but everyone knows that Hermione is white. I have no problem with black people, if that's what u think, but JK Rowling wrote about Hermione's "pale skin" and also her "white skin" multiple times throughout the series, so saying that she never made any reference to her skin colour in novel is just bs. And pale and white skin can show that a character is afraid, but it also proves that Hermione Granger is WHITE. JK can't make everything up just so people think she's a really great person (which she naturally is, I'm sure). She can't rewrite what has been written. To have written so many wonderful books, I would have expected her to actually have given some thought into what information she gives us on the wonderful world that she created. And I'm not overreacting, guys, I just don't like when people lie (or do anything alike).
I guess it's my zodiac sign's fault.....
What is your zodiac sign?
@@ska_irah libra
Nope your chakra isnt allign yet.
Do meditations pls.
Nobody:
J.K Rowling: *VoLdEmOrT wAs AcTuAlLy BlAcK*
Yeah Dumbledore being gay was crazy, I mean who would have thought, one of the most powerful wizards in the world and he’s gay....because sexual orientation is so relevant to his magical abilities * sarcasm
The problem with Dumbledore being gay is that it was handled poorly. It is not mentioned once in the books and most people didn't notice on their own. But a bigger issue is that Rowling didn't allow Dumbledore any relationship after Grindelwald. If it was no big deal to be gay in the wizarding world then it would have been completely normal to have same-sex relationships. Instead Dumbledore is not allowed another romance beyond his first. There are no other mention of same-sex coupling in the books. During the Yule ball it would have been the perfect moment to show inclusion. But nothing. All pairs are opposite sex and not one boy tries to ask Harry. So I don't buy Rowling's pandering when she didn't make any effort to properly include lgbt elements.
I mean... Rowling probably just wanted points for being "so progressive". Many people will never even know about Dumbledore being gay unless they come across it on the internet. There was never any hints to Dumbledores sexuality in any of the books.
The personal lives of the teachers were not discussed at all in the books (except Snape's at the end, which was a crucial point). Otherwise there would be 70 not only 7 books. Sooo, really, I believe it was not necessary. Perhaps she just didn't think of all these aspects when writing, because it was not the point of this story. Maybe some more "hidden" messages would be fine, but the book was full enough with everything to put in "unnecessary" info that Harry didn't really need.
Atlas Absentee I thought Dumbledore was gay simply from reading the books. And I was like 12 at the time. Like damn son, the signs were always there. But in saying that he's the headmaster!! Why the hell would we the audience be privy to such info? It's not like the characters are going to randomly discuss the love lives of their teachers!
Care to share what were the "signs"? Cause I sure af didn't see them either as a child or adult.
I'm okay with Hermione being black, mixed, or whatever, but I hate how Rowling revealed it, like... 'well, I never said she was white ;)' -Yeah, you approved a lot of countries' cover art with a white Hermione. Just be okay with a black Hermione adaptation instead of playing coy with your intentions
batts1153 in my opinion this is just to be politically correct because the book does talk about her looking really brown and frankly when she came back from her vacation in the south of France with her parents it also talks about brown bushy hair several times so she definitely was not completely block the biracial Siri is a possibility but even then I think it's pushing it I also think when the author made for certain characters gay or whatever I do think that that was done later as an afterthought I hate to say it and I am the biggest fan of the series but I do think that there has been a lot of jumping on the bandwagon fifth to try to be politically correct and inclusive The only thing left is for her to say that Neville had a learning disability :-) that's coming
@Zahra shah ^^^ this
My only issue with it is consistency. I don't care about the race of the characters, but once you have one established in film, I don't think that should be changed in them. It's inconsistent and confusing. It's different for stage shows because a lot of different people play the same role. I agree. I don't like how this was done. It seems like she was just trying to make some sort of statement.
The Spaniard cover of the 3rd book shows a white skinned, fair haired, blue eyed Hermione...It's so rich having adaptations of race or whatever, so yeah, I also wanted Rowling not to "play coy", as you said it.
