I'm thinking that solid engine and trans mount comment was some foreshadowing... especially after switching up the tune and running in 3rd, you can see the shifter rock back and forth during clutch kicks. That's probably knocking it out of second if it's hitting the trim when it rocks
That’s exactly what it’s doing… it’s just plain simple sense .. the trans and mtr are moving the shifter is rigid ( hence chassis mount = solid mount to frame rubber mtr and trans mount not solid ) the shifter doesn’t have to hit anything the movement of trans and the non movement of the shifter is enough to knock it out
Hey! Some advice. On damn near every car, especially BMW’s. It is MANDATORY to have at least 75D poly or solid aluminum motor and trans mounts. The motor and trans move around a lot, so with the shifter being directly mounted to the chassis, you will face issues like it popping out of gear or not going into gear. Abusing the car like this with stock mounts can also tear up the trans tunnel where the shifter bolts on. It will tweak and bend it, and in extreme cases it can even tear. Some of my favorite mounts are from AKG Motorsport. Stay away from Condor and Garagistic as they have insanely high NVH and will make your teeth chatter and interior rattle, I prefer solid aluminum over condor or Garagistic stiff polyurethane. Also, 5w-40 > 0w40 for these engines. Especially with hotter climates down here in the southeast. This one is a little more of an opinion, but I’ve been working at dealers and independent repair shops on BMW’s for years and we usually run heavier weight oil. LM 5w-40, Motul 10w-60, 15w-50, sometimes even Rotella 5w-40 or 15w-40 are some of our favorites. I know there could be a lot of controversy about oil weight and type, but this is just my input.
@@e36_cameron I put it in everything. But I'm poor and crippled now and can't afford new cars so I figure it's best in the long run. Plus it's not any more expensive than regular oil. T-4 rotella at Walmart is usually like 22 bucks for a 5 qt. Jug. Can't beat that with a stick! I'm in Memphis, TN, so just as hot, not as pretty as Georgia. Gas and shit is cheap here tho
I have the CAE in my F80 and I track it with no issues, but it was tricky to set up and keep the shifter from interfering with the chassis. Super tight tolerance, like 0.5 - 1mm adjustment needed to fix the interference. Adjustment at the shifter to gearbox shift rod.
Yo Taylor I’ve heard of this happening with chassis mounted shifters on e36’s when the engine mounts are too soft. If moving it doesn’t solve the issue then engine and gearbox mounts could be your problem
I saw kinda and waited for the blow up…but it was actually used in proper context. Crazy thought 😂 Looks good!! So smooth…gives casual dad vibes watching you sway around out there in it…super chill 😎
Some of my favorite content is fabricating and I think it would be cool if you built a trailer for the m3. Would be perfect for trips and let you drop it and drift right away, and also keep the weight out of the car so your suspension can be set up without worrying about the cargo. Something designed to handle fast cruising too. I’d enjoy that personally.
i think the reason he wouldn’t do this is because he wanted this car to be a drive to to track and drive it right away kinda deal but this idea would be cool
@@andrewhawk2154I think it would make that even easier. No loading up tools and unloading at the track. Hitch on trailer and go. Just keep it loaded with the basics. Would make it a lot easier with taking spares and stuff. Main reason I’m curious if he’d do it is for the longer trips like drift week.
solid monting a shifter on a chassis and a rocking engine with soft mounts. what could go wrong 👀 you know better than this. it never works, and the throw just seems so annoyingly short.
Looks like every time you pull the e brake it flexes that chassis mount shifter. Reinforce the area around the shifter my guy. Maybe that will help? Just an observation
You taking the white F80 to the Dragon? I'm going over from Nashville on Saturday and will be there for 3-4 days. I'll give you a honk if I see ya, I'll be in a black Sky Redline probably with the top down...
That helmet is a real classic Taylor. Nothing like red metal-flake with chrome trim. Who needs a wussy chin bar, especially in a car. How old is the helmet? What brand is it? My first helmet was a much uglier open face with a broken ear. Got in an accident with it and I didn't die but the ear ripped off the helmet. Good times if you survive it.
