No statement otherwise, and an official TH-cam video showing you how to put TrueNAS on? No matter what your rep said, that sounds like enough evidence that it wouldn’t hold up in court if they didn’t support your hardware after installing TrueNAS.
It's dumb if they try to prevent that, for many prosumers the point of this box is that we can run TrueNAS on it, if Asus were smart they would embrace it as it would differentiate them from every other competitor, catering for our nerd market, but apparently not... sometimes I wonder why corporate suits have to be so detached from reality, normals won't be shelling out 1500 for a NAS, companies won't be buying this kind of boxes they use big data racks, it leaves only us prosumer nerds who don't want vendor lock-in but complete freedom for our data but apparently Asus disagrees... even simple marketing research like this youtube channel proves TrueNAS on box like this is what everyone wants but instead of embracing sales these NAS manufacturers try to combat against it... insanity
@@Lunoluxexactly, like why would I pay such a premium for HW that I didn’t customize just to deal with TrueNAS’s acl issues or Unraid’s performance issues.
It's refreshing to see manufacturers being open on their hardware. Sure it may void your warranty and is unsupported but "you own your device" is the kind of thing that gets more attention.
A main reason (as a business) I'd get Synology is for the cloud backup. It's well integrated and the pricing is pretty decent too, easily scale-able. For a homeserver, personally I'd build my own and combine it with Unraid, but that's just me, I like having my drives shutdown 99% of the time and the way they do docker is amazing.
Is noise your problem or drive longevity? If you are running data drives they are designed to run 24/7 instead of constantly powering up and down, and last longer when spinning constantly.
As long as you can proof that the software wouldn't damage hardware, there's no legal way for companies to say you voided the warranty on hardware. Doesn't mean they will try and make it difficult. That's also why the sales rep was kinda vague about it.
Just want to say that while your videos aren't always geared to me, they're always super interesting, and I like your content. You have a great delivery a direct delivery that is felt good. Neep up the good work.
This seems really nice box, I would have loved to have something like this a year back when I built my NAS, but had to go with custom ITX build because there was nothing with similar specs.
Great video as always! I was wondering if you could bring back the Landfill to LAN series for some future videos. I really enjoyed seeing what you could make with older systems that were destined to become e-waste.
Synology is putting up to many hurdles at this point. They don’t care unless you’re an Enterprise customer. And it’s looking like a lot of common apps will become subscriptions based, like Active Backup for Business.
The one thing that this needs to be perfect would be a half height pcie slot for a GPU. Being able to throw in say an Intel Arc 310 (or maybe an nvidia workstation card) for video encode/decode acceleration would be great. All the other hardware is great (ECC is especially neat since most prebuilt NAS's don't have ECC).
"...with 6 drives and 2 SSDs, it was pulling around 40W from the wall. That's not great, but not terrible by any means..." Isn't that quite good? With 6 drives alone you're probably pulling around 30W (5W per drive) while idling and maybe more while they are reading/writing. Which leaves around 10W for the system itself, which sounds fantastic.
A good reason why the Ryzen Embedded CPU is also nice for some use cases... if you don't need integrated graphics and just care about storage and some services that need a little compute, it is more power efficient than a number of other prebuilt NASes
A fun combo of hardware! I’d honestly love to see what m.2 based accelerators/“gpus” you could put into those 4x slots. Thanks for the overview & non-standard usage.
Always like the way you handle these reviews. You have to evaluate a prebuilt against both DIY and other prebuilts, so the software matters when making a buying decision. Synology's value for example relies almost entirely on it's software, because it's hardware is awful in comparison to others in it's price category. I think the lack of anything that can provide hardware transcoding really hurts the Asustor for a home user, but it's inclusion of high speed networking out of the box, as well as the option to run other software and ECC support make it a good small business option. Thanks!
Can anyone tell me which video is the one that is shown third in the intro and is described as “outright dump”? I can't find it. Looks for me like there is a GPU connected via a mini pcie slot to a intel NUC😊
13:00 So, It's important to note that, you shouldn't look at CPU load for Minecraft. As it's very singlethread dependent, the CPU wont be doing much, it's the clock speeds that count.
