This message is from Dr. Sproul’s 12-part teaching series Themes from Genesis. Watch the entire series: www.ligonier.org/learn/series/themes-from-genesis
Father hear my prayers. I’m losing hope. My husband is with you I still miss him even after all these years. These pass three years have been difficult. At times I feel so alone especially as a single mom. Since suffering a heart attack two years ago and my on going battle with lupus I’m overwhelmed. Both of my sons are autistic. I’m now homeschooling them so my hours to work are limited. BUT I TRUST YOU LORD! I keep faith even as I constantly struggle to provide for my kids and I constantly struggle to buy groceries. I receive hate for sharing my testimony. My testimony is one of faith. No matter what we are facing God will give us strength to over come. Thankfully I have you Lord! I know I’m not alone. Faith over fear!
You are not alone God Bless you and your children just remember to thank God for our trials and tribulations for that is what strengthens our faith in our holy lord Jesus Christ
2 Corinthians 12:8-9 “Concerning this I implored the Lord three times that it might leave me. And He has said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness.” Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me.”
In all my life lve never known one so brilliant so humble with an amazing gift of teaching God's word with a passion that embrace scholars students pastors and more
O the blood🎶🎼🎼 Crimson love Price of life's demand Shameful sin Placed on Him The Hope of every man O the blood of Jesus washes me O the blood of Jesus shed for me What a sacrifice that saved my life Yes, the blood, it is my victory Savior Son Holy One Slain so I can live Oh, see the Lamb The great I Am Who takes away my sin O the blood of Jesus washes me O the blood of Jesus shed for me What a sacrifice that saved my life Yes, the blood, it is my victory🎶🎼
“And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him (the beast), whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” Revelation 13:8 The efficacious blood of Jesus Christ before the foundation of the earth had already secured salvation ALL GLORY TO GOD
I think the contradiction being the hallmark of truth of our faith pertains more to our wisdom vs Gods wisdom. For instance, those who lose their life for my sake will find life. Or the greatest are the servants Or the beatitudes As the wise teacher points out a contradiction can not be used to find the discern the truth but kingdom level truth will very often contradict the wisdom of a man without the revelation of Christ.
What would had been the outcome if Eve would had never eaten from that fruit? We had a very specific issue here. Maybe someone else had eaten the fruit by then. Then Eve would have lived forever. She and Adam would be sinless, the seed as well. But their siblings had fell in sin.
I think that commandment is not to eat of that fruit was to Adam and Eve only.They stood as our supreme representatives before almighty God. Because I believe they were created by God and all others were conceived through the actions of of mankind.
You answered your own question! Eventually someone would’ve sinned! Before creation God lived! He created us as his children for an inheritance. He created us knowing we would sin, men and women get married and have children knowing they will sin! God wants a family, and as image bearers we want families. Even tho the world is horribly broken, for those that love the Lord get to see how God is working in it! The sinfulness of man reveals the love, mercy, and grace of God!
@adamvo5571 He didn't create us before creation he elected us. He created us spiritually at his appointed time. He in no way created us physically because He would be creating a person born with a sinful nature. That would be against God's nature. Adam and Eve were created, but we were products of procreation.
@@williamcopeland6683 God ordained it are let it happen for His own purpose. Most people don't talk about it but the first sin was when Satan rebelled against God and he rebelled against God because he was jealous man for over the angles and the angles were far superior than man and Satan felt he should be superior over man so he being smarter than man convinced him to sin against God knowing God would condem man for it.
for Jesus Christ had knowledge of the false dominion of Satan on the earth. He came to podestà Satan and his power of the false kingdom. he came to restore the ideal of creation What in the beginning of Sovereign God was the plan The Holy Family. holy children without impurity of fallen naturea Holy generation, a Holy tribe, a Holy natio 27:57 n, and a Holy world. under joyful and harmonious dominion Under the pure and perfect love of God.Amen
@@WORDversesWORLD True. God is sovereign, meaning that His freedom is absolute and extends over His whole creation so that He has the power and the ability to choose whatsoever He will, If God is sovereign, then manifestly no creature can be autonomous because to be autonomous is to be a law unto yourself and to be a law unto yourself precludes the possibility of anything or anyone reigning sovereignly over you.
