Adam: I have a "O" ring on each end of my vice handles and it has saved my hands and fingers from being pinched many times, plus the handle does not make the steel hitting on steel noise. You did a very nice job of making the vice look new and work smooth.
Before you put the ball on permanently or if you did, you can heat it to remove it... consider putting a hole in the hub, and thread it, drop a brass slug down, a spring and a set screw. My Parker has this on the end of the hub, you might need to do it on the side.. it will allow you to control the tension on the rod so it doesn't drop every time. or if you want to keep it centered *balanced) for spinning a long distance...
I've seen a lot of guys at my work and also a lot of youtubers making the chamfer of a hole they are going to thread too small. Nice to see an experienced guy like you doing it right (at least as big as the outer diameter of the thread).
Adam, I emailed reed mfg, I live nearby, and told them what a great job you were doing restoring one of their vintage vices. I drive by their place every once in a while, it is such a cool old building!
Really enjoyed this one with your usual great work. Especially since it brought back 70 year old fond memories of passing the Reed plant on my way to Grandma's house. BTW they are still in the same location on 8th st. in Erie, Pa.
Whoa! That is amazing! Fastidious as always. Outstanding. Great job, Adam. By-the-by, that 20N chuck looks HUGE and the chuck key made your hands seem small. Surreal.
When I used to do fabrication work for an commercial appliance company we used a mist degreaser. I a tank you had a mist of Perchloroethylene you just lowered the parts into the mist and let them sit the PCE would condense on the parts and flow off carrying away the grease and oil. If you and a die set it would even pull the grease and oil out of the dust and dirt leaving it behind to just brush it off.
Agreed. Adam has a LOT of experience - it shows in the precision, in the casual yet elegant handling of projects. I have seen many poor machinists (locally) - it's a joy to see (sadly only online) the work real true professionals (and some amazing hobbyists) like Adam, Joe Pieczynski, Tubalcain, this old tony, Keith Rucker , Keith Fenner and many others.
good job as always... but thinking 50+ years from now perhaps if the vice has not been scraped by the new owner (shrinking pool of skill machinist) ... would it be advisable to mark the ball end on the tightening handle in some way that its threaded, as you machined such a good face they may not realise it can be unscrewed ?
Abom79, seeing how you are a master machinist maybe you could do some videos on the basics of using a lathe. That would be pretty awesome. Great video!
Hi Abom I like what you are doing, It's really good to see little things that different machinists do. Never saw a long nose marker before. going to get one ASAP. Also like the magnetic home made tool you used. Good job.
@@paulatkins894 It's a sphere with a cylinder attached. I wondered about getting the best approximation of the cylinder to the spindle axis. By eye would have worked too since the cut on the cylinder was done with a cutoff wheel, or just facing off all of the cylinder, like you said. But I figured Adam would have a good idea.
I did one of these before and was so focused on the handle that I forgot to put in through the screw before final assembly with the loctite! At least it wasn’t setup before I finally realized
one of the things I did to my vice was to drill and tap a hole on the side and then put a ball bearing, spring, and set screw in so that the handle does not just slide down with a bang as you turn it.
When I want a thread like this to stay in the hole I use a second cut tap and forgo the bottom cut,as the bolt turns in it will self lock at the bottom nicely.
Hi abom..you always show's us all the process on your project's from scratch to finish..but you never show's us how you clean all the tool's and machine's that you used after the project (not that i know off)..could you share how you clean and store the tools and how you clean your machine's that you used..the tapper, carbide cutter, the holder and the drill bits..is there any specific way that we should clean them?and how do you sharpened you cutter and drill bits..?
Great series on that vise Adam! I like others couldn't tell which end is the removal end! I especially like that polishing wheel you have. 3M right? I can't remember, nor can I remember which video you introduced us to it. If you can, put which wheel it is and if it's a 6" or 8", would making my future bench grinder purchase easier. I'm sure you'll get the one part machined. I looked broke to me, unlike the gizmo in chucks that they "break" to keep them matched, name escapes me at the moment..... Awesome Job, your attention to detail with removing the weld splatters and dinged up stuff is awesome.
Ever heard of Black Magic cutting oil? That’s all we manually/brushed on back in my shop days. That’s all we were provided with. Great work, by the way. Beautiful vise.
More than likely it was swaged in place - which is a lot easier to do when you have some specialized heavy forging machinery in a vice making plant that makes those handles all day long, as opposed to a machine shop that doesn't.