Seeing how even bmw gets it and has a cartridge filter off the top… My hemi is so stupid to change the oil and don’t even get me started on the ‘hemi tick’
He dropped a video about a month ago on the white fc he was tuning. You can catch a glimpse of it in this video. Badass little 500+hp rig. Driver is learning. You already know shit is about to be sketchy when John Vargas is on the scene
AdamLZ had that eastern european company add a "clutch" to the 8HP in his Supra and from what I can find the DCT is also a getrag unit so it might be possible
Obviously you can do an aftermarket kit with standalone controller, I just wondered if someone had done it in its native setting. It doesn't defeat the purpose of a dual clutch trans. It's so you can drift with a more common dct F80. I'd argue it would be better, you can shift under power through drift etc etc.
Just noticed you said you were going to the dragon...I live 10 min away. It's ok but there are many way better roads here in Blount County then the dragon. Its too crowded to do anything during the day.
Taylor confused me on one thing he said in this video. He said a longer shifter makes it feel more like a race car. I am around circle track drivers mostly and they all prefer short shifters so they can get through the gears quicker Is it just the people I talk to or different types of racers like different length throw of shifters? I thought semidrivers are the ones that like long shifters.
What changes the throw is the fulcrum point. I have the exact same shifter in my e36 and several short shifters that were “tall” but the fulcrum point was changed.
I'm not sure if you've already considered or done this, but you should look into securing the crank hub on this car. They are known to rotate and cause engine failures. You may also check out the equal length exhausts some companies make for these cars. They sound phenomenal! :D
EL exhausts sound kinda odd with catless DPs though. also he has a full titanium exhaust which sounds surprisingly good. havent heard that exhaust prior to him using it
@@omitence not an expert, but I do believe this has a lot to do with pipe diameter and if you're running the oem exhaust valves (they can get VERY rattly with time). I've only driven fully OEM F80 Competition and CSs though, so I'm only speaking from hearing videos and having installed an el front pipe on my Skyline (which sounds INCREDIBLE).
Since you drift it, I would recommend running Liqui Moly 5W40 oil. 0W40 is really only for fuel efficiency and will start to thin out in higher rpms for long periods of time. Just my 2 cents tho. Love the F80 content!
5W is only for flow rate when cold.. both oils at operating temp will behave like a 40 weight.. there's no difference between the two.. if you had said 5w 60 or 0w 60 or 10w 60 then I could see your point
The shifter might be what makes him need to do more upgrades that require more upgrades and then keep going down the rabbit hole til no longer streetable.
I just realized that Taylor would be completely unrecognizable if he shaved his beard and took his glasses off and dressed like a bible salesman…..or an amish man.
@@chefbodes5794 he's clearly got the funding for some nice stuff, but IDK about diesel performance. Once you start introducing all that crazy torque, everything has to be so incredibly beefy that the scales start sweating too. Straight line is ok, but I would imagine it's a real struggle to maintain desired handling characteristics with a half ton powerplant. Even small diesels weigh twice as much as gasoline equivalent engines. Would surely be cool to watch. I think too expensive and time consuming for such a limited use case though. I guess there's a reason you don't see them in grid
So besides lack of experience and you needing more time in the vette in a comp setting, what else did you learn from Riverside? How do you feel you compare to other borderline amateur/pro spec people? I've followed you for a long time and know what you have won. But you're starting to tap in to a side of this world you really never have been capable before with the Miata. Do you still think you can do it with more experience? Do you still think you have the "it" to do it? I don't want the politically correct answer. I want to know what you truly think.
I don't know if anyone suggested this yet. With BIMMERCODE you can actually flash the car so the BMW ding noise is gone. It annoys me so much when i get in my bmw, so i love the fact i can turn it off
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I'm thinking that solid engine and trans mount comment was some foreshadowing... especially after switching up the tune and running in 3rd, you can see the shifter rock back and forth during clutch kicks. That's probably knocking it out of second if it's hitting the trim when it rocks
I had to do solid trans mounts with my chassis mount in my e36 so it definitely could be
That’s exactly what it’s doing… it’s just plain simple sense .. the trans and mtr are moving the shifter is rigid ( hence chassis mount = solid mount to frame rubber mtr and trans mount not solid ) the shifter doesn’t have to hit anything the movement of trans and the non movement of the shifter is enough to knock it out
@@jasonsparshott7208 exactly, I'm always surprised at how many people don't think about this. Seems like common sense to me, guess not for some people
Hey! Some advice. On damn near every car, especially BMW’s. It is MANDATORY to have at least 75D poly or solid aluminum motor and trans mounts. The motor and trans move around a lot, so with the shifter being directly mounted to the chassis, you will face issues like it popping out of gear or not going into gear. Abusing the car like this with stock mounts can also tear up the trans tunnel where the shifter bolts on. It will tweak and bend it, and in extreme cases it can even tear.
