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- The Supreme Court has concluded arguments over Donald Trump's claim he is entitled to broad immunity from federal prosecution for allegedly official acts while he was in the White House. Nancy Cordes anchored CBS News' special report on the arguments.
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Its not a matter of Biden and Trump anymore but the future of the country
The Supreme Court is IMHO, in a large part corrupt. The Conservative Supremes pretend to be ORIGINALISTS, HOWEVER, they are not unless it fits their whim. The Supreme Court Judges know DAMN WELL, that our Founding Fathers did not want a Unitary Presidency, they Did Not want a Monarchy. The settlers her were in a large part those who left England because of the English Monarchy and the Devine Rights of Kings and Queens. In no reasonable way can they construe the Presidency to be a position above the law.
Read the Federalist Papers, STOP BEING SHEEPLE!!!
Additionally, Trump's Acts were not within the outside orbit of his power or authority. The Executive Branch has no Authority WRT to Presidential Elections. Presidents are immune to Civil Suits while holding office, not Criminal Acts. Even further a past President is not covered by Civil or Criminal immunity for unofficial acts!
You are soo right 👍
100%
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Sincerely I've been seeing it that way for some time now .
Will someone please ask this guy why all the other presidents were able to fully function without immunity? Maybe it was because they didn't need it to stay out of prison?
Hmmmm, Mr. President Biden's behavior and that of His Administration, aspects, perhaps of Mr. President Obama make this Very Relevant.
Or maybe bc they were all guilty also, and it would have been a domino effect.
They did point that out later.
The Judges are sold out
Clinton should have been charged obama should have been arrested for drone strikes killing civilians??? Even GWB dirt on him from weapons of mass destruction that never existed period look at the facts and facts tell us they all used it
The Court took this appeal solely to delay the start of the trial. The arguments are patently absurd and baseless. It should have let the D.C. Circuit's decision stand.
Are you for real
I agree. It's extremely damaging to its reputation and, more importantly, to the authority of the lower courts!
So said you,
@@ShelbyRadar-hb7tj yes, so said I.
@ShelbyRadar
Yes! They _did_ say that!
Did you figure that out all by yourself? Wow!
Good for you, Shelby!
These right wing justices are disgraceful. Thomas and Alito in particular are lost in criminality themselves, how can they adjudicate?
Why is this even a question?
Agreed, your right it's not a question, but their sure trying to make it one
Because 45 is a spoiled toddler who refuses to admit his extensive wrongdoings, and his SC cronies are willing to help him continue to avoid consequences by dragging out the case.
I don't know why/how this is a question. But I believe in 2024, the discussion of this is just a waste of time and the taxpayers' dollars! The Justices seem to be asking good questions. I have already heard enough to respond "NO Presidential immunity! Hopefully SCOTUS will render the same decision as I did.
@@mateomelendez3733 I agree!
Can’t believe the court is actually hearing this.
They have debased themselves.
They were already debased. Three lied in their senate hearings, and Thomas is still there. Worst, most corrupt SCOTUS in my 73 years.
Entertaining it .
@@Devon1122 it’s entertainment for sure - more of a joke that the Supreme Court is promoting. Pathetic
So corrupt
Staging a coup "could be" an official act? Tuesday, November 5, 2024 will be a test of all U.S.citizens.
WRONG
@@SandraWeiss-jc6xzWhy is voting wrong?
@paigeprice4574
Because Fox "News" told her it was.
It's pathetic and would be laughable if it weren't tearing America apart at the seams.
Indeed it will be a test that the rest of the world, in addition to the responsible, intelligent majority of Americans, will be watching unfold with bated breath.
I hope Thomas was listening to discussion on bribery.
😂 😂
Thomas wasn’t involved with Burisma. Think Mr. 10% Big Guy.
I think we should review black and white marriages next
I agree ,but why would he care , he enjoys taking them
It's absurd that they're even considering this. Regardless of their decision, their corruption is undeniable.
In absolute agreement, this is beyond absurdity!
Exactly! How can they here such a case that has a chance of making trump a dictator!
I agree. They are setting a precedent for all future presidents when they shouldn’t have even heard it.
@Klock72 they have to hear it, and they have to abide by the law !