THE ONLY ENTRANCE TO THE FATHER: JESUS IS GOD’S RELAYING MESSENGER. NO MAN HAS HEARD GOD’S VOICE AT ANY TIME (JOHN 5:37). MAN HAS HEARD ONLY THE VOICE OF JESUS AND THE ANGELS, BUT NEVER GOD. THE FATHER-WHO IS GOD-PLACED ALL THINGS INTO HIS SON’S HANDS; THUS, IT IS JESUS WHO WILL EITHER ACCEPT ENTRANCE TO THE FATHER OR WILL DENY IT. GOD CREATED JESUS BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD (JOHN 17:24). GOD TOLD US THAT HE CHOSE JESUS AS “MY SERVANT, WHOM I HAVE CHOSEN, THE ONE I LOVE, IN WHOM I DELIGHT, I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT ON HIM AND HE WILL PROCLAIM JUSTICE TO THE NATIONS” (MATTHEW 12:18). JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY, THE ONLY INTERCESSOR, BETWEEN THE FATHER AND MAN.
Nowhere in John 17:24 does Jesus say God created Him. John 10:30 "I and the Father are one." Philippians 2:5-8 King James Version 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
@@annie5441 I'm not sure your point. Even this verse doesn't say God created Him. It's referring to the authority of Jesus in and of itself. He will be the judge of all men. 🙏😊🙏 John 5:21-23 King James Version 21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will. 22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
@@mikemccormick9667 YOU MISTAKE WHAT THE ‘JUDGMENT’ IS…THE JUDGMENT IS WHETHER WE WILL SEE GOD. YOU RECALL IT IS JESUS WHO REMOVES THE SEALS FROM THE BOOK THAT WE TAKES FROM THE ONE WHO SITS ON THE THRONE-GOD. GOD, THE FATHER, SITS ON THE THRONE; JESUS OPENS THE SEALS. JESUS IS THE ONE WHO WILL DETERMINE WHO WILL SEE THE FATHER. "I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE, NO MAN *COMETH UNTO THE FATHER,* BUT *BY ME.”* JOHN 14:6 WHY DO WE COME TO THE FATHER AND NOT JESUS? WHY IS JESUS THE WAY TO THE FATHER? BECAUSE THE FATHER IS GOD, NOT JESUS.
It’s Insanity… If people never read anything else, once Jesus said this to the Father “you are the one true God” (John 17:3), and that God has given him life (John 5:26), it is insanity to continue saying Jesus is God. You are willfully going against God and His Son. There is no random verse that says Jesus is God in scripture, including John 1:1, Hebrews 1:8, Isaiah 9:6, John 10:30, John 14:19, etc. To go against His word is a waste of life, and Jesus told us what eternal life is: it is to know them both. Swallow your pride in the eyes of God, because in Hell you can swallow nothing.
I was gonna give you verses to show you that Jesus is God but you did it for me with the verses you listed. Those verses are perfect for proving Christ’s deity.
@@bradenzook3705 None of them prove him being God in the slightest. Jesus not being God doesn’t make him any ‘less divine.’ Not sure why people think that. Angels are not God either, but they are divine. Saying Jesus is not God says nothing to his divinity-that is a illogical argument. Jesus is not God. We’re told clearly who God is and who Jesus is: “But to us there is but *one God, the Father,* of whom are all things, and we IN him; and *one Lord Jesus Christ,* by whom are all things, and we BY him.” 1 Corinthians 8:6
@@Shawn-q3x In Revelation 22:13 Jesus says He is the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. In Isaiah 44:6 God says He is the first and the last. Same thing in Isaiah 48:12. So which is it? Is Jesus the first and the last or is the Father the first and the last? Furthermore, in Revelation 19:16 Jesus has the name KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. So Jesus is King and Lord over all. But isn’t the Father the Lord? Isn’t the Father the King? So does that mean Jesus is King and Lord over the Father? Not at all. Back to John 10:30 Jesus says “I and the Father are one.” Another premise is from Luke 4:8 where Jesus says “Worship the Lord your God and serve Him only.” In Hebrews 1:6 it says that all the angels of God should worship the Son of God. Woah but I thought we should only worship God, not Jesus. If Jesus isn’t God then the angels worshipping Him would be sin and they should be kicked out of heaven. See Thomas understood it when he said in John 20:28 “My Lord and my God!” If Jesus isn’t God then it absolutely changes His divinity. Sure angles are divine but God is in a completely set apart different category than the angels. And I’m so passionate about this because if you miss this then you believe in a false Jesus. And that’s a false belief that is the difference between heaven and hell. See if Jesus is not God then we have no reason to worship Him. All throughout the New Testament we see people worshipping Jesus, especially in Revelation. If Jesus is not God then He is not eternal and if He is not eternal then He could not take the full wrath of the Father in a few hours. The wrath of the Father is an eternity of punishment. If Jesus is not eternal then He would still be paying for our sins. But we know that He is not still paying for our sins because He said on the cross “It is finished.” Meaning the debt has peen paid in full. And we know the angles are not eternal because they were created by God. Jesus was not created. He was in the beginning with God. Man I highly highly encourage you to take this subject carefully because it has an eternal weight. I write all this out because I care about your eternal soul. The Holy Trinity is difficult to fully grasp but naturally it would be with our fallen minds. There is one God eternally existing in three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Please respond if you have any questions man. I’d love to continue this conversation.