Some of my favorite mounts are from AKG Motorsport. Stay away from Condor and Garagistic as they have insanely high NVH and will make your teeth chatter and interior rattle, I prefer solid aluminum over condor or Garagistic stiff polyurethane.
Also, 5w-40 > 0w40 for these engines. Especially with hotter climates down here in the southeast. This one is a little more of an opinion, but I’ve been working at dealers and independent repair shops on BMW’s for years and we usually run heavier weight oil. LM 5w-40, Motul 10w-60, 15w-50, sometimes even Rotella 5w-40 or 15w-40 are some of our favorites. I know there could be a lot of controversy about oil weight and type, but this is just my input.
If you're beating on a car especially down here in the south, you can never go wrong with rotella.
@@philbert006 yes sir! I completely agree. I run that in all my BMW’s, I’m down in Georgia.
@@e36_cameron I put it in everything. But I'm poor and crippled now and can't afford new cars so I figure it's best in the long run. Plus it's not any more expensive than regular oil. T-4 rotella at Walmart is usually like 22 bucks for a 5 qt. Jug. Can't beat that with a stick! I'm in Memphis, TN, so just as hot, not as pretty as Georgia. Gas and shit is cheap here tho
Needs roof mounted tire holder if you aren’t rocking the roof pod.
The one-handed drifts when you where holding the shifter in second gear looked sick!
I have the CAE in my F80 and I track it with no issues, but it was tricky to set up and keep the shifter from interfering with the chassis. Super tight tolerance, like 0.5 - 1mm adjustment needed to fix the interference. Adjustment at the shifter to gearbox shift rod.
Yo Taylor I’ve heard of this happening with chassis mounted shifters on e36’s when the engine mounts are too soft. If moving it doesn’t solve the issue then engine and gearbox mounts could be your problem
10:47
@@mattmanyamthanks I seen in another comment that he mentioned it but couldn’t find in in the video
Taylor Ray day always a great day!!!! you sir are my favorite person to watch
Gotta give Roldo props for the weight he's lost!
Looks so effortless its crazy
so jealous of the m3's man keeping me driven to get there myself. love thos f80's so much.
I saw kinda and waited for the blow up…but it was actually used in proper context. Crazy thought 😂 Looks good!! So smooth…gives casual dad vibes watching you sway around out there in it…super chill 😎
Some of my favorite content is fabricating and I think it would be cool if you built a trailer for the m3. Would be perfect for trips and let you drop it and drift right away, and also keep the weight out of the car so your suspension can be set up without worrying about the cargo. Something designed to handle fast cruising too. I’d enjoy that personally.
i think the reason he wouldn’t do this is because he wanted this car to be a drive to to track and drive it right away kinda deal but this idea would be cool
@@andrewhawk2154I think it would make that even easier. No loading up tools and unloading at the track. Hitch on trailer and go. Just keep it loaded with the basics. Would make it a lot easier with taking spares and stuff. Main reason I’m curious if he’d do it is for the longer trips like drift week.
you would still have some extra weight because you want tongue weight on your trailer but definitely easier to load and unload
solid monting a shifter on a chassis and a rocking engine with soft mounts. what could go wrong 👀 you know better than this. it never works, and the throw just seems so annoyingly short.
Man you need that nutsandbolts hookup
Definitely because u have stock engine and transmission mounts hopefully you don't mess up the transmission
Always love the f80 content. You were some of my inspiration for me to get my f30 340i.
Looks like every time you pull the e brake it flexes that chassis mount shifter. Reinforce the area around the shifter my guy. Maybe that will help? Just an observation
Haven't been here in awhile Taylor has spent some serious money. Holy shit
Im ready for some monte carlo content
I love that car T-Ray!! It's F-n sick looking!!❤
did you ever fix the factory diff locking motor situation? i remember you put it back in but never shown it in a vid recently
gotta love those florida down pours making the shop a tin can in a blender
CAE Racing makes some really good shifters too. :)
Did you really have to cut out what happened at 16:06 😂😂😂😂😂
If ain't broke don't fix it 💯
Its a slippery slope! Solid/stiff engine mounts next.