Actually you can access the 1st RAM slot and swap it by removing the trays. It won't be easy but with the right tools you can. ADM is better than most. Look at Unifi NAS 😂
Hello, I have a seagate blackarmor nas 400 with 8TB storage. I have issue can you help me. This NAS runs on smb Version 1. Can you help me how to change its smb version.
I have an older 6 bay Gen 2 and I've had no issues running both Truenas Scale and Unraid on it. Honestly, both of them run better than ADM, which freezes under large file transfers that pin the cpu. I gave up on ADM 4 since it was completely unreliable and wasn't even fit for use as a secondary, archive NAS from my primary server. Neither Unraid nor Truenas had this problem and today my Lockerstor runs Unraid using a ZFS pool. It's a bit disappointing that Asustor has not yet provided ADM 5 for older systems. Is this their way of encouraging people to upgrade their hardware?
@Hardware Haven, out of curiosity, why is TrueNAS your go to and not something like Unraid? I'm new to the home server world (migrating away from Synology).
TrueNAS is extremely powerful, free, and open source NAS software. That being said it isn't the most user friendly since it's aimed at enterprise, so I wouldn't recommend it unless you're already savvy with it, or you have time to tinker and follow guides for first time use. If you want something easier to use, but not as feature rich that's where unRAID comes in. There's also HexOS which is a consumer friendly layer on top of TrueNAS, but that isn't free and is currently in beta.
8:10 unfortunately... while might seem convenient, is for several reasons a really bad idea. Developing and delivering udpates for a "one app for all" could lead to more complicated development process and more persons "on hand" when something changes outside the system (new api from one cloud service) or the commercial relationship... ends. Or when a vulnerability or bad bug hits. While some persons "do all things with rsync" mounting remote services as part of file system... rsync is powerful but not good for all/everyone (someone might prefere restic, duplicati, rclone, syncthing). As system builder and most of the time.. sole user(ish) having "only one place" is faster and easier, but these boxes sometimes are shared with more entites (persons, offices, departents) so having different procedures allow not only to do "different thing", but also split access and control of "own stuff" between the actual data admins.. And if something fails, most of the times is confined in one place. Notification is the key for keeping tabs. this as general consideration... any mileage may vary
Hmm, wonder if that backplane is available as a spare part out of warranty. Honestly the only other thing i could have asked for would be a std itx motherboard.
Nice vid. I think the price is too much for the targeted user on all nas brands my point here is they all drop support or security updates from time to time and then you have to think about migrating to another brand or buy another one newer.
Check out how much even one 10 gb NIC costs, then add up a mobile low power ryzen CPU, ECC ram, etc. I guarantee you won't end up spending much less if you build custom. Trust me I did.
I've had issues with Tailscale on my Qnap as well: it's supposedly fixed, but I just avoid it now: I have it on my Router and can access shares anyhow.
Regarding to idle power, that's a whole another can of worms, there are many options in linux to enable deep sleep states etc. etc. I'm quite sure the 16W could be halved with some software tweaks.
Anything ASUS branded means no warranty service. ASUS has been nailed for unethical warranty policies. Never will buy from them again. Includes their motherboards, ROG, laptops, and NAS.
1. I would only ever consider buying a proprietary Nas If I can run truenas I would never use the operating system provided. 2. I have never bought a proprietary Nas because every single one seems to be ridiculously overpriced for what it is
The CPU has 20 PCIE lanes but the SSDs only get one each? With SSDs still costing 3 times as much per TB where I live, I'd rather get more HDDs if I can't even saturate the SSDs. Am I the crazy one? Because otherwise, this little NAS looks amazing.
Your limitation is the 10Gb network, 10Gb/s = 1.25GB/s. 1xpcie gen 4= 2.5GB. So as you can see, just 1 drive will saturate your network connection, but with ssd you still get the benefit of the access times. Even if it's just for cache it's worth to get one. The only thing you would get at full speed is more heat.
