In this storyline, Thorne takes "klcking someone while they're down" to a whole new level. If this scene is bad, it's nothing compared to when he corners drunk Macy with divorce papers _in front of Brooke at Brooke's house,_ the day after she's had a death in the family.
Line of the episode was definitely from Ridge: “God, how *stupid* could I be?” I can’t be the only one who cackled out loud and thought, “do you really want us to answer that?” Taylor, girl, I love you but you really should have turned in your psychiatrist’s license after this. She sounded so dumb, it was cringeworthy to watch. Stephanie, as per usual, puts all these fools into the shade.
I also cackled at that line. 😂 This is the first Steph has heard of this crazy story and already she is totally spot on. It must be really difficult for Steph to be the smartest person in the room, every time.
Taylor was just desperate to have a female friend besides Stephanie and that's why I think that she refused to see Morgan for who she was. What I never understood is why the writers never had Macy and Taylor become friends because after all they were sister-in-laws.
Even though I was never a big Macy fan, she doesn't deserve this. Her and Taylor always deserved better than the Forrester brothers! But Thorne's karma will come and I can't wait!
Yes, he spends the rest of his life chasing Ridge's discarded women when he could have had one completely devoted to him. Macy never dated, wanted or got involved with Ridge, unlike Brooke and Taylor.
I really cannot wait and I hope they show Brooke dumping him. I will play on repeat lol. That will only come 2nd to how much I enjoyed seeing Eric get treated like something under Brooke's shoe when she was ready to admit she didn't really want him, either.
Taylor's treated ppl just like Morgan...? She's treated ppl who have approached her to have her husband help them make a baby? Taylor's nice to the point of naive.🙄
But she is so out of character. Maybe she thinks only Brooke can be an issue for her marriage. But she was good at her job. And she sees Morgan's problem and acts openly to her wishes but she can't see Morgan as a threat.
@@babs4848 I don't see Taylor as so very out of character. She's always believed in the good of ppl (to the point of naivete), and Steph has always had to tell her what's what and to never let her guard down, esp wrt Brooke. Even when Brooke blatantly showed her intentions, Taylor would still try to give her the benefit of the doubt
@@babs4848unlike most of the people on here, I always thought Taylor was good at her job. But in her personal life, she's too naive and too trusting at times.
@@TriniT21However gullible Taylor may seem, Ridge SHOULD NOT have slept with Morgan. Period. Taylor is merely saying she wants to help Morgan. Doesn't Ridge know Taylor? His actions are inexcusable.
Soooo... Morgan basically says that if she isn't pregnant, they can all just forget about it. Umm... First of all.. Wut 😕 And secondly... Why would anyone take Morgan at her word about anything? If she is not pregnant, she won't forget about it. She won't stop til she is...
Macy's "it's not Becky is it?" is so in character. Her life is falling apart, she is battIing alcoholism, and yet when Thorne tells her he needs to talk to her about something serious her first thought is not about herself but about her little brother and his dying wife. Just like any attempts to portray Brooke as a Good Girl have been "glitchy" because Brooke keeps going back to her original archetype, the same thing happens whenever the show attempts to show Macy as anything _but_ a Good Girl - even when drunk, she keeps doing little things that restore her Good Girl status. (And Thorne replies that "Becky is stable", but how would he know? Macy, not Thorne, is the one who just came from visiting Becky in the hospital.)
Excellent point, and Bobbie Eakes did this subtle tone change, almost a softening, of her voice. It was very poignant. A sad connection between Becky and her as well, since soon both will be off the canvas.
@@FayeIL yes! I think Bobbie Eakes did a great job in these episodes, especially the way she keeps subtly modulating her tone of voice and facial expressions. Her acting is really what carries this whole storyline.
Shouldn't Thorne at least wait until a moment when Macy isn't _drunk_ before asking her for a divorce? And maybe make sure that someone is there with her, like her AA counselor? Is she even able to process what he's saying in her current condition? Will she remember it in the morning? On a side note, I didn't realize until watching this storyline again just how sudden Thorne's asking for a divorce really was, from Macy's perspective. Yes, the signs were all there, but Thorne has kept gaslighting Macy and talking about her "insecurities" as if there was no reason for her to feel insecure, while he keeps sharing a home _and a bed_ with her. And now he basically goes "just kidding, I have been wanting to leave you all along."
Macy being slapped in the face so many times, she is really strong character. And I can' wait for that loser to hear that Brooke still loves Ridge and for Brooke to lay in the mud in front of Big Bear house😂.
