"What is art?" As a professional artist, and gallery owner representing several regional artists, I was guilt ridden because I could not answer that question. I spent half a lifetime trying to figure it out… only to discover the answer is sublimely simple. My friend, the wife of my college art professor, had stopped in to visit me at my gallery and I shared with her my dilemma. With one simple sentence she opened my eyes... “Art is the expression of human experience...” (note the word "human"). In that moment I realized that art is not an object, it is a feeling… to be expressed in whatever shape, form, or fashion, the artist chooses. You summed this up quite well today, Peter, going on to lend credence to my own misgivings about AI generated "content". Thank you for all you share and, today, for being so on point!
Peter Combs for president, please make the insanity stop sir! This vile and hideous decimation of one of the few uplifting and inspiring parts of life left to us and the utter assassination of human creativity, craft and the appreciation of finer things must stop before we all lose our souls worshiping the cash, which is nothing more than an ephemeral and vapid means to an end. SOS!!!
Photographs were once considered not art The camera was seen as a tool, and many felt that photographs visually lacked the "artist's hand," an essential factor in calling something "art." The Photo-Secession movement, founded by Alfred Stieglitz in 1902, aimed to change this perception. This computer-generated images AI generated images is just another movement in the field of art get used to it.
Thank you Peter! Thank you for being a truth teller and a lover of real art, art that is the expression of the human soul. This Botto-lotto is simply an art-merchandized version of the emperor's new clothes--there aint no art there, no matter how much it is spun by Sotheby's or anyone else.
Hi Peter. Two words on your video: quite so. 'Botto' seems to be nothing more and nothing less than a cynical, money-making exercise. Did I notice that Christies were at it too? Flushed with their digital success here, Sotheby's should seriously consider exploiting the potential of other art forms for filling their coffers. How about drama? They could write a ChatGPT play. They could call it 'Waiting for Botto'. In this play, the absent hero, Botto, never arrives, leaving the rest of the forlorn cast hanging around in vain (hardly surprising, given that in actuality, did they but take a reality check, he's simply a bunch of circuitry).
What I find even more puzzling is the fact that potential buyers do not realize the obvious implication - which is that unlike the uniqueness of an artist (that lends to the value of his/her creations) there is a Botto 2, Botto 3, Botto n+1 around every corner with a computer on it. Seriously... 🙄
Sotheby's and other have never been about art so much as a money making business off the backs of artists. They do not, have never, produced anything at all but have thrived on the art market by convincing artists and collectors/buyers that they are, somehow, our greatest and indispensable art purveyors.
Visual gibberish searching for suckers. (Insult to injury: Looks like someone's first failed attempt using an AI art generator tool.) Thank you for your illuminations - as always.
It’s total bullshit. I personally know artists who deserve to be famous and wealthy whilst alive, so people who buy art, please please please don’t buy this garbage. Anyone with the software can make that crapola.
There is art, there ibad art and then there is this! The images have so assualted my aesthetic sensitivities that I have retreated to my Japanoise saloon to sip fine tea in an Arita cup and contemplate a fine Edo bronze. I may never come back out. Ha! This is beyond a scam but it is a subset of a bigger scam. Couldn't agree more wuth your comments.
They've obviously never watched Bladerunner or maybe they have. They're are many out there in the world with more money than sense or those with money and wish to create false value in things of no value so they can invest and make more money. It's the achilles heel of the art world.
The humanity, from the W3stern perspective is dying slowly on everything, is dying because of too much reliance on computers. The questions remain, why humans even should exist. Well picked up topic dear Peter. Thank you for raising the issue.
Well said, art is the mean for humans to express feeling and emotion. We cannot imagine a civilisation without art, art enrich human experience and make humans closer to nature, sciences and technologies do not regardless of its material benefits. A work of art enrich the world of humans, true artists are treasures in a world producing mountains of rubbishes.and destruction. A good art work made by a good artist has a value which cannot be measured in money terms. It is certain that the art world has its merchants and wheeler dealers not to say carpet dealers who put a price on an art work transforming it into a piece of commodity, nevertheless this doesn't means that a good art work is conceived as a commodity by the artist, if it is so then the artist will produce at best a decorative piece of art and at worst a mediocre piece of garbage with no value to humanity.
