[FULL] MUST WATCH Sunni VS Shia Debate - Mohammed Hijab VS Sayyid Haamid - ShiaNET
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- This is the full Debate between Mohammed Hijab VS Sayyid Haamid.
We apologise for the slight technical issue in the middle but the voice recording was there and that is what matters.
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Shia Speaker - Sayyid Haamid
Sunni Speaker - Mohammed Hijab
Camera - Hassan Hady
Sound - Hassan Hady
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Ive have been introduced to shia islam because of this video, we have alot to question as sunnis. This man had some great points that Hijab couldnt answer. We have to research Shia islam.
Hey, how are you and have you converted to shia islam?
Mash Allah may Allah bless your research
May Allah guide you to Shiaism brother. Do your research.
@Salamun alaikum You should say this even more. You will need it. 😂.
@Salamun alaikum Yeah please follow it, you hypocrite fuck.
Lol the Salafi guy was interpreting every saying or hadith mentioned to him his own way... and then he says 'that's according to shia books'. Hypocrisy at its finest...
He is not expert in shia muslims tell your shia scholars to accept Farid challenge and to debate
@@seidroi4594 if he isn't then why is he challenging others to debates?
@@seidroi4594 bayat al ghader and mufti abu layth has put up a challenge and debate but farid keeps ignoring and doging it and makes videos about them and edits and claims to refute them, he dont have the guts to debate them becuse he know he will be owned just like mohammed hijab got owned by shia
I'm convinced that shiasm is right and it's on the day of the mawlid of imam ALI AS
At the end of the day I’m just a Muslim
@ but no I am not
prove shiism from quran and sunnah
@@sin2591 what is shiism??
Congratulations
Hijab keeps denying his own books and keeps playing semantics. He clearly lost. May ALLAH (swt) bless brother Sayed Hamid.
Bro look at your Profile picture, thats one and two, when i click on your acc, you only follow women who dress half naked? Whats wrong with you, Allah s.w.t. exposed you subhanAllah! May Allah guide the shia, and destroy who curse the Sahaba raḍiya-llāhu ʿanhum!
Lol he won’t answer it Mohammed hijabi as very cleaver man when he can’t answer your question he will confuse you lmao and divert the attention to other topic this guys lmao
Wallah you are right. He likes to show off for the camera.
He just shows off. And the funny thing is, he accused the Shia brother later on in the debate.
Lol you answer why they elected Ali ra. as a Caliph and why did it become legit?
It's basically questioning why you can't answer. Syiah can be very manipulative.
This tall guy just didn't know where to go and hide lol, the other guy got him good
It's ironic how he says my opinion doesn't matter when the whole election thing is an opinion based thing.
THE MOMENT YOU START ARGUING WITH AN INGNORENT FOOL, YOU HAVE ALREADY LOST.
-Imam Ali (AS)
Ali Ajam he definitely is educated and well spoken but he was very disingenuous and insincere in this debate. May Allah guide us all
@Ali Ajam Imam Ali said "The truth is more clear than the sun". And " A blind eye is better than a blind heart"
No, need to convince our brother in faith he is free to make his on judgment. May Allah (SWT) enlighten our hearts.
@Dagar Wal the prophet it part of the ahlulbayt
@Dagar Wal I dont praise him more than the prophet the prophet is way more superior than him
@Dagar Wal because sometimes we want people to recognize the merits of Imam Ali because there has been so many good things he has done and people always overlooked him
The guys with Mohammed Hijab look clueless quite frankly and look like they were only there to cheer him on rather than listen to the debate. As for Mohammed Hijab blimey he was evading the questions asked by the other debater Haamid every single time. Clearly he lost the debate as well as looking frustrated that he could not come back with anything. Clearly a loss for him.
he kept laughing at Syed Haamid's statements as well
I love how he came prepared with a fake shia claiming to be Sunni now just to say here is a shia who is Sunni now lol. He brought him so he can make a statement if he lost the debate. Also look at there group they have every character even a junkie imam with a Allah hat who probably doesn't know how to wash his ass.
@@JohnDoe-yq3nn “junkie with Allah hat” had me laughing. Unbelievable Hijab brought the whole team.
The sunni side wasn't respectful , i am ashamed of that
He always not respectful to others whom he had debated, be a christian, muslim or anything for that matter.... Yet he had the audacity to talk about how well mannered the prophet was. Listen, dont preach if you dont pratice it....
This is a fallacy. When the brother said “find me an example where waliy mawla or caliph is used for someone other than Imam Ali” I am sure everyone PERFECTLY understood what he meant by that. It means find any authentic hadith where the prophet (saws) says to someone else other than Imam Ali (as) in the context of leadership that they will be the leader/waliy/caliph/mawla after him. Furthermore if the prophet (saws) used as many hadiths about Imam Ali (as) for Umar and Abu Bakr then the Sunnis would ABSOLUTELY jump to them immediately and be quick to say “yes leader” “yes waliy” “yes mawla” “yes caliph”. I hate insincerity and I bare witness to the truth of who the prophet (saws) chose before he died against those who rejected him and allowed his rightful position to be usurped by others.
Exactly!
I noticed this bias. I was surprised to learn the whole context of Ghadeer Khum and the verses prophet s.a.w recited and questions he asked before "mawla" part. Shias have put me in skepticism, may Allah guide me.
Masha'llah ... sayyed hamid shutting them down
LOOOOOOL
Tell your shia scholars to accept farid debate challenge bitch
@@seidroi4594 why do you have to use profanity?
@@seidroi4594 so much ignorance ...
Lol you answer why they elected Ali ra. as a Caliph and why did it become legit?
It's basically questioning what you can't answer. Syiah can be very manipulative.
I love how hijab Casually denies his own books
😂😂😂🤣
Hahaha
fr calling them weak LMAOO
Sunni .... what ever you say from our book ..... weak weak weak
This actually is a weak hadith 😂😂😂
Sayed Hamid
You are Salman farsi of our time
You enlightened my heart
I was a sunni but after this video alhamdullallah I reverted to shia'sm the tall Salafi man struggled to answer the questions of the shia guy. He avoided his questions and interrupted him a numerous amount of times. It was a 5v1 and the shia still came with better responses.
Alhamdulillah many allah (swt) bless you
الحمد لله❤
Wellahi u lied.... either u were Shia from the start or this was not the only reason u change ur religion from Islam to shia
@@salahhalas6732 I guess he changed his way of thinking of Islam
So you went from worshipping Allah to worshipping ahlul baiit? That is the biggest mistake you ever done in your life I advise you to reconsider
Alhumduliallah I’m a proud Shia of Ali these thugs tried to bully the Shia brother but he was to smart for them and destroyed them with intellect
There's no such thing in the Qur'an, doesn't that bother you? Such an important thing and nowhere is it mentioned in the Qur'an.
