Dynaco A-35 Speakers Review. Best Vintage HiFi audio. SEAS 25 Drivers. a35, A-10, A-25, A50 range
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- A review of these great sounding large bookshelf speakers from the 70's
Very Neutral sounding, some might say laid back, but with a punchy
Amplifier or Receiver these sound great.
These are the best budget vintage speakers I have bought on the channel so far.
Mate of mine got some Icon Audio speakers 2000GBP for 200GBP..He was the only bidder.. Localish pick up in London... It never happens to me Mike... Glad u got a great pair ov speakers... Great bargains out there.. Those Leak mini sandwiches r xcellent... To repeat myself got 2 pairs..
I have not forgot about the sandwiches, they are on my list. Hopefully find some local. Its quite a bit of pot luck finding some low start listings and being the only bidder.
you are very right about the pic's not right on many video i am going in to haliford for some black matt and pre color
and there's alot a am making video at this time sorry about the wait i am back to making video's now mike bob
If you like these that much then keep your eyes open for a pair of Goodmans Mezzo SL speakers. They use the same SEAS tweeter with Goodman's own 10" woofer. The box is ported (but there's little flow through the port oddly) and the crossover is better. The SL crossover is 2nd order and has an EQ circuit that gives a little bump to the higher frequencies.
I have two pairs of the Mezzo SLs, one finished in walnut and the other in mahogany and run them together with the top pair upside-down. I got the second pair because, for some of my music I like higher SPL than the single pair could manage on their own and my Marantz amp can handle 4 ohm loads. I've been into audio for years, have had many different speaker systems and I'll own these until I die. I couldn't buy better sounding speakers for 5 grand or more.
Thanks for the comment Shaun and the heads up, now the Goodmans sound very interesting indeed and I will without a doubt keep my eyes open for a pair. I like the a-35's a lot and have read some people having 2 pairs of them or a25's and doing the same as you on top upside down.
@@MichaelYates Good stuff. The Mezzo SLs are a bit harder to find than Dynacos. Part of the reason for that is they sold for a whopping 448 quid when new. They were made in England and Goodmans didn't ship a lot internationally but they did do a kit form of them that were sold in the US and Australia. They aren't always as good as they used a different woofer (but they're still a very good speaker). That said some prebuilt SLs from late in their production run use different, lesser drivers as well, both woofer and tweeter. Goodmans was on the way out in the late 70s as a top-tier speaker manufacturer as cheaper imported speakers started to cut into their bottom line. IMHO the Mezzo SL was the pinnacle of a long and illustrious run of Goodmans manufacturing top-notch speakers, after that they started competing on price with imports and finally sold the name before their stock dropped too low. Cheers.
@@MichaelYates The good thing about the Mezzo SLs (they have to be the 'SL' version, there was an earlier Mezzo that wasn't anywhere near as good) is that they aren't as well known as the Dynacos. In my area at least when they do come up for sale, as there is only a small percentage of the population who know how good they are, they can sometimes be had cheaply. Best of luck.
@@Shaun.Stephens Thanks for all the extra info Shaun, I have been looking on eBay here in the UK and I have just missed 2 pairs that sold recently £59 and £25, got them in my save searches now so fingers crossed another pair pops up. I will make sure they have the right drivers. I will be intouch if I managed to get a apair and thanks again.
@@MichaelYates You're welcome Michael. Good luck! I'm sure you'll enjoy them if you get some. The 'right' woofer has a wide flange at the top and the bottom with the sides 'cut off' to allow for 10" driver to sit in the relatively narrow front baffle. There's also "Made in England" cast into the bottom flange. Some of them are natural aluminium and some are black anodised - my walnut pair are unfinished aluminium and the mahogany pair (a /little/ later I think) are black anodised.
Most of the kits had the top and bottom driver flanges also removed (even though the baffle was routed for the earlier driver). I think some of these drivers also made it into pre-built boxes at the end of the run. I've heard that at the very end they stopped using the (expensive) SEAS H087 1.5" silk dome - alnico magnet tweeter and used an in-house driver that wasn't as good. Cheers.
