I started doing this last year after first watching this and other videos from Marcus and now can't imagine hotting an iron forward in my stance. This has given me a consistent draw and so much more distance. The quality of the ball strike playing it back has improved ten-fold - thx Marcus!
This is such good stuff for many golfers. I discovered this years ago after having problems with fat shots. Was just a natural change that made sense to me. I have a few friends that are now using this style as they have gotten older. They gain more speed and have less stress physically. It doesn't work for everybody, but as Marcus says, do what works for you.
Totally agree. The ball placement is different for everyone. Amateurs who try duplicating someone else’s ball placement and swing usually do not succeed.
I’ve always done this thank you for helping me understand how i hit it high from back of stance and it feels much easier to not fat the ball. I also hit it so much straighter with your technique
Amazing. I practiced this for 2 weeks in my garage without hitting a ball prior to a vacation golf trip. Concentrating only on ball position and swing path, my slice was virtually gone only a few bad shots and my I noticed my distance increased
Let’s be clear… you are a rear poster / back foot hitter. The other options are Center of pelvis, pivot or front poster/front foot hitter..⛳️🏌🏻♂️ You’re Domo. I also will come in to play you’re probably left eye dominant so I like the ball back. And then there’s a mandatory two-stroke penalty from playing from the left side of the ball! L O L.
Marcus, Thanks for the explanation on the driver low point & ball position for the Irons. It make sense to keep the same low point and just set your ball back with your irons. This make so much sense. Like always great content. Thanks, Germain
just from watching your other videos and understanding your technique, I came to the conclusion that I would have to move the ball position back. Driver in the middle and irons further back. I'm excited to try this. It never made sense to me to try to hit it from the inside when the ball is forward, like everyone says to do. It always struck me as geometrically impossible to do that. But I've been trying to do it anyway, and always slicing.
Thanks Marcus. I enjoyed this video. I have been moving the ball about in my stance for a while, taking the club back on the inside and then swinging through on the same line. For irons centre of stance seems to suit me but funnily enough Driver inside my heel at address seems to suit me, further back and I hook. Always a work in progress. Alistair
i started playing the ball back recently from thinking how i used to shoot a slapshot when i played hockey and the puck would be more back of center to kinda hit down on it i guess. so now i have very good contact and shots but the ball is a more low draw but consistent and i don't have to think too much about the action just like in hockey, take it back and hit it.
I think the driver is the easiest club to hit well... it's teed up, on level turf and you get alot of time to make a big release. the irons I find alot harder... usually an unlevel lie, on the ground and maybe not even a good lie. I enjoy hearing your logic about your ball position.... I was wondering that myself. I will try a ball position for the irons alittle back in my stance and see if that helps my release timing.
Think more about the turf than the ball. If we start by brushing the ground without a golfball and then try to bring that motion to our golfball it often becomes easier.
I'm hitting my driver great now making my driver swing like my baseball seeing. It works for me. But I do have to much lateral shift which works for my irons. But I know it's making me hit down. What is the best swing thought to keep behind the ball. My low point is well behind the ball but probably doesn't stay there.
The low point needs to stay behind the ball when you reach impact. A baseball swing is more horizontal and makes us move around a lot. Maybe this video can help: th-cam.com/video/4dqleemX22I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ZeKIBoZv6pBesqkS
I always seem to have the ball creep forward and then wonder why the ball fades more than I like. You have explained it very well. I have moved the ball back with good success but I must focus on staying more centered for it to work for me. I watched Rory Mcilory using a 44.25" and hitting bombs all week at the Players. I see you use a 44.5" length driver. Is going shorter something you recommend?
I use a shorter driver because I'm lazy. It's easier to release and control and I can live without the 10 yards I loose. I think more golfers should try it but if you want maximum distance it's not to recommend.
Hi Marcus, I can see your point re the ball position, but from the camera angle on your video, it also looks like your head and chest are looking even further behind the ball. Is this a "trick of the camera" or is it true to say this..? Once again, brilliant instruction my young friend. Even at over 70 years old, I am still learning, and you are a great teacher. It's a pity you weren't around when I was younger and I could have made even more from your methods...
Hi. Some of it can be camera angle. My chest points more towards my hands (slightly forward from ball with irons) but my head leans a little backwards and even more hitting a driver.