Mutah child
@@stephanadam4670 your mother aisha bint abu bakr wh0re came from firhon's pharaoh's mutah even abu bakr ibn abu quhafa may Allah cursed him accepted that Ameen
@@stephanadam4670 cry more and give me your sister in halala
@@Urban_Revert proof namaz method , imam mahdi or dajjal from the quran.
Shia brother you simply nailed it simply.
How? he couldn't show where in the Quran it states that people must follow imams
@@MisterPete3leave him brother, this is a shia comment section. let em have their own happiness
@@MisterPete3 Show us in the Qur'an where the Mahdi is mentioned? Show us where the 124,000 Prophets of Islam are mentioned? Show me where rukat of Salahs are mentioned?
Just because its not mentioned by name, does NOT invalidate its existence
As for the Quran;
وَمِمَّنْ خَلَقْنَا أُمَّةٌ يَهْدُونَ بِالْحَقِّ وَبِهِ يَعْدِلُونَ.
And of those whom We have created are a people who guide with the truth and thereby they do justice. (Surah Araf 7:181)
And of those whom We have created are a people who guide with the truth and thereby they do justice. (Surah Araf 7:181)
And that sect is that of our Shias.
Ayyashi has narrated two traditions from Amirul Momineen (a.s.) in this way.
Second verse:
وَالَّذِينَ جَاهَدُوا فِينَا لَنَهْدِيَنَّهُمْ سُبُلَنَا وَإِنَّ اللَّهَ لَمَعَ الْمُحْسِنِينَ.
And (as for) those who strive hard for Us, we will most certainly guide them in Our ways, and Allah is most certainly with the doers of good. (Surah Ankabut 29:69)
أَفَمَنْ يَهْدِي إِلَى الْحَقِّ أَحَقُّ أَنْ يُتَّبَعَ أَمَّنْ لَا يَهِدِّي إِلَّا أَنْ يُهْدَى فَمَا لَكُمْ كَيْفَ تَحْكُمُونَ.
Is he then who guides to the truth more worthy to be followed, or he who himself does not go aright unless he is guided? What then is the matter with you, how do you judge? (Surah Yunus 10:35)
Ali Ibne Ibrahim has narrated from Imam Baqir (a.s.) that the one who guides the people towards truth, is the Prophet and after him is his Holy progeny and the one who without guidance does not become guided is the one who opposes the Ahlul Bayt of the Prophet after the passing away of the Prophet (S).
Ibne Shahr Aashob has narrated from Zaid Ibne Ali and we have mentioned earlier that this verse is very clear about the Imamate of the Imams (a.s.) because each of them was most knowledgeable in his own time especially in comparison to those who falsely claimed the Caliphate.
Fourth verse:
وَمَنْ أَضَلُّ مِمَّنْ اتَّبَعَ هَوَاهُ بِغَيْرِ هُدًى مِنْ اللَّهِ.
And who is more erring than he who follows his low desires without any guidance from Allah? (Surah Qasas 28:50)
Imamate is a divine appointment and a fallible person can not be an Imam. Madelung, regarding the blood ties which is found in Quran, states the superiority of Ali for his succession.
Here are some verses from the Holy Qur’an concerning true and pure Imams:
It is Allah’s wish to remove all blemish from you, O Ahlul-Bayt, and purify you with a perfect purification. (Qur’an 33:33)
Say, I ask no reward from you for it except the love of my kinsfolk. And whosoever does a good deed we add unto it a greater good for him. Lo, Allah is Forgiving, Responsive. (Qur’an 42:23)
And whoever disputes with thee concerning him after the inspired knowledge which has been given unto thee, tell him, "Come, let us call our sons and your sons; our women and your women; and ourselves and yourselves; then let us pray and invoke Allah’s curse upon those who lie.”(Qur’an 3:61)
Hold fast to the Rope of Allah, all of you together and do not diverge. (Qur’an 3:103)
Be careful of your duty to Allah and be with the Truthful. (Qur’an 9:119)
Lo, this is My Straight Path, so follow it and do not follow other ways or else you will diverge from His way. (Qur’an 6:153)
O you believe, obey Allah and obey His Messenger and those amongst you who are give supreme authority (by Allah). Qur’an (4:59)
Whoever opposes the Prophet after the guidance has been made manifest unto him and follows any path other than the path of the true believers, We will turn him towards that unto which he himself has turned, and We will expose him to Hell and a bad journey it will be. Qur’an (4:115)
(O Prophet) Lo! thou art a warner and for every community there is a guide. (Qur’an 13:7)
Guide us in the Straight Path: The Path of those whom Thou hast blessed... (Qur’an 1:6-7)
They are those whom Allah has blessed among the prophets and the verifiers, the martyrs and the righteous. (Qur’an 4:69)
They (i.e., prophets and Imams) do not say anything until He orders, and they act (in all things) by His command. He knows what is before them and what is behind them and they (i.e., those saints) offer no intercession except for anyone whom Allah accepts, and they are in awe and reverence of His (glory). Qur’an (21:27-28)
Verily your master is only Allah, and His messenger and those among the believers who establish worship and pay the poor due while they are bowing down in prayer. Qur’an (5:55)
And lo! Verily I am the Most forgiving towards him who repents and believes and does good and then follows the guidance. Qur’an (20:82)
O you who believe, enter into peace, all of you, and do not follow the footsteps of the Satan. (Qur’an 2:208)
Then, on that day, you will be asked concerning the blessing. (Qur’an 102:8)
O you Messenger, convey what has been revealed unto you by your Lord, for if you do not do so, you will not have conveyed His message at all. And Allah will protect you from the people. Lo! Allah guides not the disbelieving folk Qur’an (5:67)
This day have We perfected for you your religion and finalized Our blessing upon you, and We are pleased that Islam be your religion. (Qur’an 5:3)
A questioner asked for the inevitable punishment to befall the disbelievers which no one can avert. (Qur’an 70:1-2)
And when your Lord brought forth from the lions of the Children of Adam their seed, and made them bear testimony about their souls (He asked):"Am I not your Lord?”They said: "Yes, we bear witness.”(Qur’an 7:172)
Or are they jealous of those men because of that which Allah has bestowed upon them in His bounty? (Qur’an 4:54)
None touches (the depth of meaning of Qur’an) save the purified ones. (Qur’an 56:79)
No one knows its interpretation except Allah and those who are firmly ground in knowledge. (Qur’an 3:7)
Ask the people of Reminder if you do not know. (Qur’an 21:7, 16:43)
@@hamzanazrabi7276 keep crying and lying u nasibi
@@MisterPete3He literally gave it at the start.
