CORRECTION: Incorrect date at 19:23 - Skarloey arrived in the 1860s. 1806 was when "The Railroad" was laid from the mines to Balladwail. Thanks to Husky Crusader for pointing that out.
Also, I don’t think Cranky was the one that hit Edward in Edward’s Brass Band. That’s because of how Edward is going round a bend at the time and the nearest bend to Cranky is pretty far away. I always thought it was Big Mickey that hit him from the colour of the crane 🤷🏼♂️
To add on to the theories regarding how engines can be ‘related’ to each other, I like to believe that being built by the same company, being the same class, and being built in the same factory results in engines being twins like Donald and Douglas.
I… wouldn’t say that. There can be twins if the engines are built by the same manufacturer, same class, same factory possibly, but also the same colour. This is why Donald & Douglas are twins, but why… um, I don’t know. Engines like 46009 & D199 would be twins, since they were painted in the same livery, but Gordon & Flying Scotsman are brothers because they’re not exactly identical.
@@antonioscholtenI didn’t think diesel as a villain as a child I just figured he was the bully of the trains being different from the steam/electric engines.
Small correction on number 88: Diesel 10 initially had a British Accent (as heard on early trailers), voiced by Keith Scott. This voice was apparently too scary for kids, so Neil Crone took over giving him a Russian accent, but this was considered too offensive, so the voice used in the final film was then used
My favourite fact not mentioned is that Audrey actually intended to write Henry out and replace him, however had a change of mind. Couldn’t pick a favourite fact from this list. A lot of it is impressive and well researched.
One of the reasons he actually changed his mind was that he apparently started getting letters from children asking for more stories about Henry. He had already been second-guessing the idea of writing out Henry, and receiving these letters made him realize it would not have been the right thing to do.
My favourite piece of information is that Henry is always ill, because he's based off stolen blueprints from Sir Nigel Gresley's workshop, Henry's a one off hybrid between two classes and his firebox is too small.
26:35 I've asked that same question myself. Anyways, here's another fact. The Island of Sodor is real. Kinda. Let me explain. Sodor is separated from mainland England by the Walney Channel. The Walney Channel actually exists in real life, separating the real-life Walney Island from England. In the universe of the RWS and Thomas, Walney Island doesn't exist, as it is essentially absorbed into Sodor. And on Walney Island is the city of Vickerstown, which has both a similar name and layout to the fictional Sudrian city of Vicarstown. So you could technically say that Sodor exists in real life, albeit much smaller than in fiction.
To be honest George carlin is a lot more famous here in America than you said, he was extremely popular and considered one of the best of this time and even to this day many credit him for their careers and wanting to be a comedian he also starred in many TV shows and movies Also the fact of the colors for the Northwestern goes as follows up until ducks arrival because sir Topham hat wanted to preserve railway history so most engines kept the original liveries after that. Northwestern blue predominantly passenger work Northwestern green predominantly freight work Northwestern red mixed traffic In the railway series specifically where they stock far more to railway norms and less so in the TV series you can see the engines of specific colors almost exclusively pull that type of train. Also many people say that Donald and Douglas are painted northwestern blue but Audrey claimed that they were painted in Caledonian blue which is what they would’ve been in before British railways painted them black.
The TUGS theme intro made me wish there was a crossover. I'm not getting emotional, you are. Edit: also, the crane that hit Edward was Big Mickey. I guess his death by drowning made him a little... cranky
I have never seen that video of Stanley in space, and now I’m just in pure belief! And about the repeated episode titles, “Thomas in Trouble” could honestly describe 50% of all T&F episodes
Fun fact: In the Journey Beyond Sodor's "I Want To Go Home" song, you can clearly see that Duck is not being shown and you notice that all of the tracks were standard gauge ones, if look at the top right... YOU NOTICE THAT RUSTY IS RIDING ON IT EVEN THOUGH HE WAS A NARROW GAUGE!!!!
Yeah, I noticed that too while rewatching the movie. Rusty being on standard gauge tracks is odd enough, but he’s also the only narrow gauge engine in the group.
12:20 *whoa whoa whoa, hold up* I know that TATMR might have been unpopular for the movie critics and hardcore Thomas fans who think that it was unrealistic, but on the other hand there are quite a few who enjoyed it, partly because of growing up watching it, and some have gone so far as to make rewrites or parodies of the movie which might have even made it better. Heck, just search up the chase scene, and you'll find *tons* of people doing their own takes on it, some probably over a decade old by now. Yes, TATMR might not have been the best movie, but it wasn't that bad, was it? (sorry if I sound like a Karen)
You don't sound like a karen at all dude, nothing wrong with voicing an opinion. Saying that "nobody liked" TATMR was a bit of an overstatement on my part, it's just unpopular with the vast majority of Thomas fans. There are good things about it (Splodge, the chase, the MUSIC), but on the whole it suffered from massive problems on a scale that Thomas has never really seen since. Now don't get me wrong, BWBA and now the reboot are so much worse that TATMR. On TATMR, there was definitely effort. However, as far as I'm aware even the reboot hasn't tried to put magic into the show. Now of course it's so unrealistic that doesn't really matter either way, but TATMR committed a crime that no other piece of Thomas media has ever committed (unless you count those stupid Magical Birthday Wish segments on the official YT channel). The main reason people are still interested in TATMR, and making parodies and alternate takes on it... is because it's a novelty. The director's cut and the uniqueness of the whole magic thing make it very INTERESTING from a production standpoint. People are interested in it, maybe even invested in it, but there are very few who like it. Personally, I don't think it's the worst movie in the history of the franchise, since it had good intentions, but in the end it's still a poor movie with a plot that just doesn't work.
@@TheThomasCynic ay... that was indeed very well explained. The plot situation could be debated (though I actually don't know why Britt Allcroft went in that direction for the movie) but that'll be for another time. I completely agree about it being better than BWBA and the reboot, but I did rewatch it recently and I've noticed all the goofs that showed up in the final cut, especially during the famous chase scene at the end. I have seen clips of the "director's cut," and even though the plot was already pretty complicated as you mentioned in the video, some of the removed scenes definitely would have made the movie make a little more sense (and the song "Some Things Never Leave You" was, imo, a huge mistake to leave almost entirely out of it). In the end, I guess we can agree that TATMR wasn't the best movie, and it didn't do well at all for the franchise as a whole, but there have been some upsides to it. (Also, its arguably the only non-canon official creation of the Thomas franchise, so that's something, I guess.)
Don't mean to burst your bubble #51 is incorrect, a character called Neil was the first engine on Sodor. He worked under the S & M company and brought Skarloey from the harbor to the little railway via one of the 3 early standard gauge railways on Sodor.
5:23 This is because originally, this was going to be the only book, and would end with Henry being bricked up forever in the tunnel. The publishers asked him to write a fourth story to give Henry a happy ending, presumably so that they didn't scare children with such a gruesome ending. Awdry also intended to kill Henry in The Flying Kipper due to issues with how he was drawn, though eventually decided to have him rebuilt.
If they didn’t write the fourth story, I could understand why people were so upset about Henry being left in the tunnel. But he did write a fourth story so I am upset about people being like who oh no Henry died in the tunnel🙄
Also for engine families, I imagine if it's rebuilt as a different class, they'd be adopted - Henry was brought into the Staniers (but may still have a faint connection to Gordon?) for cases like the S15s, where after Urie, Maunsell continued them, I could maybe imagine a half or step-sibling situation.
5:56 Another fact about Hero of the Rails is that is was advertised as "the first" Thomas movie to have a voice cast... This however wasn't true as The Magic Railroad had a cast before HotR.
@@TheThomasCynic Haha I do believe that. Btw I'm not asking you to promote this but I am working on a project called 50 Things Wrong with All Engines Go. S don't worry, I am doing the work for you ;) At the moment I have written the list but still writing the script.
About the TATMR TUGS thing, I’m pretty sure some crew member mentioned that the TUGS were indeed brought over (in cardboard boxes no less), yet Britt denied David the right to put them in. He mentioned that they fought a fair bit about it. It’s theorized Big Mac was among those brought over because of the terrible condition he was sold in.