Hi Michael, you hit the jackpot there with those Dynaco speakers. I would personally keep them, perhaps as reference speakers. The A25 is probably going to be more expensive, if you can find them. SEAS has come out with a new kit, called A26. That will set you back about £500,- in speaker components for one box.
Oh and if you can pick up a Dynaco amplifier for reasonable money, don't let that pass by either.
Yes these are definate keepers. The reference sounds a good idea. Very much like what Scott at StereoNiche does with a pair of Advent he uses as a reference against he's other speakers. Nice vintage items on he's channel
I love those speakers. The bass is fat and lovely. I guess it is because of big rubber surround ( which never perish. So no reconing necessary) and maybe the small magnet = "sloppy" bass?. If you have a closed box of about 80 liters ( 30 X 40 X 70 box aprox.) you can put 2 of those 10-inch and have a really nice subwoofer that doesnt need THAT much amplifying.
I have about 14-16 of those 10-inches. Put them everywhere 🙂
They do a A50 which has 2 of the 10 inch drivers in which I would love to hear. 14-16 drivers that is a lot and pretty much says how much you must love them. Excellent
Hard to believe an audiophile of your age had not heard of Dynacos, the A25 was (and probably remains) the highest volume selling speaker in history with I believe some 6 million units sold. The crossover is dead simple, just a capacitor to keep the lows out of the tweeter, there's no coil, the woofer rolls off physically due to its mass. Also, for one of the commenters this is considered a 10" woofer, they are not measured by the cone size nut by basket size.
Yes a bit embarrising TBH , these came out I think a little earlier than when I started getting in to HiFi and I would have been in the phase of getting the latest thing out being taken in by all the specs back in them days
Dynaco DID sell a lot of A25s but the accepted figure is actually 600,000 pairs rather than 6,000,000.
Michael!! Dynaco's!! A speaker I have yet to add to my collection. GREAT score!
Thanks Scott, be interesting on your views if you do manage to get a pair of these or A-25's. A few people have told me they thought the Advents are a better pair of speakers. The Advents are really hard to get hole of here in the UK, but I have them on my list.
@@MichaelYates Seems like the heart grows more fond with things harder to find. I get a LOT of comments about how much better are the Dynaco speakers compared to the Advents. One day I will find a pair. Enjoy!
I didn't see a coil for the main driver there, unless I'm being blind. If it's direct I'm not surprised it sounds good. I prefer unfiltered speakers, at the moment anyway..
No sorry I only took a couple of pics of the magent, got a bit lazy in not taking the drivers completely out.
Dynaco vs ADS which is better?
Sorry I have not heard the ADS so would be hard for me to comment
They're not 10 inch they are 8 inch you measure from the inside of the surround they are seas drivers, I built a mtm using those drivers and it was a marvellous speaker using a third order on the tweeter
To me the box looks a little bit small what's the litre size if you look at the magnet on the woofer you'll be surprised how small the magnet is they have to be kept in a seal box. If they're the same driver what they look like.
Get another set of drivers and make a MTM 65 l box
I found the stuffing was best about 70% in total that's with fibreglass insulation wool probably less with foam didn't try foam. Put a good 5mm of blu tack beading around the driver as a gasket you can sandwich it with a piece of stiff paper between that and the drive
I found that a massive improvement on the chipboard cabinets I was using. It will open the speaker up and reduce any boominess.
Try tilting them back about 5° you should get better time alignment, have you tried them upside down with an open stand or three legged stall that might work quite well.
All the info I have found on the SEAS 25TV-EW has it as a 10 inch driver and measures 10 inches in these. I have not tried them upside down yet, but was reading on a few forums with people that have 2 pairs with one normal way and other upside down on it. Now only if I can get another pair.