@@bradenzook3705 I take this subject very carefully. You realize that Lord is used to describe Jesus and God depending on context? Only those who have his Holy Spirit will know when Jesus speaks of himself or whether he speaks for the Father (John 7:17). Jesus himself tells Mary Magdalene in John 20:17 that his Father, and her Father are HIS God: “Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, *I ascend unto MY Father, and YOUR Father; and to MY God, and YOUR God.”* If you say Jesus is God, then you’re claiming that ‘’God’ has a God…and this goes completely against scripture. Both the Father and Jesus are the Alpha and Omega; they re in perfect harmony-they began this world together, and will end it together. The angels worshipping Jesus is a sin? How did you get this from Hebrews 1:6?? Hebrews 1:2-3 explicitly says that GOD speaks through/by his Son and that HE [GOD] made the worlds by/through his Son: “GOD Hath in these last days *spoken unto us BY his Son,* whom he hath *APPOINTED HEIR of all things,* BY whom also HE [the Father] made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the *right hand of the Majesty on high:”* Jesus is the APPOINTED HEIR of all things, meaning Jesus was GIVEN these things BY his Father, who is GOD.
@@Shawn-q3x I get the angels worshipping Jesus is a sin if Jesus isn’t God because God says to only worship Him. To worship anyone or anything else is idolatry and a sin. Keep reading in that chapter to verse 8. Read slowly. God the Father is saying “of the Son” “You’re throne, O God, is forever and ever…” The Father is saying of the Som that His throne, as God, is forever and ever. Understand that the Trinity is infinitely complex, 3 persons, 1 God. 3 different persons functionality independently, yet with all the same nature and will. Again Thomas calls Jesus “My Lord and my God” in John 20.
That Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden is myth. An interesting myth - but less interesting than the myth of Prometheus. Biologists say that the "Adam and Eve" of the human species were two characters who did not live together but from whose unique genetic makeup was generated what we are now. God had no part in that generation, but if I believed in the devil it could well have been he who brought woe on the world by creating the human race now a moment away from total destruction of themselves and the earth. And that is to exclude the historical billions of deaths caused by the incapability of humans to understand that the key to progress is to "love your neighbor as yourself"
This message is from Dr. Sproul’s 12-part teaching series Themes from Genesis. Watch the entire series: www.ligonier.org/learn/series/themes-from-genesis
Father hear my prayers. I’m losing hope. My husband is with you I still miss him even after all these years. These pass three years have been difficult. At times I feel so alone especially as a single mom. Since suffering a heart attack two years ago and my on going battle with lupus I’m overwhelmed. Both of my sons are autistic. I’m now homeschooling them so my hours to work are limited. BUT I TRUST YOU LORD! I keep faith even as I constantly struggle to provide for my kids and I constantly struggle to buy groceries. I receive hate for sharing my testimony. My testimony is one of faith. No matter what we are facing God will give us strength to over come. Thankfully I have you Lord! I know I’m not alone. Faith over fear!
You are not alone, my sister in Christ ! I pray Our Lord helps you !
