Okay I know I'm hella late to this party, but I've received no less than 40,000 comments telling me to check this out so evidently now is a good time since the sequel just dropped.
Lmaooooo, that’s fantastic. I highly appreciate your work too, this video even mentions your Thaumaturgy video briefly. I can see how the audiences crossover.
omg I've been waiting for this for ages!!!!!! I even started reading Spinal Catastrophism. There are sections that literally make my heart race with excitement. I'd like to read them aloud, to scream them to the world. Other passages... are so dense. I do read it very slowly, but it's always worth it.
You made me read and study the entire book over the course of a few months. One of the best books I've ever read. Terrifying, but it leaves options open for the future of our evolution.
i like the idea that we can just make someone up, say they are a very obscure and ancient sage and just make them say things. It's very classical era-coded.
Let's hit it for the algorithm guys. This obscure yet kind of deep, but actually schitzo content researched to the point that you ask yourself "why would anyone??" is what the internet is all about.
A actually find significant insight from this. Life and intelligence maximizes entropy, hastening the return of all things to perfect eternal peace. From this frame of reference.
Mind has very well reached the end of its boney tenor 😤 Excellent work dude, the spinal catastrophism videos propelled me through the first half of my finals
Mind has very well reached the end of its boney tether 🙂↕️ Wonderful elaboration and journey, as someone who takes huge inspiration from the CCRU and Land this was done great justice and I’m sure Moynihan is so grateful to have his work celebrated like this!!
One last thing, the paper you cited towards the end: "Despite the comparative impulse to posit Thomas Moynihan within the lineage of Reza Negarestani’s “theory fiction,” all such compulsions ought to be curbed" Great video as always, looking forward to the next one!
Catastrophe is not a a space rook hitting us, nor an alien fat invasion. Catastrophe is indeed within our back-pain, signaling our impending doom but we bend our back too much in order to watch a video while we eat Macdonald to care about this signaling.
The funniest thing for me is the fact that the entire thing (while being almost sarcastically gloomy) ultimately produces quite a comfy outlook on existance. By constantly upping the ante of pessimistic philosophy it is possible to arrive at a weird acceptance of it all. For me the process went something like this: 1. Assume the suffering inherent to life is so unbearable (or the causes of it so fundamental) that elimination of sufferes IS neccessary. 2. Therefore we should dispose of ourselves, witch can actually be done quite easily (via thermonuclear war for example) 3. ...but that wouldn't be compassionate enough to everybody potentially following us. 4. Therefore we also need to destroy the very possibility of all life everywhere ever. 5. Life (as we know from personal experience) eventually arises from the very base of the universe - inorganic matter. 6. Therefore no amount of destruction except somehow destroying the entire universe wouldn't be enough. 7. But then we remember that the universe is already very slowly commiting omnicide by entropy: its called The Heat Death. And as far as we can tell this is completely inevitable and will accomplish the great negation all on its own. 8. Therefore we can simply live on knowing that even if pessimists are correct, their morbid wishes will eventually be granted anyway. Also, while we wait for it to happen, we might as well do our best to enjoy life as it is (juuuust in case it is not THAT bad after all :3). Peace in acceptance of human mortality and of universal mortality in one fell swoop. Cosmic nihilism evolving smoothly into some kind of futuristic zen with a hint of absurdism. And if you have read this far, Freak, thank you very much for your efforts! You are doing God's work. Sometimes we need a reminder of how weird the world and our own minds can be. Wherever your interests bring you next, I'll be excited to follow.
I'm not sure you can so easily get to 5 and 6 from 4. It's very possible that the path from inorganic matter to abiogenesis and then to intelligent life is supremely unlikely. If that's the case, then I think it makes more sense to assume 4 applies to "all life we know of", not "all life that could potentially exist". Plus, even if you did get all the way down to 8, I'd say ending suffering sooner rather than later is generally better, without factoring in externalities. If we had a universe killing button, I don't think any true pessimist (if any even exist) would say "Well don't press it yet, maybe things will get better, and the universe will die in quadrillions of years anyway, so there's no rush." To the pessimist, there absolutely WOULD be a rush, the suffering is happening right now.