When you account for inflation, the 25 pounds that Stuart and Falcon each cost translates to 791 pounds today, with the full 50 pounds converting to 1582 pounds. That price is the same as what the newly volunteer operated Talyllyn Railway had to pay for their number 3 and 4 engines. That was not a paltry sum, considering that railway preservation was pioneered by the Talyllyn, they were thus quite in need of money at that time.
Personal fact I really love is that the Culdee Fell engines are the only ones confimed to be able to control their movement more than just swaying or bouncing in the Railway Series. Quote from 'Bad look-out': 'Then I remembered that I had automatic brakes. I could put those on myself.' Which is a line said by Culdee during a test of his braking system.
Same, on my way through Season 2. I'm 25, loved Thomas as a kid but only got to see two VHS tapes regularly, Spills and Chills and Best of Percy, with several others I only got to watch once or so. Rusty and the Boulder is just about my favorite, along with the Duncan Gets Spooked. And I've always wanted to learn more about 'the little engines', but never devoted any time to watching the series. Look up 'Nothing but Tank Engines !' on here, I'm basically addicted to the old British locomotives now. They have so much charm, whereas American locomotives just feel so industrial.
I gotta agree I seen other channels saying the same thing since it focused less on Thomas but focused more on the humans and we seen this kind of pattern in other movies
Splodge should've been in at least "Day of the Diesels" it would've been a great way to try and reintroduce them to the series since they're kinda like Diesel 10's henchmen
There’s 101 facts about a train cartoon And hate comes along just to end it So the annual problem for our generation Is finding a good way to learn them
2:50 Acctualy there are two more titles that got repeaded Thomas Saves The Day (In The US For S1 and S8) And Skarloey The Brave In The Polish Dub For The S9 Episode by the same name and for the S10 episode Wharf and Peace 3:00 Season 15 also didn't haved any newbies 4:45 Toggeethernes was about Edward and Henry so it counts kinda? 6:15 There is a Rumor that Murdoch's Model was going to be used as Hiro
Fact 102: Many camera props and lighting can be seen in certain scenes in season 1. Most notably Edwards station. Fact 103: Real peoples hands have appeared on screen in at least 3 episodes! The Flying Kipper (Pushing Henry off the track), The Diseasel (Pulling on strings to move Bill and Ben), and Toby's Tightrope (A hand is pushing one of Toby's trucks). Fact 104: Going off the last fact, during a test pilot several years before Britt Allcroft grabbed the rights to the show, the BBC made their own model series episode for The Sad Story of Henry, but during the episode Henry's model derailed, and a persons hand came into full view. Picked up Henry, and put him back on the track! Naturally this caused public outrage, and the show was put on hold for a few decades, Until Britt came along. Fact 105: At least 3 Skarloey engines have had accidents while working on the Incline! Peter Sam, Duncan and Skarloey, with the latter 2 actually going up the incline!
7:02, incidentally, stephenson’s rocket actually appeared in the railway series book Thomas and the Great Railway Show. In the tv series, the black wheels line was changed to gray wheels, probably to avoid racism issues. The book Toby, Trucks, and Trouble was also the last railway series book where at least one of it’s stories was adapted. I also think engines whose designers are related to be related themselves. A good example is Stephen Holden and James Holden, who are real life father and son and the respective designers of the b12 ten-wheelers (my interpretation of Alfred/98462’s basis) and the j70 tram engines (Toby’s basis).
I would've never guessed that Mike and Junior wanted to change the theme song. I'm also shocked and impressed that the Tugs would've had a role in TATMR. Now just imagine. That would so confirm the fan theory that Thomas and Tugs exist in the same universe!!
The goof "look out of the train" is connected to another goof on the same episode as a hand was shown in a split second before Thomas passed through the bridge in the station.
Fact 70, I think it's fairly obvious that Mighty Mac are basically conjoined twins. If you split them down the middle, you'd have two engines with two different personalities. And its funny you mention this right before the Culdee Fell engines, since that question applies way more in their case: - we've only read them in text, we've never seen them in action to give us an idea how they exist. We don't know how the faces work, if they're both alive or does one just shut off if its not needed. - And we'll never get an answer for it because of Awdry being dead.
They do have different personalities despite being one engine, but I don’t know what you would get if you split them in half. I personally like them as a double Farlie engine because it’s a design unique to them. One more thing, I don’t think you’d get two engines if you split them down the middle, since they’re built to work as one engine, not two, with how they’re connected.
Number 3 actually shocked me, thats a really good fact. Also that Space Stanley fact is actually why he's one of my favorites despite not having his own episode.
My guess for the reason the tugs didn’t appear in TATMR was the states the models were in at the time Most of them were in storage at shepperton studios, except for OJ, the coast guard, Izzy Gomez, big Mickey, a few shrimpers, the fultan ferry, the cruise liner and other obscure props. And of those named props OJ and the ocean liner and a few shrimpers were the only props that survived the film, due to being shipped to Canada in cardboard boxes. And those props that lived were in their Thomas forms: Lake side III, SS roxxstar. That is probably why the tugs unfortunately didn’t appear in tatmr.
Another song that was going to be included into TATMR was called "he loves, she loves", which would have been joined by a deleted scene of a young Burnett Stone dancing with Tasha in a flashback.
Question on number 44. When did James visit Thomas’ branch. Going through all the engines in order: 1: Thomas obviously works on the line. 2: Edward may have visited during the events of Percy Runs Away as it he said he want to the quarry to collect trucks although this could be referring to the clay pits on his own line. Either way it is logical to assume that Edward assisted in the construction of the line as he was one of the first engines to arrive in 1915. 3: I also can’t find any reference to Henry on Thomas’s branch. 4: Gordon went onto to branch to rescue Thomas in Down The Mine. 5: I can’t find any example of James on the line. 6/7: Percy and Toby operate the line 8: Duck assist on the line in The Runaway 9/10: assist Thomas after his crash in Thomas Comes to Breakfast 11: No example found. Side note: it would be really interesting to see which characters in both the Railway Series and the TV show have met and know of each other. For example would Toby have ever met Rex, Bert and Mike? Would the narrow gauge know about Mavis?
@@jaanshersaeed4541 That’s true but he could have been waiting for James’ train at the junction with James coming along the main line. There is a story (I can’t for the life of me remember which one) where James shunts trucks to Thomas’s top station while Thomas is at the quarry. The story involves a truck detailing and spilling its load of stone. Bertie was involved somehow.
I'm gonna list the ones that I didn't know. BTW I'm a huge Thomas nerd, and I was really excited to learn some new things when I found out you were making this. Number 4: This is more of a technicality. I didn't know that they were gonna appear in Season 6, but I knew that they were gonna appear in the other specials mentioned. 1/2 a point. Number 5: I didn't know about Thomas in Trouble, but I knew about the others. I'd also like to mention that Thomas Saves the Day appeared once in Season 1 and again in Season 8. 1/2 point. Number 12: The first full point. I did not know this one at all. 1 point. Number 22: Again, didn't know this one. Really cool fact. 1 point. Number 36: I didn't know about any of these people. 1 point. Number 37: Two in a row. I didn't even realize that this one had one more story. 1 point. Number 42: I sorta knew that these episodes didn't include Thomas. I watched all of them, but I never really took a mental note and said "This episode doesn't include Thomas in it." I'm gonna give half a point because of that. 1/2 a point. Number 45: This is similar to number 42. I've heard all of these different variations, but I never thought about how many they were. To me, it was just music playing in the background of an episode. 1/2 a point. Number 47: A lot of facts in the 40s. Didn't know about how he was the publicity manager, but I did know about the thin clergyman. 1/2 a point. Number 50: I didn't realize this one. 1 point. Number 57: I really wish that we had gotten Michael Angelis for TATMR. 1 point. Number 67: I totally forgot about that line the Lorries from Toby's introduction. Very interesting. 1 point. Number 68: I haven't watched much of Jack in the Pack, so that's why I didn't know this one. 1 point. Number 81: Didn't know this one, and a lot of interesting stories could be made with them. 1 point. Number 82: I wouldn't have taken him as a dropout. Interesting. 1 point. Number 85: This episode was always my guilty pleasure, and I was always interesting as to how they got the carpet to work. 1 point. Number 90: Didn't know this one. I get that they were desperate for money but WOW! 1 point. Number 96: Of course I wouldn't know this one, who the f*** would've counted that? 1 point. Number 98: I'm surprised that I never knew about these characters. 1 point. Number 100: I knew about TATMR's name change, but I didn't know about the others. 1/2 a point. Number 101: Again, I didn't count the number of hours. 1 point. Out of 101 facts, I didn't know 18 of them. Well technically the ones with half points are counted as full facts, but it doesn't matter. I'm honestly impressed with myself that I knew this many (which is 83 by the way) facts about Thomas.