Solid fix! In those last seconds I was wondering if the Locktite fastener combo can survive the traditional “clonk clonk” of a vise handle being turned...for years. That is one heavy chunk of steel to be slamming on the joint with such regularity.
There is probably a ton of force from the threads being Abom hand tight, the bolt should take all of the forces, the Locktite just keeps the threads from turning. Torqued to 58ft-lbs = 5800lbs = 3 tons of clamping force. I can't see the bar imposing more than a a couple hundred pounds of force over the short drop.
The split nut was a feature of Reed vises that allows you to take up all the slop between the moving jaw and the acme screw. It's meant to be as he found it. This vise will last another 3 generations easy, now that it has been so lovingly rebuilt.
Is there a reason you used a square head set screw and cut the head rather than using a socket set screw or was your decision just based on the length of hardware you had on hand?
Looking fine there Adam! (You and the vise! ;-) ) I am now itching to ad a Reed to my vise collection/obsession. Nobody tell my Charles Parkers! (Or the Wiltons ;-) )
Is there an advantage to tapping both parts and using a section of threaded in between as opposed to turning the end of the bar down and threading it??
I have to guess that he loses less than 1/8 inch of handle length as opposed to a couple of inches. Possibly also less likely to crack and split that end where the screw comes from the handle. Also much easier to set up.
Hi Adam, just wanted to let you know that I aint had no content from you for a couple of weeks, so I decided to look back through your old vids to see if I missed somethin about you bein ill, then I seen that you still makin vids but youtube had gone an unsubscribed me from your channel! I clicked that button to resub, but how many of your followers might this have happened to?
I have anol No20 jacobs chuck, but not super. From where can i get a key for it. Got one off ebbay and the gear does not mach. Thats the one that hold 1" right?
Хороший центр с пружинкой для нарезания резьбы метчиком. Я тоже токарь из России и теперь сделаю такой себе. Спасибо за видео. Интересно что это за приспособление для снятия фасок ? A good center with a spring for tapping. I am also a turner from Russia and now I will do this for myself. Thank you for the video. I wonder what this device for chamfering?
I don't know the make and model but I believe it is a pen style deburring tool or reamer. I think Adam told us what it was in another video but I can't remember .
Great work as always. You do the kind of machining I would like to do but my little 1340 ENCO can never match the Great BIG American iron you have! LOL Thought you were going to put some rubber washer bumpers on the handle. Great looking vise! ABOM SIZE!
How did Reed put this handle into the vice when they made it? Did Reed put a rod in and upset the ends? I would have expected one of the ends to have a ball which unscrewed as originally made by Reed.
I think they welded it. If you look close up when he has the magnet in the chuck squaring up the ball, it looks like a weld join where the ball meets the bar.
..... And that was the moment Adam realised the other end ball was already screwed on from the factory ... ;-)
Haha i was thinking that to my self too! :-D
Adam:
I have a "O" ring on each end of my vice handles and it has saved my hands and fingers from being pinched many times, plus the handle does not make the steel hitting on steel noise.
You did a very nice job of making the vice look new and work smooth.
Love your Passion, Craftsmanship and Value Abom!!… Thank you, Dad and Grandpa for over 100 years of Experience Condensed here :) for us to Enjoy! :)
Before you put the ball on permanently or if you did, you can heat it to remove it... consider putting a hole in the hub, and thread it, drop a brass slug down, a spring and a set screw. My Parker has this on the end of the hub, you might need to do it on the side.. it will allow you to control the tension on the rod so it doesn't drop every time. or if you want to keep it centered *balanced) for spinning a long distance...
Magnet trick was cool! Learn something new every video. Thanks Adam!
As a fellow Machinist, I love watching your videos.
The magnet idea was brilliant, Adam.
Love to see when old things are brought back to life! Awesome!
There are no drills on TH-cam that throw out prettier curls than Abom drills.
I'd love to see you make some new vise jaws in the shaper. A little checkering action 😃
I've seen a lot of guys at my work and also a lot of youtubers making the chamfer of a hole they are going to thread too small. Nice to see an experienced guy like you doing it right (at least as big as the outer diameter of the thread).
In that final shot with the bar installed I honestly couldn't tell which end you had screwed back on. Great work!
Adam, I emailed reed mfg, I live nearby, and told them what a great job you were doing restoring one of their vintage vices. I drive by their place every once in a while, it is such a cool old building!