Thorne doesn't know she's drunk here since she conveniently forgot to tell him where she was and what she was doing prior to this interaction. And just like the hospital scene a few episodes back where she smuggles vodka in her purse, she has also been lying (by omission) to her husband about the extent of her drinking. And while criticism of Thorne is well deserved, this is deeply troubling behaviour coming from Macy IMO.
@@tropposteve4878 he is well aware of it because _Brooke_ called him and told him exactly where Macy was and what she was doing prior to this interaction. And Macy was noticeably drunk when she entered their house. And Thorne and Macy had a whole conversation about how Macy had been drinking, minutes before he decided to ask for the divorce.
Morgan's betrayal would have packed more of a punch if the so-called friendship between her, Taylor and Ridge had developed over more than two or three episodes
Notwithstanding the terrible circumstances of the sappy love triangle , the guy who plays Thorne deserved an award for his performance at the beach house. Very well done.
*_"What I don't understand is why you can't see that!"_* Stephanie is once again in Cassandra mode. She sees only too clearly what Morgan is up to, correctly narrates what has happened and what Morgan's end game is, and yet Taylor doesn't believe her, instead wanting to see the good in Morgan. And Stephanie's frustration is clearly visible as she does everything to make Taylor listen to her warnings, to no avail.
No one forced Ridge to do this! Taylor as a psychologist didn't understand what Morgan was up to. She manipulated them both perfectly. How stupid are they??
You know, if Adam (Myles) didn't leave L. A., what were the chances that he might have gone after Thorne for all the misfortune in his daughter's life (and her unalivement)?
I wish they kept him.. He never liked Thorne and I would have liked to see him defend his daughter. He looks like he can really throw a good punch. I'd have liked to see him rip into Brooke too
I can understand why you are torn. Normally I'd say Brooke off the bat (bc she is terrible), but listening to Morgan... 😳 She's basically like.. Yeah, yeah I tricked u and lied to you and your wife, but if I got what I want it's all worth it, so let's just move on.., 😐
I can understand why she was clinging onto the marriage. It's called the Sunk Cost Fallacy. They had been together for many years, overcoming every setback and obstacle that got in their way. Macy wasn't going to go down without a fight this time. Problem is, the relationship was never that healthy to begin with. How many times did Thorne walk out on her over some perceived misunderstanding? They had been married three times by this point, and between each of those weddings it had been an uphill battle to get there. I blame Thorne mostly for it, but some of it was Macy not wanting to divest from a toxic relationship (and her mother who kept pushing her to pursue a relationship with a Forrester man if you remember). I'm glad she finally woke up to herself and got away from him.
There's another aspect too. Macy is in her mid 30s. Her biological clock has started ticking really loud. She wants a family and she doesn't actually have a lot of time to find someone and start over.
I think it's the lighting in the scene that makes the colors look strange. It makes no sense that she would be having blue contacts in this scene, but I thought it looked that way too.
I don't get why Morgan can't just leave town, now that she _has closed the circle, the guilt/remorse are gone_ .... . She broke Ridge's trust and betrayed her friendship with Taylor, so why make it worse and stay in LA? Why not just leave town as Ridge suggested here? 🙄 If she is pregnant, it will create a mess for them all, she can be sure to be confronted by Stephanie and by Taylor too. Even if she isn't pregnant, that still won't undo the manipulation/betrayal. If she isn't, is she waiting for another chance to still get that baby?
@@Slavman99 spoiler spoiler spoiler Yes, Morgan did that after she lost her unborn son after a fall and then blamed Taylor. But even when Morgan kidnapped one of the twins, Morgan stayed in town and had threatened to sue FC because of breach of contract, so that she was allowed to keep working there. If it would really just be about having a child, Morgan could have had that: - her son might have lived, if she had distanced herself from LA and the Forresters when she got pregnant in 2000 - and maybe even her kidnapping might have not been found out as everyone first believed that Steffy had died. Was Morgan so vengeful or so delusional (thinking she could become a part of the family/company again)?
![[Full] 4 ต่อ 4 Celebrity EP.922 | 10 พ.ย. 67 | one31](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zmV5HRIxIBI/mqdefault.jpg)
![ปฏิเสธไม่ไหว (Crush on you) - LIPTA feat. No One Else [Official MV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/NBw1jF342vw/mqdefault.jpg)
Leaving sweet lovely Macy for that hobgoblin 😖
A silk purse or a sows ear
@@annlavine3576 good comparison.