Would you ever really buy a very expensive NAS like this then put TrueNas on it, I don't think so. For that money you could build you own with much better hardware, certainly for less. Most NAS systems are overpriced, including the Ugreen which look like they are now coming to Europe and elsewhere.
im happy your ok you haven't released a new video in forever I think your last one was a members only video 2 weeks ago and the last one I got to see since I'm a non member was back in late 2024 I'm glad your ok
No statement otherwise, and an official TH-cam video showing you how to put TrueNAS on? No matter what your rep said, that sounds like enough evidence that it wouldn’t hold up in court if they didn’t support your hardware after installing TrueNAS.
It's dumb if they try to prevent that, for many prosumers the point of this box is that we can run TrueNAS on it, if Asus were smart they would embrace it as it would differentiate them from every other competitor, catering for our nerd market, but apparently not... sometimes I wonder why corporate suits have to be so detached from reality, normals won't be shelling out 1500 for a NAS, companies won't be buying this kind of boxes they use big data racks, it leaves only us prosumer nerds who don't want vendor lock-in but complete freedom for our data but apparently Asus disagrees... even simple marketing research like this youtube channel proves TrueNAS on box like this is what everyone wants but instead of embracing sales these NAS manufacturers try to combat against it... insanity
Some random Customer protection laws likely covered this ?
He literally said in the video that you still get hardware support.
at this price, i see no reason to buy that "just to put trunas" or another OS
@@Lunoluxexactly, like why would I pay such a premium for HW that I didn’t customize just to deal with TrueNAS’s acl issues or Unraid’s performance issues.
It's refreshing to see manufacturers being open on their hardware. Sure it may void your warranty and is unsupported but "you own your device" is the kind of thing that gets more attention.
Loading TrueNas shouldn’t void any warranty.
We should hold manufacturers to a higher standard.
Didn’t expect seeing you have exactly 300k subs congrats!
Ditto! 🎉
Great to see you back on YT Colten! Hope you have a great new year and look forward to your content!
Congratulations on reaching 300k subscribers. Your channel is amazing and I thoroughly enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work.
A main reason (as a business) I'd get Synology is for the cloud backup. It's well integrated and the pricing is pretty decent too, easily scale-able.
For a homeserver, personally I'd build my own and combine it with Unraid, but that's just me, I like having my drives shutdown 99% of the time and the way they do docker is amazing.
Is noise your problem or drive longevity? If you are running data drives they are designed to run 24/7 instead of constantly powering up and down, and last longer when spinning constantly.
@@GreySectoid it might also be about energy efficiency / lower idle power consumption
You can configure spindown in truenas, and you would get way better performance
As long as you can proof that the software wouldn't damage hardware, there's no legal way for companies to say you voided the warranty on hardware.
Doesn't mean they will try and make it difficult.
That's also why the sales rep was kinda vague about it.
If I only had $1500 to spend... It's nice to see a new video and congrats on 300k subscribers!
Just want to say that while your videos aren't always geared to me, they're always super interesting, and I like your content. You have a great delivery a direct delivery that is felt good. Neep up the good work.
This seems really nice box, I would have loved to have something like this a year back when I built my NAS, but had to go with custom ITX build because there was nothing with similar specs.
Synology also depreciated integrated graphics and hardware transcoding with the introduction to DSM 7.2.2
Only 40w for that much hardware and 6 spinning rust disks is damn good.
I LOVE that little OLED on the front
Great video as always! I was wondering if you could bring back the Landfill to LAN series for some future videos. I really enjoyed seeing what you could make with older systems that were destined to become e-waste.
Synology is putting up to many hurdles at this point. They don’t care unless you’re an Enterprise customer. And it’s looking like a lot of common apps will become subscriptions based, like Active Backup for Business.
Welcome back and congrats on reaching 300k subs, Colten!
The one thing that this needs to be perfect would be a half height pcie slot for a GPU. Being able to throw in say an Intel Arc 310 (or maybe an nvidia workstation card) for video encode/decode acceleration would be great. All the other hardware is great (ECC is especially neat since most prebuilt NAS's don't have ECC).
Have a nice day
Starts @3:20
"...with 6 drives and 2 SSDs, it was pulling around 40W from the wall. That's not great, but not terrible by any means..."
Isn't that quite good? With 6 drives alone you're probably pulling around 30W (5W per drive) while idling and maybe more while they are reading/writing. Which leaves around 10W for the system itself, which sounds fantastic.