They make some awesome pipe vises but seems the days of these big bench vises are gone. The vises they offer now appear to be imported.
At 2:25 you explain what the numbers on the Drill/ Tap reference chart are for. As a starting Hobbyist, this helped me a lot! Keep up the good Videos!
Hey Adam you should mark the end of the handle that comes apart with your little logo stamp!
Really enjoyed this one with your usual great work. Especially since it brought back 70 year old fond memories of passing the Reed plant on my way to Grandma's house. BTW they are still in the same location on 8th st. in Erie, Pa.
Nice trick with that small magnet, got to make my own piece. Thanks for another great shop story :)
Those hand tool rescue adjustable wrench are great, I waited for nearly a year for mine on back order.
Whoa! That is amazing! Fastidious as always. Outstanding. Great job, Adam. By-the-by, that 20N chuck looks HUGE and the chuck key made your hands seem small. Surreal.
When I used to do fabrication work for an commercial appliance company we used a mist degreaser. I a tank you had a mist of Perchloroethylene you just lowered the parts into the mist and let them sit the PCE would condense on the parts and flow off carrying away the grease and oil. If you and a die set it would even pull the grease and oil out of the dust and dirt leaving it behind to just brush it off.
I have used trichloroethelene too much
16:50 Great visual pun. 'thanks for joining me'🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dedication to perfection, even on an old tool. Looks so great that bare metal should not rust to shine a lifetime!
Every time I see that 6 jaw I still drool. Just plain love it. Sweet fit there my friend.
every DAMN thing you make is a work of ART!!!
That magnet is genius!
My hubby is 6'4" 265 , About to rotate out of Delta Force. Every time I see you guys GRONK down on something I swear Its going to snap in half.
By the way the collar that looked like it was broken... Was it made that way or was it actually broken?
Very nicely made!!! I loved the magnet trick...I may make one for myself, with your permission...
I too enjoyed the magnet trick. A sure sign of a machinist that has "been there before"
Agreed. Adam has a LOT of experience - it shows in the precision, in the casual yet elegant handling of projects. I have seen many poor machinists (locally) - it's a joy to see (sadly only online) the work real true professionals (and some amazing hobbyists) like Adam, Joe Pieczynski, Tubalcain, this old tony, Keith Rucker , Keith Fenner and many others.
good job as always... but thinking 50+ years from now perhaps if the vice has not been scraped by the new owner (shrinking pool of skill machinist) ... would it be advisable to mark the ball end on the tightening handle in some way that its threaded, as you machined such a good face they may not realise it can be unscrewed ?
If he engraved it "screw off" it would get a chuckle out of me.
Abom79, seeing how you are a master machinist maybe you could do some videos on the basics of using a lathe. That would be pretty awesome. Great video!
Hi Abom I like what you are doing, It's really good to see little things that different machinists do. Never saw a long nose marker before. going to get one ASAP. Also like the magnetic home made tool you used. Good job.
A magnet! I was waiting to see what you would do. Very good!
great idea, but it's a sphere, just chuck it and face it off!
@@paulatkins894 It's a sphere with a cylinder attached. I wondered about getting the best approximation of the cylinder to the spindle axis. By eye would have worked too since the cut on the cylinder was done with a cutoff wheel, or just facing off all of the cylinder, like you said. But I figured Adam would have a good idea.
Paul, sure on a ball you don’t want to true up on a cut face.
I’m glued to the Kentucky/Tennessee game...... Abom notification... Now splitting my attention between the two.. I think I have a problem.. 😁
Indeed you do. You should be watching Abom😇
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You are the Master Abom!!! That vise looks BadAss with that gross paint off of it
Now that is a real kicker to see all go together
Great idea, I need to make a tailstock magnet. Now you have the most accurate vice handle in the known universe.
that magnet trick is awesome. where can i find a magnet that shape to fit a 1/2” or 5/8” chuck?
Beautiful job. BTW the weight loss is really noticeable. Kudos!
Thanks go to you! Adam. Always well taught and pleasant. You are a natural.
I did one of these before and was so focused on the handle that I forgot to put in through the screw before final assembly with the loctite! At least it wasn’t setup before I finally realized
Bob from Hesperia CA. What happened to the threaded insert that held the lead screw in place??
one of the things I did to my vice was to drill and tap a hole on the side and then put a ball bearing, spring, and set screw in so that the handle does not just slide down with a bang as you turn it.