This is not a new thing. I remember in the 90s and early 2000s Sotheby's having specialized sales for animation art, model trains, toys and anything else that could generate revenue. Watches have been auctioned for at least 30 years. The big auction houses have always been around to maximize their own profits. I see nothing unusual in the collecting categories they have now. People want to spend the money on certain things and Sotheby's fills the need. It is more than likely most of these categories will be replaced by other newer categories in a few years.
Good Heavens! This Botto 'chap' has it made; group AND solo exhibitions; selling paintings to the highest bidder! Now, I wonder, is 'he' considered an amateur or a professional? Rock bottom humanity!
If someone showed me a piece of AI art on their wall and said they paid $144,000 for it....I would laugh and laugh and laugh. Then I would laugh some more.
As someone who works in the AI domain, segmenting the AI's generated images to "periods" is technically feasible but funny to the point of absurd - you just provide a shared preprompt for the various prompts for generating the images in the "period". It's shocking that these sell at all as the supply should be infinite - to the point that they probably used an open source model that you can download yourself and give the same prompts to...
Peter, you are absolutely correct! This is worthless pdf file junk! .....thank you for bringing this to my attention ..... real tragedy is that this will eventually be normalized....a very sad comment on our times...i do not blame Sotheby's as much as i blame those ignorent enough to buy this.
Hermes luxury bags, like any other fashion worn by a person that evokes any response from another human being, whether "negative" or "positive", is ART. Fashion is ART!Any AI creation that evokes a feeling, when gazed upon by a human being, is ART, as well. Is synthesized music real music and art that evokes emotion, or just sound? Photographs are created by machines that are simply "clicked" by humans, so does the resulting photographs be considered ART??? Can nature (not the human mind) generate (through wind, rain, heat, etc) beautiful creations that can move a human being, be ART, or just an artifact? Human beings are so greedy in what they create, and think only human beings are capable of creations that can evoke emotions in another human being. So sad. Can animals create art? Are we so selfish to think that humans are the only ones who can create things that evoke feelings in another human, by simply gazing into that CREATED/GENERATED object? Art is whatever one says is art, just as Pain is whatever one perceived pain to be. Kudos to those who have enough sense to purchase the "ART" that gives pleasure, or any other meaning, in their lives.
I am reminded in a way of the reception/reactions Marcel Duchamp probably initially recieved for his 'found objects' assembelages. "How can that be art?" and "That can't be art!" Years ago a friend I had not seen in a long while showed me a finished piece she had created (for a college course) a simple minimalist sketch with a couple of brush strokes of rain like watercolor, a piece of plastic sushi grass, and a cut swatch of what looked like kimono fabric affixed to some pebbled good quality sketch/watercolor paper with torn edges. It evoked Japan or asian sensibilities in a sort of playful non specific way. I told her I thought it was a pretty decent piece of work. She said, "no it's just crafty and clever". Are we dealing with something similar here? Remember, when this human initiated and tasked AI creates images, it does so based on the cumulative archives of all the art which humans have created as it's source materials, or points of departure, and it is, trying to satisfy or appeal to known human tastes or sensibilities within a specific set of parameters established by a 'human' programmer. Is it derivitive? Yes. More 'crafty and clever' than inspired? Probably. But I have also seen numerous other AI produced images that are pretty spectacular, and much more refined (artistically and thematically) and warmer, than the brief few you have shown in this video (and if someone told you it was done by a human you would believe them too). It was very sobering because in reality the images created are a distillation of artistic subjects and techniques, and forms and compositional ideas numbering in the hundred of thousands or more likely, millions, and over many millenia/every epoch. Seascapes, landscapes, portraits, still lifes, city scenes, pointillism, realism, archaic art, primitive art, abstract, hyperrealism, just on and on. And of course in virtually every piece digitally referenced or sampled to have created this new image, a human artist, us human artists are in there! The whole process does actually involve human hands and some humans creativity on multiple levels, we humans created all the art being referenced, assigned it (the computer or AI) the specific task it's attempting to satisfy, and it was the mind of mankind that designed and created the very machinery doing the referencing/interpreting, creating! What about that whole idea of beauty/art being in the eyes of the beholder, or consumer, this phrase being in reference to the viewer or buyer of these images which you are denying have any standing as being 'ART' ? I am not directly agreeing or disagreeing with you, but I am saying, it's to easy to be quickly dismissive provided you don't bother to think about it or examine it too deeply, and not as easy when you really consider some of the points I've raised. Do I like what the auction houses are doing? I don't particularly care. I look at something and decide whether it has artistic merit or does not. Tends not to be a decision I task anybody else to do for me.