I can see that brother Mohammed Hijab was rattled this time around. He had it easy when he spoke to Shiah brothers who were struggling with the English language. But brother Sayyid Haamid had made an impressive argument as he was not handicapped by both English and Arabic language.
@Salamun alaikum Your hijabi had to delete the last part but answer me this, When did Allah give the choice to a ummah to choose their own leaders?
I thought you guys were against democracy 😂🤣🤣
@@thepr1ntgnome430 many shai people are embracing Islam. Come back to Islam bro .
The shiasm is a wrong path, an innovation. The practices are totally naive in shaism. And mohammad hijab has destroyed your many shia so called learned shias. Including this guy
@@Shahidtalkstv where are you from and when did hijab destroy anyone but his sunniesm?
@@thepr1ntgnome430 he destroyed the argument made by shias, open your eyes, there is a veil on your eyes .
And alhamdulillah many shais are reverting to Islam including the grandson of Ayatollah
@@Shahidtalkstvall ya scholars are becoming Shia and guess what no such thing as shiaism
HIJAB trying to do "Hijab" from truth😆😆😆😆
I'm shian but I'm here just to prove my listening skill
The tall guy is running away from the question over n over again
These guys are all Salafi. I also used to be a Sunni, it just didn't make sense to me that after the Prophet, there was not an appointed leader. How can that be?! May Allah guide us all Ameen. We just need to unite on the core values that we all share. We're all Muslims after all. ❤️
Because The idea of being a leader is a huge responsibility. Many fear Allah , that is why a Muslim would be afraid to be leader because he will have to stand infront of Allah. The prophet Muhammad PBUH knows this and did not burden anyone with it.
@@abdulrahman7183 So Explain this! I'm looking forward to your answers that you not have!! Show 1 verse in the Quran or anywhere that Hz Abu Bakr (ra) or any human be will be chosen as the caliph by the people??? Show 1 verse of 4 right madhhab sunnis?? Show 1 verse that the word sunni is mentioned in a verse of the Quran or in hadiths. Tell me which madhhab the Prophet (sav) had so that I can follow that madhhab! Show me 1 verse of these all!! Did our Prophet (sav) say, "i am living the world, See what you do after I die? Estağfirullah " Mind melting??? So according to the Sunnis, that's what it means!! What mind melts!!! Wake up now!! Can Allah (swt) make a mistake? Estağfirullah. Hz Ali (as) is a lighthearted person appointed by Allah (svt)!!! He has been chosen by Allah (svt) as the first amir el mumminin!! That's the truth! Read and learn the verses of the Quran 5:67 (Khutbah of Ghadir Hum) and 5:3 (our religion is being completed). The Prophet Muhammad (sav) left us two trusts, one of which is the book of Allah (swt) the Qur'an, and the second is his Ahl al-Bayt (as)!! It is mentioned in the Quran 33:33, which identifies who the Ahl al-Bayt (as) is! In other words, the Prophet Muhammad (sav), Hz Ali (as), Hz Fatma (as), Hz Hassan (as) and Hz Huseyin (as). Why was the gadir hum incident hidden by the Sunnis for so long (14 centuries) until the people reveals the truth. And the word Ahl al-Bayt was changed to the word 'sunnah' in most Sunni books? (I leave you two things, one is the book of Allah (swt) and the second is 'sunnah' (Ahl al-Bayt). This is mentioned in many Sunni books, so it has always been known like this all the time! Why were these hidden and changed for 14 centuries? Think carefully. Now open your eyes brothers!
@@abdulrahman7183 yes yes yes, so in other words see what all of you do after I'm dead? Right! Estagfurullah! Where do you get this nonsense from? How can you make these statements on behalf of the Prophet (sav)???
So now you do mutah and taqqiyah.. also there was a leader
@@stephanadam4670yes he does mutah with your mom aisha bint abi bakr la fahisha
Hijab beaten by this Shia debater how respectful he is 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰
There was no defeat. Try again.
@@ahsenlive there was destruction not defeat🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥
the dog barking of sunnis to hide the truth of the shia. MashaAllah, now i'm a shia and your video helped me 4 years ago.
Oh and by the way , the Hadith where he says Ali (as) is the caliph after me is not weak and in fact that author of the Sunni book said quite clearly that it's sahih
And why are they not shia themselves? Shia just take sunmi references but having different perceptions.
Ibrahim Jamadi go ask them why they aren’t Shi’a, we bring references and proofs from your books, we aren’t going to go into detail about every narrators life, ya allah, you guys seriously will go and bring terrible arguments JUST to disprove Ali. shu amb aseer ya khaye bil alem?
gozer ja How is believing Ali as the rightful caliph shirk
@transporter255 We love Ali as. You prove to me that you are true follower of Ali(as). A challenge to all shian.
@gozer ja if they dont want to commit shirk then stay away from shirk. That doesnt mean you should reject the first legitimate successor imam Ali (karramallaahu wajhah). If you reject authentic hadith of the prophet then you are in a horrible path. Why cant sunnis just accept the hadith and consider imam Ali as the first legitimate successor appointed by the prophet, and destroy this cursed sectarianism. Accepting the hadith is not shirk. End of story. And why dont both Sunnis and Shias follow the Quran and sunnah of prophet in exposing the liers. How to deal with these kinds of conflict is clearly revealed in the Quran. Why not follow this verse below and put up the challenge like so 👇
Aal-e-Imran 3:61
فَمَنْ حَآجَّكَ فِيهِ مِنۢ بَعْدِ مَا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلْعِلْمِ فَقُلْ تَعَالَوْا۟ نَدْعُ أَبْنَآءَنَا وَأَبْنَآءَكُمْ وَنِسَآءَنَا وَنِسَآءَكُمْ وَأَنفُسَنَا وَأَنفُسَكُمْ ثُمَّ نَبْتَهِلْ فَنَجْعَل لَّعْنَتَ ٱللَّهِ عَلَى ٱلْكَٰذِبِينَ
Then whoever argues with you about it after [this] knowledge has come to you - say, "Come, let us call our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves, then supplicate earnestly [together] and invoke the curse of Allah upon the liars [among us]."
If you cant do this then stop arguing on this matter and let Allah judge between us in the day of judgement. Then we all will know which is the truth.
RIP Mohammed Hijab...recite al Fatiha.
AL FAAAAAAATIIHAAA
So Hijab says that the Shias and Sunnis agree that there should be a Caliph after the Prophet. Hijab also did not answer the simple question that from Adam to Muhammad - Allah has always selected a caliph and not given that responsibility to anyone.