A good reason why the Ryzen Embedded CPU is also nice for some use cases... if you don't need integrated graphics and just care about storage and some services that need a little compute, it is more power efficient than a number of other prebuilt NASes
A fun combo of hardware! I’d honestly love to see what m.2 based accelerators/“gpus” you could put into those 4x slots. Thanks for the overview & non-standard usage.
Same price for Ugreen DXP8800 Plus (8 bays, more ram, thunderbolt, x4 PCI slot) - downside no ECC ram (for some people matters)
Can it run Doom?
On the LCD display
Always like the way you handle these reviews. You have to evaluate a prebuilt against both DIY and other prebuilts, so the software matters when making a buying decision. Synology's value for example relies almost entirely on it's software, because it's hardware is awful in comparison to others in it's price category. I think the lack of anything that can provide hardware transcoding really hurts the Asustor for a home user, but it's inclusion of high speed networking out of the box, as well as the option to run other software and ECC support make it a good small business option. Thanks!
Do you think you could install a short riser board for a gpu?
Thanks for the new video, love every one that comes out!
Can anyone tell me which video is the one that is shown third in the intro and is described as “outright dump”? I can't find it. Looks for me like there is a GPU connected via a mini pcie slot to a intel NUC😊
Any idea what NAS's have the best hardware transcoding for Jellyfin? I'm not finding much info on this.
Needs to have an Intel CPU or dedicated GPU. AMD is worthless for transcoding. Basically the better the Intel CPU the better the transcoding.
13:00 So, It's important to note that, you shouldn't look at CPU load for Minecraft. As it's very singlethread dependent, the CPU wont be doing much, it's the clock speeds that count.
Actually you can access the 1st RAM slot and swap it by removing the trays. It won't be easy but with the right tools you can. ADM is better than most. Look at Unifi NAS 😂
Been waiting for the next video :D
Hello, I have a seagate blackarmor nas 400 with 8TB storage. I have issue can you help me. This NAS runs on smb Version 1. Can you help me how to change its smb version.
I have an older 6 bay Gen 2 and I've had no issues running both Truenas Scale and Unraid on it. Honestly, both of them run better than ADM, which freezes under large file transfers that pin the cpu.
I gave up on ADM 4 since it was completely unreliable and wasn't even fit for use as a secondary, archive NAS from my primary server. Neither Unraid nor Truenas had this problem and today my Lockerstor runs Unraid using a ZFS pool.
It's a bit disappointing that Asustor has not yet provided ADM 5 for older systems. Is this their way of encouraging people to upgrade their hardware?
What Rsync does it run? They found some critical vulnerabilities and patched them very recently
What do you do with old pc?
He stores it until needed for projects, at least that's what I remember
@dhoome1234ify ok ok ty
@Hardware Haven, out of curiosity, why is TrueNAS your go to and not something like Unraid? I'm new to the home server world (migrating away from Synology).
TrueNAS is extremely powerful, free, and open source NAS software. That being said it isn't the most user friendly since it's aimed at enterprise, so I wouldn't recommend it unless you're already savvy with it, or you have time to tinker and follow guides for first time use. If you want something easier to use, but not as feature rich that's where unRAID comes in. There's also HexOS which is a consumer friendly layer on top of TrueNAS, but that isn't free and is currently in beta.
8:10 unfortunately... while might seem convenient, is for several reasons a really bad idea.
Developing and delivering udpates for a "one app for all" could lead to more complicated development process and more persons "on hand" when something changes outside the system (new api from one cloud service) or the commercial relationship... ends. Or when a vulnerability or bad bug hits.
While some persons "do all things with rsync" mounting remote services as part of file system... rsync is powerful but not good for all/everyone (someone might prefere restic, duplicati, rclone, syncthing).
As system builder and most of the time.. sole user(ish) having "only one place" is faster and easier, but these boxes sometimes are shared with more entites (persons, offices, departents) so having different procedures allow not only to do "different thing", but also split access and control of "own stuff" between the actual data admins.. And if something fails, most of the times is confined in one place.
Notification is the key for keeping tabs.
this as general consideration... any mileage may vary
Colten where where you! We missed you! Glad ur back. What did you use for those businesses?