Thorne obviously likes living in a pig pen
Haha, hobgoblin. 😂😂
*Rick:* "Thorne's not the kinda guy to kick someone when they're down."
Yeah he's the kind to s hoot someone in the head.
Your so right about that
LOL 😂😂
From behind 😂
Congrats on getting around algo with that. I have tried so many times 😂
In this storyline, Thorne takes "klcking someone while they're down" to a whole new level. If this scene is bad, it's nothing compared to when he corners drunk Macy with divorce papers _in front of Brooke at Brooke's house,_ the day after she's had a death in the family.
Taylor stop being fooled and listen to stephanie
Morgan: It was a clinical thing.
Clinical would have been the use of a cup and a turkey baster.
Brooke must be letting these Forrester men hit it from the back! 😂
😂
😂😂😂😂
😂🤣
If that's all it takes, the rest of the women must be pillow princesses.
You just figured that out? 😂
Line of the episode was definitely from Ridge: “God, how *stupid* could I be?” I can’t be the only one who cackled out loud and thought, “do you really want us to answer that?”
Taylor, girl, I love you but you really should have turned in your psychiatrist’s license after this. She sounded so dumb, it was cringeworthy to watch. Stephanie, as per usual, puts all these fools into the shade.
I also cackled at that line. 😂
This is the first Steph has heard of this crazy story and already she is totally spot on.
It must be really difficult for Steph to be the smartest person in the room, every time.
Yeah, they made our girl Taylor look stupid, but I think she's too naive and too trusting. She'll wake up much too late!
Answer: very stupid, Ridge. 😁
@@z-5reader939 we don't even have enough time to list all the ways Ridge is stupid😂
Taylor was just desperate to have a female friend besides Stephanie and that's why I think that she refused to see Morgan for who she was. What I never understood is why the writers never had Macy and Taylor become friends because after all they were sister-in-laws.
Missed opportunity for Taylor to give Macy some free therapy sessions, but I think the writers wanted her gone ASAP.
My words exactly!
Even though I was never a big Macy fan, she doesn't deserve this. Her and Taylor always deserved better than the Forrester brothers! But Thorne's karma will come and I can't wait!
Yes, he spends the rest of his life chasing Ridge's discarded women when he could have had one completely devoted to him. Macy never dated, wanted or got involved with Ridge, unlike Brooke and Taylor.
The last 2 settled for him because they couldn't have Ridge. IMO, Taylor got with Thorne because she felt guilty for killing Darla.
DEUTSCH
Thorne asked for it!
I like Macy's and Taylor's dresses❤
Yes they have taste.
Brooke and Morgan don't.
Oh look, Ridge running Morgan out of town and not wanting her to be pregnant ...just like his mom did.
Yea, let's get d "I told u" t-shirts out !!
Thorne 🤬!! You are sooo gonna pay for choosing Brooke over Macy ! ☠️
After this I hope they show us S14 so we can all see Thorne come crawIing back to Macy's _grave_ asking for forgiveness and another chance...
Karma will be so sweet!
Thorne has no backbone...
Stephanie always said none of the Forrester men have a backbone when it comes to Brooke!
I really cannot wait and I hope they show Brooke dumping him. I will play on repeat lol.
That will only come 2nd to how much I enjoyed seeing Eric get treated like something under Brooke's shoe when she was ready to admit she didn't really want him, either.
Jeff trachta thorne will never hurt Macy like this. 😢😢😢😢
Are you serious? He had her living with him and another woman, and dating them both! I think she's use to being degraded by Thorne!
Taylor's treated ppl just like Morgan...? She's treated ppl who have approached her to have her husband help them make a baby?
Taylor's nice to the point of naive.🙄
Trish, that's what I've been saying all along! The tragedy will unfold...
But she is so out of character. Maybe she thinks only Brooke can be an issue for her marriage. But she was good at her job. And she sees Morgan's problem and acts openly to her wishes but she can't see Morgan as a threat.
@@babs4848 I don't see Taylor as so very out of character. She's always believed in the good of ppl (to the point of naivete), and Steph has always had to tell her what's what and to never let her guard down, esp wrt Brooke.
Even when Brooke blatantly showed her intentions, Taylor would still try to give her the benefit of the doubt
@@babs4848unlike most of the people on here, I always thought Taylor was good at her job. But in her personal life, she's too naive and too trusting at times.