Sadly I've done that marathon twice in my life and I've regretted it both times, it always starts out fantasticly amazing and always ends badly and makes me sad.
The things I did not know: -These celebrities having a connection to Thomas. -Henry and Oliver being the only engines of the first 11 to never be on Thomas' Branch. -Mike and Junior considering a new theme song. -The Trainspotters Society. -And I was not exactly aware of some of these statistics. Also, Blue Mountain Mystery was originally called "The Runaway Engine", so there are at least four films with changed titles, and what exactly is the source for Splodge being planned in S6 and CAE!?
Wow, I didn't know that about BMM! Prefer the title we got though. I can't dig it up right now, but I'll recite what I know from memory. Splodge were going to be in Middle Engine instead of the role that 'Arry and Bert play (but as far as I'm aware they had no other roles planned in S6). And then in CAE they were just going to be background characters, not really important to the plot but they were gonna be there.
@@TheThomasCynic I just want to point out that Henry has been on Thomas' line in the television series, specifically during season 1 in the episode Whistles and Sneezes. And Oliver has also been on Thomas' line as well, granted we don't actually see him there, in the season 4 episode Thomas and the special letter, as Thomas is showing Oliver the routes of his line. So that fact has been debunked. There's also some other tidbits that I found that were slightly inaccurate (Can't remember what they were, but I'll rewatch to see if I'm right) but other than that, definitely an interesting video.
@@mayoroicjre It was the Railway Series I was referring to. So that fact isn't "debunked". The main inaccuracy I'm aware of is the one I put up a pinned comment about. Believe it or not, it's actually a tiny bit of hard work to get a video like this 100% right.
14:16 In the cut, I’m sure there was a 2nd villain to the movie, “P.T. Boomer” who teamed up with Diesel 10 in the chase scene, but barely anything else is known about him apart from the fact that he was after Bennett Stone and Lady. They removed him everywhere apart from one part of the chase scene where they forgot to remove his character who appears in the shot as a solid black figurine.
Fact 15, there were actually face masks made for Kevin and Victor implying it could’ve been an entirely model production. Implying either early regret at the cgi based off what season 12 was or just generally a cheaper budget. Like genuinely if I was like Nitrogen Studios or whoever was animating at the time, I would’ve used the models as basically the story board after switching to cgi. Like yeah you could draw all the scenes in locations and then animate them again, or you could have a set, take pictures of said set, then storyboard off of those.
Either way, I’m glad they were introduced at some point because I really like both of them. It’s also a good thing the Steamworks went through, because otherwise both of them possibly never would’ve been introduced and the main plot of of Blue Mountain Mystery never would’ve existed if Victor wasn’t introduced.
Wow. . .this was quite an amazing compilation! Only knew slightly lower than half of the facts prior, so I certainly have some more Thomas studying to do.
I'm brand new to the _Thomas_ fandom and I tend to hang around the edges of the fandom, and I'd just like to say how much I appreciate the apoliticism of this community. Every other hobby and interest of mine-numismatics, war history, video games, and even psychopharmacology-are politicized, some more than others. It's tiring seeing everything devolve into political arguments. But the _Thomas_ community isn't politicized. It's refreshing to see a dedicated online community that doesn't insert politics into everything.
19:36 Neil arrived before Skarloey and even Neil was the number 2 engine on the Sodor and Midland railway. The no1 was probably the first engine on Sodor.
@ uh…just so you know, I’m a female, so I’d appreciate it if you didn’t call me sir. I’m not sure who this Neil is, to be honest. I’m assuming he’s an engine that appeared only in the RWS, as I would know if an engine named that appeared in the television series.
@@JZJ7777 sorry for misgendering dear mrs JZJ7777, just to clarify, the sodor and mainland railway opened in 18xx on the island (rws only) but it was before the skarloey railway. The s&m had three boxtank engines, no2 was named neil. Neil was the one to offload skarloey from the ship in kirk ronan harbour in 1863, implying he was there before skarloey. Plus, he was no2 so the unnamed no1 was probably the first engine on the island. Sorry for the missgender, as a male who speaks little english, I usually use the word guys ( or chlapi in my native language (slovakian)) fir everyone. Hope i clarified.
Holy hell, that fact about the lead in the red paint… that brings back so many memories. I was 7 years old and had JUST gotten James, like, maybe a day earlier, and I remember bawling my eyes out because my mom was making me return it… what a throwback. 😂
That Edward crane explanation ... actually makes a fair bit of sense. Every chance that crane derailment was Edward's first real accident in many years.
couple of minor corrections, and a interesting note. Wisbech is pronounced Wis Beach. Its on the Norfolk/Cambridgeshire border in the Fens, and lays on the A47 road between Kings Lynn and Peterborough, roughly North of March. The Wisbech and upwell tramway is also where the full size Mavis worked. These two types of engines also worked on the (Great) Yarmouth harbour railway, and the Ipswich Harbour railways. Audry was involved in a (now dormant) project at the Nene Valley Railway to build a fill size look alike of Toby based around a Cockerill steam tram. When the original Thomas Stories were written, the national school leaving age in the UK for a state school was 14. Prior to 1918 is was only 12. This was increased to 15 in 1944, to 16 in 1972, 17 in 2013, and 18 in 2015, So Sir Topham Hatt wasn't a school dropout. Boys started their aprentaships at 14 prior to WW2, which is what he would have been if at Swindon works on the GWR. When the Rev. W Audry wrote the stories, £50 was quite a lot of money. Four little engines was written in 1955. Today it would be £1,341.53 Scrap metal prices in 1955 were still controlled by the UK government, and were limited to £1 12s 5d (£1.64p) per ton. Considering these little locos only weight around 10 tons, £25 each was well over scrap price. Audry was also heavily involved in the Talyllyn railway. Most of Rev W Audry's stories were based on true events. Saved from scrap for instance was based on the Teddy Boston saving his Foster Traction engine, alnough in the the illustrations and the TVS this was modelled on a Garrett No. 4 steam tractor.
Also I got 46 (kinda and 1/2 because I knew that Sharon Miller became voice director but not the Queen in The Royal Engine.) Congrats on getting your first sponsorship! That must be a huge achievement.
12:45 Bonus fact despite this connection between Sodor and Barrow-in-Furness they have a professional sports team called Barrow FC which the Awdry's, Britt Allcroft, Hit or Mattel never have sponsored this team. Despite having a blue, and white home kit
12:49 #31 I remember distinctly having to return all my red Wooden Railway engines (ex. James) at the age of 4, because my mom read about the recall and didn’t want me to get lead poisoning. I cried for a long time after that.
Actually, we do know what Bertram’s Tank Engine design would’ve looked like. The original wooden train for Bertram was based off what he would originally look like.
As a note on the Tugs models being lost, they weren't lost until after the Mitton's death in 2008. They were kept in a private locker at Shepperton. Most likely, it would have been a little too expensive to shoot that, with too little payoff since most fans probably wouldn't have recognized them, especially since the show had been over for 10 years at this point.
12:00 Actually, Edward was hit by Big Mickey, another crane in Breaden Dock without face until season 21. He used to be a Tugs characters. He started being a set since season 3.
In relation to No.88: Now hear me out, Diesel 10 with a German accent. It actually makes sense if you think about it. He's a class 42/43 Warship. The Warships were based on a German diesel-hydraulic, the DB Class V 200.