In order to escape the debate, Hijab (like all salafis) says that he will believe in Ali and the other 11 Imams if there names are listed in the Quran. Simple answer is that the name of the Imams are listed under the ayah that clearly states we should pray 2,4,4,3,4 rakat for wajib salah and 17 total. When Hijab finds 17 rakat in the Quran, I will provide 12 names of Imams as well.
Shia Man facts!
U ignorant like christians. I see no deference u shias and christians
Hahahahahahaha u angry bro?....thats how people do when they wanna run from facts...i use to never knew about sects especially SHIA...untill i started typing Sunni vs Shia on TH-cam and Shia argument be winning in ratio of su30% and sh70%...i watch this radio over and something said to me it's simple...everyone knows there must be a KALIFA....because just like everyone knows after one president is another ...so some must want it by force..greed...politically...hatefully..wisely...wishfully....all ways...and everyone must know who it fits or most likely candidate..so my question is ...how can he then die and either not say...I LEAVE YOU MUSLIMS TO CHOOSE...OR...I WILL CHOOSE....but history says "he died and left the Muslims to decide "....hahahahahahaha...to be honest I am not against Sunni or shia...but many things both of them says makes me hahahahaha because it never makes sense...I ALWAYS SAY GOD SUNNA IS ANYTHING GOOD AND CAN BE FOUND FROM ANY HUMAN EITHER BY ACTION OR VERBAL OR SPIRITUAL...and they ask a stupid question which is not stupid...how does the imam be ALL WISE?...simple*****every human knows God is suppose to have unlimited service while human is limited ...and 2....is it not someone who knows physics..maths..biology..chemsitry...geography?..go ask the weather man or voodoo man how he got the knowledge of the unseen...hahahaha in short ask the illuminati or anti_christ you'll know there should also be a super hero to have same knowledge....as for them being PERFECT ill say if I can judge myself based on character/religious...ill say I am 50%I'm not good or bad so also I've seen people worse and better than me so this tells me someone can be sinless...not only the imams...they have innocent jews/Christians/Buda/rasta..who are sinless...and my proof also includes fasting periods ...our sins are very limited during those periods so what about those who devote to good and avoid evil?.....THINK and don't be arrogant coz thats mans most weakest side ...best gift from devil...
Shia is the best. He answered the best way sunni person is just jumping all around. How can you follow the sunni when you not agree your own hadith.
This Sunni is so brainwashed that he kept denieing Hadees after Hadeesh Verse after verse. Show this from Quram show that from Quran when he showed he is not ready to accept so brainwashed.
No wonder he start denieng Adhan, Kalma etc and say its not in Quran. Ignorance.
When this tall guy has no valid point, no valid arguments he says following things " disingenious, you are embarassing yourself, You need to be educated, " this tall starts being disrespectful without giving any answers.
Challenge to all Shain brothers to explain the meanings of “La Tahzan Innalaha Ma'ana" I believe it has the answer to your basic doubts.
He's calling the Ahadith weak when more likely than not he's never even heard them 😂
Cause it is😂
@@juslearnin730 they are all strong stop running away
How can he call Bukhari and muslim weak LMAOOO this guy is so dumb
@@juslearnin730 al-Dhahabi, al-Albani, and Ahmad ibn Hanbal all say it is strong.
@@SoldieroftheImam313running away like Omar in battle
The 12 successors are in hadith
Excellent brother Haamid, clearly Hijab failed to answer your simple question on the caliphate. He stooped very low by personally attacking you and intentionally misinterpreting Hadith al-Manzila. May Allah swt reward you for clearly proving that the Holy Prophet nominated Imam Ali as his wasi, caliph & imam after him.
He answered all of it.
This shia made clear and evident/supportive arguments. Well done!
is thata joke? shia was clearly lying and abrogating
@@soheil527 clearly? mohamed Hijab was denying things and accepting things at the same time! There's no way br haamid was lying because mohamed hijab accepted that they were in his books
@@soheil527 but Haamid used you hadiths and all Muhammad Hijab did was ask questions. He gave no real answer and no proof for anything. All he said was that Haamid was lying and said his own Hadiths were weak. He said Sunnis believe in ahlul-bayt but not in the 12 imams?? And you thought Haamid was wrong?? Please educate yourself because Sunnis don’t know anything about Shias.
@@soheil527 hijab couldn't answer his questions dancing around the edges teyna hide the matter
@@soheil527 what did he lie about
Not a shia, but I have always believe the legitimacy of Ali above all the rashidun caliph.....
And I also wonder why Ali who spent his whole life serving the Prophet don't even have up to hundred hadith in sunni books!!!
😴😴😴
Then you are a shia
Shia are Big liars Ali has Hadith in Sunni books more than abubakr
Oh Shia of Mohammed Ali pls ask them who can tell us more about ourselves than us?
He didn't have many hadiths because the 4 pillars of sunni mainly made up the 5000 hadiths of each of the 4 individuals
@@SoulSis369 Shia means friend
Ma'sha Allah Sunni hadith books full of weak hadith! Every single citation quoted by Sayyid Haamid from Sunni books is daif according to Hijab.
The Shia is the clear winner! The Shia guy put Hijab in his place even tho, Hijab and his gang tried bullying him but it didnt work.
You’re clearly blind
The argument after 53:00 can not be rejected by any sunni.
Sunni/Wahabi Logic:
Umar uses Wali -> Successor
Prophet uses Wali for Ali -> Not successor
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Please explain
Greska Greska the successorship was legitimate for the 12 imams because each of their names are mentioned in Hadith and they were chosen by there fathers who would succeed them
@@greskagreska7 it does becuase if you do accept it that means Abu bakr usurped it becuase how else would he have become khalifa lol.
I WAS A SUNNI BEFORE WATCHING THIS VIDEO AND A SHIA AFTER. THE TRUTH ARE WITH AHLULBAIYT
Do taqqiya
@@mukhtarfromkashmirvalley6079 taqiya? What is that
@@glory2win brother you had said that you became Shia after watching this vedieo
You have to pray to Fatima and god by the same time 😂😂😂
@@seidroi4594 you ignorant dimwit. you don’t know anything. You sound extremely dumb to even comment. Like seriously, go watch Sesame Street or something.
masterful debating from Sayed Hamid, all shout no substance from Hijab
❤Imam Ali is the Gate of Knowledge
These sunnies r far away from the gate of knowledge may allah guid them towards it
@@shahidaarif3294 Says people who do Shirk on a consistent basis?
@@Urban_Revert What shirk??
@@whatcolorisyourBugattii Calling on Ali, Hussein may Allah be pleased with them, asking for things from Fatima in your sujood, other things as well.