@master2497 Good points actually. Can't really comment on possible alternatives to life as we currently understand it but I suppose we can agree that strictly speaking shortening the time of suffering may have weight even in an infinite universe. And what's more this may be even funnier. If the matter is indeed urgent, than the imperative for space exploration and moving further up Kardashev scale holds. So now we have a beautiful case of unity of opposites: If we love life and sapience, we must grow and advance beyond our current limitations to promote and celebrate them. If we hate them, we must do exactly the same in order to destroy them. So it kinda looks like both perspective ultimately seek further advancement of humanity for the foreseeable future. The fact that they do it for opposite reasons just adds a cherry on top of this ridiculous thought experiment.
Best response by author/publisher and well earned for (still) one of the most mind bending videos I’ve seen incl some crazy 🐇 holes. Good luck on new venture.
I love how spinal catatrophism practically connected the dots of a lot of crazy concepts i want to delve in my own literature and defined some symbolism that i used before learning of it, now i just have to connect the dots and involve my favorite geo politics or cultural elements and i am set
Something, something, mind has very well reached the end of its bony tether. Anyway, time to form a cartoonish pitchfork mob to fight Element Freak for getting me invested in a fictional work!!!
Yesterday I randomly remembered your first spinal catastrophism video and searched for your channel and saw that I wasn't subscribed. Looks like I have good timing.
I was like half the views in part one and I barely got the general idea. Either way so hyped for this one. Edit: Mind has very well reached the end of its bony teather.
When I had my acid breakthrough, I felt like a universe of pain. I do believe we have different universes of perception deeper within us. Our conscious brain may be the highest state.
Damn, I showed up just in time for the premiere... that never happens. Good luck with the channel, if this is anything like part 1, it should be an entertaining watch.
I've held off on watching part 1 (Not that I knew it would be a part 1) because the book seemed intriguing enough to look into. It seems I've got to get my rear in gear. In any case, here I am to tip the bellhop
If I could wear a suit digitally, I would be doing so rn. I haven't looked forward to a video this much since forever EDIT: Only now finished the video and... Damn did not expect such insane lore from a book. Crazy to see some of the books you mentioned were already in my read list... Need to get cracking on those. Mind has very well reached the end of its bony tether.
18:00 Ok I have to be that guy; There is no evidence whatsoever that Nietzsche even had syphilis. That is a myth. Syphilis creates very obvious skin lesions and those would have been very discernable if the disease had developed enough to cause severe brain damage. He had no signs of a physiological or neurological ailment of any kind. Also Nietzsche was not in his "old age". He was in his early 40s when his nervous breakdown occurred. The channel Essential Salts has a video which goes into much more detail about this. It almost sounds like an urban legend to say that Nietzsche was "driven mad by his own philosophy", but frankly, I am unwaveringly confident that that is actually what happened, and I've discussed in detail how exactly I believe this occurred in a couple videos (I forget which ones tbh lol). Basically he philosophized himself into a quite literal catatonia in much the same way that we see in extreme cases of dissociative disorders.
Fair. It’s one of those details that’s small in the context of this whole, but stretching the truth adds to the vibe. There’s lots of things in here I wouldn’t put up much of a fight for
These videos were the best crack I’ve ever smoked, as a professional skitzo all this made sense, and like my one comment on the last video about it correlating biblically, I will again state that this is all biblically and etymologically sound regardless of the things you stated towards the end of the video. Ive learned a lot of things between this video and last and I would post comments through the video of connections I see but im too tired tonight, I do leave y’all with one Bible verse 2 Peter 3 9-10: 9. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Bonus verse cus I love God Philippians 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. (Talking about enemies of Christ)
« I broke my back. My back is broken. Spinal. »
- Mike Tyson, 2003
"Thpinal"
-Mike Tyson, 2003
Now for the series on Fanged Noumena, each chapter its own 9 hour episode. You are being held at metaphysical metaphorical gunpoint
RAHHH I LOVE UNINTELLIGIBLE RAMBLINGS FROM BEFORE I WAS BORN RAHHHH
@@ElementFreakYT you need to read the entire history of philosophy and you'll begin to understnad it
@@ElementFreakYT it shows
Okay I know I'm hella late to this party, but I've received no less than 40,000 comments telling me to check this out so evidently now is a good time since the sequel just dropped.
Your videos are dope. Fuck Professor Dave!
Lmaooooo, that’s fantastic. I highly appreciate your work too, this video even mentions your Thaumaturgy video briefly. I can see how the audiences crossover.
🎶 Hell yeaaaaaaaaa 🎶
❤
Believe it or not, pt. 1 actually is what led me to your channel. This really is something.