24:05 WildNorWester actually remade this in a modded Train Simulator I think it was, and it had 4 parts. Watched it myself, and the plot is amazingly great.
Thoughts 1. Oh My God you have a sponsor now?! Dude congratulations! 2. I knew 64/101 facts. Meaning I’m a hardcore fan yessss! 3. Another thing you left out about Webber was that The Railway Series went on to serve as the inspiration for one of his musicals, Starlight Express. 4. Actually Cynic, All Engines Go isn’t Season 25, it’s a different show altogether. 5. Well, I dislike the HiT Era but I personally feel S9 is the best of that era :) 6. It’s also worth mentioning that there was a short film where Thomas crossed over with a Japanese kids show. 7. You remembered to link Luke Ryan’s video! 8. I don’t think Vinnie is an antagonist. Diesel in BMM would be a more suitable choice. 9. Actually, they thought Keith Scott was too scary for kids. The Russian accent, they thought was too offensive. 10. Yeah, even Olivia Colman and Jamie Campbell-Bower were in SLotLT 11. I really love how Cranky is such an essential character to the show at this point. 12. Actually Cynic, Tale of the Brave also had a different original title. You should look it up.
I was a HUGE train kid when I was younger, so to figure out that Thomas was a pretty huge part of Tom Hanks's warms my heart, since he played basically every character in The Polar Express
and correction for 44, Henry has appeared on Thomas's Branchline in at 3:40 in the episode "Coal" the bridge he goes under is part of the loop line, which doubles as Thomas's Branchline before Elsbridge
I noticed 4 wrong facts. 03:00: Number 6; Series 8 actually featured a new character, and that was Kuffy the Clown, which in fact was Mr. Bubbles. And Series 15 was the series that didn't feature any new characters, outside of minor characters. 08:20: Number 21; there aren't 5 Rev. W. Awdry books, that's about The Skarloey Railway, because Duke the Lost Engine is about the Mid Sodor Railway, and not the Skarloey Railway, so 19 of those books is about The North Western Railway, 4 of them is about The Skarloey Railway, and there are 3 books that neither is about The North Western Railway or The Skarloey Railway, and those are 1 about The Culdee Fell Railway, 1 about The Arlesdale Railway and 1 about The Mid Sodor Railway. 19:20: Number 51; Skarloey was not the first engine to arrive on Sodor, instead it was the Sodor and Mainland engines (Neil and his brothers) who arrived around 1856, and Skarloey arrived in 1865, which means that Skarloey didn't arrive in 1806, or over 100 years prior to the release of The Railway Series. 24:03: Number 65; Barry the Rescue Engine was written by Christopher Awdry, not Wilbert Awdry, and the 27th Railway Series Book was always going to be titled Really Useful Engines, not Barry the Rescue Engine.
61(ish)/ 101 Some facts I half knew, so I didn't include them when I counted. Including those, I would probably get around 70. A few things: -HOTR did actually have a model series logo used on early trackmaster packaging -Splode in CAE doesn't really make sense, as they are just arry and bert repainted. However in this shot, arry has a small purple patch on him th-cam.com/video/gjKalKJeqUo/w-d-xo.html -HOTR and TGD may have originally been 1 movie, look at the similarities: Leader of the Track and Hero of the rails seem like similar titles, stanley originally had a cut main role in HOTR, both movies involve thomas finding something old and having it restored. -The DOTD darker cut: I have a theory as to what it may have been about. In one scene, Diesel 10 orders den and dart to push thomas to the back shed. Soon afterwards, the dieselworks catches fire because diesel 10 accidently made sparks with his claw. But why though? It's never explained. However I think that in the original cut, Diesel 10 DELIBERATLY set fire to the Dieselworks, and told den and dart to push thomas to the back shed to make sure he cannot escape and dies in the fire. Wow, now I can see why it may have been considered dark.
CORRECTION: Incorrect date at 19:23 - Skarloey arrived in the 1860s. 1806 was when "The Railroad" was laid from the mines to Balladwail. Thanks to Husky Crusader for pointing that out.
I'm glad you got better from COVID-19
Quick question for fact 100 was the poem you referenced charge of the light brigade
Also, I don’t think Cranky was the one that hit Edward in Edward’s Brass Band. That’s because of how Edward is going round a bend at the time and the nearest bend to Cranky is pretty far away. I always thought it was Big Mickey that hit him from the colour of the crane 🤷🏼♂️
The S&M engines also arrived before Skarloey.
Also number 100 you forgot the tale of the brave name changes
To add on to the theories regarding how engines can be ‘related’ to each other, I like to believe that being built by the same company, being the same class, and being built in the same factory results in engines being twins like Donald and Douglas.
A lot of diesels don't have a single builder.
I… wouldn’t say that.
There can be twins if the engines are built by the same manufacturer, same class, same factory possibly, but also the same colour.
This is why Donald & Douglas are twins, but why… um, I don’t know.
Engines like 46009 & D199 would be twins, since they were painted in the same livery, but Gordon & Flying Scotsman are brothers because they’re not exactly identical.
Would Dennis and Norman be brothers since they somewhat look alike
@@legomxstudios Yes, I would say that.
@@sdmedia1323 disagree on the paint thing, look back to season 18 where bill and ben were painted blue and yellow for a short period of time
Here’s an extra fact: in an interview with Ringo Starr in the late 80’s, he stated his favorite character was diesel.
Wow, A former Beatle actually does.
Even though he is a "villain" which he is not nowadays. *Coughs* All Engine Go *Coughs*
@@antonioscholtenI didn’t think diesel as a villain as a child I just figured he was the bully of the trains being different from the steam/electric engines.
Small correction on number 88: Diesel 10 initially had a British Accent (as heard on early trailers), voiced by Keith Scott. This voice was apparently too scary for kids, so Neil Crone took over giving him a Russian accent, but this was considered too offensive, so the voice used in the final film was then used
It’s crazy to think that Thomas wouldn’t exist if Christopher Awdry never got the measles…
Fr
Good things came out of something bad, like having the measles.
@@jazmineferguson7711 Exactly.
@@jazmineferguson7711It was a canon event 😂
So if I get Covid-19, I’ll make a fictional childhood favorite character to mind?
My favourite fact not mentioned is that Audrey actually intended to write Henry out and replace him, however had a change of mind.
Couldn’t pick a favourite fact from this list. A lot of it is impressive and well researched.
One of the reasons he actually changed his mind was that he apparently started getting letters from children asking for more stories about Henry. He had already been second-guessing the idea of writing out Henry, and receiving these letters made him realize it would not have been the right thing to do.
The fact that the writers didn't try to clarify what Miller meant by Paxman instead of assuming she meant Paxton amazes me
My favourite piece of information is that Henry is always ill, because he's based off stolen blueprints from Sir Nigel Gresley's workshop, Henry's a one off hybrid between two classes and his firebox is too small.
26:35 I've asked that same question myself.
Anyways, here's another fact. The Island of Sodor is real. Kinda. Let me explain. Sodor is separated from mainland England by the Walney Channel. The Walney Channel actually exists in real life, separating the real-life Walney Island from England. In the universe of the RWS and Thomas, Walney Island doesn't exist, as it is essentially absorbed into Sodor. And on Walney Island is the city of Vickerstown, which has both a similar name and layout to the fictional Sudrian city of Vicarstown. So you could technically say that Sodor exists in real life, albeit much smaller than in fiction.
#OverthinkingKidsShows
Seriously dude, never thought about it like this but that's sick as heck.
Sodor is real in way because it’s based on the Isle of Man. I’ve been there. And it’s a big thing there!!!!
Pretty sure alot of people know this
@@TankEngine75 Well that's where you'd be wrong. Not many people know that. Even I didn't know that until a few months ago.
I didnt know this either. I doubt a lot of people know this.
The Thomas Cynic when he gets sponsored: stonks
But jokes aside congrats on getting sponsored.
Thomas had an impact on Tom Hank's life? Makes you wonder why he didn't become a narrator at one point.