@@Urban_Revert no brother we don't do that may Allah guide u I have a question for u who told you these that we worship imam Hussain and imam Hassan is anyone brainwashing u??
This sunni guy must know meaning of word khalifaa ....khalifaa doesn't mean leader by dictionary .....
Its literal mean is to come after or to replace ...... this alone shows his level of maturity or knowledge ...
Well done to the Shia speaker. Great ikhlaq and respect. To be fair he absolutely smashed hijab to pieces in a very high intellectual way. Hijab tried to mock this guy but was left gob smacked by this guy's intellect. One Shia against so many but stood his ground. Hats off to you.
Allahumma Shalli ala Muhammad wa Ali Muhammad...... Assalamalaika ya sahibbuzzaman Al Mahdi allaihi salam.....Allahumma Shalli ala Muhammad wa Ali Muhammad...... Assalamalaika ya sahibbuzzaman Al Mahdi allaihi salam.....
@@Anticolonialist our brother was not about proving imamah...
Ali don't be funny, even YOUR Shia scholar in the debate with hijab after this one said that they didn't represent Shia belief in the correct manner and you're clapping him..
That's all I have to say.
Greska Greska all I have to say is Hijab just proved that the justice of the rightly guided caliph( as believed by Sunnis) is wrong by agreeing with Hamid that yes caliph are to be chosen by Allah alone...and he said that their is disagreement about the caliphate in among Sunni scholars which proves that till now your claim to follow the rightly guided caliph is still in question and your belief base is weak and needs to be sorted out among Ahlul sunnah scholars....that were they really the one deserved to be caliphs ? If yes than why they chose so many different ways to appoint one another....
Wa-Salam!!!
Trinity Is a Joke It is so easy to prove it. Every one knew that it should be a Khalifa after Profet. Even you as a normal person know that. So why do u think that Mohammad pbuh forgot to mention his name? Obviously Allah chose and informed us by profet. Our brother has brought alot of hadith even from ur books. And answer me this Question that I think all the muslims believe that Imam Mahdi will come and Profet Issa comes too in the end of the time. So why didnt Allah mention Imam Mahdi in Quran? Who is Mahdi? He is from Imam Ali and Hazrate Fatimah. The Imamah is sooo clear but it needs open mind and heart to accept it.
Every hadith that supports Ali's claim is a weak Hadith according to Mr Hijab. He has put the truth under the Hijab it seems :-)
Find one that supports the 12 imamas. This is sick seriously. I can imagine what will be on the shiia communitY after 200-300 years: Ali is the right prophet. This is just a sect bro, wake up.
@@zotimediagroup3664 First of All, Ali is not a prophet but our First imam and successor of the prophet (sws)...
And Prophet (sws) said in a hadith :"After me there will be 12 man from Quraysh who will be my real successors"
Some sunni say that we Shia thinks that the 12 imam are infalibles and cannot commit sins so the sunni brothers thinks that we are commiting SHIRK.
But it's absolutly FALSE !
Yes we claim that the 12 imams are infalible but we don't COMPARE them to Allah (sws) so it's not Shirk !
Secoundly the Angels cannot commit sins so they are infalible !
Allah (swt) himsellf say that in the Holy Quran. So that is Shirk ? Did Allah (swt) make a mistake in the Quran ? NO !!
So this is not Shirk.
And also in your Sunni Books, it is written in a Sahih Hadith that the prophet (sws) take Ali, his daugter Fatima (wife of Ali) and the 2 sons of Ali (Hassan and Hussayn) and he (sws) said :"Oh Allah ! Purify me and my Ahlulbayt (holy family)".
The first imam is Ali (as) and then Hassan, Hussayn and their child...
So now i proved you that this not Shirk and it is even written in your Hadiths book my sunni brother !
So you should open your eyes !
Salam Alaykum 🙏🏼✔️
Hassan Raza bahahaha I a say so too
The Believer there’s nothing in the quran that says elect your muslim leader
Hijab's under the impression that when someone wants to asks him a question it means he has to ask them a question also even if it means he doesn't actually get around to answering the question they had to begin with. It's all part of his "obfuscate by talking the legs off of ppl & hope that no-one notices I'm dodging the question like a mad dodger for Dodgerbad".
The verses hijab quoted at the end in regards to 'Mowla' and 'Wali' are verses which are of a general basis. Whereas the connotation in the Hadith in regard to imam Ali a.s is specific. So it's very ignorant of him to use those verses in that manner in order to disprove the usage of the word. Especially when you consider how he disregarded the change in meaning of these words when it comes to context. These words have multiple meanings and the verses he quoted use these words in a different way than the Ahadith.
kazim shabbir not ignorant, nasibi.... huge difference
kazim كاظم your english is a mazing where do you live ? Where are you from? Dear
What haamid asked for was words of prophet but hijab answered with Quran, that's too off to be an answer for haamid's exact question
So according to Sunnis , as long as they say Abu bakrs caliphate isn't usul-I-din, that means they don't have to prove it from Quran or sunnah ...... so they are basically indirectly saying his caliphate is useless and is not obligatory for anyone to accept? So what's the argument all about?
abu Rafidhi lol
The difference is that Shi'ism claims that salvation relies on the belief in Imamah - which is unproven from the Quran. If it really is what will save someone from the fire on day of judgement, then why hasn't Allah specifically detailed Imamah in the Quran.
It's baffling that an entire religion has been built on the back of a concept that isn't present in the Quran and has been concocted by your scholars in their own books, talk about intellectual dishonesty. Remember folks that on the day of judgement you will be facing Allah on your own and you won't be able to blame anyone but your own selves for your ignorance.
@@Ahamdulillah1001you too remember sunni scholars have come of late ( last 30 years and especially last 5-8 years) to accept some core points of Shia. And have accepted that had it not been for shia we would have forgotten the Ahlulbaith and also Karbala.
@@Ahamdulillah1001 one of the foundations of Sunnism is believing in the four rightly guided caliphs, if you can't back it up, the foundation collapses.
Thank you!! Sayid Haamid I saw this guy on other debates make fun of the other Shia debaters where he might of chose random Shias that were not fully educated on Islam or simply lacked the debating skills and he took that and made us look wrong when he was wrong. And I don't think he'll know the truth because he doesn't want to and God gives al hidaya to whomever he wishes. Again thank you!!, you warmed my heart, God bless you.
Shia guy is legend, he proved from the Ahlaysunat books but he denied every point, Dear Hijab you need to research more and more
I am christian, Br Mohammed usually speaks well, but this one, he lost the intellectual battle completely, if i was a muslim id follow the shia ways.