24:40 Was that a Vargas Brother sighting? Mazda at super high temps....
Looked like it
that was john vargas. hes been pretty off the radar since he fled California and the warrant out for his arrest there for screwing people over
Great content, as always. Good luck with the shifter relocation.
You taking the white F80 to the Dragon? I'm going over from Nashville on Saturday and will be there for 3-4 days. I'll give you a honk if I see ya, I'll be in a black Sky Redline probably with the top down...
Love that garage
Ah! Taylor is going to the dragon too early! Miatas at the Gap is at the beginning of next month!
Would love to see more of the MCSS
Anyone else want to see a “garage built co.” graphic going down the side to match the vette?
Please do a vid with the vargas boys
New shifter definitely seems important since the car s job is to drift
This car would be perfect for USAir 👀
Seeing someone rip a m3 like this is so baller 😂❤❤
That helmet is a real classic Taylor. Nothing like red metal-flake with chrome trim. Who needs a wussy chin bar, especially in a car.
How old is the helmet? What brand is it? My first helmet was a much uglier open face with a broken ear. Got in an accident with it and I didn't die but the ear ripped off the helmet. Good times if you survive it.
What year is the M3 again? & what package?
Well actually ill go back & watch build videos again. But know comments help
The Monte's belt squeals on startup just like my old Nissan Hardbody 😂
If an old Nissan hard body ain't belt squealing then it ain't running.
Seeing how even bmw gets it and has a cartridge filter off the top…
My hemi is so stupid to change the oil and don’t even get me started on the ‘hemi tick’
9:39 Your hand was in the way and it gave me blue balls!
I thought you were drifting the monte carlo out of the garage there in the beginning 😂
That belt squeal sounded a lot like tire squeal fo sho
The Monte belt squeal sounds like a rental car burnout lol
Great content thanks for sharing
I can’t believe you compared that setup to little Cesar’s….. it’s at least papa John’s!!! 😂
gonna need the solid engine mounts now
Everytime I see the bmw It just makes me miss the cefiro
The appearance of vargas lol
Straight walked away from dude 😂
He dropped a video about a month ago on the white fc he was tuning. You can catch a glimpse of it in this video. Badass little 500+hp rig. Driver is learning. You already know shit is about to be sketchy when John Vargas is on the scene
You can prolly fit a tarp in the trunk too lol!
Your homie is fried!!!!
Taylor Ray is like that local diner that Gordon wishes he found. You hesitate to boast because it might taint the authenticity.
Change your filter before draining the oil, the oil from the filter housing makes it way down to pan after you open the lid
... and so, the drift missile transformation begins...
Link for shifter?
Is there a clutch emulator setup so you could run a third pedal in a dct m3?
It defeat the purpose of dual clutch.
Should get a sequential gearbox then.
AdamLZ had that eastern european company add a "clutch" to the 8HP in his Supra and from what I can find the DCT is also a getrag unit so it might be possible
Obviously you can do an aftermarket kit with standalone controller, I just wondered if someone had done it in its native setting.
It doesn't defeat the purpose of a dual clutch trans. It's so you can drift with a more common dct F80. I'd argue it would be better, you can shift under power through drift etc etc.
need a adjustable shifter link
It pops out of 2nd only when he pulls on the E brake
Just noticed you said you were going to the dragon...I live 10 min away. It's ok but there are many way better roads here in Blount County then the dragon. Its too crowded to do anything during the day.
I dunno man, it also looked like the whole console and the shifter was moving every time you pulled the e-brake. It could be as simple as that.
Taylor confused me on one thing he said in this video. He said a longer shifter makes it feel more like a race car. I am around circle track drivers mostly and they all prefer short shifters so they can get through the gears quicker
Is it just the people I talk to or different types of racers like different length throw of shifters? I thought semidrivers are the ones that like long shifters.
What changes the throw is the fulcrum point. I have the exact same shifter in my e36 and several short shifters that were “tall” but the fulcrum point was changed.
Vargas bro!
Why not use the tried and true CAE?
are you now back to using the dif w/o the lock mechanic?
Yeah! With the ABS sensors all working it does great.
@@Taylordrifts amazing! thanks for the reply
definitely could've had a tent on the m3 lol
I'm not sure if you've already considered or done this, but you should look into securing the crank hub on this car. They are known to rotate and cause engine failures.