To be honest George carlin is a lot more famous here in America than you said, he was extremely popular and considered one of the best of this time and even to this day many credit him for their careers and wanting to be a comedian he also starred in many TV shows and movies
Also the fact of the colors for the Northwestern goes as follows up until ducks arrival because sir Topham hat wanted to preserve railway history so most engines kept the original liveries after that.
Northwestern blue predominantly passenger work
Northwestern green predominantly freight work
Northwestern red mixed traffic
In the railway series specifically where they stock far more to railway norms and less so in the TV series you can see the engines of specific colors almost exclusively pull that type of train.
Also many people say that Donald and Douglas are painted northwestern blue but Audrey claimed that they were painted in Caledonian blue which is what they would’ve been in before British railways painted them black.
The TUGS theme intro made me wish there was a crossover. I'm not getting emotional, you are.
Edit: also, the crane that hit Edward was Big Mickey. I guess his death by drowning made him a little... cranky
Hehehehehe puns
I have never seen that video of Stanley in space, and now I’m just in pure belief! And about the repeated episode titles, “Thomas in Trouble” could honestly describe 50% of all T&F episodes
I remember the lead paint crisis! Had to give up my toys to be replaced. Got a free SC Ruffey model as an apology!
Aww that's really wholesome :)
Aww that’s really wholesome :)
ruh roh
Season 15 neither introduced a characters, and Gordon's hill appeared in every season as well. all in all, great vid tho ;)
The magic railroad is just Thomas on a acid trip.
6:45 Stafford is also one of these engines! I’ve actually seen him at the NRM several years ago.
Fun fact: In the Journey Beyond Sodor's "I Want To Go Home" song, you can clearly see that Duck is not being shown and you notice that all of the tracks were standard gauge ones, if look at the top right...
YOU NOTICE THAT RUSTY IS RIDING ON IT EVEN THOUGH HE WAS A NARROW GAUGE!!!!
Yes
So, is Rusty a Rail-car? Like Flynn?
That's odd🤔
I can’t see it
Yeah, I noticed that too while rewatching the movie. Rusty being on standard gauge tracks is odd enough, but he’s also the only narrow gauge engine in the group.
12:20 *whoa whoa whoa, hold up*
I know that TATMR might have been unpopular for the movie critics and hardcore Thomas fans who think that it was unrealistic, but on the other hand there are quite a few who enjoyed it, partly because of growing up watching it, and some have gone so far as to make rewrites or parodies of the movie which might have even made it better. Heck, just search up the chase scene, and you'll find *tons* of people doing their own takes on it, some probably over a decade old by now.
Yes, TATMR might not have been the best movie, but it wasn't that bad, was it?
(sorry if I sound like a Karen)
You don't sound like a karen at all dude, nothing wrong with voicing an opinion. Saying that "nobody liked" TATMR was a bit of an overstatement on my part, it's just unpopular with the vast majority of Thomas fans.
There are good things about it (Splodge, the chase, the MUSIC), but on the whole it suffered from massive problems on a scale that Thomas has never really seen since. Now don't get me wrong, BWBA and now the reboot are so much worse that TATMR. On TATMR, there was definitely effort. However, as far as I'm aware even the reboot hasn't tried to put magic into the show. Now of course it's so unrealistic that doesn't really matter either way, but TATMR committed a crime that no other piece of Thomas media has ever committed (unless you count those stupid Magical Birthday Wish segments on the official YT channel).
The main reason people are still interested in TATMR, and making parodies and alternate takes on it... is because it's a novelty. The director's cut and the uniqueness of the whole magic thing make it very INTERESTING from a production standpoint. People are interested in it, maybe even invested in it, but there are very few who like it. Personally, I don't think it's the worst movie in the history of the franchise, since it had good intentions, but in the end it's still a poor movie with a plot that just doesn't work.
@@TheThomasCynic ay... that was indeed very well explained. The plot situation could be debated (though I actually don't know why Britt Allcroft went in that direction for the movie) but that'll be for another time. I completely agree about it being better than BWBA and the reboot, but I did rewatch it recently and I've noticed all the goofs that showed up in the final cut, especially during the famous chase scene at the end. I have seen clips of the "director's cut," and even though the plot was already pretty complicated as you mentioned in the video, some of the removed scenes definitely would have made the movie make a little more sense (and the song "Some Things Never Leave You" was, imo, a huge mistake to leave almost entirely out of it).
In the end, I guess we can agree that TATMR wasn't the best movie, and it didn't do well at all for the franchise as a whole, but there have been some upsides to it. (Also, its arguably the only non-canon official creation of the Thomas franchise, so that's something, I guess.)
TATMR is my favorite movie
I like TATMR
@@TheMonDon1721 I second that. XDD
Don't mean to burst your bubble #51 is incorrect, a character called Neil was the first engine on Sodor. He worked under the S & M company and brought Skarloey from the harbor to the little railway via one of the 3 early standard gauge railways on Sodor.
The original TATMR is way less confusing than the cut down version tbh 🤣🤣🤣 nice video, as always !
5:23 This is because originally, this was going to be the only book, and would end with Henry being bricked up forever in the tunnel. The publishers asked him to write a fourth story to give Henry a happy ending, presumably so that they didn't scare children with such a gruesome ending. Awdry also intended to kill Henry in The Flying Kipper due to issues with how he was drawn, though eventually decided to have him rebuilt.
So if they followed the original and henry died who will replace him then?
If they didn’t write the fourth story, I could understand why people were so upset about Henry being left in the tunnel. But he did write a fourth story so I am upset about people being like who oh no Henry died in the tunnel🙄
Also for engine families, I imagine if it's rebuilt as a different class, they'd be adopted - Henry was brought into the Staniers (but may still have a faint connection to Gordon?) for cases like the S15s, where after Urie, Maunsell continued them, I could maybe imagine a half or step-sibling situation.
Yeah, that would make sense.
@@TheThomasCynic sorry to change the subject but if u included me in ur channel, can u call me Sharkbait?
* Bumps you from behind *
Thomas: What are you doing, Step-Ney?
Stepney: Shut-
@@minecraftbee5649 ummmm…wut?
5:56 Another fact about Hero of the Rails is that is was advertised as "the first" Thomas movie to have a voice cast... This however wasn't true as The Magic Railroad had a cast before HotR.
Once Magic Railroad flopped at the box office, I think the brand just tried to forget it existed.
@@TheThomasCynic Haha I do believe that. Btw I'm not asking you to promote this but I am working on a project called 50 Things Wrong with All Engines Go. S don't worry, I am doing the work for you ;) At the moment I have written the list but still writing the script.
About the TATMR TUGS thing, I’m pretty sure some crew member mentioned that the TUGS were indeed brought over (in cardboard boxes no less), yet Britt denied David the right to put them in. He mentioned that they fought a fair bit about it. It’s theorized Big Mac was among those brought over because of the terrible condition he was sold in.
That one space video hit my nostalgia harder than a rock.
When you account for inflation, the 25 pounds that Stuart and Falcon each cost translates to 791 pounds today, with the full 50 pounds converting to 1582 pounds.
That price is the same as what the newly volunteer operated Talyllyn Railway had to pay for their number 3 and 4 engines. That was not a paltry sum, considering that railway preservation was pioneered by the Talyllyn, they were thus quite in need of money at that time.
Didn't think of that, good reasoning.
Personal fact I really love is that the Culdee Fell engines are the only ones confimed to be able to control their movement more than just swaying or bouncing in the Railway Series. Quote from 'Bad look-out': 'Then I remembered that I had automatic brakes. I could put those on myself.' Which is a line said by Culdee during a test of his braking system.
I've been watching season 1 - 5 (currently midway into season 4) and I can say it's brilliant television.
Look forward to Season 5 - it's the best of the best.
Same
But I am halfway through season five already.
Same, on my way through Season 2. I'm 25, loved Thomas as a kid but only got to see two VHS tapes regularly, Spills and Chills and Best of Percy, with several others I only got to watch once or so.
Rusty and the Boulder is just about my favorite, along with the Duncan Gets Spooked. And I've always wanted to learn more about 'the little engines', but never devoted any time to watching the series.
Look up 'Nothing but Tank Engines !' on here, I'm basically addicted to the old British locomotives now. They have so much charm, whereas American locomotives just feel so industrial.