And she approved Emma Watson for the movies. I rarely pay attention to anything other than the books, and they have plenty of inconsistencies and errors. She even admitted that she made mistakes in later books owing to not reviewing the prior books before writing.
Nobody:
J.K Rowling: Peter Pettigrew was actually a femenist transgender furry
If furries made enough noise on Twitter they could probably get her to retcon some furry stuff in there, it's funny and sad at the same time
i think ron and hermoine were great together. proves that couples are a mirror of each other. got a bit of a hang with it when fortunately he adopted some of hermoine's clever thinking and hermoine on he's clumsyness at times. ✌✌✌😊😊
Ron and Hermione remind of Arthur and Molly Weasley. Arthuf and Ron would be the fun parents anfñd less strict while Molly and Hermione would be the serious and strict parent but very caring
I always see them like that, it makes me happy
Honestly I don't think JKR has even read her own freaking books at least not recently. Hermione is very clearly pale-skinned with buckles and said over and over again. The only time her skin tone is mentioned as being Brown is after summer and friends with her family at which point she would probably have a skin tan just like any other Anglo-Saxon red-haired girl.
I'm sure the actress who plays Hermione in the stage play is a lovely person but the simple fact of the matter is that this is a British book and there are very few people in the UK prior to to the year 1990 who would not have been a pale skin complexion. The primary influx populations were from India and other parts of the former Empire now I could see her one of these parents possibly being part Hindi a several of generations back on her having a perhaps more Asian looking face but her skin complexion would still be very pale. The books popularity in America and the racial b******* that happens over here as the reason JKR said that her mind wasn't necessarily White when her rice and freckles were clearly established to begin with.
Also, At first Brown was a black girl but was changed to white one when she became Ron's love interest. Why did they change her race? Because Rowling outright told them that she was in fact white. Despite never mentioning it in the books. She clearly pictures them (and draws them) with race in mind.
Why do you care about Hermione being black. Jk Rowling say so it official Hermione is black. Are you guys kkk members.
She is described to have place skin in the deathly hallows
Steven Nguyen Rowling makes stuff up to please liberals. Hermione is described as white throughout the entire series and Rowling picked Emma Watson out. Then Dumbledore is gay not because he was actually gay in the books but because Rowling made it up to be PC and please the liberals
.. What is Hindi? LoL. Westerns keep giving us new identities. Hindi is a language. Hindu is religion and the term you are looking for is Bhartiya. People from Bharat. Bharat = India.
"She kind if regrets romione."
A lot of us, shaking: yo yo you d d d dont t t m EAN that
Harry Potter was a wonderful series which made my childhood a lot magical, but all this extra unnecessary information Rowling is giving out now is just spoiling her own work. I dont want to know what happened with their kids, not interested in crimes of Grindelwald (tbh the fantastic beast series is very boring), not interested in knowing the sexual orientation and skin colour of any characters. For me Harry Potter ended at the seventh book itself. Now dont ruin our good memories Rowling !
same 😶
If you hadn't seen, the western world destroys everything it cannot transform into diversity and inclusiveness. If it's not multi gendered trans multi-faced unidentified lifeform, it simply is racist
@@BingChilingEnjoyer I actually enjoy diversity but having diversity after the book has ended seems very fake woke to me,As I am a black woman
Sameee
I don't know if Dumbledore being gay can be classed as 'crazy' tbh :/
It doesn't do justice to Dumbledore himself because he would be the last person to brag about it. So really it should be of no importance.
It's not crazy it's just she announced it when her sales were most likely dropping and the cheapest way possible is to try to Pander to a different demographic. And hence when the books and so where the movies done oh by the way Dumbledore's gay. BS style of Revelation because that's when her sales would naturally start to drop on books and merchandise. So do the lazy thing instead of picking up the pen again just make some out of context Revelations of characters the open up purchasing to a newer demographic.
Its just "Crazy" cause people are scandalized by it, marketing trick
@@Doctor_Odin I mean, I don't think she was exactly strapped for cash...and she mentioned it way back in 2008 when there was no diversity pressure and revealing it actually got her a lot of backlash. What is sketchy though is the Fantastic Beasts movies just totally ignoring it now.