@@TriniT21However gullible Taylor may seem, Ridge SHOULD NOT have slept with Morgan. Period. Taylor is merely saying she wants to help Morgan. Doesn't Ridge know Taylor? His actions are inexcusable.
Stephanie would make a Better psychiatrist than Taylor
All day
Soooo... Morgan basically says that if she isn't pregnant, they can all just forget about it. Umm...
First of all.. Wut 😕
And secondly... Why would anyone take Morgan at her word about anything? If she is not pregnant, she won't forget about it. She won't stop til she is...
Rick's concern for Macy indicates that, at the very least, he has some slither of humanity. He certainly didn't inherit that from his mother.
Macy's "it's not Becky is it?" is so in character.
Her life is falling apart, she is battIing alcoholism, and yet when Thorne tells her he needs to talk to her about something serious her first thought is not about herself but about her little brother and his dying wife.
Just like any attempts to portray Brooke as a Good Girl have been "glitchy" because Brooke keeps going back to her original archetype, the same thing happens whenever the show attempts to show Macy as anything _but_ a Good Girl - even when drunk, she keeps doing little things that restore her Good Girl status.
(And Thorne replies that "Becky is stable", but how would he know? Macy, not Thorne, is the one who just came from visiting Becky in the hospital.)
Excellent point, and Bobbie Eakes did this subtle tone change, almost a softening, of her voice. It was very poignant. A sad connection between Becky and her as well, since soon both will be off the canvas.
@@FayeIL yes! I think Bobbie Eakes did a great job in these episodes, especially the way she keeps subtly modulating her tone of voice and facial expressions. Her acting is really what carries this whole storyline.
Thorne was a lousy husband to Macy.
They never should have killed Grant off.
He really and truly loves her.
Save the prayers for yourself, Taylor!
She can save some for Macy too 😭
@@ambika66681yup.
And get some holy water too to spray on both Morgan and Brooke.
@@ambika66681yep😪😪
Yes our beautiful lovely Taylor will need it.
Who in their right mind would leave Macy or Taylor for a goblin like Brooke??
The blindsided Forrester wimps!😂😂
Goblin. 😂😂
It always kills me how they almost never sit down even when they’re at home and having a serious conversation
Shouldn't Thorne at least wait until a moment when Macy isn't _drunk_ before asking her for a divorce? And maybe make sure that someone is there with her, like her AA counselor? Is she even able to process what he's saying in her current condition? Will she remember it in the morning?
On a side note, I didn't realize until watching this storyline again just how sudden Thorne's asking for a divorce really was, from Macy's perspective. Yes, the signs were all there, but Thorne has kept gaslighting Macy and talking about her "insecurities" as if there was no reason for her to feel insecure, while he keeps sharing a home _and a bed_ with her. And now he basically goes "just kidding, I have been wanting to leave you all along."
Macy being slapped in the face so many times, she is really strong character. And I can' wait for that loser to hear that Brooke still loves Ridge and for Brooke to lay in the mud in front of Big Bear house😂.
Thorne doesn't know she's drunk here since she conveniently forgot to tell him where she was and what she was doing prior to this interaction. And just like the hospital scene a few episodes back where she smuggles vodka in her purse, she has also been lying (by omission) to her husband about the extent of her drinking. And while criticism of Thorne is well deserved, this is deeply troubling behaviour coming from Macy IMO.
Telling Macy their marriage was a "horrible mistake"?
😐
Even I felt to drink on macy's behalf.
@@TriniT21 That was pretty savage!
@@tropposteve4878 he is well aware of it because _Brooke_ called him and told him exactly where Macy was and what she was doing prior to this interaction. And Macy was noticeably drunk when she entered their house. And Thorne and Macy had a whole conversation about how Macy had been drinking, minutes before he decided to ask for the divorce.
This 😂 is for all Brooke' s echo chamber in the history of the show.
Now it is for Rick.
Stephanie, you are right. There is a pattern. Your son can't keep it in his pants.
Morgan's betrayal would have packed more of a punch if the so-called friendship between her, Taylor and Ridge had developed over more than two or three episodes
Thank you so much for this episode and I hope that everyone is having a great day too
Notwithstanding the terrible circumstances of the sappy love triangle , the guy who plays Thorne deserved an award for his performance at the beach house. Very well done.
Quit dragging it out, Thorne, and cut to the snapper! 😂😂
Morgan is so flip ping u&ly!
Poor Stephanie!
Nobody is listening to her.
She has been right about Brooke and Morgan from the very beginning!