That use of Surgical Extraction in the thumbnail goes *hard*
Awesome birthday present! Thank you!
Hapy birthday dawg
Happy birthday!
Happy birthday
you oughtta get some kind of recognition for shoveling through this enormous, steaming pile
Finally, more to one of the most interesting ideas the Internet has seen in a hot minute.
I have waited 10 months and 26 days for this! I’m so happy you made the part 2! Cant wait to see this
I’m so excited for part 2!!
I've never heard of you, or seen part 1, but as paranoid schizophrenic I appreciate the algorithms effort :)
Very cool to hear that your video had such a big impact on their book sales. Sounds like I wasn’t the only one who decided to read it myself.
39:59 "How can we remedy a wound the size of existence?" I can't think of any other quote that is quite as sobering as this one.
Indeed. My guess would be the self sacrifice of some creator figure
Finally! Also you're killing it with these thumbnails bro wtf.
Thank you thank you
omg I've been waiting for this for ages!!!!!! I even started reading Spinal Catastrophism. There are sections that literally make my heart race with excitement. I'd like to read them aloud, to scream them to the world. Other passages... are so dense. I do read it very slowly, but it's always worth it.
Mind has very well reached the end of its bony tether 💀
You made me read and study the entire book over the course of a few months. One of the best books I've ever read. Terrifying, but it leaves options open for the future of our evolution.
The blessed algorithm is truly blessed; I'll just say that. I finished watching part one first and now I'm finally tapping into this one.
i like the idea that we can just make someone up, say they are a very obscure and ancient sage and just make them say things. It's very classical era-coded.
I will be using DC Barker as I see fit because of it. He’s just a guy I can culturally appropriate
@@ElementFreakYT Barker dixit
It’s the best part of theory-fiction
PART 2! I was genuinely so concerned you weren’t going to do another part 😭
ok, I'd say the wait was worth it
beer: cold
corn: popped
lets gooo
No 💨…😂
Let's hit it for the algorithm guys. This obscure yet kind of deep, but actually schitzo content researched to the point that you ask yourself "why would anyone??" is what the internet is all about.
Yakub, Floyd and a Scully cameo, mind has very well reached the end of its boney tether, it really has!
A actually find significant insight from this. Life and intelligence maximizes entropy, hastening the return of all things to perfect eternal peace. From this frame of reference.
Mind has very well reached the end of its boney tenor 😤
Excellent work dude, the spinal catastrophism videos propelled me through the first half of my finals
Mind has very well reached the end of its boney tether 🙂↕️
Wonderful elaboration and journey, as someone who takes huge inspiration from the CCRU and Land this was done great justice and I’m sure Moynihan is so grateful to have his work celebrated like this!!
One last thing, the paper you cited towards the end: "Despite the comparative impulse to posit Thomas Moynihan within the lineage
of Reza Negarestani’s “theory fiction,” all such compulsions ought to be curbed"
Great video as always, looking forward to the next one!
Yeah I read that again as I put in the screenshot lmao. I think it’s still within bounds to consider SC within the same lineage. Thank you!
I got on my wish list Spinal Catastophism and Cute Accelerationism. So, I think this is going to be a wild christmas.
Let’s gooooooo I’ve been waiting for this one!! Thank u 🙏
Mind has very well reached its boney tether. Thank you for your excellent work sir
Commenting for the boost. I will almost certainly buy this book, thanks for these videos!
This is so special.
Catastrophe is not a a space rook hitting us, nor an alien fat invasion. Catastrophe is indeed within our back-pain, signaling our impending doom but we bend our back too much in order to watch a video while we eat Macdonald to care about this signaling.
Yesss what a great video that was
Thank you mr element for your hardwork
INSANE thank you so much for this episode!
Yes! Part two! Thank you for your work man!
The funniest thing for me is the fact that the entire thing (while being almost sarcastically gloomy) ultimately produces quite a comfy outlook on existance.
By constantly upping the ante of pessimistic philosophy it is possible to arrive at a weird acceptance of it all. For me the process went something like this:
1. Assume the suffering inherent to life is so unbearable (or the causes of it so fundamental) that elimination of sufferes IS neccessary.
2. Therefore we should dispose of ourselves, witch can actually be done quite easily (via thermonuclear war for example)
3. ...but that wouldn't be compassionate enough to everybody potentially following us.