They are nowhere near corruption!
absolutely not, NO ONE is ABOVE the law. NO ONE..
most of us gubmint is
Donald trump is above the law. They are showing us that he is. 🤔
5th Avenue - Trump...
Make America Safe Again 🙏 VOTE TRUMP
Vote dems across the board, fund education and social support as a preventative measure to help the gullible.
This discussion should terrify anyone, regardless of Democrat or Republican. The precedent this could set is upsetting. At this point they’re basically just saying “should a president be allowed to manipulate the country’s system in order to permanently hold power”.
Did he JUST say “logically”, that’s like saying someone isn’t smart enough to understand he’s correct…
if this useless court deems a president immune, then biden can just jail trump as a national threat and ally of putin.
@@bek75621 1
Hi how is the nite going?
no
If this bs doesn't drive people to the polls in droves to vote against Frump, nothing will. Even MAGA folks should be terrified of what is happening.
If all the charges in the indictment are about non-official acts, which is the case, then why is the Supreme Court even getting involved in this matter?? Nobody is arguing that Trump was acting officially. The question of official vs. non-official doesn't even arise from the indictments!!! It's hard to see a legitimate legal question that made it necessary for SCOTUS to hear this case. It ends up serving only one purpose, and that is to delay the Jan. 6 case against Trump long enough to insure it won't be heard until after the election. Unforgivable.
Excellent point! Aside from steering the Constitution into very dangerous waters, most T.V. lawyers seem to believe that was the intent of taking the case.
The Truth will overcome. But you’re so right. That argument of public vs private acts was a complete waste of brain power to listen to. He didn’t do what a rational, responsible person would do.
No one, no one should have total immunity. Complete immunity would mean that the President is not answerable to anyone. That is not right. He is a public servant and is answerable to the American people.
That's a good things you are not SCOTUS, so what you think really dont count
NO one has it now. Do you even know what “Presidential immunity” involves? As it NOW stands, A President can NOT be prosecuted for OFFICIAL acts while in Office….However, he CAN be prosecuted for PRIVATE acts….
MSM = A great drug
@@Shineon83Yes, and they’re arguing to change it to complete immunity.
While I disagree, I think the argument is that Congress should hold a president liable. This, of course, is contrary to what the Senate claimed in choosing not to find the president guilty of the alleged charge of impeachment.
ONLY ON ELECTION DAY
There is simply no way this case can be decided for Trump without overthrowing the constitutional order of the United States.
Wrong again.
I've watched Trump ever since I saw him go with Vladimir Putin and not want have any interpretationof what Putin and he talked about but from the look of Putin's face it was like Trump gave America to Putin
@@pamelanesin6916 Yet he didn't. So, there's that.😁
@@pamelanesin6916That's a big jump in logic
@@cajunlogicdiy who you follow the propaganda Channel like Fox ?
I read many different sources of Free Press and I follow The Washington Post
Why corrupt Clarence Thomas is seated. His wife was a participany of June 6th.
To answer your question , he is seated because he is a Justice, in case you are uniform.
Now there’s a question. Of course they can’t prove he sides with his wife, she is persuasive- she’s been able to get elected to Congress
Hey Shelby - assume following the law. Thomas was found to have taken gifts ( not bribes but against the law) Different kinds of illusionary morality. Trump does it through his voice ad his perfection of sounding like Billy Graham while spouting whatever truths complimentary to him
You watch too much Fake News.
@@ShelbyRadar-hb7tjThomas should have recused himself!!! Your answer is absurd.
Why would a criminal ask for immunity if he never done nothing wrong?
exactly, he knows he is guilty
You are guilty Trump
Ask obiden when he gets prosecuted for treason
He has another criminal trial
Duh he’s being charged unlawfully figure it out.
Go watch cartoons maybe you will get them
Hey Roberts. Do you think the Supreme Court will survive once you give trump immunity to do as he wants?
Then Biden can do whatever he wants as well. That’ll scare all of them.
@@RR-qr8on Hey clueless, Biden has been doing whatever he wants, ignoring the constitution when it is useful to push his agenda that he can't get approved by congress.
How can Roberts not see the jeopardy? One ruling that goes against a next President Trump 5-4, with Roberts being the swing vote, boom! Roberts is corruptly impeached + removed, or worse.(Remember, Trump could legally BRIBE the Congress to impeach + remove.) After that, no decision goes against Trump. This is so obvious.