I used to be a Christian...but the muslims had more logical arguments than me so one day I made up and I became Muslim...I never heard about Shia untill few years later..but when also I watched a lot of arguments I found out Shia made more arguments than Sunni..but today im not Shia or Sunni I'm MUSLIM who believes in anything LOGICAL...THIS VIDEO IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT MADE ME SHIA OF PBUH&F and also today I'll say to any Muslim...# taste your own MEDICINE # if the pbuh&f is wiser than us all...did he choose Ali? If election then how come no one knows ...so if it was you would you have appointed or by election and what's the consequences of not electing or by appointment...
hola isu for more information refer to sayed ammar nakshawani he is one of the best speaking English Shia speakers
@@linuxlegion4312(nakshwani is very good)I've listened to many so called scholars and I like them all both Sunni and Shia because they all must have positively impacted on people's lives... but all I know is we see history even in our generation and we know how many lies the rich media oppressors etc portray but all I know is any day anytime the Shia still have more logical agreement than Sunni... ....even though both have corrupted books lol... I'm a Shia of Allah Mohammed Ali and the good people both Muslim and non muslims
Bitch stop lying you're a botn shiite
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Hhhhhh
Btw Mohammed hijab said im a mawla but the difference is the context. Also the prophet said AFTER ME everytime he said wali or khalifa which proves its not about friendship or whatever.
Unknown Master what do you know Mean?
oky Belo go read bukhari where Omar said "Bakhin Bakhin ya Ali"
Congratularions ya Ali, it was not for just becoming a friend with Prophet SA it was for choosing him as The Ameer al Momineen after him.
You imam of mosque can't leave your local mosque without appointing anyone so how comes Prophet SA would leave ummah without a leader after him.
Hudreds of sahabat reported that yeah? Are you saying that they are hypocrites? Why would they report it in the first place? Lol
Its because they kneww what the prophet meant that time
Eyyy bruvvv you got the same namee
Why does the Sunni not answer the simple question? HAHA wow he got him easy! On the first question? Mashallah.
You seriously dont get it
@@FA-xz4co come on, answer it then.
@@FA-xz4co still waiting
@@FA-xz4co salam wa 3akaykum akhi, you gonna answer or-?
@@fahralyacoub8970 Lol you answer why they elected Ali ra. as a Caliph and why did it become legit?
It's basically questioning what you can't answer. Syiah can be very manipulative.
Clear winner. May Allah reward you
Shia guy won 100% 💯
58:55
Because Shia will give you references but you will be jumping around
Ifraz Ali it kind of feels like you are attacking yourself there. Ya ma’aweed
I'm proud that I'm shia , dude you could burn then with a few more questions that experts of these debates know , but you already did great and got them
1 Hour 10 minutes, 1 simple but significant question asked by Shi Guy, My Hijab, jump from corner to corner, not named one example, tried to give dawood prophet,as example but this was against to question
Dawood was chosen by Allah, question, who was NOT Chosen by Allah.
Sayyid Haamid.literally outstanding performance.
Fantastic arguments put forward by the Sayyid and the best of etiquette. The other side however used their same tactics as they always do whenever they are under a bit of pressure, changing the subject, bringing an extreme dramatic point which nobody believes and trying to change the subject to that.
Jazak Allah Br. Seyyed Haamid, mashaAllah for your patience in front of so much arrogance from the other side.
Hijab isn't understanding that khilafah and imamah are both intertwined and interrelated concepts. The Sunni understanding of khilafah is perverted/warped. The Shi'i interpretation of khilafah in Qur'an is accurate.
the Sayyid asked at 1:01:30 for Mohammed to give one case THE PROPHET said Khalifa, mawla or wali about anyone else other than Imam Ali, Mohammed failed to answer the question as he gave a Quranic verse, not a hadith. so Mohammed's point is invalid
Quran is more powerful than Hadith...
@@DarkDawn in this case is it too proof that the prophet said this things about anyone else than imam Ali. And he knew that he cant thats the reason he came with a quranic verse.
@@unknownmaster543 The Prophet pbuh said Beautiful things to Different companions and much more stronger than Imam Ali ra...
@@DarkDawn ahahahahahaha bring me oneee hadith or narration about anyone else. That the word mawla wali or khalifa is used.
@@unknownmaster543 I never said the same words were used for other companions...I said Different Beautiful words were used for Different companions...But the Prophet never ever said that " After my Death Ali is the Khaifa " He did say Ali ra is Maula and wali coz the people of Yemen were complaining about Ali ...
What shows real fraud is Hijab accusing Adam of being disingenuous while totally twisting the Arabic of the hadith quoted. When he says that these hadith are weak, he is saying he is superior to the scholars who validated the hadith.
Run Hijab you coward.
Umar AlFarooq who validitet the hadith?
@@jefejr3363 Sunni ulema
Shia Net is there any way we can contact Mr Haamid?
Well once again as a Christian I think your both wrong. However, again the Shia has the stronger arguments it seems to me, both sides were rude and interrupted the other. However, their seems to be clear evidence that Ali should have been Caliph and there are problems with the election or appointments of the earlier Caliphs. I Muhammad had a point on the issue of the imams about knowing everything and on the issue of the 12. On the whole at the half way mark I would have to give it to the Shia.
Antony Potsiar i recently converted to shia islam
Let's say he legitimate caliph that doesn't allow them to create a separate theology.
@@zamp7927 how's it going
@@zamp7927 Hey, could we have a update
Respectfully...Do you Christians think you are right ? JESUS PBUH appointed his successor as Peter Simon but you guys give more priority to Paul over him just like Sunnis think Abu Bakr is above Ali AS .. tell me isn't it wrong to allow a man like Paul who was enemy of Jesus pbuh all the years Jesus stayed on earth ..and when Jesus left Paul claims he saw Jesus in middle of journey and becomes the main companion??? Where are Actual companions of Jesus ?? They were tortured and killed by Roman kings for preaching real religion where as Paul just changed the whole law which Jesus brought to people..
Hijab argued that Ghadir was because many sahaba were in disagreement with Ali (in particular sunni scholars say Khaleed ibn Waleed) - so the myth that all sahaba liked each other doesn't stand!!!
What do you know about ghadir, why was Ali ra given status.
@@shakirbaba1707 the prophet wanted to make it clear that imam ali was his successor
@@jawadbooley9930 so you want that prophet didn't told everything clearly
@@shakirbaba1707 the prophet said everything clearly,
Man kunto maula fa hatha Aliyun maula
Whomsoever I am his master Ali is also his master
@@jawadbooley9930 what is the meaning of Maula
The Shia gentleman not only made coherent arguments providing credible evidence, he maintained his demeanour and was respectful which says a lot about the school of thought he represents. The Sunni followers however almost always in these debates communicate with ill temper and road rage it’s a shame.