@@ahums16 'Rusty and the Boulder' is my favourite as well 💕
2:41 Love Me Tender's working title was 'Donald & Douglas', had it been used it would've been the 4th... however only in the US titles for the show.
Yo i love ur content
Mr. Conductor and the Magic Railroad should have been the title of TATMR because it wasn't focused majorly on the trains.
I gotta agree I seen other channels saying the same thing since it focused less on Thomas but focused more on the humans and we seen this kind of pattern in other movies
Splodge should've been in at least "Day of the Diesels" it would've been a great way to try and reintroduce them to the series since they're kinda like Diesel 10's henchmen
There’s 101 facts about a train cartoon
And hate comes along just to end it
So the annual problem for our generation
Is finding a good way to learn them
2:50
Acctualy there are two more titles that got repeaded
Thomas Saves The Day (In The US For S1 and S8)
And Skarloey The Brave In The Polish Dub For The S9 Episode by the same name and for the S10 episode Wharf and Peace
3:00 Season 15 also didn't haved any newbies
4:45 Toggeethernes was about Edward and Henry so it counts kinda?
6:15 There is a Rumor that Murdoch's Model was going to be used as Hiro
Ahh right, I was going by the UK titles.
Bertie's Chase and A Friends in Need almost got repeaded in Norway, The norwegian title of Bertie's Chase is A Friend in the Need.
In Romania Toad stands by is called The break van. Same as the Season 2 episode break van
Fact 102: Many camera props and lighting can be seen in certain scenes in season 1. Most notably Edwards station.
Fact 103: Real peoples hands have appeared on screen in at least 3 episodes! The Flying Kipper (Pushing Henry off the track), The Diseasel (Pulling on strings to move Bill and Ben), and Toby's Tightrope (A hand is pushing one of Toby's trucks).
Fact 104: Going off the last fact, during a test pilot several years before Britt Allcroft grabbed the rights to the show, the BBC made their own model series episode for The Sad Story of Henry, but during the episode Henry's model derailed, and a persons hand came into full view. Picked up Henry, and put him back on the track! Naturally this caused public outrage, and the show was put on hold for a few decades, Until Britt came along.
Fact 105: At least 3 Skarloey engines have had accidents while working on the Incline! Peter Sam, Duncan and Skarloey, with the latter 2 actually going up the incline!
7:02, incidentally, stephenson’s rocket actually appeared in the railway series book Thomas and the Great Railway Show. In the tv series, the black wheels line was changed to gray wheels, probably to avoid racism issues. The book Toby, Trucks, and Trouble was also the last railway series book where at least one of it’s stories was adapted. I also think engines whose designers are related to be related themselves. A good example is Stephen Holden and James Holden, who are real life father and son and the respective designers of the b12 ten-wheelers (my interpretation of Alfred/98462’s basis) and the j70 tram engines (Toby’s basis).
I would've never guessed that Mike and Junior wanted to change the theme song.
I'm also shocked and impressed that the Tugs would've had a role in TATMR. Now just imagine. That would so confirm the fan theory that Thomas and Tugs exist in the same universe!!
26:58 that was a very sharp turn for Gordon and James, they should've derailed with that spped, BUT that is only my opinion.
The goof "look out of the train" is connected to another goof on the same episode as a hand was shown in a split second before Thomas passed through the bridge in the station.
Fact 70, I think it's fairly obvious that Mighty Mac are basically conjoined twins. If you split them down the middle, you'd have two engines with two different personalities.
And its funny you mention this right before the Culdee Fell engines, since that question applies way more in their case:
- we've only read them in text, we've never seen them in action to give us an idea how they exist. We don't know how the faces work, if they're both alive or does one just shut off if its not needed.
- And we'll never get an answer for it because of Awdry being dead.
They do have different personalities despite being one engine, but I don’t know what you would get if you split them in half. I personally like them as a double Farlie engine because it’s a design unique to them. One more thing, I don’t think you’d get two engines if you split them down the middle, since they’re built to work as one engine, not two, with how they’re connected.
Number 3 actually shocked me, thats a really good fact. Also that Space Stanley fact is actually why he's one of my favorites despite not having his own episode.
My guess for the reason the tugs didn’t appear in TATMR was the states the models were in at the time
Most of them were in storage at shepperton studios, except for OJ, the coast guard, Izzy Gomez, big Mickey, a few shrimpers, the fultan ferry, the cruise liner and other obscure props. And of those named props OJ and the ocean liner and a few shrimpers were the only props that survived the film, due to being shipped to Canada in cardboard boxes. And those props that lived were in their Thomas forms: Lake side III, SS roxxstar. That is probably why the tugs unfortunately didn’t appear in tatmr.
Another song that was going to be included into TATMR was called "he loves, she loves", which would have been joined by a deleted scene of a young Burnett Stone dancing with Tasha in a flashback.
Honestly, I feel like the cousin thing is only valid if you’re not the same class of engine but related to the class of said engine.
Yeah, that makes sense.
That must be the case with Gordon and Spencer then, because Spencer is Gordon’s cousin.
Question on number 44. When did James visit Thomas’ branch. Going through all the engines in order:
1: Thomas obviously works on the line.
2: Edward may have visited during the events of Percy Runs Away as it he said he want to the quarry to collect trucks although this could be referring to the clay pits on his own line. Either way it is logical to assume that Edward assisted in the construction of the line as he was one of the first engines to arrive in 1915.
3: I also can’t find any reference to Henry on Thomas’s branch.
4: Gordon went onto to branch to rescue Thomas in Down The Mine.
5: I can’t find any example of James on the line.
6/7: Percy and Toby operate the line
8: Duck assist on the line in The Runaway
9/10: assist Thomas after his crash in Thomas Comes to Breakfast
11: No example found.
Side note: it would be really interesting to see which characters in both the Railway Series and the TV show have met and know of each other. For example would Toby have ever met Rex, Bert and Mike? Would the narrow gauge know about Mavis?
In the RWS version of “Thomas and Bertie”, while at Elsbridge during the race, Thomas had to wait for James to pass by
@@jaanshersaeed4541 That’s true but he could have been waiting for James’ train at the junction with James coming along the main line. There is a story (I can’t for the life of me remember which one) where James shunts trucks to Thomas’s top station while Thomas is at the quarry. The story involves a truck detailing and spilling its load of stone. Bertie was involved somehow.
Edward and Toby have never met
@@AJOlaks They met in Eight Famous Engines when the first eight numbered engines went to the main line. Also Toby and Edward speak in Cows.
@@jackdowd4746 wait, how do they speak in cows?
Fun fact: in the intro to bulls eye in the polish dub Toby is referred to as electric
*ELECTRIC INDEED!! ELECTRIC INDEED!!*
Well that sucks XD
I'm gonna list the ones that I didn't know. BTW I'm a huge Thomas nerd, and I was really excited to learn some new things when I found out you were making this.
Number 4: This is more of a technicality. I didn't know that they were gonna appear in Season 6, but I knew that they were gonna appear in the other specials mentioned. 1/2 a point.
Number 5: I didn't know about Thomas in Trouble, but I knew about the others. I'd also like to mention that Thomas Saves the Day appeared once in Season 1 and again in Season 8. 1/2 point.
Number 12: The first full point. I did not know this one at all. 1 point.
Number 22: Again, didn't know this one. Really cool fact. 1 point.
Number 36: I didn't know about any of these people. 1 point.
Number 37: Two in a row. I didn't even realize that this one had one more story. 1 point.
Number 42: I sorta knew that these episodes didn't include Thomas. I watched all of them, but I never really took a mental note and said "This episode doesn't include Thomas in it." I'm gonna give half a point because of that. 1/2 a point.
Number 45: This is similar to number 42. I've heard all of these different variations, but I never thought about how many they were. To me, it was just music playing in the background of an episode. 1/2 a point.
Number 47: A lot of facts in the 40s. Didn't know about how he was the publicity manager, but I did know about the thin clergyman. 1/2 a point.
Number 50: I didn't realize this one. 1 point.
Number 57: I really wish that we had gotten Michael Angelis for TATMR. 1 point.
