DT bolters sound and feel so good, I'm so glad their statline is getting a little beefer to match. Now SM2 bolters.... That's another story. They feel less punchy than most shooter's regular rifles lol
yeah the sm2 bolter feels like firing nerf guns , the guns look and sound good but the tamage is herendous , the bolter in darktide might have low ammo but im not using it for killing hordes anyway , its enough to delete 3-4 elites at a time, wish i could put a better scope on it without suing the attachments mod on nexus tough , it has so much dmg for the ranged enemies like gunners and snipers that it can act like a 50 cal sniper rifle
Hey Reginald! It's likely you aren't too far off on the aiming guess. Linear interpretation is probably having some play on the aim of the bolters, and indeed would not be a simple fix.
_～The Boltgun Slaps So Hard In 40K-Darktide～_ I like how my rounds actually feel like they're impacting enemies now as opposed to passing through them? Like before, you'd fire into a hoard and they'd all enter this weird kneeling animation where they seemingly became immune to bolter rounds briefly! 😆
I highly recommend Bolt pistol instead of Boltgun (personnal preference) on Veteran crit chance +weakspot damage. If you build it surgical + Puncture With Flak + mutant You kill everything that isnt an orgyn/boss with 1 shot headshot. So it snipes the same way as the bolter but cannot go for bursting fire but you are way more mobile, can pull it out in a pinch, reload ages faster.
@@Dayman98 I love that too, but the lack of mobility and time to pull it off, reload time is so slow I really have a hard time appreciating it which is fair, it has to have downsides and everyone has different preferences. I am just saying you can play they snipey part the same way but with its upsides and downsides compared to the boltgun :) The playstyle I love is efficiently killing specials/elites so the pullout time and reload has too much downtime, the lack of mobility prevents me from going where I want, dodging hordes, enemies etc. Which explains my preferences from the pistol counterpart, tho its really fun to magdump to kill bosses or spam into horde ill give you that lmao
When the new update dropped, I always wanted to like the Bolters but couldn't because the sway and recoil was too much for me. With the new update I had confidence it will be better and yes, I love the bolt pistol now. Definitely could be better but I'll take it
SM2 bolt weapons are a joke. I get that they want the game to be "hard" but making you feel like a weakling shooting pasta balls when you're supposed to be an Astartes is a bad feel. Spending 70% of ruthless games in a roll animation is pretty disrespectful to a 10 foot tall Primaris Space Marine too.
Huzzah! I was playing with the bolt pistol last night and it feels so much better. I really liked it pre patch in spite of its bugs, but now it's much more snappy and responsive. I also really appreciated the increased damage to infected and the addition of the cleave on the new train mission because there's all of those nice long hallways to shoot down.
Bolt pistol is actually usable on xbox now. I couldnt believe my eyes in the psykanium. Still dont know how to feel about the weapon but its cool. Now the bolter is one thing ive never really played with.
I'll try it out again today. It'll be hard to beat out my revolver though. If revolver had a touch more ammo and armor pen then it wouldn't be close based on the last time I used bolter.
They NEED to give more spare ammo to the Boltgun and Ripper shotguns. You just run out of ammo WAYYY. TO. QUICKLY. I was really bummed out when they removed its 120 spare rounds and auto reloading with Vet pre skill tree update. Also really bummed how it takes MULTIPLE shots to open up a Bulwark shield. If they're gonna do that, they need to add a game mechanic where it can damage and break apart the Bulwark's shield depending on where you aim so you can slowly start to reveal the fleshy parts of him for you and your team. Make Zealots carry 120 rounds, while Vets should carry around 160-175 rounds. Show the Ripper shotguns and Stubber some love too. I honestly don't mind the reloading, BUT THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH AMMO. I understand this is a heavily melee-focused game, but Ripper shotguns need ATLEAST another 60-80 more rounds. I don't mind the reloading, but they def need more spare ammo. Stubbers (especially the slow shooting one) feels like I'm shooting Nerf MegaDarts at times. They NEED a DMG buff (especially the slow one). Like I said again, I understand this game is heavily melee focused, I have over 700hours of gameplay (400 of those were from Day 1 release-Skill tree update). I just want to have some Heretic-killing fun with my ranged toys from time to time and it get's SOO boring when you're kind of forced to only play melee most of the time because you're afraid you might waste all of your ammo in one fight.
Ammo and damage are not a problem at all. Only gun that does suffer from an ammo problem is the ripper but you can still make it work very well. Just make sure you’re not wasting ammo when you don’t need to and make sure your build is properly set up to be a range build. Also check the blessing on your gun and make sure they’re built for the role that you want them to be used for whether that be max damage, armor pen, horde clear, or special killer.
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I'd like to think someone at FS is paying attention to these good suggestions. Maybe they are!
Sure seems like it. A victory for me it seems.
The aim band aids are fine for the Bolter and I'm glad to once again be in agreement with my imaginary friend Reggio Ronaldo
you know if saber replaced all the bolter models with stubber models they would make sense.
Just like GW replaced all the heavy bolters with heavy stubbers on Primaris vehicles lmao
DT bolters sound and feel so good, I'm so glad their statline is getting a little beefer to match. Now SM2 bolters.... That's another story. They feel less punchy than most shooter's regular rifles lol
Yeah medium tirranids feels like a sponge for bolts
@@bobleman2792 Those are what they rely on for their invasions so make sense for them to be durable
yeah the sm2 bolter feels like firing nerf guns , the guns look and sound good but the tamage is herendous , the bolter in darktide might have low ammo but im not using it for killing hordes anyway , its enough to delete 3-4 elites at a time, wish i could put a better scope on it without suing the attachments mod on nexus tough , it has so much dmg for the ranged enemies like gunners and snipers that it can act like a 50 cal sniper rifle
SM2 bolters feel amazing vs gaunts. But that's about it, lol.