Yes ,bur art gets controled to by a few old dudes especially here in the state, were even if you find a master piece it will not get reconized because if is not in. The hands of this group of old dudes that control the matket your items is worth less than a candy bar in the wrong hands . Yes in my country is is called corruption at a higher level,,,and have nothing to do with art collecting or fair art evaluation or recognition,,,,,Yes is as an ugly market as it can be ,especially here in the USA.. a bunch of old farts controling all the markets that it is been passed down through generations.... They always make the excuses of providence to be able to sale,,,Of course the purpose is to know from what families of thiefs are this pieces coming from so they can be accepted for auction, Because i dont believe Not all this families owning imperial chinese art were adquired all legally and in an honest way throughout the centuries, a lot of art contraband from china had happened for many years geting in the hands of this families that the ones mostly alowed to sale on big galleries and passing the balls throughout generations......When in the case that someone studied the art and with merit and effort has found a masterpiece ,but since does not belong to the circle of this old farts ,it will never gets a fair chance on a major gallery with out getting discouraged or a devaluation of your objets. So you can sell it onlinefor a few bucks so this same owls can get the hands on it....yes sadly this market is rotten and made ugly for those reasons..
Who should have more merit to sale.on big galleries, The Joe smoke that studied the art and was able to really find an important piece in a random place through efforts and knowlege , or the old farts ,that have it all easy getting the ball passed down from a family that probably adquured this items by contraband or unfair business practice? Who reallyshould have more merits to sale ?...
In my opinion, all the craps that belong to the category of "contemporary and modern art", including but not limited to Picasso's paintings and porcelain vases, are craps, period
I also think this sale is dumb, but couldn't a similar argument be made about photography as art? Photographs are the products of a recording machine rather than human skill in imagining something, yet photographs have long been sold as art.
If you have the raw talent, ability, and experienced the difficulties and hardships of taking meaningful photos, then spent countless hundreds of hours over many years in a darkroom using toxic chemical and breathing their fumes to control, tone and print these photographs, perhaps you might see how ridiculously ignorant your opinion of photography is
@@deltasquared7777 The fact remains that photographs only record what is put in front of them. It may be difficult and involve lot of unpleasant work to get the photograph to turn out correctly, but the photograph is fundamentally just a copied image of something already existing in nature. It is not creative in the way Peter talked about it the video. The ai art sale is bad because the paintings being sold are ugly and the descriptions are dishonest, not because the paintings were created by a machine.
@@deltasquared7777 Well said, deltasquared7777... For those artists who don't paint, sculpt clay, or cast bronze, the use of a camera to capture images of real life around us is perfectly suitable as a medium of expression. Even today with digital imaging and the many ways that computers can assist as a tool in the artist/photographer's renderings of an image, it is the artist that captured the image, in whatever light and shadows existed at the time the photo was taken, and most important, the image captured and its composition by a human among us, capturing a moment in time, is just as artful as any other medium. It might seem 'quick and easy' to those who don't fully understand the medium, but Ansel Adams and so many other famous photographers have made photography a medium that is just as well respected as painting oil on canvas or watercolors on silk. With Ansel Adams, the photograph itself took less than a second to take. The climb into the mountains over days, maybe weeks, together with the patience to wait for the sun to rise or fall into a perfect alignment to present the dazzling shadows that might only be captured in his mind's eye within a short window of time, to be shared and admired with all is as 'artful' as any other artist's expression in any other medium. Botto is not art. It is a computer-generated rendering of art made by humans, interpreted, copied and re-generated by AI machines. True 'art' captures human emotions and taps into cultural, religious, sectarian and non-sectarian meaning to 'people'. AI and Botto are not 'people' and as such, they are simply incapable of capturing the same.