You are not alone God Bless you and your children just remember to thank God for our trials and tribulations for that is what strengthens our faith in our holy lord Jesus Christ
2 Corinthians 12:8-9
“Concerning this I implored the Lord three times that it might leave me. And He has said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness.” Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me.”
Praying for you now! May God give you the help and peace you need.
You are in my prayers, sister...
Still relevant today!!!
More than relevant. Necessary! How many times do we base our decision to sin on “Hath God said?”
Wonderful exposition. Miss you RC
What a sacrifice that saved my life✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️
Yes, the blood, 🩸🩸🩸it is my victory
In all my life lve never known one so brilliant so humble with an amazing gift of teaching God's word with a passion that embrace scholars students pastors and more
Will we trust in God or negotiate with unbelief?
What a close! What an exposition! Thank God for Jesus🙌🏿
Very good message ❤
Knowing the Holy Scriptures and what it says about our great God it’s more hope and worship than sadness
The plan of Salvation was done
Wow wow wow, thank you so much brother.
Love Rc ❤️
so good, excellently said.
O the blood🎶🎼🎼
Crimson love
Price of life's demand
Shameful sin
Placed on Him
The Hope of every man
O the blood of Jesus washes me
O the blood of Jesus shed for me
What a sacrifice that saved my life
Yes, the blood, it is my victory
Savior Son
Holy One
Slain so I can live
Oh, see the Lamb
The great I Am
Who takes away my sin
O the blood of Jesus washes me
O the blood of Jesus shed for me
What a sacrifice that saved my life
Yes, the blood, it is my victory🎶🎼
What a beautiful song. I have grown up in church and have never heard this. What is the Title? This song so touched me.😥
@@suewalker8586 ask Robert Martin he also went to your church
“And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him (the beast), whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” Revelation 13:8
The efficacious blood of Jesus Christ before the foundation of the earth had already secured salvation
ALL GLORY TO GOD
Amen!
WOW
What a head of hair did Dr Sproul have 😮
Ha ha! He sure did. Ah, the vanities of youth.
80s big hair. 😂
I think the contradiction being the hallmark of truth of our faith pertains more to our wisdom vs Gods wisdom.
For instance, those who lose their life for my sake will find life.
Or the greatest are the servants
Or the beatitudes
As the wise teacher points out a contradiction can not be used to find the discern the truth but kingdom level truth will very often contradict the wisdom of a man without the revelation of Christ.
💚
Thank you God for such an amazing brother, shepard, preacher, teacher - so glad RC is home, but what a void he left. ❤
🙏🏿
What would had been the outcome if Eve would had never eaten from that fruit? We had a very specific issue here. Maybe someone else had eaten the fruit by then. Then Eve would have lived forever. She and Adam would be sinless, the seed as well. But their siblings had fell in sin.
I think that commandment is not to eat of that fruit was to Adam and Eve only.They stood as our supreme representatives before almighty God.
Because I believe they were created by God and all others were conceived through the actions of of mankind.
You answered your own question! Eventually someone would’ve sinned! Before creation God lived! He created us as his children for an inheritance. He created us knowing we would sin, men and women get married and have children knowing they will sin! God wants a family, and as image bearers we want families. Even tho the world is horribly broken, for those that love the Lord get to see how God is working in it! The sinfulness of man reveals the love, mercy, and grace of God!
@adamvo5571 He didn't create us before creation he elected us. He created us spiritually at his appointed time. He in no way created us physically because He would be creating a person born with a sinful nature. That would be against God's nature. Adam and Eve were created, but we were products of procreation.
@@williamcopeland6683 God ordained it are let it happen for His own purpose.
Most people don't talk about it but the first sin was when Satan rebelled against God and he rebelled against God because he was jealous man for over the angles and the angles were far superior than man and Satan felt he should be superior over man so he being smarter than man convinced him to sin against God knowing God would condem man for it.
for Jesus Christ had knowledge of the false dominion of Satan on the earth. He came to podestà Satan and his power of the false kingdom. he came to restore the ideal of creation What in the beginning of Sovereign God was the plan The Holy Family. holy children without impurity of fallen naturea Holy generation, a Holy tribe, a Holy natio 27:57 n, and a Holy world. under joyful and harmonious dominion Under the pure and perfect love of God.Amen
You first have to know where God's truth comes from, and it ain't in man's religion!