You may also check out the equal length exhausts some companies make for these cars. They sound phenomenal! :D
He's done it
EL exhausts sound kinda odd with catless DPs though. also he has a full titanium exhaust which sounds surprisingly good. havent heard that exhaust prior to him using it
@@omitence It's a matter of taste I think. I personally love how the equal length takes away the raspiness and makes the exhaust note a lot smoother
@@n3er0o fair, i do believe the EL gets raspy around 2k on catless setups though, hence why ive seen a few people go back to a single mid
@@omitence not an expert, but I do believe this has a lot to do with pipe diameter and if you're running the oem exhaust valves (they can get VERY rattly with time). I've only driven fully OEM F80 Competition and CSs though, so I'm only speaking from hearing videos and having installed an el front pipe on my Skyline (which sounds INCREDIBLE).
I can’t remember did both cars get the crank hub fix or was that just the drift car?
Both !
Later gotta go bye ! thats funny , nice video!
Awesome
CAE malkes a chassis mount that you don’t have to cut anything
Is that a zhp shift knob?
And this is why chassis mounted shifters are terrible. Sorry you had to learn the hard way.
Dang
Aren't going to use the Vette?
BABE WAKE UP NEW TAYLOR VIDEO
When’re we gonna build a yolked up small block for that Monte
Well hopefully it just gets a badass big block right away. I don’t see the appeal of a small block.
@@josephsamsor1698 fast/high revving
Less than a minute.and im here!
Since you drift it, I would recommend running Liqui Moly 5W40 oil. 0W40 is really only for fuel efficiency and will start to thin out in higher rpms for long periods of time. Just my 2 cents tho. Love the F80 content!
5W is only for flow rate when cold.. both oils at operating temp will behave like a 40 weight.. there's no difference between the two.. if you had said 5w 60 or 0w 60 or 10w 60 then I could see your point
Yep usually you know something aint right once Taylor start swearing ahaha , Love the video man can't wait for the next video with Ben and Chelsea!
Its moving while under throttle
4:25 you put too much force on your shifting. Take it easy. Réflexes are not strengh. Smooth Can be fast.
Just add more horsepower and or gearing and use 3rd and 4th 🤷♂️
Lets go new upload
Nine to have 2 beamers. Depending what mood you're in
Can we get some Monty content soon?
So is this one going down the rabbit hole for upgrades...?
The shifter might be what makes him need to do more upgrades that require more upgrades and then keep going down the rabbit hole til no longer streetable.
Need some dove soap on those belts
Currently eating little Ceasars 😂
Passengers without a cage at OSW?!?!?
Post more plz
I just realized that Taylor would be completely unrecognizable if he shaved his beard and took his glasses off and dressed like a bible salesman…..or an amish man.
Goon bag of oil!
Dont drink it!,,
Bro you edited out a street drift don’t lie
Notification squad!
bye synchros
Should do a diesel build
He did. See the fummins.
He likes his bmws a lot so I think he should get a 335d. With hybrid turbos and a manual swap it would be a crazy good drift car.
@@philbert006 mean performance wise
@@chefbodes5794 he's clearly got the funding for some nice stuff, but IDK about diesel performance. Once you start introducing all that crazy torque, everything has to be so incredibly beefy that the scales start sweating too. Straight line is ok, but I would imagine it's a real struggle to maintain desired handling characteristics with a half ton powerplant. Even small diesels weigh twice as much as gasoline equivalent engines. Would surely be cool to watch. I think too expensive and time consuming for such a limited use case though. I guess there's a reason you don't see them in grid
No. Diesel is for trucking. Leave it here.
So besides lack of experience and you needing more time in the vette in a comp setting, what else did you learn from Riverside? How do you feel you compare to other borderline amateur/pro spec people? I've followed you for a long time and know what you have won. But you're starting to tap in to a side of this world you really never have been capable before with the Miata. Do you still think you can do it with more experience? Do you still think you have the "it" to do it? I don't want the politically correct answer. I want to know what you truly think.
Damn I'm early
Now just need a pop up tint for when it rains
And then maybe a couple shades darker on the window tent.
@@ronjones-6977😂
I don't know if anyone suggested this yet. With BIMMERCODE you can actually flash the car so the BMW ding noise is gone. It annoys me so much when i get in my bmw, so i love the fact i can turn it off