Number 67: I totally forgot about that line the Lorries from Toby's introduction. Very interesting. 1 point.
Number 68: I haven't watched much of Jack in the Pack, so that's why I didn't know this one. 1 point.
Number 81: Didn't know this one, and a lot of interesting stories could be made with them. 1 point.
Number 82: I wouldn't have taken him as a dropout. Interesting. 1 point.
Number 85: This episode was always my guilty pleasure, and I was always interesting as to how they got the carpet to work. 1 point.
Number 90: Didn't know this one. I get that they were desperate for money but WOW! 1 point.
Number 96: Of course I wouldn't know this one, who the f*** would've counted that? 1 point.
Number 98: I'm surprised that I never knew about these characters. 1 point.
Number 100: I knew about TATMR's name change, but I didn't know about the others. 1/2 a point.
Number 101: Again, I didn't count the number of hours. 1 point.
Out of 101 facts, I didn't know 18 of them. Well technically the ones with half points are counted as full facts, but it doesn't matter. I'm honestly impressed with myself that I knew this many (which is 83 by the way) facts about Thomas.
Sadly I've done that marathon twice in my life and I've regretted it both times, it always starts out fantasticly amazing and always ends badly and makes me sad.
This is the first Thomas cynic video I've watched so far, and I have to say, not even a minute in and that Intro is so touching to me.
I personally remember my mom taking away my favorite red engine and poorly explaining lead poisoning to me. That is the only fact I knew.
Same
The things I did not know:
-These celebrities having a connection to Thomas.
-Henry and Oliver being the only engines of the first 11 to never be on Thomas' Branch.
-Mike and Junior considering a new theme song.
-The Trainspotters Society.
-And I was not exactly aware of some of these statistics.
Also, Blue Mountain Mystery was originally called "The Runaway Engine", so there are at least four films with changed titles, and what exactly is the source for Splodge being planned in S6 and CAE!?
Wow, I didn't know that about BMM! Prefer the title we got though.
I can't dig it up right now, but I'll recite what I know from memory. Splodge were going to be in Middle Engine instead of the role that 'Arry and Bert play (but as far as I'm aware they had no other roles planned in S6). And then in CAE they were just going to be background characters, not really important to the plot but they were gonna be there.
@@TheThomasCynic I just want to point out that Henry has been on Thomas' line in the television series, specifically during season 1 in the episode Whistles and Sneezes. And Oliver has also been on Thomas' line as well, granted we don't actually see him there, in the season 4 episode Thomas and the special letter, as Thomas is showing Oliver the routes of his line. So that fact has been debunked. There's also some other tidbits that I found that were slightly inaccurate (Can't remember what they were, but I'll rewatch to see if I'm right) but other than that, definitely an interesting video.
@@mayoroicjre It was the Railway Series I was referring to. So that fact isn't "debunked".
The main inaccuracy I'm aware of is the one I put up a pinned comment about. Believe it or not, it's actually a tiny bit of hard work to get a video like this 100% right.
Henry was actually seen on Thomas' Branchline in Toby Feels Left Out passing Dryaw
Side note I also love Season 9
Barry’s book was planned by Christopher, but he never went through with it because the publishers wanted more stories about Thomas.
14:16 In the cut, I’m sure there was a 2nd villain to the movie, “P.T. Boomer” who teamed up with Diesel 10 in the chase scene, but barely anything else is known about him apart from the fact that he was after Bennett Stone and Lady. They removed him everywhere apart from one part of the chase scene where they forgot to remove his character who appears in the shot as a solid black figurine.
19:27 That date is incorrect, he came to work in 1864/1865. In 1806,the ever first railway line was laid down on sodor,a horse worked quarry.
Ahh shoot, you're totally right. 1806 was just kind of synonymised with "early SKR" in my mind. I'll put a pinned comment up with a correction.
@Husky Crusader Your a true legend!
And also the first box tank Engine was the first
32:17 *That moment when you realize that the real Sir Handel and Peter Sam each cost $135 less than their Bachmann models*
Fact 15, there were actually face masks made for Kevin and Victor implying it could’ve been an entirely model production. Implying either early regret at the cgi based off what season 12 was or just generally a cheaper budget. Like genuinely if I was like Nitrogen Studios or whoever was animating at the time, I would’ve used the models as basically the story board after switching to cgi. Like yeah you could draw all the scenes in locations and then animate them again, or you could have a set, take pictures of said set, then storyboard off of those.
Either way, I’m glad they were introduced at some point because I really like both of them. It’s also a good thing the Steamworks went through, because otherwise both of them possibly never would’ve been introduced and the main plot of of Blue Mountain Mystery never would’ve existed if Victor wasn’t introduced.
Great video, I have loved this show/franchise since I was younger but now at 16 I am actually putting in the time to learn about it 😁
Wow. . .this was quite an amazing compilation! Only knew slightly lower than half of the facts prior, so I certainly have some more Thomas studying to do.
I hope this video blows up and starts getting recommended to lots of people
13 is used for Joey in Victor Tanzigs “Stories of Sodor” series
I'm brand new to the _Thomas_ fandom and I tend to hang around the edges of the fandom, and I'd just like to say how much I appreciate the apoliticism of this community. Every other hobby and interest of mine-numismatics, war history, video games, and even psychopharmacology-are politicized, some more than others. It's tiring seeing everything devolve into political arguments. But the _Thomas_ community isn't politicized. It's refreshing to see a dedicated online community that doesn't insert politics into everything.
Welcome tot he Thomas fandom see in this fandom we hate season 25 and like modelseadons now enjoy your stay!
0:37 I love how you used the Tugs theme for intro music. Good job paying homage to Thomas' sister show
I'm 20 & still, TTE&Fs were an amazing show to watch as a kid
Do you Watch Thomas and the tank engine?
I can just imagine james may sitting at the tv and then an engines crashes and he goes like: THOMAS YOU BLITHERING IDIOT
Omg I had that small engines book! Memories just came pouring back!
i actually really like the Thomas and the Magic Railroad-
in fact it's one of my favorite movies
19:36 Neil arrived before Skarloey and even Neil was the number 2 engine on the Sodor and Midland railway. The no1 was probably the first engine on Sodor.
Also a cool thing is that your 55 fact was from the engine no55
Well, Skarloey is No. 1 on all of the railways he’s worked on, implying he was the first engine on Sodor.
@@JZJ7777 I have to disagree good sir, I rewrote the ios book from pc to paper to get a copy of it, so i am pretty sure I know it well....
@ uh…just so you know, I’m a female, so I’d appreciate it if you didn’t call me sir. I’m not sure who this Neil is, to be honest. I’m assuming he’s an engine that appeared only in the RWS, as I would know if an engine named that appeared in the television series.
@@JZJ7777 sorry for misgendering dear mrs JZJ7777, just to clarify, the sodor and mainland railway opened in 18xx on the island (rws only) but it was before the skarloey railway. The s&m had three boxtank engines, no2 was named neil. Neil was the one to offload skarloey from the ship in kirk ronan harbour in 1863, implying he was there before skarloey. Plus, he was no2 so the unnamed no1 was probably the first engine on the island.
Sorry for the missgender, as a male who speaks little english, I usually use the word guys ( or chlapi in my native language (slovakian)) fir everyone.
Hope i clarified.
Going in to this I thought I would know most all of these, but I learned a lot from this! Good job on the video!
Holy hell, that fact about the lead in the red paint… that brings back so many memories. I was 7 years old and had JUST gotten James, like, maybe a day earlier, and I remember bawling my eyes out because my mom was making me return it… what a throwback. 😂
That Edward crane explanation ... actually makes a fair bit of sense.
Every chance that crane derailment was Edward's first real accident in many years.
couple of minor corrections, and a interesting note.
Wisbech is pronounced Wis Beach. Its on the Norfolk/Cambridgeshire border in the Fens, and lays on the A47 road between Kings Lynn and Peterborough, roughly North of March. The Wisbech and upwell tramway is also where the full size Mavis worked. These two types of engines also worked on the (Great) Yarmouth harbour railway, and the Ipswich Harbour railways. Audry was involved in a (now dormant) project at the Nene Valley Railway to build a fill size look alike of Toby based around a Cockerill steam tram.