@@RR-qr8on❤❤
They will give Biden the right to take out selected federal judges too!
I’m sorry, but the whole time I’m just thinking, “dude, clear your fricken throat!”
Of course the orange menaces lawyer would sound like a demon
That demonic insult in The Exorcist springs to mind as an explanation.
Lol Lol 😆
@@plynch9145 sounds like that recorded voice stitched together from the future in 12 monkeys
I thought it was me....😂😂😂😂 I keep envisioning Froggy from the Lil Rascals.
He ought be ashamed of himself arguing for ABSOLUTE immunity.
Why would he arguing for immunity for the president when the THEY LEFT Europe because they hated aristocracy? 🤷🏻♀️
If this goes the way I think it will, then it's time for Biden to round up Seal Team 6.
It will go 8-1 against Trump. Possibly 9-0. Trump's argument is utterly baseless.
That's terrible, this is what MAGA wants. They say democrats are communists already, that would just prove it.
Biden is busy rounding up ice cream and pillows for his late night snack and nap time lol but ok…
@@markkozlowski3674 lmao 🤣 WOKE
If it goes Trump's way
I'm with you.
The amount of money being spent for someone whom is OBVIOUSLY guilty is disgusting
You are not the judge nor jury,your statement is inappropriate.
@@ShelbyRadar-hb7tj no one needs to be judge or jury, we all saw January 6th and tRUMP doesn’t deny he took national security documents. The hearings are a formality!!!
@@ShelbyRadar-hb7tj And yet you’re judging my statement- the irony of it all is comical. It’s folks like you whom have and continue to stay uneducated about simple facts regarding a narcissist conman that will just complain over and over er again and do nothing. That’s what the (R) party is currently doing. NOTHING.
@@ShelbyRadar-hb7tj NO its not. In fact, even Trumpers as you know he is but your confirmation bias won't let you admit it. If you really believe it, then you don't be mad if Biden were to lose, he just refuses to leave office. You won't mind will you?
@@ShelbyRadar-hb7tj Get over yourself.
Immunity should just be a medical term, not a judicial term.
Woman should be a female term, not a male term.
The biggest Chad move Biden could do is wait for the immunity and then refuse to give up the precidency 😂
No one is above the law you do a CRIME YOU THE TIME GOD IS GOOD ALL THE TIME AMEN
The Supreme Court better do the LEGAL thing, instead of the Trump thing. There will be fighting in the streets.
Are you making threats?
Do you even understand the boundaries of Presidential immunity? As the law NOW stands : A President can NOT be prosecuted for OFFICIAL acts. He/she CAN, however, be prosecuted for PERSONAL acts….So, what’s your issue?
There will be FAAFO-ing in the streets. Think it's a game.
This dude gotta quit chain smoking.
🤣 Seriously like wow!
It sounds like some coke voices as well.
The voice of evil.
😂
He clearly has a permanent physical condition which creates a raspy voice.
Judge Jackson is awsome!
KBJ is the new RBG
Very absurd the supreme court is hearing this. Justice thomas needs impeached
Amen.
Why? Because you want he thinks what you want about it?
Don't pick on judges. They voted them in to uphold the constitution and the law of the framers!
@@estherlamigueiro6217, what? Is that English?
This is the USA. People dont need to be impeached because of personal reasons, dislikes, or personalities, nor should you or anyone.
To make a distinction between a private and an official act suggests that the incumbent of the American presidency has the ability to periodically go on or off duty.. Rather, from the moment a president assumes office to the expiry of that appointment, the incumbent is never off duty. The official is not an hourly rated employee!
Wrong. The president does a lot of things that are not official. Running for re-election is one of them. If he does something criminally unlawful in pursuit of re-election, he is liable to criminal charges.
I cackled out loud at his silence after her asking “if a president orders the military to stage a coup?”
Your cackled, ?
Why are these justices arguing hypotheticals like Trump's attorney is arguing hypotheticals rather than this particular case in front of them? Because what other protection offered to a president is taking the matter to SCOTUS for interpretation!
This is about the ultimate credibility of the Supreme Court specifically and the US in general.