Does your ball position change from say a pw versus 5 iron? Also do you keep the same stance width with all clubs or do you have a system? Sorry for the many questions. Im really trying to learn your swing. Ive almost got your driver swing down and ive gained 40 yds without it drawing
Patrick, I normally don't change ball position or stance between irons. It's more the kind of shot I like to hit that forces a change. Any change you like to do will take time and we need to keep going good days and bad days. Keep trying. 👍
so i stuggle with hitting behind the ball because i dont move fwd through the swing . if i open my stance and move the ball back in my stance this will help me come from the inside and i can open the face a touch to get the ball more up in the air ?
It will only help if you also calibrate your landing so the intended landing in the ground is the same as the actual landing. Watch this: th-cam.com/video/6nTk2W-AbIw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=9eV9zW3n2OGLx9AV
Question...Would a good practice drill with the driver be to tee the ball where you would strike up at the ball but keep your eye and starting point with driver at the low point in the swing? That would mean you are not looking at the teed ball but at the low point and your swing would do the rest and you would feel where the contact would be made? Just thinking. I really like your methodology being a left handed golfer myself your videos are perfect for me. I have a terrible driver slice only and I think your method will be the remedy I need.
Hi Jason. There are so many different ways you can learn this. I think you need to try, it sounds like a drill that could work. In the end we need to feel the club going to the low point and up again but if this takes you there, go for it. 👍
I think we need to move forward in the golf swing. Getting stuck on the trail foot is not the best. We need to separate how we hit driver and irons, they are not the same. I think of it as two different sports. Maybe this video could help: th-cam.com/video/LqHT97sEJIc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2n6gKWvj77Y5ZXLH
You are so annoying and laid back about golf, hypnotic. Stop being so good.....please. 😂 7 hcap golfer and similar body shape to yourself and have learned a great deal watching you.
Yes we all have a swing to a point is affected by our flexibility and body shape and size and age. A good example I had my irons lie ma made 1 degree flat. Have lost my high over draw. Now much straighter. Work in progress
@@GolfwithMarcusEdblad Thanks, I thought it should be like that so I did that this morning, Found 3 more fairways than normal. But my big problem at the moment is , Not every swing but I'm thinking too much about in to out swing and I end up too much in and it goes too much out, So instead Chest pointing at 12.00O'clock and swing going at of 1.00 -2.00 O'clock it goes up to 3 O'clock. Still need some work, but very happy with the progress. Thanks for your insight and willingness to share.
They all do it a little different/personal so I can't t say. Normal is that draw players have the ball a little more back and fade players have it a little bit forward.
@@GolfwithMarcusEdblad I could go on and on all day about the contradictory information out there. Its crazy the "PGA Pros" that we get this info from that are really -5 or more handicaps. But I like your straight forward answers of this is my ball position what works for me may not be best for you. That's a guy I could trust. Just give ideas or suggestions, there's really not non negotiables of a swing. If it were the case guys like Jim Furyk would never made it
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i just bought a bag of 3.25" tees today. I found one on the range yesterday and was crushing my drives with a beautiful draw. Thank you. Thank you!
That is awesome! Keep going. 👍
I started doing this last year after first watching this and other videos from Marcus and now can't imagine hotting an iron forward in my stance. This has given me a consistent draw and so much more distance. The quality of the ball strike playing it back has improved ten-fold - thx Marcus!
Great job. We all need to find the right pieces in our swing puzzle 👍
Being an older golfer (58) the open stance has taken a lot of strain off my lower back. More please Marcus.
I will keep going. 😁
I'm finding it easier with a closed stance? I guess if it works it works.
This is such good stuff for many golfers. I discovered this years ago after having problems with fat shots. Was just a natural change that made sense to me. I have a few friends that are now using this style as they have gotten older. They gain more speed and have less stress physically. It doesn't work for everybody, but as Marcus says, do what works for you.
We all need to find the recipe for success. Copying someone else will not work. 👍
Just discovered your channel. Your approach is refreshing.
Totally agree. The ball placement is different for everyone. Amateurs who try duplicating someone else’s ball placement and swing usually do not succeed.
Douglas, I 100% agree. 👍
I’ve always done this thank you for helping me understand how i hit it high from back of stance and it feels much easier to not fat the ball. I also hit it so much straighter with your technique
Nice to here. I am glad you found my channel. 👍
Amazing. I practiced this for 2 weeks in my garage without hitting a ball prior to a vacation golf trip. Concentrating only on ball position and swing path, my slice was virtually gone only a few bad shots and my I noticed my distance increased
Good work, Sir. 👍
Let’s be clear… you are a rear poster / back foot hitter. The other options are Center of pelvis, pivot or front poster/front foot hitter..⛳️🏌🏻♂️ You’re Domo. I also will come in to play you’re probably left eye dominant so I like the ball back. And then there’s a mandatory two-stroke penalty from playing from the left side of the ball! L O L.