It comes from the gospel revealed by the Holy Spirit to God's elect.
@@DogSoldier1948 Which comes from God, not men!
@@WORDversesWORLD True. God is sovereign, meaning that His freedom is absolute and extends over His whole creation so that He has the power and the ability to choose whatsoever He will, If God is sovereign, then manifestly no creature can be autonomous because to be autonomous is to be a law unto yourself and to be a law unto yourself precludes the possibility of anything or anyone reigning sovereignly over you.
Dounut ❤🎉
Who?? Explain??
💪👑✝️📖❤️🔥
THE ONLY ENTRANCE TO THE FATHER:
JESUS IS GOD’S RELAYING MESSENGER. NO MAN HAS HEARD GOD’S VOICE AT ANY TIME (JOHN 5:37). MAN HAS HEARD ONLY THE VOICE OF JESUS AND THE ANGELS, BUT NEVER GOD. THE FATHER-WHO IS GOD-PLACED ALL THINGS INTO HIS SON’S HANDS; THUS, IT IS JESUS WHO WILL EITHER ACCEPT ENTRANCE TO THE FATHER OR WILL DENY IT. GOD CREATED JESUS BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD (JOHN 17:24). GOD TOLD US THAT HE CHOSE JESUS AS “MY SERVANT, WHOM I HAVE CHOSEN, THE ONE I LOVE, IN WHOM I DELIGHT, I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT ON HIM AND HE WILL PROCLAIM JUSTICE TO THE NATIONS” (MATTHEW 12:18). JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY, THE ONLY INTERCESSOR, BETWEEN THE FATHER AND MAN.
Nowhere in John 17:24 does Jesus say God created Him.
John 10:30
"I and the Father are one."
Philippians 2:5-8
King James Version
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
@@mikemccormick9667 OOPS, I MEANT JOHN 5:26.
@@annie5441 I'm not sure your point. Even this verse doesn't say God created Him. It's referring to the authority of Jesus in and of itself. He will be the judge of all men. 🙏😊🙏
John 5:21-23
King James Version
21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
@@mikemccormick9667 YOU MISTAKE WHAT THE ‘JUDGMENT’ IS…THE JUDGMENT IS WHETHER WE WILL SEE GOD.
YOU RECALL IT IS JESUS WHO REMOVES THE SEALS FROM THE BOOK THAT WE TAKES FROM THE ONE WHO SITS ON THE THRONE-GOD. GOD, THE FATHER, SITS ON THE THRONE; JESUS OPENS THE SEALS. JESUS IS THE ONE WHO WILL DETERMINE WHO WILL SEE THE FATHER.
"I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE, NO MAN *COMETH UNTO THE FATHER,* BUT *BY ME.”* JOHN 14:6
WHY DO WE COME TO THE FATHER AND NOT JESUS? WHY IS JESUS THE WAY TO THE FATHER?
BECAUSE THE FATHER IS GOD, NOT JESUS.
It’s Insanity…
If people never read anything else, once Jesus said this to the Father “you are the one true God” (John 17:3), and that God has given him life (John 5:26), it is insanity to continue saying Jesus is God. You are willfully going against God and His Son. There is no random verse that says Jesus is God in scripture, including John 1:1, Hebrews 1:8, Isaiah 9:6, John 10:30, John 14:19, etc. To go against His word is a waste of life, and Jesus told us what eternal life is: it is to know them both.
Swallow your pride in the eyes of God, because in Hell you can swallow nothing.
I was gonna give you verses to show you that Jesus is God but you did it for me with the verses you listed. Those verses are perfect for proving Christ’s deity.
@@bradenzook3705 None of them prove him being God in the slightest. Jesus not being God doesn’t make him any ‘less divine.’ Not sure why people think that. Angels are not God either, but they are divine. Saying Jesus is not God says nothing to his divinity-that is a illogical argument.
Jesus is not God. We’re told clearly who God is and who Jesus is:
“But to us there is but *one God, the Father,* of whom are all things, and we IN him; and *one Lord Jesus Christ,* by whom are all things, and we BY him.” 1 Corinthians 8:6
@@Shawn-q3x
In Revelation 22:13 Jesus says He is the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.