Okay, if SCOTUS rules in favor of absolute Presidential immunity: All Hail King Dark Biden!
Ahahaha it is almost as if the people who think they want this have not thought it through. 🤭 Blue tsunami, indeed. 💙🌊
@@SomethingBlonde-oc7sc LMAO 🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣 #enjoyingthemovie🤣🤣
No one is above the law. Period.
It is shameful that the SC should be even discussig the point
Where else would they discuss it? The View? TMZ? Your local CVS pharmacy? That’s the one forum that can discuss that topic. When the Biden’s get the same treatment I would love to see if people react the same. Democrat doesn’t equal good and Republican doesn’t equal evil. Research is very important in decision making.
Democrats are way above the law.
President is above the law. He has immunity
Not even Biden!
The current President hopes they get immunity! When he leaves office he’ll be charged with several crime! Money laundering to state with!
It's so hard and stressful listening to these arguments. Oh my God. What is wrong with the supreme court
The Emperor has no clothes. hahaha
Trumps attorney fighting off objections: nahh ahh. I disagree.
Dark Biden going to get him LoL
Was very impressed by the Govt’s lawyer Michael Dreeben..well done!
Here we go
We’re already there
This hearing sounds like a game “follow my lead defense attorney “ the court lead this guy to his answers and when he got a wrong one they say “that is not what we are talking about here. SMH
God this lawyers voice is hidious like he spunds like a snake
please Civics ioi in school covered this shame on the courts and lawyers, we all Trump is using his position for self-gain, give this; lawyer a cough drop!
Do they still teach civics
The Court should simplify the question of what could be Immunity!
What a waste of time. I don't understand Trumps attorneys gameplan here. There's absolutely no chance SCOTUS rules in their favor.
Don't be surprised.
Game plan is delay
@carlosnava8485 I agree with you but to what end? They're simply just not going to be able to delay the trial until the election, which I assume is the goal. Eventually, they will run out of excuses to delay and then he will be in the midst of a criminal trial during the height of his campaign.
The Supreme Court should never have heard this case.
This is 😢😢stupid. Why is the Supreme Court even listening to this? Makes them look stupid
l cannot even say how horrendously offensive it is that this subject is actually being discussed as though it would ever be considered ! These are the things we pay these supreme court judges to do on our behalf 's ? It is crystal clear after listening to this insane discussion that these supreme court judges are absolutely devoid of justice, which i feel is most likely it why our country has been drained of any there might of been. Society better wake up and stand against all the crap going on all around us, instead of getting distracted by what is going on in other countries and other crap they are distracting people with! It is time to gather are wits and number of monstrous proportion of citizens who are ready to strip all of their immunity , they have been getting away with all their corruption we have been fed by them quite generously !
This is going to take the Supreme Court some time to make a decision because it will become law for so many years into the future.
Actually, those justices who kept saying that they were concerned for the future were departing from a longstanding principle that guides the work of the Supreme Court. That is, that it keeps its review to the most narrow margins, to deliberate only over the specifics of the case before them, rather than venture into the realm of legislating from the bench. They seem to have totally forgotten that, or at least a few of them have, in their current deliberations. It's pretty alarming, frankly. Too much of today's discussion had nothing to do with the Jan. 6 case!
@@dmann1115 Agreed. The defense representatives kept swaying the arguments as each Judge tried to focus on the issues in the case.
It shouldn’t be a question at all. Complete immunity for the President is the literal opposite of what the United States was founded on and has stood for in all of its existence.
No Immunity Defendant Trump. 🎉
President should have immunity. Biden could get rid of the fascist judges😂😂😂😂😂😂
Well he could get rid of the fascist at every level. Mtg 👋😂
The question can a Pesident be charged with doing an illegal act?
Questioning whether it was official or private should bear no weight because the results are the same.
Official Act- done with the advice of the president's advisors.
Private Acts-”cannot be immune because the fact president is provided with the best legal counsel to help with official acts, meaning, he is told by his lawyers “You cannot do that it is illegal”. HERE IT COMES: If the president does not take the advice of the presidential advisors and goes ahead with an illegal act,
He has done- “An Illegal Act”!
Immunity should only be considered for very special situations.
Official power with corrupt intent is jail bait. Ask any commissioned officer...
why would a President call the public sit in on the congress Floor?