LaserFur Great idea!
Impressive work. Can’t even tell it was cut off and put back together.
Cool to see the hand tool rescue wrench. Love your vids Adam.
From Adam in Indiana
Nice to be here, thank you for the share, Lance & Patrick.
When I want a thread like this to stay in the hole I use a second cut tap and forgo the bottom cut,as the bolt turns in it will self lock at the bottom nicely.
What did you do about that broken keeper nut?
Hi abom..you always show's us all the process on your project's from scratch to finish..but you never show's us how you clean all the tool's and machine's that you used after the project (not that i know off)..could you share how you clean and store the tools and how you clean your machine's that you used..the tapper, carbide cutter, the holder and the drill bits..is there any specific way that we should clean them?and how do you sharpened you cutter and drill bits..?
What happened with the Smith & Mills shaper rebuilding and paint ?
Magnet was clever. I was wondering how you would dial that in.
I guess I spoke too soon... hehe
what happened to the lock nut? did i fall asleep again??
Heck of a nice vise ! Worth every minute you spent getting it into OEM condition. Was the acme shaft a split nut or broken?
Awesome fix on the handle very nice.
Great series on that vise Adam! I like others couldn't tell which end is the removal end! I especially like that polishing wheel you have. 3M right? I can't remember, nor can I remember which video you introduced us to it. If you can, put which wheel it is and if it's a 6" or 8", would making my future bench grinder purchase easier. I'm sure you'll get the one part machined. I looked broke to me, unlike the gizmo in chucks that they "break" to keep them matched, name escapes me at the moment..... Awesome Job, your attention to detail with removing the weld splatters and dinged up stuff is awesome.
I was wondering how you were going to square that ball up in the chuck. Nice trick with the magnet!
My next project is that "magnet"!!! Thanks for the video!!
who woulda thought it is even remotely possible to hold a sphere securely in a chuck...? Great work as usual!
I guessed I missed it - was that threaded collar supposed to be 2-piece.
I didn't see hin bring it back up either... Would be nice to know.
He didn't show it but logic dictates that it must be split in order to fit.
@6:23 "the magnet" ! I was wondering how you were gonna center and true-up that ball. :-)
Ever heard of Black Magic cutting oil? That’s all we manually/brushed on back in my shop days. That’s all we were provided with. Great work, by the way. Beautiful vise.
Nice work! But what happened to the O-rings...?
well, they weren't there originally. So it would change the look.
You could put a larger O-ring on the end of the screw if the noise bothers you.
How was the original assembled? Welded in place?
More than likely it was swaged in place - which is a lot easier to do when you have some specialized heavy forging machinery in a vice making plant that makes those handles all day long, as opposed to a machine shop that doesn't.
Beautiful looking parts Adam, awesome job!
Somewhere I think I missed what happened with that split nut.
Another fellow said he had a smaller Reed vice and it had the same half nut
A lawnmower can be heard near Adam's shop in this video as we are shoveling snow in Ottawa Canada Darn It ! LOL
It's snowing in Michigan
Solid fix! In those last seconds I was wondering if the Locktite fastener combo can survive the traditional “clonk clonk” of a vise handle being turned...for years. That is one heavy chunk of steel to be slamming on the joint with such regularity.
There is probably a ton of force from the threads being Abom hand tight, the bolt should take all of the forces, the Locktite just keeps the threads from turning.
Torqued to 58ft-lbs = 5800lbs = 3 tons of clamping force.
I can't see the bar imposing more than a a couple hundred pounds of force over the short drop.
Where can I buy the Hand Tool Rescue wrench? I cannot find it on-line. Thanks.
Hello,
What was the magnet used for?
Adam was that nut behind the handle broke and did you have to fix it? man that vise looks awesome
The split nut was a feature of Reed vises that allows you to take up all the slop between the moving jaw and the acme screw. It's meant to be as he found it. This vise will last another 3 generations easy, now that it has been so lovingly rebuilt.
It didn’t show him installing it though, maybe another video?
Maybe after he paints it he'll show us the reassembly. I would watch.
That was cool the way you use the magnet to Center that ball up
I do hope you'll show us the metal putty and paint job.. Thanks, Adam.
Edit: Sorry, I didn't wait 'til the very end.