@@cykablyat3680 wow guys it's almost like there is a difference in game mechanics for 2 very different games. OH MY GOD.
Hey Reginald! It's likely you aren't too far off on the aiming guess. Linear interpretation is probably having some play on the aim of the bolters, and indeed would not be a simple fix.
Thanks for the confirmation of my guess!
Fatshark likes to take forever with updates, but they do a decent job fixing important things (eventually).
I've never been so happy about a balance patch. Love bolters in every form. And the gun punch pairs well with the execution blessing.
_～The Boltgun Slaps So Hard In 40K-Darktide～_
I like how my rounds actually feel like they're impacting enemies now as opposed to passing through them? Like before, you'd fire into a hoard and they'd all enter this weird kneeling animation where they seemingly became immune to bolter rounds briefly! 😆
I my have already max mastered the bolt pistol, it has quickly become my favorite weapon after the sway changes
Its a great gun now. The pen and limb change was huge too.
You know a weapon is good when people cry in the forums about it making the game too easy when there is a vet running it
Pistol bolter is better than sex.
I highly recommend Bolt pistol instead of Boltgun (personnal preference) on Veteran crit chance +weakspot damage.
If you build it surgical + Puncture
With
Flak + mutant
You kill everything that isnt an orgyn/boss with 1 shot headshot. So it snipes the same way as the bolter but cannot go for bursting fire but you are way more mobile, can pull it out in a pinch, reload ages faster.
Minmaxing is boring, playing for fun is better. Using a boltgun to wipe hordes in a 180 degree circumference is a lot more fun.
The new bolter really is viable for turning an entire horde into mincemeat, it's incredible.
@@Dayman98 I love that too, but the lack of mobility and time to pull it off, reload time is so slow I really have a hard time appreciating it which is fair, it has to have downsides and everyone has different preferences. I am just saying you can play they snipey part the same way but with its upsides and downsides compared to the boltgun :)
The playstyle I love is efficiently killing specials/elites so the pullout time and reload has too much downtime, the lack of mobility prevents me from going where I want, dodging hordes, enemies etc. Which explains my preferences from the pistol counterpart, tho its really fun to magdump to kill bosses or spam into horde ill give you that lmao
When the new update dropped, I always wanted to like the Bolters but couldn't because the sway and recoil was too much for me. With the new update I had confidence it will be better and yes, I love the bolt pistol now. Definitely could be better but I'll take it
Hell yeah I've been using the bolter almost exclusively since the patch. It's a lot of fun
Fuck yeah.
W, my fav gun is back baybeee, nothing feels as chunky
Wish there weas more bolt gun marks
Bolter time 😎
Fatshark is watching, listening...
wait, since when were bolters full auto and not burst?
How long have I been gone?
They have always been full auto, minimum fire from hip is 2 shots.
@@Reginald-sc9tk ive lost my mind then.
nice
SM2 bolt weapons are a joke. I get that they want the game to be "hard" but making you feel like a weakling shooting pasta balls when you're supposed to be an Astartes is a bad feel. Spending 70% of ruthless games in a roll animation is pretty disrespectful to a 10 foot tall Primaris Space Marine too.
Huzzah! I was playing with the bolt pistol last night and it feels so much better. I really liked it pre patch in spite of its bugs, but now it's much more snappy and responsive. I also really appreciated the increased damage to infected and the addition of the cleave on the new train mission because there's all of those nice long hallways to shoot down.
Bolt pistol is actually usable on xbox now. I couldnt believe my eyes in the psykanium. Still dont know how to feel about the weapon but its cool. Now the bolter is one thing ive never really played with.
I'll try it out again today. It'll be hard to beat out my revolver though. If revolver had a touch more ammo and armor pen then it wouldn't be close based on the last time I used bolter.
The statement about the bolters in sm2 couldn't be more real 💀💀💀
Btw reggie, you got a discord or smth?
Bolt pistol feels amazing now
reginaldo
I am here
W patch overall
nice to see it get buffed, maybe used it once before. Its gonna take a lot though to get me away from revolver though...
They NEED to give more spare ammo to the Boltgun and Ripper shotguns. You just run out of ammo WAYYY. TO. QUICKLY. I was really bummed out when they removed its 120 spare rounds and auto reloading with Vet pre skill tree update. Also really bummed how it takes MULTIPLE shots to open up a Bulwark shield. If they're gonna do that, they need to add a game mechanic where it can damage and break apart the Bulwark's shield depending on where you aim so you can slowly start to reveal the fleshy parts of him for you and your team. Make Zealots carry 120 rounds, while Vets should carry around 160-175 rounds.
Show the Ripper shotguns and Stubber some love too. I honestly don't mind the reloading, BUT THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH AMMO. I understand this is a heavily melee-focused game, but Ripper shotguns need ATLEAST another 60-80 more rounds. I don't mind the reloading, but they def need more spare ammo.
Stubbers (especially the slow shooting one) feels like I'm shooting Nerf MegaDarts at times. They NEED a DMG buff (especially the slow one).
Like I said again, I understand this game is heavily melee focused, I have over 700hours of gameplay (400 of those were from Day 1 release-Skill tree update). I just want to have some Heretic-killing fun with my ranged toys from time to time and it get's SOO boring when you're kind of forced to only play melee most of the time because you're afraid you might waste all of your ammo in one fight.
Ammo and damage are not a problem at all. Only gun that does suffer from an ammo problem is the ripper but you can still make it work very well. Just make sure you’re not wasting ammo when you don’t need to and make sure your build is properly set up to be a range build. Also check the blessing on your gun and make sure they’re built for the role that you want them to be used for whether that be max damage, armor pen, horde clear, or special killer.