Insanity. This would grant kingship.
His lawyer sounds like a robot! 🤷🏽♀️
3 supreme judges of USA crazy enough to weight in, rather than throw a book, hell whole library to the Trump lawyer....are beyond me.
Wth...!?
“The unsouling of America” ~Judge Luttig
This dude is guilty and that is why he's a Trump "Fast Talker" about nothing!
So, unfortunately, but a good thing that's not you are not the judge and jury.
These comments about voices are tedious. Whatever you think about the merit of their actual arguments, both lawyers are obviously very quick on their feet + well-prepared. Commenting on something out of their control is unnecessary.
Not much to report
No immunity
This is ridiculous
But Justice, what if he had his fingers crossed behind his back when he took the oath...
Its rediculous that they are even wasting time with this
They're giving Trump time, a delay, so he's not prosecuted during election
This will all be studied in depth through the ages. The true truth will eventually ring true
The Chief Justice’s line of questioning here sails pretty close to the conditions surrounding the President’s appointments of Supreme Court Justices.
Nobody said that there is no such thing as "official acts"!
The Law of America should be the 10 Commandments Honored by all .
All I hear is evasive almost TEXT like lies !
So easy to see.
Double Standard treatment.
In your Face.
No remorse.
Don't care if you like it or not attitude.
In November Vote Blue.
Keep the MAGA extremist Cult Out!!
Period.
The perfect timing... All this bs in 2024 🤔🤔 jhc. They know people don't they 😒
Damn!! Justice Brown-Jackson is good!!!!❤❤❤
Devil might be at work . God Almighty save us !
When people break state and federal laws, they do not have immunity from the crimes. No matter who you are even Supreme Court judges.
Looks like biden and his family have no worries about breaking the law
Presidents can do thing. The courts have no power against them I have no pride in our country anymore the judge ruined our laws and my life Americans are help less any more we no laws no pride in our country I am extremely disappointed in our judges
The court wana give trump their power.
its not about trump. its about the presidency for the next 100 or 1,000 years
Listen for Kavanaugh to posit something to the effect of: the _majority_ of people think President Ford pardoning Nixon is one of the “better decisions”....
WTAF?!?
If Nixon has immunity why did he need a pardon? Is what I would have asked
Let us pray for our country and Government.Please 😔🙏🙏
Such BS. Why is it so hot in here, and what are we doing in this hand basket?!?!?!
Jackson shouldn’t even be on the courts!
Sometimes he sounds like a car that won't start in the middle of winter.
I’m not American and even my blood runs cold listening to this. This is maniacal
They'd better get this one right!!!
It beggars belief that any nation calling itself civilised would even think to ask these questions with the expectation that they might actually get the answer they are demanding !. It's a new kind of insanity.
Justice
Suppose the Supreme Court issues an order prohibiting Joe Boden from doing something, and he decides to do it anyway- If it's something he wants to do as President and it's not personal- can he go and do it anyway, in the exercise of his Function as President- and based on the argument I've heard, there's no penalty.
Who cares about The House's and Senate's budget or raising debt ceiling, these are things the President does in the exercise of his function as President, they're not personal and he has no personal gain, he can just ignore them and do whatever he wants.
The US might as well be Saudi Arabia.
There was a banging noise in my kitchen Calum. It was Norman.....paraNorman. 😁
Why did you bother splitting from England if you are going back to the age of Kings now?
This guy sounds like a fool telling Americans the President can commit any crimes any gets away with it He doesn’t sound like a great lawyer his answers are vague
Only President Klown, I don't think any past president have a circus like him or need immunity for any official matters
Never thought I would find a supreme court hearing interesting. But here i am.
1:00:54 : CONTEXT: Operation Mongoose, the covert operation aimed at destabilizing the Cuban government, was conducted during the Kennedy administration. It was authorized by President Kennedy but operated under the jurisdiction of the CIA. The legality of such covert operations often depends on interpretation and context, but as it was conducted by an agency under executive authority, it wasn't directly attributed to the president as a criminal act. Additionally, at the time, there was significant support for aggressive actions against communist regimes, which influenced the perception of such operations.
BS and they don't want to honor money back. This available at Amazon much cheaper
It cannot and does not say: immunity- even if you did it for personal gains, we won’t hold you responsible.