4. Therefore we also need to destroy the very possibility of all life everywhere ever.
5. Life (as we know from personal experience) eventually arises from the very base of the universe - inorganic matter.
6. Therefore no amount of destruction except somehow destroying the entire universe wouldn't be enough.
7. But then we remember that the universe is already very slowly commiting omnicide by entropy: its called The Heat Death. And as far as we can tell this is completely inevitable and will accomplish the great negation all on its own.
8. Therefore we can simply live on knowing that even if pessimists are correct, their morbid wishes will eventually be granted anyway. Also, while we wait for it to happen, we might as well do our best to enjoy life as it is (juuuust in case it is not THAT bad after all :3).
Peace in acceptance of human mortality and of universal mortality in one fell swoop. Cosmic nihilism evolving smoothly into some kind of futuristic zen with a hint of absurdism.
And if you have read this far, Freak, thank you very much for your efforts! You are doing God's work. Sometimes we need a reminder of how weird the world and our own minds can be. Wherever your interests bring you next, I'll be excited to follow.
I'm not sure you can so easily get to 5 and 6 from 4. It's very possible that the path from inorganic matter to abiogenesis and then to intelligent life is supremely unlikely. If that's the case, then I think it makes more sense to assume 4 applies to "all life we know of", not "all life that could potentially exist". Plus, even if you did get all the way down to 8, I'd say ending suffering sooner rather than later is generally better, without factoring in externalities. If we had a universe killing button, I don't think any true pessimist (if any even exist) would say "Well don't press it yet, maybe things will get better, and the universe will die in quadrillions of years anyway, so there's no rush." To the pessimist, there absolutely WOULD be a rush, the suffering is happening right now.
@master2497 Good points actually. Can't really comment on possible alternatives to life as we currently understand it but I suppose we can agree that strictly speaking shortening the time of suffering may have weight even in an infinite universe. And what's more this may be even funnier. If the matter is indeed urgent, than the imperative for space exploration and moving further up Kardashev scale holds. So now we have a beautiful case of unity of opposites:
If we love life and sapience, we must grow and advance beyond our current limitations to promote and celebrate them.
If we hate them, we must do exactly the same in order to destroy them.
So it kinda looks like both perspective ultimately seek further advancement of humanity for the foreseeable future. The fact that they do it for opposite reasons just adds a cherry on top of this ridiculous thought experiment.
isn't spinal catastrophism anti-humanist?
You really had me for 1½ videos 😂
The truth come out
Best response by author/publisher and well earned for (still) one of the most mind bending videos I’ve seen incl some crazy 🐇 holes. Good luck on new venture.
Hell YES, good to see you back
I love how spinal catatrophism practically connected the dots of a lot of crazy concepts i want to delve in my own literature and defined some symbolism that i used before learning of it, now i just have to connect the dots and involve my favorite geo politics or cultural elements and i am set
Have you been contacted by Sol9 (0-9) yet?
Mine has reached its bony tether. What a fascinating twist!
Something, something, mind has very well reached the end of its bony tether. Anyway, time to form a cartoonish pitchfork mob to fight Element Freak for getting me invested in a fictional work!!!
Pet peeve: Nee-chuh and Shopenhauer are the correct pronunciations. Great vid as always, will pick up the book!
Love that your sponsor is just your indie game kickstarter
I love these videos they are so fun to watch multiple times even !
Yesterday I randomly remembered your first spinal catastrophism video and searched for your channel and saw that I wasn't subscribed. Looks like I have good timing.
I was like half the views in part one and I barely got the general idea.
Either way so hyped for this one.
Edit: Mind has very well reached the end of its bony teather.
What a hypnogogic jerk of a final act. Just the the thing to shake catastrophism off the old spine
I've been waiting or this! Hope this channel blows up!!!
Awesome finally found the time to watch this. Down with intelligence!!!
As a Warwick grad, from the first moments of part 1 I had a feeling the CCRU were behind this. I should have trusted my instincts.
"Theory-fiction" arose from Nick Land after all.
Omg I am so excited. Your first video blew my mind
Thank GOD this is finally coming out 🙏🙏😭
Mind has very well reached the end of its boney tether 💜
incredible, thanks 👍
FUN! That final reveal is pretty good
Damn brother, this was very good.
When I had my acid breakthrough, I felt like a universe of pain. I do believe we have different universes of perception deeper within us. Our conscious brain may be the highest state.
Jolly good show.