@@MichaelYates they don't look 10 inches all depends where you measure it from lol
Easy to make some cabinets just get some chipboard you could use an inch worktop but an inch on the front baffle 65L. jigsaw or router cut out the holes and just use some 1 by 1 pine stock and screw the cabinet and glue it together. shame in this country I don't know where you can get it pre-cut? in America they free cut them for you but I don't think there's anywhere in the UK that will do that retailer?
@@hoobsgrooveB and Q used to cut wood in the UK and 'do it all ' where I used to work but they are shut down now.
I'm sure places do but now they charge by cut when before you just had to but the product.
I build many a speaker in time, will be easy now as youtube has people teaching others the inside planning and Dimensions to size of speaker used is important.
Best option of a beginner is just to copy others manufactures. As that's how I stated ,then I got into volume of box to size and output of speaker working out on paper , then on top tbe complex shape of inner box design with long base travel route etc .
So much fun ,until you realize you are a building two.
I found my friends and family wanted them also at cost price lol
Hi Michael….the magnets on those drivers look to be Alnico….that’s probably the magic mojo that you are hearing…..hang onto them! Alnico drivers can lose magnetism over time which may explain the subjective sensitivity….well maybe (I’m no expert) 😀
Thanks Mike, they are Alnico from what I have been reading. Interesting to learn they can lose magnetism over time.
@@MichaelYates I diy’ed a set of 1 cu ft reflex cabs using old alnico’s from the early 60’s and they do have a buttery smooth sound. You scored bagging those for £25.
I bought a pair of Kef Q15 speakers from SUPERFI in the year 2000, the tweeters lasted 4 days, both of them blew and i didnt overpower them, tbh i was proper disappointed at the sound. My Wharfedale diamond 9.1 speakers sound twice as good for half the money.
The q15 sound quite disapointing, especially with the tweeters blowing within just a few days. Must get a pair of Wharfedale 9.1's I was a little disapointed the the 9.0
@@MichaelYates The 9.1 arent even in the same league, theyre beautiful sounding speakers, get a pair you will love them
hi mike
you going on about what one is the best to have go of track about still audio
there was betamax hi-fi decks made i did the change over to betacam because a ex bbc
audio man said i would be better of
note betamax hi-fi is a right pain i was getting alot of drop out's because of old tapes
note betacam sp is better i am not getting any drop outs
like the speaker s are doing in the video you get used to the sound they put out
i got used to the betamax hi-fi till i was told there was better sounding beta for mat out
there yes betacam i miles better
it's what you love and like to use
you know what xlr plugs are there are fakes out there one of my video's is about them
i am looking in to what i can go on about audio video ways bob
Which bidding site did you use please .
I would really like to know , thanks .
I got them on eBay here in the UK, if searching on eBay look for local pickup as speakers sometimes go cheaper when its local collection only
@MichaelYates I found it last night by the info in your comment , I'm bidding on some speakers as we speak some Rogers .
Yeah, the seller pulled out :( . I got a scam warning from eBay .
I think they were scamming me . If you have any of the sales, please give me a shout . I'm willing to pay over shipping to cover time and costs of post office, etc .
hi mike using pic's doe's save alot of hard work in the end
the my mate showed his face in a video there were saying old man
no worry me and you have lost it on top it's a lotto with it
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as well you see they can't fix it nose is liked to the eyes some how
my brother inlaw is a dr and sister is in the same game as well
bob
I just find using photos better than having the camera floating about all over the place out of focus like some I have seem on other channels
hi mike if you go to BOB JER i have a bad nose they can't fix and me and the light don't get on there are test video's we did alot of test on the new channel
i have to wear i wear to get over the high white light level i have to use a voice changer to get over the bad nose a scammer payback he use one
i no know alot there is video's coming out just to 2 thing to fix i sound like i have a cold all the time i got bad nose from dad
yours bob's bit's will be back bob
Is this the channel Bob, www.youtube.com/@shadowshop1/videos
Hi Michael. Nice review! I have a pair of A35 but with no crossovers inside. I have only one 10uf cap inside on tweeter and the woofer is free.
I did read there are a few crossover versions in these
The single cap is the crossover on these