1. Harry and Hermoine have no chemistry, particularly in the books, where Ron and Hermoines is so clear
2. Harry and Voldemort being related shouldn't have even been an honourable mention because Dumbledore specifies it in the book to Harry, so it's not something J.K. Rowling said after the books were out
Sorry, just my opinion, but I didn't get any Ron-Hermione chemistry >_
I think that in this rather small community everybody is somehow related, in Harry's case it goes back to the Peverells, they lived centuries ago, so there must be more relatives from that branch walking around.
Jonathan Fitzharris dd
Hermione had NO chemistry with Ron! Even JK Rowling has said that if she could go back she would ultimately put Hermione with Harry
No one:
Literally no one at all:
Jk Rowling: Neville longbottom was transgender
Harry was actually a woman. I never stated he was a guy.
I literally clicked on the main comment to say the exact same thing, lol.
"if harry potter taught us anything it that no one deserves to live in a closet" omg that is beautiful
Dude- she's a TERF
Terf is when you eat Cow and Meat as opposed to Sea Food (Surf)
@Caitlyn McMunn I think it's a feminist that is transphobic or something like that (sorry for my bad English)
I’m certainly biased (as you can guess from my profile picture xD), but imo Snape was simply the most human and _realistic_ character of the saga: he has plenty of flaws, which are compensated by some redeeming qualities; he can be petty and vindictive like Rowling said...but protecting someone whom you hate and despise (Harry) is much harder than protecting those you love.
Harry has plenty of flaws himself and very relatable than Snape.
+NAJ P. Jackson Harry Potter is my second favorite character, but there are many times when he acts impulsively and recklessly just for the sake of it; he can also be frankly a bit obtuse, not seeing things in front of his eyes.
So you think a man abusing an eleven year old just because he is the son of the man that married the woman you were obsessed is no grounds to be hated?
+NAJ P. Jackson I never said something so ludicrous. Please, read my comments.
My comment wasn't aimed at you but at Awilddissapointmentappeared.
Maybe J.K. Rowling didn't think she was specifying Hermione race, but I don't know a black girl, or biracial girl with light brown hair.
I think fans believed that Hermione was black because she had big frizzy hair. I have white family members that have big frizzy hair, this kind of hair isn't specific to any one race of people. Blacks, whites, Asians, and Latinos can have big frizzy hair.
One of my History teachers was as white as a vampire but had African-like frizzy hair, which was very special. It is very rare, but it can happen. She also was a clever and very classy woman.
I know a couple of African Americans with natural light brown hair.
also adding to that, in book three in the beginning, Hermione is described as returning from vacation quite tanned... that being said, who describes a colored person as coming back from vacation as tan? :/
Jenny Gerstl My mom does when ever I’ve been in the sun a lot.
I have a friend who has black facial features and that kind of hair texture but is really light, has freckles, and naturally has brownish, reddish hair. A lot of different combinations can happen when you have mixed race kids. Sometimes they can just look like one race unless you know it's there. I've heard of half white half Asian kids coming out with blond hair and blue eyes. Genes are complicated.
But the Hermoine we know is white!!! 😯😯
Everyone: "no one:"
J.K. Rowling: Ginny had an intense sexual rape relationship with basilisk. That's why it was so evil.
How did I know that Dumbledore being gay would be the thumbnail?
Most of the people in Latin America talk Spanish and where did J.K Rowling decided to put the only school in Latin America to be? Brazil where they talk Portuguese.
Lol...
Nobody :
JK Rowling : Hogwarts is actually Gay Brothel
it was all a dream
I have a huge crush on Ron Weasley. Aggghhhh😏😍✨💐💞
Apparently when my favourite series is involved I'm the first to click play 💕💕💕
Bailey Tysick sammmme
I love how when J.K tweeted Dumbledore dodie responded "then why did you murder him?"
and so did Severus Snape
One of my friends said something that made everyone else’s minds explode because they apparently had never thought of this: Snape is either a bad guy who did good things or a good guy who did bad things, take your pick
J.K Rowling: I never wrote a series called Harry Potter, why do people keep asking me about magical wizards in such? I've only ever written a biography of my pet rock tinkles!