Is there a reason you used a square head set screw and cut the head rather than using a socket set screw or was your decision just based on the length of hardware you had on hand?
Looking fine there Adam! (You and the vise! ;-) ) I am now itching to ad a Reed to my vise collection/obsession. Nobody tell my Charles Parkers! (Or the Wiltons ;-) )
Now for paint color? Don't know the Reid original factory paint color. Or something different?
why paint it , its nicely polished
@@backyardbasher ....Yes sir, I totally agree!
My bet would be that Adam will leave it in bare metal and just use some rust inhibitor . . . . . .like that big wheelie table
@@oaxelo1 Agreed! Just cover it in rust inhibitor and leave it bare. ^^
Atom I like the drill chart where can I purchase one very nice work as always
Counter boring the ball would have been a nice touch . Both aesthetically and for rigidity.
nice job! try a caterpillar d-ring instead of and oring, probably last longer. thanks for posting!
do you miss working a motion some times ?
Hi Atom,
Did you know Loctite has an Epiration date? Looks like an old bottle.
I didn't see the "O" rings on the handle after you installed it on the vise. Did I miss something?
cause that isn't the final abom torqued fit
@@christophermcgrew9871 Got ya' . . .
Is there an advantage to tapping both parts and using a section of threaded in between as opposed to turning the end of the bar down and threading it??
I would guess ease
You would lose about an inch of length. You save time because you already have to set up to drill and tap, so you can just do both the same way.
I have to guess that he loses less than 1/8 inch of handle length as opposed to a couple of inches. Possibly also less likely to crack and split that end where the screw comes from the handle. Also much easier to set up.
You can use a stronger material for the bolt the way he did it, you are stuck with whatever the handle is if you thread it.
All good replies. Thank you.
Hi, I have a Wilton vise that I recently acquired and I need to make a new handle. Can you help with that????
Good job Adam , awesome fix on the ball man .. Looks great , ENJOYED !
Very nicely done A79...
Anyone ever made a bottoming tap out of a worn or chipped taper tap? I haven't but I've thought about it
Many times...
What happened to two half nut ?????
A thing done well is a thing of beauty!!
Hi Adam, just wanted to let you know that I aint had no content from you for a couple of weeks, so I decided to look back through your old vids to see if I missed somethin about you bein ill, then I seen that you still makin vids but youtube had gone an unsubscribed me from your channel!
I clicked that button to resub, but how many of your followers might this have happened to?
You are an artist Jargl you dazzle us thank God we are watching daily videos you do not Toml
I have anol No20 jacobs chuck, but not super. From where can i get a key for it. Got one off ebbay and the gear does not mach. Thats the one that hold 1" right?
Looks good polished, what would you use to keep it from rusting? Aside from painting it again.
Хороший центр с пружинкой для нарезания резьбы метчиком. Я тоже токарь из России и теперь сделаю такой себе. Спасибо за видео. Интересно что это за приспособление для снятия фасок ?
A good center with a spring for tapping. I am also a turner from Russia and now I will do this for myself. Thank you for the video. I wonder what this device for chamfering?
Tubalcain or mrpete222 has a very nice example of a tap follower for you to make for your Self. If you turn, it's a nice work.
I don't know the make and model but I believe it is a pen style deburring tool or reamer. I think Adam told us what it was in another video but I can't remember .
Great work as always. You do the kind of machining I would like to do but my little 1340 ENCO can never match the Great BIG American iron you have! LOL Thought you were going to put some rubber washer bumpers on the handle. Great looking vise! ABOM SIZE!
Curious why you didn’t put male threads on the bar? Was it to maintain same length?
why never had a chance of making tap and diy tail stock holders?
Really glad Adam cleaned the end of the stud before he assembled the ball on the rod. I'm a little OCD.
I saw 2 marvel saws today. What gorgeous old machines. The guy only wanted $800 for them. If I’d had room for one of them I’d have bought both. Lol
Who makes that deburring tool?
How did Reed put this handle into the vice when they made it? Did Reed put a rod in and upset the ends? I would have expected one of the ends to have a ball which unscrewed as originally made by Reed.
ditto same question!
Same for me. That’s a big ball to form.
I think they welded it. If you look close up when he has the magnet in the chuck squaring up the ball, it looks like a weld join where the ball meets the bar.
Love the magnet ideal. Check your local Tractor Supply for the Ranchers Gloves. I've seen them as Cowhide or Deerhide gloves too.