Well said @deltasquared7777 For those artists who do not paint, sculpt clay, or cast bronze, the use of a camera is a perfectly suitable medium for expression. It might have only taken Ansel Adams less than a second to click a photograph on his camera, but the hike into the mountains that might have taken days or weeks, together with the patience to wait with the subject to be captured, for the sun to rise or fall into perfect alignment to produce the dazzling shadows that might last only a few minutes, before taking the photo is as artful and creative as any other artists' methods or mediums.
"What is art?" As a professional artist, and gallery owner representing several regional artists, I was guilt ridden because I could not answer that question. I spent half a lifetime trying to figure it out… only to discover the answer is sublimely simple. My friend, the wife of my college art professor, had stopped in to visit me at my gallery and I shared with her my dilemma. With one simple sentence she opened my eyes... “Art is the expression of human experience...” (note the word "human"). In that moment I realized that art is not an object, it is a feeling… to be expressed in whatever shape, form, or fashion, the artist chooses. You summed this up quite well today, Peter, going on to lend credence to my own misgivings about AI generated "content". Thank you for all you share and, today, for being so on point!
Hello can I conect with you throtext or email?
The world has entered a era of lies for the sake of only lying.
Please let me disembark.
Totally agree. Thank you!
Completely agree and I've shared this around. Very well articulated. Thank you.
Peter Combs for president, please make the insanity stop sir! This vile and hideous decimation of one of the few uplifting and inspiring parts of life left to us and the utter assassination of human creativity, craft and the appreciation of finer things must stop before we all lose our souls worshiping the cash, which is nothing more than an ephemeral and vapid means to an end. SOS!!!
Photographs were once considered not art
The camera was seen as a tool, and many felt that photographs visually lacked the "artist's hand," an essential factor in calling something "art." The Photo-Secession movement, founded by Alfred Stieglitz in 1902, aimed to change this perception.
This computer-generated images AI generated images is just another movement in the field of art get used to it.
I have never heard of this till now. I am appalled... This is just generated garbage.
Absolute rubbish what are these auctions doing!!!?
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Thank you Peter! Thank you for being a truth teller and a lover of real art, art that is the expression of the human soul. This Botto-lotto is simply an art-merchandized version of the emperor's new clothes--there aint no art there, no matter how much it is spun by Sotheby's or anyone else.
For the last 4 years I've been doing my artwork on napkins And I get some good reviews on them
I have also been generating AI images.
Thanks for yelling, "The Emperor wears no clothes!"
Fools and their money are soon parted.
Hi Peter. Two words on your video: quite so. 'Botto' seems to be nothing more and nothing less than a cynical, money-making exercise. Did I notice that Christies were at it too? Flushed with their digital success here, Sotheby's should seriously consider exploiting the potential of other art forms for filling their coffers. How about drama? They could write a ChatGPT play. They could call it 'Waiting for Botto'. In this play, the absent hero, Botto, never arrives, leaving the rest of the forlorn cast hanging around in vain (hardly surprising, given that in actuality, did they but take a reality check, he's simply a bunch of circuitry).
What I find even more puzzling is the fact that potential buyers do not realize the obvious implication - which is that unlike the uniqueness of an artist (that lends to the value of his/her creations) there is a Botto 2, Botto 3, Botto n+1 around every corner with a computer on it. Seriously... 🙄
Sotheby's and other have never been about art so much as a money making business off the backs of artists. They do not, have never, produced anything at all but have thrived on the art market by convincing artists and collectors/buyers that they are, somehow, our greatest and indispensable art purveyors.
I guess art has been unburdened from what has been!
😂 scrolled down to see if someone else caught that! 👍🏻
Completely with you. It’s bunk and will go the way of NFTs.