Gotta correct you here, Rowling did NOT write about all 11 schools. She wrote about some of them.
Hermione could be mixed at most since her mother was in fact described as white.
There's also a scene in Goblet of Fire in which (I think) Amos Diggory asks Arthur Weasley if all children are his. Why would he ask that if Hermione was not white? Seems obvious Arthur and Molly could not possible be the parents of a black child. Nor is it possible for a black person to have their skin go white or pink. Ergo, Hermione is white.
Blue Green even the idea of being mixed in my opinion is pushing it I think this is just something they did to appear to be more inclusive in to get the support of all the female minority types of groups who might've been saying that they're tired of going and watching a ton of pretty white actresses because she was definitely described in the book is having bushy brown hair so that means that she wasn't fully black and she was also described as being really brown and freckly when she can came back from the vacation in the south of France with her parents in the second book so she's definitely not black maybe being mixed could be a discussion but even then I think it is really pushing it because I think it's also important to keep in mind that the characters who were black/African were described as such it's not like there are no black characters
Anthony Stargaryen yeah and in the second book it talked about her when she came back from the south of France with her parents but as looking particularly brown and frankly it also gives her bushy brown hair several times in the books so she was certainly not fully black there's absolutely no way the biracial Siri could be a possibility but I still think it's a push just to be politically correct now days so that they can cast more "diverse characters" and it's not as if there aren't any colored characters or anything there are a lot of diverse characters in the book and they are specifically described as being such I think this is really grasping at straws's just so that one of the main three characters can be something other than Caucasian to make people happy
Oh I agree it'd be pushing it, I'm just saying she could be mixed at most. Rowling is ridiculous for acting like Hermione was never described as having any race. I wouldn't care much about the play casting a black actress because the play itself is shit, but Rowling's comment annoyed me.
Also, Hermione's face was described as white when she was scared of something, so it seals the deal for me. She wasn't described as going pale, but specifically white.
Great point about Diggory, Anthony! You're absolutely right. Just proves even more that Rowling is trying too hard to be PC.
I dislike the fact that a black actress plays Hermione because she was played by a white actress in all of the Harry Potter. It just seems off
I don't mind in a different adaptation but I would have minded if they'd changed actors halfway through
Apparently race switching is a common occurrence in theatre because it’s much more about performance and there’s a smaller pool of people you can pull from if it’s not a big play
But I agree. You’re allowed to not like it. It’s an English character, it’s supposed to be canon, and it’s a big part
I hate race swapping characters should stay the way they are written. If they are black they should stay black if they are white they should stay white.
@@icecreamhero2375 We have men and women frequently swapped in theatre, it's not uncommon to have a girl play Peter Pan.
@@troywright359 Thats different that was tradition at the time for women to play yound boys. That has nothing to do with race wapping.
Snape is like my favorite character. He was such a brave person! And sometimes I imagine if he would have been a father figure to Harry if he'd been sorted into Slytherin. Snape just didn't like Gryffindor.... And the fact that the son of the woman he loved looked like his childhood bully and only had her eyes( which by the way were supposed to be green!)
I really like how this channel covers this in an unbiased way
Best friend: are you really still watching that Harry Potter stuff...after all this time?!
Me: always.... (crying intensively)
JK may call the coupling of Ron & Hermione wish fulfillment...I call it an easy way to tie up loose ends. This way, the Golden Trio stays friends without weirdness between them. If Harry & Hermione ended up together (my personal choice) it would have left Ginny & Ron out in the cold and would most likely have affected their adult relationships.
Cherry_420.
Strongly agree. Later on in life what compelling reason would there be for Harry and Hermione to go to Arthur and Molly's house on hollidays if not as part of Ron and Ginny's families. It would be so awkward for them I think that eventually they would stop going and would just grow more and more apart from each other's lives. It would also suggest that Voldemort was right in what the locket showed Ron; and that evil SOB doesn't deserve to be right about anything!
nah ron would’ve married someone gorgeous (not saying hermione isn’t because yes she damn well is)
I don't think it would affect Ginny that much. Ginny has proven to be capable of finding other boys to date, especially now that she's a famous Quidditch Player. It may affect Ron at first but eventually he will move on and will find other witches to date as well.