I love how the in-studio camera just stood still without movement during the hearings.
Nothing
Video is not allowed only audio
Ño camera in court
God damn. Trump's lawyer must be a chain smoker
I appreciate someone else’s comment that in Nixons pardon case, that was to stop what would have been a guilty finding so the country could move forward. The difference is that isn’t total immunity while President. Either way, they are setting the law for future President.
I’m so glad to have grown up in the times that the line of Right and Wrong was easily seen. Muddled up? Reminds me of the Biblical verse confusion is of the devil. Another description? Baffle them with cow manure.
This guy ate a popeyes biscuit before he entered the court
😂😂😂😂
It just occurred to me .
Who will do trumps hair ? BUBBA ?
That vocal fry sounds like RFK's twin flame.
They are JUST BUYING TIME.....
DELAY...DELAY...DELAY..
"If" I'm following this case in the proper context which is that the law of the land does, or should provide for President Trump, or any president, to be held criminally liable for acts committed while president that benefits that president which act, or acts can be deemed criminal in nature which legal logic should be a given. Therefore, it does appear that an impeachment would be the initial remedy and if successful, then there could be a criminal prosecution in the federal courts afterward. However, in this case of President Trump being "accused" of trying to "overturn" the 2020 general election has the added beneficial element for our entire nation that far exceeds President Trump's personal benefit of being able to continue serving as president. This benefit is that "if" the 2020 general election was indeed "proven" to have been fraudulent we the people benefit in having the individual in office as the president who was duly elected, along with the exposure and then the appropriate criminal prosecution of those responsible for corrupting/stealing the 2020 general election which removal of that criminal element from our society is a further benefit to our nation, as the law requires. The problem is that there was never a trial held that would have been able to determine, one way or the other, as whether or not there was a corrupted/stolen 2020 general election thus there was no "impeachment", of a sort, with a finding of guilt which "guilt" would have been the proving of having a fair election, that would provide for a subsequent criminal prosecution for trying to steal the 2020 general election.
In other words, it appears to this layman that several legal requirements are being "skipped over" that shouldn't have been "skipped over" which omission of the due process of law appears, to me anyway, to negate this particular presidential immunity hearing? To belabor my point, President Trump hasn't been "legally proven" to be guilty of anything to do with stealing the 2020 general election, and from what I understand, he has never even been charged with any criminal act related to him trying to steal the 2020 general election, so..., like..., ummmm where is the need for immunity in the first place? I mean..., am I missing something here?
Maybe I’m missing something too, but he was indicted and they are in pretrial proceedings for the trial, so yes he has been charged, but no of course he has not been found guilty because there hasn’t been a trial yet. As part of the pretrial proceedings, Trump and his team appealed by saying he has presidential immunity, hence us being here. It first went to DC appeals court and was denied, Trump and team then appealed to the Supreme Court.
Therefore, due process is happening, but the trial has been delayed until it’s determined if he has immunity and thus if this indictment can actually go to trial.
Remember a lot of this is unprecedented
Also you referred to an impeachment, but my understanding is that an impeachment only applies to a currently sitting public servant. Thus WHILE Trump was in office, he would’ve had to be impeached on this, but obviously the transfer of power was literally what was happening. Once he was out of office, you can’t impeach anymore, which lends itself into the conversation of criminal proceedings like we have now.
Also the question of if an impeachment is necessary in general has also been a big one because if it was decided that an impeachment must come first before a criminal action takes place, then someone could do something illegal then step down from their position before an impeachment could happen, thereby skirting the process.
ALL THE CHARGES FOR TRYING TO STEAL THE ELECTION ARE BEING HELD UP BY THIS ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY CASE
@@finesseeeeeee6409 My point was and is that for a president, there must first be an impeachment with a finding of guilt before than can be a criminal charge and if there is, it must go through the federal courts AFTER an impartial hearing to determine whether or not it is case worthy of prosecution, or what we have now which is a Witch Hunt. The point remains, even under the current circumstances, there have been short cuts, the lack of due process of the law, and that has to be forbidden.
Sauer sounds like Davros and the Daleks from “Dr. Who” how appropriate! “Exterminate-exterminate”! I hope the SCOTUS strike down Davros and his Daleks to protect humanity!