It would be interesting if this could run unraid (from usb drive) or even proxmox
Hmm, wonder if that backplane is available as a spare part out of warranty. Honestly the only other thing i could have asked for would be a std itx motherboard.
Nice vid. I think the price is too much for the targeted user on all nas brands my point here is they all drop support or security updates from time to time and then you have to think about migrating to another brand or buy another one newer.
You can buy a new Dell, HP, or Supermicro server for the same price
Which requires a rack and they make a lot of noise. Completely different customer base.
@@Bob_Smith19 Bruh. They sell tower servers too which run very quietly. And with the money you save you can pay the extra power consumption for years.
But what the point to trascoding anything in the 2025?
It’s only happens if the device you’re streaming to can’t play the format it’s in. Still plenty of devices that can’t natively play H265.
@Bob_Smith19 well, "plenty". Devices like that hardly can be usable nowdays, what is che point to watch a film on something like that
Thank you.
Fifteen hundred dollars. Damn.
Check out how much even one 10 gb NIC costs, then add up a mobile low power ryzen CPU, ECC ram, etc. I guarantee you won't end up spending much less if you build custom. Trust me I did.
I've had issues with Tailscale on my Qnap as well: it's supposedly fixed, but I just avoid it now: I have it on my Router and can access shares anyhow.
Regarding to idle power, that's a whole another can of worms, there are many options in linux to enable deep sleep states etc. etc. I'm quite sure the 16W could be halved with some software tweaks.
The title should be, “But can it run Doom?”
It was a joke lmao. A massive joke/meme in tech is testing if a device can run Doom.
Haha he deleted his comment.
Anything ASUS branded means no warranty service. ASUS has been nailed for unethical warranty policies. Never will buy from them again. Includes their motherboards, ROG, laptops, and NAS.
why should i buy this, if i want to run truenas? love my i5-8400 with 32 gb ram, 2x nvme and 6x sata in a fractal design define r5 case
18:00 Imo that power consumption is really bad considering what that is.
1. I would only ever consider buying a proprietary Nas If I can run truenas I would never use the operating system provided.
2. I have never bought a proprietary Nas because every single one seems to be ridiculously overpriced for what it is
I do wish there was an Intel/quicksync version. Thanks for the video.
The CPU has 20 PCIE lanes but the SSDs only get one each? With SSDs still costing 3 times as much per TB where I live, I'd rather get more HDDs if I can't even saturate the SSDs. Am I the crazy one? Because otherwise, this little NAS looks amazing.
get the flashstor. Same CPU and faaast storage
Your limitation is the 10Gb network, 10Gb/s = 1.25GB/s. 1xpcie gen 4= 2.5GB. So as you can see, just 1 drive will saturate your network connection, but with ssd you still get the benefit of the access times. Even if it's just for cache it's worth to get one. The only thing you would get at full speed is more heat.
Encode all your video to AV1 and you get smaller files that should direct play from jellyfin unless you're playing on an ancient device
Finally, HH is back.
Any way, $1500 for this is way overpriced for the hardware it has.
$1500 for something with so many down-sides in terms of versatility/usability, amazing.........
Yes
Nice
lol i swear Tech youtube is just one big advertisement.
It’s how the channels make money. If you the tech space is bad venture into the watch world.
Lockert store? lol
16 watts at idle is not incredible? idk what then is
Isn’t it pronounced As-U-Stor?
No
Of course Asustor will say they are independent from Asus...but I don't care I'm never trusting anything with Asus in it, especially Asu-stor-age
Would you ever really buy a very expensive NAS like this then put TrueNas on it, I don't think so. For that money you could build you own with much better hardware, certainly for less. Most NAS systems are overpriced, including the Ugreen which look like they are now coming to Europe and elsewhere.
WHY 4 network ports ? They must be cheap.
Epic
$1500,00 == R$8.870,70 ..... Super barato para nós brasileiros
The price is same everywhere.
Can I hook up USB to HDMI on my tv
How do you do it, using a phone or a tablet or a laptop or what?
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im happy your ok you haven't released a new video in forever I think your last one was a members only video 2 weeks ago and the last one I got to see since I'm a non member was back in late 2024 I'm glad your ok