Harry and Hermione would still visit the Weasley house regardless if they didn't end up with Ron and Ginny. They are still close friends with the other Weasley members. I don't think Harry would allow themselves to cut ties completely with them.
It WAS wish fulfillment and it shows. We writers have something called "don't pair the spares" because unless it makes sense it looks sloppy af. That's what she (somewhat) did with Harry and Ginny. It was pretty damn clean Harry and Hermione over time had really meshed, gotten close and could easily be a couple. She ripped that apart with Ron because she forced the characters. Now, Ginny was well established to like Harry so no issue on her half. But Harry never really cared beyond "best friend's sister" so him liking her is what I can't believe.
Absolutely no one:
J.K. Rowling: Snape is actually black! XD
I really cannot accept it
1) Dumbledore not gay😑😑
2) Hermione not black(I'm not racist.I'm also black person😅😅)
3) What's wrong with relationship between Ron and Hermione?I think there's no problem.I really love their chemistry.😍😍
4) There's no need to get shocked about Teddy Lupin got sorted into Hufflepuff.Her mother was Hufflepuff 😒😒.I think Hufflepuff not bad.There have Cedric Diggory,Tonk and Newt(Main character in Fantastic beasts)
This is not hate comment.This is just my opinion.😘😘
Your not "resist"?
Dumbledore is gay. Deal.
Also search up autocorrect.
11th birthday has passed ... The letter must be late or lost in the post
If not gotta wait another year for my satyr to take me to camp half-blood
I’m turning 23 in two months and hoping a) Hogwarts has a graduate program and b) they won’t take one look at the name on my application and hex me out the door...
If there is a School in Africa, all they will learn is...
*Black Magic*
Skaan Ze Duck race joke
My inner racism just had to
fuck you, man 😂😂
Underrated comment imo
Seriously A Racist Joke..
7:33 I KNEW IT
And now Dumbledore and Grindelwald had intense sexual relations...oh, how low we have fallen
Harry and Ginny belong together (bookwise, at least)
Hannahpauline Romione and Hinny 4 ever
Yes
Who does harry belong with in the moives wise
Why is it weird that my BF looks like Harry Potter and I look like Ginny Weasley? We have be together for 6 and a half years and I'm 10
+LilaRaya Revell
Are you sure that's a typo? Did you mean 20 or 30? Because if you started dating at 4 years old-
in the case of Hermione and her race, JK might have not say that Hermione was white but in third book (the prisoner of azkaban) it's mentioned she had gotten a tan during the holiday.
"She is a strong supporter of the LBGTQ community"...well that didnt age well
I still can't believe they threw her into the fire like that and are currently speaking of her as if she was some villain lol, truly amazing, i have no idea how people put up with Twitter, it's literally all the worst things humanity can be concentrated in one place, it's just hate on top of hate all day all night.
There is a german Wizarding school called "Stroheim".
They use very much Muggel technologies, because they think german science is the worlds finest.
This is also a difference between the british and german magic rules.
In the UK you are not allowed to have magically transformed muggel technology.
It's kind of hinted at that Dumbledore is Gay in the books, with his great admiration for Grindelwald
@Chak Yumai why do people want things irrelevant to the plot?
8:02 DODIE!
I am really not sure why people have an issue with Ron and Hermione ending up together. They had chemistry from book one. They basically are the couple from every romcom ever- start out fighting like dogs and ending up together. Any potterhead would have seen that one coming. Plus had she put together harry and Hermione that would have been another great male-female friendship sacrificed on the alter of romance. Ron and Hermione were just never as great friends as Harry and Hermione were. And I am glad she did not ruin that. Plus Harry had a type- tiny and fiery. Both Cho and Ginny were like that. I thought JKR's initial intuitive take on these relationships is perfect. She should stop overthinking them.
You are correct
Y'll know at this point I trust intellectual fans more than Rowling herself