Pretty damn early for a Christmas present love you dawg 😘
THANK YOU FINALLY!
the mind has not reached its boney ends yet WE STILL GO ON
The thumbnail art is Surgical Extraction by Steven Belledin, should probably put that in the description.
Good point
only reason i clicked, easily top 5 magic the gathering illustrations on anybody's list
Damn, I showed up just in time for the premiere... that never happens. Good luck with the channel, if this is anything like part 1, it should be an entertaining watch.
Mind has very well reached the end of its boney tether. Its been a ride. Thanks element freak
Shhhhh! Elemental Freak is on!!!
I waited 331 days for this.
My skull is numb, my spine turned to jelly like a cat's, and mind has very well reached the end of its boney tether
I'm super excited!
Good video
been waiting so long for this.
I've held off on watching part 1 (Not that I knew it would be a part 1) because the book seemed intriguing enough to look into. It seems I've got to get my rear in gear. In any case, here I am to tip the bellhop
Finally! It’s a Christmas miracle.
This is basically a book written with a Hideo Kojima line of thinking "Mind has very well reached the end of its bony tether"
HE DROPPED IT
YES HES BACK
If I could wear a suit digitally, I would be doing so rn.
I haven't looked forward to a video this much since forever
EDIT: Only now finished the video and... Damn did not expect such insane lore from a book. Crazy to see some of the books you mentioned were already in my read list... Need to get cracking on those.
Mind has very well reached the end of its bony tether.
my boy nick land and his friends are making numbers in recent times
I've been waiting for months
Oh wow, I bought it because of your video too!
And I am looking forward to part 2!
Thank you for making these in depth videos!
22:40 My simple ahh brain goes "heyyy zapdos"
Lmao
1. Peak is back on the menu
2. 13:17 Skopenour 😭
thanks! Wowzers eh!
My back literally hurts right now because I had to lean over ever so slightly to do the dishes lol
Oh lord, there's probably going to be a part 3
Well no, I finished the book
Mind has very well reached to the end of its boney tether.
13:19 Scopeinhower lol
My patience for this very well reached the end of it's good willed tether when I found out this whole thing was fiction :/
Halfway through the video and i realize this is just reskinned gnosticism
18:00 Ok I have to be that guy;
There is no evidence whatsoever that Nietzsche even had syphilis. That is a myth. Syphilis creates very obvious skin lesions and those would have been very discernable if the disease had developed enough to cause severe brain damage. He had no signs of a physiological or neurological ailment of any kind. Also Nietzsche was not in his "old age". He was in his early 40s when his nervous breakdown occurred.
The channel Essential Salts has a video which goes into much more detail about this.
It almost sounds like an urban legend to say that Nietzsche was "driven mad by his own philosophy", but frankly, I am unwaveringly confident that that is actually what happened, and I've discussed in detail how exactly I believe this occurred in a couple videos (I forget which ones tbh lol). Basically he philosophized himself into a quite literal catatonia in much the same way that we see in extreme cases of dissociative disorders.
Fair. It’s one of those details that’s small in the context of this whole, but stretching the truth adds to the vibe. There’s lots of things in here I wouldn’t put up much of a fight for
A discussion on Nietzsche's madness was in your video "Archetypal Dynamics and Axial Transmutations; Madness, Power and Liberation"
Let's gooo
These videos were the best crack I’ve ever smoked, as a professional skitzo all this made sense, and like my one comment on the last video about it correlating biblically, I will again state that this is all biblically and etymologically sound regardless of the things you stated towards the end of the video. Ive learned a lot of things between this video and last and I would post comments through the video of connections I see but im too tired tonight, I do leave y’all with one Bible verse 2 Peter 3 9-10:
9. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Bonus verse cus I love God
Philippians 3:19
Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.
(Talking about enemies of Christ)
"regardless of the things you stated towards the end of the video" homie said yeah i know its false but im choosing to believe it anyway
@@isobarkley nah it’s not false, it’s just told as fiction, but the theory is true
Hell yeah
Mind has very well reached the end of its bony tether.
Mind has very well reached to the end of its boney tether
Somehow, I understand all of this, but I could never even begin to explain what this is to anyone else.
The catastrophe is about to hit us all
mind has very well reached the end of its boney tether indeed
The concept of memory is featured rather heavily in the third book of three body trilogy.
BABE WAKE UP PART TWO OF ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING VIDEOS EVER JUST DROPPED