Some people made a lot of money out of NFTs before it dried up. Classic pyramid scheme, like the airplane game. Don't be the last one in.
That was so interesting, thank you. I learn so much from you. Respect.
Visual gibberish searching for suckers. (Insult to injury: Looks like someone's first failed attempt using an AI art generator tool.) Thank you for your illuminations - as always.
It’s total bullshit. I personally know artists who deserve to be famous and wealthy whilst alive, so people who buy art, please please please don’t buy this garbage. Anyone with the software can make that crapola.
There is art, there ibad art and then there is this! The images have so assualted my aesthetic sensitivities that I have retreated to my Japanoise saloon to sip fine tea in an Arita cup and contemplate a fine Edo bronze. I may never come back out. Ha! This is beyond a scam but it is a subset of a bigger scam. Couldn't agree more wuth your comments.
I completely agree with you, without the human touch it is not art, simple as that.
Peter, love you reading the "gallery speak" !
There’s a sucker born every minute” - P.T. Barnum
as the supposedly modern contemporary art this is thr new scam thanks for sharing !
Thank you. Amazing.
Thank you so much, Sir!
They've obviously never watched Bladerunner or maybe they have. They're are many out there in the world with more money than sense or those with money and wish to create false value in things of no value so they can invest and make more money. It's the achilles heel of the art world.
Thanks for the heads up!
A banana duct tape to a wall that blew my mind now the latest price It got is over $6 million dollars
The humanity, from the W3stern perspective is dying slowly on everything, is dying because of too much reliance on computers. The questions remain, why humans even should exist. Well picked up topic dear Peter. Thank you for raising the issue.
Really it’s taking money from human artists pockets.
Sad.
Well said, art is the mean for humans to express feeling and emotion. We cannot imagine a civilisation without art, art enrich human experience and make humans closer to nature, sciences and technologies do not regardless of its material benefits. A work of art enrich the world of humans, true artists are treasures in a world producing mountains of rubbishes.and destruction. A good art work made by a good artist has a value which cannot be measured in money terms. It is certain that the art world has its merchants and wheeler dealers not to say carpet dealers who put a price on an art work transforming it into a piece of commodity, nevertheless this doesn't means that a good art work is conceived as a commodity by the artist, if it is so then the artist will produce at best a decorative piece of art and at worst a mediocre piece of garbage with no value to humanity.
Can you pay with computer generated cash?
This is not a new thing. I remember in the 90s and early 2000s Sotheby's having specialized sales for animation art, model trains, toys and anything else that could generate revenue. Watches have been auctioned for at least 30 years. The big auction houses have always been around to maximize their own profits. I see nothing unusual in the collecting categories they have now. People want to spend the money on certain things and Sotheby's fills the need. It is more than likely most of these categories will be replaced by other newer categories in a few years.
Good Heavens! This Botto 'chap' has it made; group AND solo exhibitions; selling paintings to the highest bidder! Now, I wonder, is 'he' considered an amateur or a professional? Rock bottom humanity!
If someone showed me a piece of AI art on their wall and said they paid $144,000 for it....I would laugh and laugh and laugh. Then I would laugh some more.
Hear! hear!
As someone who works in the AI domain, segmenting the AI's generated images to "periods" is technically feasible but funny to the point of absurd - you just provide a shared preprompt for the various prompts for generating the images in the "period".
It's shocking that these sell at all as the supply should be infinite - to the point that they probably used an open source model that you can download yourself and give the same prompts to...
Plus it’s true, about ‘one being born very second." Look at the election.
Peter, you are absolutely correct! This is worthless pdf file junk! .....thank you for bringing this to my attention ..... real tragedy is that this will eventually be normalized....a very sad comment on our times...i do not blame Sotheby's as much as i blame those ignorent enough to buy this.