Alhamdulillah and thank you for sharing, Insha’Allah this is guidance for those who need it as it was for me.
Without a doubt the the Shia evidences are much stronger that's why you'll find more Sunnis become Shias if they really do their own research rather than believing the lies from their so called scholars.
Why are these sunni people so scary? Do they have to keep the beard so long?
It's Rasul Allah's sunnah. Don't make fun of it.
Ass hole control your conversation to christianity in iran and Pakistan in iran only they increased by 5.7%per year
Tell your shia scholars to accept farid challenge to debate dick
Muhammad Hijabs beard is pretty well kept.
It’s sunnah lol shia do it too
Sayyid Haamid tackled him well . apart from all sect. both having good reasoning .
ALL I WANT TO TELL YOU , WE SHOULD FOLLOW THE SUNNAH FROM THE HOME OF RASOOL ALLAH .
If there is a strong hadith against sunnah they say oh this is weak bcz they can't stand long
Quran mentions imam and imamah 12 times. Divine imamah was granted to Ibraheem a.s and his descendents
The Sunni guy dodged the question, and tried to ridicule the Shia guy, and tried to divert the real question by taking the debate into totally different direction. It seemed the Sunni guy had a favorable audience, but Shia guy stood his ground.
and yes....mohammad hijab y u believe in 124000 prophets???????akhi there is 26 names of prophet mentioned in quran!!!
and see ur behaviour i doubt....abt ur knowledge....coz ur manner shows how literate and educated u r...
these 3 4 creatures....dont have respect and manners to be in public debate...
Shia + Quran = True Islam = True Peace.
The taller guy seems like an actor. Later I go see him having 100,000k followers on TH-cam this guy is an actor.
yes. Saudi paid
@@iberico8174 yes even the western nation hates the Shias. I was in prison in America as a Shia and the Sunni brother tried to kill mr many times Alhamduililah Allah swt looked out for me. By the end of my sentence the place I was at they all became Shia
@@AfG_313 MashaAllah brother thanks for sharing that experience. Shia in American jail, what a test! Glad you passed through and even more the other brothers joined the path of Allah and the Ahlulbayt.
@@iberico8174 thank you brother, without Muhammad pbuh and his family the Alhulbyt idk where I would be in life. Also another thing in American prisons there’s only Sunni books that’s all nothing else that’s why majorty of the inmates convert to Sunni Islam because they thing that’s the only one the day I got there I was the first to ask and order Shia books as soon as I did this it was a ripple effect a lot of black Americans would be like I thought there is only Sunni Islam what is this? I gave them only trustworthy inmates my books Alhamduililah one by one they became Shia the whole pod became Shia then the whole prison became Shia. A war happened tho on both sides a lot of ppl got stabbed and died it came at a huge cost it’s always the Sunni acting tough anywhere I got transferred to Alhamduililah many prisons frm CA to NY are now majorty Shia
Geat debate/discussion. Hijab lost control quickly
Not really
Again your arguments have been proven very quickly false.
For instance if we accept that Ali should've been the first caliph, it still doesn't prove the legitimacy of the 12 imams.
Furthermore, all of the attributes and the claims regarding the imams can't be true because they DIRECTLY contradict the Quran.
Additionally, pointing to false proofs of information that the sahabas and that the wife of the prophet s.a.w. were believers, in the first case, one of you is the kufar, either the sahabas or the ones who claim, and as the prophet himself declared them (and not you) as the best people, the evidence hugely points (with undoubtedly many proofs) that the sahabas were indeed the best people and meaning whoever claims to invalidate their faith is himself a kufar.
We haven't even gone into the quran just the sunah and every day claims of the shia people.
This is a clear warning against Shia teachings and beliefs.
You haven't been looking for the truth in the earnest way and that is why you're incapable of producing your proofs.
Greska Greska there’s no proof that says after the prophet PBUH died it should go to an election
if you think you are right then why Mohammad Hijab didn't upload this video on his channel. only the videos in which he has dominance he uploads
Ali Naqi he did you liar
Hijab Couldnt bring one proof or even One indication! to the khilafa of abu bakr.
Soon as one shia brother actually starts debating, hijab gets personal, becomes a lawyer and exposes his real side.
Alhmd lillah in this debate Truth prevailed and falsehood perished.
May Allah grant our sunni brothers the baseera and rescue you them from the darkness and fantasy that theyre in
Lights Ornament nor the Shia in relation to Imam Ali RA
The evidence on the accuser
@@imranahmed1542 you have references in musnad Ahmad bin Hanbal where it shows Ghadeer Khumm.
Ali Ghais you have referesence in alistibsar, where mutah became forntiden. We dont follow the same ideas of ghadeer. Look at twelvershia.net and write ghadeer.
Rewatched this.... Sayed Hamed gave them a lesson lol.
23:00 this is the turning point
bro while watching, HIjab got too emotional and start disrespecting Haamid
whenever a salafi is cornered he start trowning the word "weak" everywhere.
i pray some among the sunni audience begin to doubt their false indoctrination and do further searching of their soul and acquire more knowledge which will take them to real Islam. Real Islam is only REAL, when we follow Sunath Allah and the Sunnah of His Messenger.
Ronald Joseph Shias literally read the same Quran as Sunni, which if you watched the debate you’d know or else Hijab wouldn’t ask for Quranic verses if we had different Qurans. Majority of Shia scholars say anal sex is haram and forbidden and even those that accept it, although be it not many scholars, say that it is extremely makrooh and better to restrain from it. As for the paintings of the Ahl ul Bayt, it is completely forbidden to imagine what they looked like and should only be described with Noor(light) as most depictions do in Shia representations.
Hijab tried to run away like a snake many times...
He is not expert in shia muslims why your shia scholars accept farid challenge to debate
hijab is no able to defend the khilafat of abubakar umar usman appointed by ALLAH
Truly said
And where did allah appointed Ali RA? And Ali gave allegiance to abubakar RA that is slap on faces of Shia even Ali RA don’t agree with you☹️
Ali Haidar lair the Hadith did not say that
Oh Oh
Firstly, many events show succession of imam Ali (as). Simply Ghadir e khum, Musa and Harun Hadith and many more which both sects agree too in a general sense.
Secondly, "And no doubt after the death of the Prophet (S) we were informed that the Ansar disagreed with us and gathered in the shed of Bani Sa'da. Ali and Zubair and whoever was with them, opposed us, while the emigrants gathered with Abu Bakr"
Saheeh al-Bukhari, Book 86, Hadith 57 - (part of a lengthy narration)
This proves not only did Imam Ali (as) not give allegiance to Abu bakr, (unless they’re forced him), but he and his companion opposed them in your own sahih.
did sunnis ever say that the khilafat has to be appointed by ALLAH ?? Which we don't
that shias belief so don't use straw man fallacy against us
The SHIA GUY WON. NO DOUBT About IT. the Sunni guy should convert.