*_"What I don't understand is why you can't see that!"_*
Stephanie is once again in Cassandra mode. She sees only too clearly what Morgan is up to, correctly narrates what has happened and what Morgan's end game is, and yet Taylor doesn't believe her, instead wanting to see the good in Morgan. And Stephanie's frustration is clearly visible as she does everything to make Taylor listen to her warnings, to no avail.
What is Cassandra mode please?
@@elaineellard5848 being able to predict the future, but nobody believes you. Like the Troian princess Cassandra in Greek mythology.
No one forced Ridge to do this! Taylor as a psychologist didn't understand what Morgan was up to. She manipulated them both perfectly. How stupid are they??
Some friendship
Thorne some BS period, definitely this character of him
You know, if Adam (Myles) didn't leave L. A., what were the chances that he might have gone after Thorne for all the misfortune in his daughter's life (and her unalivement)?
I wish they kept him.. He never liked Thorne and I would have liked to see him defend his daughter. He looks like he can really throw a good punch.
I'd have liked to see him rip into Brooke too
I don't think Adam would ever have let it go that far. He would have gone after Thorne much sooner and not allowed Macy to self-destruct.
I'm Torn over who is More Unattractive and who is More
Wh😮re ish
It's a Toss Up between Morgan and Brooke
I can understand why you are torn.
Normally I'd say Brooke off the bat (bc she is terrible), but listening to Morgan... 😳
She's basically like.. Yeah, yeah I tricked u and lied to you and your wife, but if I got what I want it's all worth it, so let's just move on.., 😐
The answer is Ridge. Ridge is the biggest tramp on the show.
Both equally, no question for me!
Biggest h o on the show is Ridge
@@TriniT21Morgan is crazy and very dangerous.
Brooke only is nuts.
While I don’t like what Thorne has done, Macy was a bit too clingy.
I can understand why she was clinging onto the marriage. It's called the Sunk Cost Fallacy. They had been together for many years, overcoming every setback and obstacle that got in their way. Macy wasn't going to go down without a fight this time. Problem is, the relationship was never that healthy to begin with. How many times did Thorne walk out on her over some perceived misunderstanding? They had been married three times by this point, and between each of those weddings it had been an uphill battle to get there. I blame Thorne mostly for it, but some of it was Macy not wanting to divest from a toxic relationship (and her mother who kept pushing her to pursue a relationship with a Forrester man if you remember). I'm glad she finally woke up to herself and got away from him.
There's another aspect too. Macy is in her mid 30s. Her biological clock has started ticking really loud. She wants a family and she doesn't actually have a lot of time to find someone and start over.
Hmmmm, Taylor, you need to listen to Stephanie!
Why is Macy just lining her lips and no lipstick? Weird blue contacts in one scene and brown the next scene. The extensions looked good.
I was thinking the same thing, the hair extensions, the blue contacts..
I think it's the lighting in the scene that makes the colors look strange. It makes no sense that she would be having blue contacts in this scene, but I thought it looked that way too.
@@annieo6527 no she’s definitely had blue contacts in and must have taken them out between takes. The lipliner looks ridiculous.
I don't get why Morgan can't just leave town, now that she _has closed the circle, the guilt/remorse are gone_ .... .
She broke Ridge's trust and betrayed her friendship with Taylor, so why make it worse and stay in LA? Why not just leave town as Ridge suggested here? 🙄
If she is pregnant, it will create a mess for them all, she can be sure to be confronted by Stephanie and by Taylor too.
Even if she isn't pregnant, that still won't undo the manipulation/betrayal. If she isn't, is she waiting for another chance to still get that baby?
Morgan has to kidnap one of Ridge's kids and also hold Taylor hostage (as far as I remember, my memory is muddled from this show).
@@Slavman99
spoiler
spoiler
spoiler
Yes, Morgan did that after she lost her unborn son after a fall and then blamed Taylor. But even when Morgan kidnapped one of the twins, Morgan stayed in town and had threatened to sue FC because of breach of contract, so that she was allowed to keep working there.
If it would really just be about having a child, Morgan could have had that:
- her son might have lived, if she had distanced herself from LA and the Forresters when she got pregnant in 2000 - and maybe even her kidnapping might have not been found out as everyone first believed that Steffy had died.
Was Morgan so vengeful or so delusional (thinking she could become a part of the family/company again)?
Brooke is a very exciting character. Not Taylor or Macy
where is episode 2120?????
Brooke keeps wearing the skankiest clothes. So does Morgan.