Hermes luxury bags, like any other fashion worn by a person that evokes any response from another human being, whether "negative" or "positive", is ART. Fashion is ART!Any AI creation that evokes a feeling, when gazed upon by a human being, is ART, as well. Is synthesized music real music and art that evokes emotion, or just sound? Photographs are created by machines that are simply "clicked" by humans, so does the resulting photographs be considered ART??? Can nature (not the human mind) generate (through wind, rain, heat, etc) beautiful creations that can move a human being, be ART, or just an artifact? Human beings are so greedy in what they create, and think only human beings are capable of creations that can evoke emotions in another human being. So sad. Can animals create art? Are we so selfish to think that humans are the only ones who can create things that evoke feelings in another human, by simply gazing into that CREATED/GENERATED object? Art is whatever one says is art, just as Pain is whatever one perceived pain to be. Kudos to those who have enough sense to purchase the "ART" that gives pleasure, or any other meaning, in their lives.
You can type in some text, generate one yourself. It's a limitless resource of new generated images.... which means it asymptotes to zero value
All sold to emperors with no clothes perhaps?
NFT’s again cos those tanked
Was there one recently that sold for over 1 millon ?
Interesting!
With Trump back in office, it's no surprise stupidity also has taken the upperhand in the art dealers' world. Thanks for highlighting this PC❤
Actually, these pieces were sold well before the election. It's not political, it's just ilustrative of the ignorance of some of todays art consumers.
I love it when tech bros get into other fields and ruin them.
Our time : neurotic, aggressiv, ugly art! It is art, but nearly at the worst level. Watch, and beware of....
Who (or what) is consigning these things. The money is going somewhere ...
Sotheby's and their "Partners" it seems Own the art..
@lloovvaallee quite a method for money launder
I am reminded in a way of the reception/reactions Marcel Duchamp probably initially recieved for his 'found objects' assembelages. "How can that be art?" and "That can't be art!" Years ago a friend I had not seen in a long while showed me a finished piece she had created (for a college course) a simple minimalist sketch with a couple of brush strokes of rain like watercolor, a piece of plastic sushi grass, and a cut swatch of what looked like kimono fabric affixed to some pebbled good quality sketch/watercolor paper with torn edges. It evoked Japan or asian sensibilities in a sort of playful non specific way. I told her I thought it was a pretty decent piece of work. She said, "no it's just crafty and clever". Are we dealing with something similar here? Remember, when this human initiated and tasked AI creates images, it does so based on the cumulative archives of all the art which humans have created as it's source materials, or points of departure, and it is, trying to satisfy or appeal to known human tastes or sensibilities within a specific set of parameters established by a 'human' programmer. Is it derivitive? Yes. More 'crafty and clever' than inspired? Probably. But I have also seen numerous other AI produced images that are pretty spectacular, and much more refined (artistically and thematically) and warmer, than the brief few you have shown in this video (and if someone told you it was done by a human you would believe them too). It was very sobering because in reality the images created are a distillation of artistic subjects and techniques, and forms and compositional ideas numbering in the hundred of thousands or more likely, millions, and over many millenia/every epoch. Seascapes, landscapes, portraits, still lifes, city scenes, pointillism, realism, archaic art, primitive art, abstract, hyperrealism, just on and on. And of course in virtually every piece digitally referenced or sampled to have created this new image, a human artist, us human artists are in there! The whole process does actually involve human hands and some humans creativity on multiple levels, we humans created all the art being referenced, assigned it (the computer or AI) the specific task it's attempting to satisfy, and it was the mind of mankind that designed and created the very machinery doing the referencing/interpreting, creating! What about that whole idea of beauty/art being in the eyes of the beholder, or consumer, this phrase being in reference to the viewer or buyer of these images which you are denying have any standing as being 'ART' ? I am not directly agreeing or disagreeing with you, but I am saying, it's to easy to be quickly dismissive provided you don't bother to think about it or examine it too deeply, and not as easy when you really consider some of the points I've raised. Do I like what the auction houses are doing? I don't particularly care. I look at something and decide whether it has artistic merit or does not. Tends not to be a decision I task anybody else to do for me.