To what to craziness
Wow, the Shia brother speaks English, Arabic, and the poetic language of Persian, just ask Rumi, Khayyam, and Ferdowsi. Google "most poetic language in the world" and its Persian above ALL languages. He's extremely knowledgeable, and very calm. Would like to see him more.
I was Sunni but after this Video i reverted to shiasm Alhamdulillah
after this I do not believe hijab
This debate was over at around the 11th Minute. "I follow Allah and the Sunnah of the prophet" Ghadeer Khumm is the most narrated event in Islamic History....and wahabis reject it. Plain and simple.
Can anyone give me reference for ahadith quoyed by shia brother. Respect from your sunni brother. jazak Allah.
saqib aftab which Hadith? He stated quite a lot?
Hijab avoided the question that matters. The Shia gave him information that will lead to the proof that imam Ali should have been the caliphate right after the prophet, which will then lead to the rest of the imams. It is clear hijab was avoiding it.
wow, I'm not even Muslim and I can acknowledge Hijab got destroyed here.
Utterly shameful display of desperate showmanship by Hijab.
He hasn't faced the best shia who knows his Sunnis sect books very well I know we're I can smash any Sunnis in a debate
@@aliabbasi2456
أثبت من القرآن الكريم
بآيات محكمة
انه هناك أئمة بعد النبي محمد صلى الله عليه و آله هم اثنا عشر إماما وبعد من نسل الحسين عليه السلام
وليس الحسن عليه السلام
And hijab has uploaded a short clip of this video with the caption Shia refuse by a Sunni something like that.
can someone please provide the reference to the hadith of "Harun was to Moses" that was used in the debate?
Sahih Muslim 2404 a
Sahih al-Bukhari 4416
@@mohamedalakashi7507 thanks man
Guys if either of them do wrong make du'a for them! In shaa Allah
Allah will have mercy upon both of them and increase them both in knowledge They are BOTH my brothers whether sunni or shi'a they are my brothers in humanity May Allah bless both of them🙃
M. HIjab tries to act too smart when he tries to refute the narration where the Prophet said, "Ali is my Caliph". He said, this menas Ali is the Prophet's leader ie leading him.
Using this same infantile logic, I guess RasoolAllah means the Prophet is Allah's Messenger ie. the Prophet delivers message to Allah.
I say the Prophet is my Rasool; Allah says the Prophet is His rasool. I guess Allah and I have the same prophet then.
Go figure #SunniLogic
Shia Man
Sunni Logic, basic concepts:
If Allah is All Knowing, All Aware:
1. Why would Abu Bakr Radiallahu Anhu be placed as a Khalifa immediately after our beloved prophets passing? Would Allah not be able to give direction to Ali Radhiallu Anhu or Abu Bakr Radiallahu Anhu and give them specific order of khalifa? 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th?
2. If Allah is All Knowing - would He allow history to play out as it did in error? Seriously? Think, basic logic. If Allah is All Aware - why would He allow history to play out as He did?
3. Are Shias assuming that history should be changed? Could have been changed? Is to change? What is the concept?
4. Lastly, who are these 12 imams that are referenced and where are they mentioned as divinely accepted/appointed/chosen?
This isn’t an argument of whether Sunni or Shia are correct? If history played out the way it did...did Allah allow it? If so, what’s the argument?
And the point when he said that Shia claims imam have same level knowledge as Allah.
I mean since when we came to know the limit of Allahs knowledge...
We know the imams are given 9/10 knowledge from the Quran thus why the imams could know about different things...
For example the very famous chemist Jabir ibn hayyan
Jābir’s teacher, Ja’far as-Sadiq (6th imam of Shia), inspired his interest in alchemy. Jābir wrote “my master Ja'far as-Sadiq taught me about calcium, evaporation, distillation and crystallisation and everything I learned in alchemy was from my master”. Jābir drew inspiration from a range of people, including Plato, Aristotle, Pythagoras and Socrates, as well as Egyptian and Greek alchemists.
Hassan Turi astarfighullah where did you get this?
Muslukgood this is like saying why would Allah let the holocaust happen and we all agree that this was bad but it wasn't an error by Allah. Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim: Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) said to Ali Ibn Abi Talib "Oh Ali, are you not pleased that you for me, is like what Harun was to Musa (A.S.) but there are no prophets after me." The point of the Imama is to admit the imams were chosen rightfully but Allah tests us now to see if we honour his and the prophets decision to appoint the 12 imams.
@@Arab.Mesopotamian Then you have to accept the same for Hazrat Umar r.a when the Prophet Muhammad pbuh said If there had to be a prophet after me it would be Umar r.a .
Why play double standards.
لَا يُخْصَمُ مَنْ يَحْتَجُّ بِالْحَقِّ
الخليفة الأول علي
One who argues by truth is not defeated
The First caliph Ali
I too Alhamdullilah am now a shia 🥲
A great one to add to this debate is the reminder of when a sunni prays min x 5 times a day. At the end of their pray they are reminded of Ahlulbayt, no mention of companions. This is the true order, ALLAH, Mohammed SAWA, Ahlulbayt and companions.
Allahumma salli ’alaa Muhammadiw wa ’alaa aali Muhammadin, kamaa sallayta ’alaa Ibraheema wa ’alaa aali Ibraheema, innaKa Hameedum Majeed. Allahumma baarik ’alaa Muhammadiw wa ’alaa aali Muhammadin, kamaa baarakta ’alaa Ibraheema wa ‘alaa aali Ibraheema, innaKa Hameedum Majeed’
This is only one sign there are many many other signs.
If your reality is determined and dictated by evidence, then I suggest you forget everything you think you know and have been told about the shia and do your own research and go to their books and not their ppl.
Ahlulbayt are the truth 🥲
Find them and you will find ALLAH.
58:26 Hijab akhlaq calling the Sayyid a liar and of taqiyyah. Starts giving excuses he didn't bring a phone. Can't blame that on the other person.
Hijab: Don't interrupt me. I let you speak.
Constantly interrupts.
Sunni guys logic “If the Quran doesn’t say I am alive in England then I am not alive in England”
What is the reference in the book of nahju al bala8a that ali says the quote mohamad hijab used at 1:05:30 ?
He talks bullshit, he can't answer the first question in all that video and is just circling around that all the time. Shia wins!
You mean about the caliph after the Prophet sav?
The guy in the blue got hammered by Jay smith blue guy was rude and poor speaker