When the original Thomas Stories were written, the national school leaving age in the UK for a state school was 14. Prior to 1918 is was only 12. This was increased to 15 in 1944, to 16 in 1972, 17 in 2013, and 18 in 2015, So Sir Topham Hatt wasn't a school dropout. Boys started their aprentaships at 14 prior to WW2, which is what he would have been if at Swindon works on the GWR.
When the Rev. W Audry wrote the stories, £50 was quite a lot of money. Four little engines was written in 1955. Today it would be £1,341.53 Scrap metal prices in 1955 were still controlled by the UK government, and were limited to £1 12s 5d (£1.64p) per ton. Considering these little locos only weight around 10 tons, £25 each was well over scrap price. Audry was also heavily involved in the Talyllyn railway.
Most of Rev W Audry's stories were based on true events. Saved from scrap for instance was based on the Teddy Boston saving his Foster Traction engine, alnough in the the illustrations and the TVS this was modelled on a Garrett No. 4 steam tractor.
Also I got 46 (kinda and 1/2 because I knew that Sharon Miller became voice director but not the Queen in The Royal Engine.) Congrats on getting your first sponsorship! That must be a huge achievement.
Yeah, it's pretty surreal. 46 is pretty good too!
Thanks! Well now I know 55 more facts!
12:45 Bonus fact despite this connection between Sodor and Barrow-in-Furness they have a professional sports team called Barrow FC which the Awdry's, Britt Allcroft, Hit or Mattel never have sponsored this team. Despite having a blue, and white home kit
This was so awesome! So much research went into this one! You did such a great job here! I know nobody cares, but I roughly knew 50 of these
29:13 the tugs models aren’t lost they have an exhibit at Midland Railway in Ripley
They were on display at the GCR in Leicestershire. Some props and models (notably Top Hat) are still missing.
14:04 oh so gwr Studios wasn’t lying
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1:28 Believe it or not, there was an official Take N’ Play toy based on that video called “Stanley in Space”.
I loved Thomas & The Magic Railroad! My parents took me to see it in theaters 3 times
12:49 #31 I remember distinctly having to return all my red Wooden Railway engines (ex. James) at the age of 4, because my mom read about the recall and didn’t want me to get lead poisoning. I cried for a long time after that.
Actually, we do know what Bertram’s Tank Engine design would’ve looked like. The original wooden train for Bertram was based off what he would originally look like.
As a note on the Tugs models being lost, they weren't lost until after the Mitton's death in 2008. They were kept in a private locker at Shepperton. Most likely, it would have been a little too expensive to shoot that, with too little payoff since most fans probably wouldn't have recognized them, especially since the show had been over for 10 years at this point.
James's and Percy's voice actors in TATMR are both voice actors in the anime Sailor Moon
In Italy Thomas The Tank Engine is the oldest cartoon and third still-running show to this day.
I'm glad they didn't make a season 12 style Hero of the Rails, because it would be a horror movie.
12:00 Actually, Edward was hit by Big Mickey, another crane in Breaden Dock without face until season 21. He used to be a Tugs characters. He started being a set since season 3.
In relation to No.88:
Now hear me out, Diesel 10 with a German accent. It actually makes sense if you think about it. He's a class 42/43 Warship. The Warships were based on a German diesel-hydraulic, the DB Class V 200.
24:05 WildNorWester actually remade this in a modded Train Simulator I think it was, and it had 4 parts. Watched it myself, and the plot is amazingly great.
I think I need a therapist as I knew most of these facts already. Also, Blue Mountain Mystery was originally going to be called "The Runaway Engine".
I don’t understand why it was gonna be called that
@@tudorbrancuturcu5996 probably because Luke tried to runaway?
@@tudorbrancuturcu5996I think it was because Luke was trying to be a runaway. However, I much prefer the final title.
3:40 you missed out Michael Angellis as the narrator for most of Thomas series in the UK
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1. Oh My God you have a sponsor now?! Dude congratulations!
2. I knew 64/101 facts. Meaning I’m a hardcore fan yessss!
3. Another thing you left out about Webber was that The Railway Series went on to serve as the inspiration for one of his musicals, Starlight Express.
4. Actually Cynic, All Engines Go isn’t Season 25, it’s a different show altogether.
5. Well, I dislike the HiT Era but I personally feel S9 is the best of that era :)
6. It’s also worth mentioning that there was a short film where Thomas crossed over with a Japanese kids show.
7. You remembered to link Luke Ryan’s video!
8. I don’t think Vinnie is an antagonist. Diesel in BMM would be a more suitable choice.
9. Actually, they thought Keith Scott was too scary for kids. The Russian accent, they thought was too offensive.
10. Yeah, even Olivia Colman and Jamie Campbell-Bower were in SLotLT
11. I really love how Cranky is such an essential character to the show at this point.
12. Actually Cynic, Tale of the Brave also had a different original title. You should look it up.
I was a HUGE train kid when I was younger, so to figure out that Thomas was a pretty huge part of Tom Hanks's warms my heart, since he played basically every character in The Polar Express
For me I’ve always loved Thomas and the Magic Railroad despite its flaws. It might just be pure nostalgia but I’ve watched it like a million times
and correction for 44, Henry has appeared on Thomas's Branchline in at 3:40 in the episode "Coal" the bridge he goes under is part of the loop line, which doubles as Thomas's Branchline before Elsbridge
Fact 102: Terence was nicknamed "Drac the Trac" during Season 1's production (Why is that nickname so fucking hilarious?)
I noticed 4 wrong facts.
03:00: Number 6; Series 8 actually featured a new character, and that was Kuffy the Clown, which in fact was Mr. Bubbles. And Series 15 was the series that didn't feature any new characters, outside of minor characters.
08:20: Number 21; there aren't 5 Rev. W. Awdry books, that's about The Skarloey Railway, because Duke the Lost Engine is about the Mid Sodor Railway, and not the Skarloey Railway, so 19 of those books is about The North Western Railway, 4 of them is about The Skarloey Railway, and there are 3 books that neither is about The North Western Railway or The Skarloey Railway, and those are 1 about The Culdee Fell Railway, 1 about The Arlesdale Railway and 1 about The Mid Sodor Railway.
19:20: Number 51; Skarloey was not the first engine to arrive on Sodor, instead it was the Sodor and Mainland engines (Neil and his brothers) who arrived around 1856, and Skarloey arrived in 1865, which means that Skarloey didn't arrive in 1806, or over 100 years prior to the release of The Railway Series.
24:03: Number 65; Barry the Rescue Engine was written by Christopher Awdry, not Wilbert Awdry, and the 27th Railway Series Book was always going to be titled Really Useful Engines, not Barry the Rescue Engine.
A full 37 minutes of Thomas cynic. Christmas came really early didn't it.
28:56 Well the tugs prop models were damaged and it explains why big mickey looks abit different
61(ish)/ 101
Some facts I half knew, so I didn't include them when I counted. Including those, I would probably get around 70.
A few things:
-HOTR did actually have a model series logo used on early trackmaster packaging
-Splode in CAE doesn't really make sense, as they are just arry and bert repainted. However in this shot, arry has a small purple patch on him th-cam.com/video/gjKalKJeqUo/w-d-xo.html
-HOTR and TGD may have originally been 1 movie, look at the similarities:
Leader of the Track and Hero of the rails seem like similar titles, stanley originally had a cut main role in HOTR, both movies involve thomas finding something old and having it restored.
-The DOTD darker cut: I have a theory as to what it may have been about. In one scene, Diesel 10 orders den and dart to push thomas to the back shed. Soon afterwards, the dieselworks catches fire because diesel 10 accidently made sparks with his claw. But why though? It's never explained. However I think that in the original cut, Diesel 10 DELIBERATLY set fire to the Dieselworks, and told den and dart to push thomas to the back shed to make sure he cannot escape and dies in the fire.
Wow, now I can see why it may have been considered dark.
The thing in this video that shocked me the most is that Thomas was a part of Jimmy friggin Carter’s life