In Isaiah 44:6 God says He is the first and the last. Same thing in Isaiah 48:12.
So which is it? Is Jesus the first and the last or is the Father the first and the last?
Furthermore, in Revelation 19:16 Jesus has the name KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. So Jesus is King and Lord over all. But isn’t the Father the Lord? Isn’t the Father the King? So does that mean Jesus is King and Lord over the Father? Not at all. Back to John 10:30 Jesus says “I and the Father are one.”
Another premise is from Luke 4:8 where Jesus says “Worship the Lord your God and serve Him only.”
In Hebrews 1:6 it says that all the angels of God should worship the Son of God. Woah but I thought we should only worship God, not Jesus. If Jesus isn’t God then the angels worshipping Him would be sin and they should be kicked out of heaven.
See Thomas understood it when he said in John 20:28 “My Lord and my God!”
If Jesus isn’t God then it absolutely changes His divinity. Sure angles are divine but God is in a completely set apart different category than the angels. And I’m so passionate about this because if you miss this then you believe in a false Jesus. And that’s a false belief that is the difference between heaven and hell. See if Jesus is not God then we have no reason to worship Him. All throughout the New Testament we see people worshipping Jesus, especially in Revelation. If Jesus is not God then He is not eternal and if He is not eternal then He could not take the full wrath of the Father in a few hours. The wrath of the Father is an eternity of punishment. If Jesus is not eternal then He would still be paying for our sins. But we know that He is not still paying for our sins because He said on the cross “It is finished.” Meaning the debt has peen paid in full. And we know the angles are not eternal because they were created by God. Jesus was not created. He was in the beginning with God.
Man I highly highly encourage you to take this subject carefully because it has an eternal weight. I write all this out because I care about your eternal soul. The Holy Trinity is difficult to fully grasp but naturally it would be with our fallen minds. There is one God eternally existing in three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Please respond if you have any questions man. I’d love to continue this conversation.
@@bradenzook3705 I take this subject very carefully. You realize that Lord is used to describe Jesus and God depending on context? Only those who have his Holy Spirit will know when Jesus speaks of himself or whether he speaks for the Father (John 7:17).
Jesus himself tells Mary Magdalene in John 20:17 that his Father, and her Father are HIS God:
“Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, *I ascend unto MY Father, and YOUR Father; and to MY God, and YOUR God.”*
If you say Jesus is God, then you’re claiming that ‘’God’ has a God…and this goes completely against scripture.
Both the Father and Jesus are the Alpha and Omega; they re in perfect harmony-they began this world together, and will end it together.
The angels worshipping Jesus is a sin? How did you get this from Hebrews 1:6?? Hebrews 1:2-3 explicitly says that GOD speaks through/by his Son and that HE [GOD] made the worlds by/through his Son:
“GOD Hath in these last days *spoken unto us BY his Son,* whom he hath *APPOINTED HEIR of all things,* BY whom also HE [the Father] made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the *right hand of the Majesty on high:”*
Jesus is the APPOINTED HEIR of all things, meaning Jesus was GIVEN these things BY his Father, who is GOD.
@@Shawn-q3x
I get the angels worshipping Jesus is a sin if Jesus isn’t God because God says to only worship Him. To worship anyone or anything else is idolatry and a sin. Keep reading in that chapter to verse 8. Read slowly. God the Father is saying “of the Son” “You’re throne, O God, is forever and ever…” The Father is saying of the Som that His throne, as God, is forever and ever.
Understand that the Trinity is infinitely complex, 3 persons, 1 God. 3 different persons functionality independently, yet with all the same nature and will. Again Thomas calls Jesus “My Lord and my God” in John 20.
Modern Eve calls him Dounut
Who is modern eve??
She is definitely a no also.
That Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden is myth. An interesting myth - but less interesting than the myth of Prometheus.
Biologists say that the "Adam and Eve" of the human species were two characters who did not live together but from whose unique genetic makeup was generated what we are now.
God had no part in that generation, but if I believed in the devil it could well have been he who brought woe on the world by creating the human race now a moment away from total destruction of themselves and the earth.
And that is to exclude the historical billions of deaths caused by the incapability of humans to understand that the key to progress is to "love your neighbor as yourself"