Agree
Yes ,bur art gets controled to by a few old dudes especially here in the state, were even if you find a master piece it will not get reconized because if is not in. The hands of this group of old dudes that control the matket your items is worth less than a candy bar in the wrong hands . Yes in my country is is called corruption at a higher level,,,and have nothing to do with art collecting or fair art evaluation or recognition,,,,,Yes is as an ugly market as it can be ,especially here in the USA.. a bunch of old farts controling all the markets that it is been passed down through generations.... They always make the excuses of providence to be able to sale,,,Of course the purpose is to know from what families of thiefs are this pieces coming from so they can be accepted for auction, Because i dont believe Not all this families owning imperial chinese art were adquired all legally and in an honest way throughout the centuries, a lot of art contraband from china had happened for many years geting in the hands of this families that the ones mostly alowed to sale on big galleries and passing the balls throughout generations......When in the case that someone studied the art and with merit and effort has found a masterpiece ,but since does not belong to the circle of this old farts ,it will never gets a fair chance on a major gallery with out getting discouraged or a devaluation of your objets. So you can sell it onlinefor a few bucks so this same owls can get the hands on it....yes sadly this market is rotten and made ugly for those reasons..
Who should have more merit to sale.on big galleries, The Joe smoke that studied the art and was able to really find an important piece in a random place through efforts and knowlege , or the old farts ,that have it all easy getting the ball passed down from a family that probably adquured this items by contraband or unfair business practice? Who reallyshould have more merits to sale ?...
In my opinion, all the craps that belong to the category of "contemporary and modern art", including but not limited to Picasso's paintings and porcelain vases, are craps, period
@@jacobwei757 it was said he was an expert at marketing himself
fart not art
I also think this sale is dumb, but couldn't a similar argument be made about photography as art? Photographs are the products of a recording machine rather than human skill in imagining something, yet photographs have long been sold as art.
Good point but if you think of the camera as a tool of the artist, then it becomes art. Different than an automatically produced computer image.
If you have the raw talent, ability, and experienced the difficulties and hardships of taking meaningful photos, then spent countless hundreds of hours over many years in a darkroom using toxic chemical and breathing their fumes to control, tone and print these photographs, perhaps you might see how ridiculously ignorant your opinion of photography is
@@deltasquared7777 The fact remains that photographs only record what is put in front of them. It may be difficult and involve lot of unpleasant work to get the photograph to turn out correctly, but the photograph is fundamentally just a copied image of something already existing in nature. It is not creative in the way Peter talked about it the video. The ai art sale is bad because the paintings being sold are ugly and the descriptions are dishonest, not because the paintings were created by a machine.
@@deltasquared7777 Well said, deltasquared7777... For those artists who don't paint, sculpt clay, or cast bronze, the use of a camera to capture images of real life around us is perfectly suitable as a medium of expression. Even today with digital imaging and the many ways that computers can assist as a tool in the artist/photographer's renderings of an image, it is the artist that captured the image, in whatever light and shadows existed at the time the photo was taken, and most important, the image captured and its composition by a human among us, capturing a moment in time, is just as artful as any other medium. It might seem 'quick and easy' to those who don't fully understand the medium, but Ansel Adams and so many other famous photographers have made photography a medium that is just as well respected as painting oil on canvas or watercolors on silk. With Ansel Adams, the photograph itself took less than a second to take. The climb into the mountains over days, maybe weeks, together with the patience to wait for the sun to rise or fall into a perfect alignment to present the dazzling shadows that might only be captured in his mind's eye within a short window of time, to be shared and admired with all is as 'artful' as any other artist's expression in any other medium. Botto is not art. It is a computer-generated rendering of art made by humans, interpreted, copied and re-generated by AI machines. True 'art' captures human emotions and taps into cultural, religious, sectarian and non-sectarian meaning to 'people'. AI and Botto are not 'people' and as such, they are simply incapable of capturing the same.
Well said @deltasquared7777
For those artists who do not paint, sculpt clay, or cast bronze, the use of a camera is a perfectly suitable medium for expression. It might have only taken Ansel Adams less than a second to click a photograph on his camera, but the hike into the mountains that might have taken days or weeks, together with the patience to wait with the subject to be captured, for the sun to rise or fall into perfect alignment to produce the dazzling shadows that might last only a few minutes, before taking the photo is as artful and creative as any other artists' methods or mediums.
Your write a lode of crap Graham