Marcus,
Thanks for the explanation on the driver low point & ball position for the Irons. It make sense to keep the same low point and just set your ball back with your irons. This make so much sense. Like always great content.
Thanks,
Germain
Glad to help. 😁
Thanks Marcus driver low point further back (deeper)down out and up has a high draw and long.Many thanks
I'm just glad I can help. 😁
just from watching your other videos and understanding your technique, I came to the conclusion that I would have to move the ball position back. Driver in the middle and irons further back. I'm excited to try this. It never made sense to me to try to hit it from the inside when the ball is forward, like everyone says to do. It always struck me as geometrically impossible to do that. But I've been trying to do it anyway, and always slicing.
Go for it. Just remember to reales early and give the club time to square up before impact. 👍
you're thinking outside the box, and I approve!! You got my subscription! Thanks for the great content!
It's inside my box but very outside the normal box. 👍
Thanks Marcus. I enjoyed this video. I have been moving the ball about in my stance for a while, taking the club back on the inside and then swinging through on the same line. For irons centre of stance seems to suit me but funnily enough Driver inside my heel at address seems to suit me, further back and I hook. Always a work in progress. Alistair
Thanks Alistair. Lets keep working for the progress. 👍
i started playing the ball back recently from thinking how i used to shoot a slapshot when i played hockey and the puck would be more back of center to kinda hit down on it i guess. so now i have very good contact and shots but the ball is a more low draw but consistent and i don't have to think too much about the action just like in hockey, take it back and hit it.
Great job. Next step is to learn to hit it higher or lower when you want to. Watch this:
th-cam.com/video/0l_6nO7Ehok/w-d-xo.htmlsi=rrWqtRIoeHbG-buk
The key words for me was I swing out and to the target. Thank you
Skip the target, just swing out. 👍
I have tried this and it works great for me. I’m making some great contact with irons and driver.
Excellent! Love to hear it. 👍
So helpful- thanks so much - blessings!!!
Glad it was helpful!👍
I think the driver is the easiest club to hit well... it's teed up, on level turf and you get alot of time to make a big release. the irons I find alot harder... usually an unlevel lie, on the ground and maybe not even a good lie. I enjoy hearing your logic about your ball position.... I was wondering that myself. I will try a ball position for the irons alittle back in my stance and see if that helps my release timing.
Think more about the turf than the ball. If we start by brushing the ground without a golfball and then try to bring that motion to our golfball it often becomes easier.
I'm hitting my driver great now making my driver swing like my baseball seeing. It works for me. But I do have to much lateral shift which works for my irons. But I know it's making me hit down. What is the best swing thought to keep behind the ball. My low point is well behind the ball but probably doesn't stay there.
The low point needs to stay behind the ball when you reach impact. A baseball swing is more horizontal and makes us move around a lot. Maybe this video can help:
th-cam.com/video/4dqleemX22I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ZeKIBoZv6pBesqkS
Marcus is your technique close to Channel lock set up? They look simular
@@Builders-fo9xc They look similar but we use different power sources, set-up and aim.
I always seem to have the ball creep forward and then wonder why the ball fades more than I like. You have explained it very well. I have moved the ball back with good success but I must focus on staying more centered for it to work for me.
I watched Rory Mcilory using a 44.25" and hitting bombs all week at the Players. I see you use a 44.5" length driver. Is going shorter something you recommend?
I use a shorter driver because I'm lazy. It's easier to release and control and I can live without the 10 yards I loose. I think more golfers should try it but if you want maximum distance it's not to recommend.
How can I reach out to you sir@@GolfwithMarcusEdblad
Hi Marcus, I can see your point re the ball position, but from the camera angle on your video, it also looks like your head and chest are looking even further
behind the ball. Is this a "trick of the camera" or is it true to say this..? Once again, brilliant instruction my young friend. Even at over 70 years old, I am still
learning, and you are a great teacher. It's a pity you weren't around when I was younger and I could have made even more from your methods...
Hi. Some of it can be camera angle. My chest points more towards my hands (slightly forward from ball with irons) but my head leans a little backwards and even more hitting a driver.
Brilliant absolutely brilliant thankyou 💕💖💯
You’re welcome 😊
Does your ball position change from say a pw versus 5 iron? Also do you keep the same stance width with all clubs or do you have a system? Sorry for the many questions. Im really trying to learn your swing. Ive almost got your driver swing down and ive gained 40 yds without it drawing
Patrick, I normally don't change ball position or stance between irons. It's more the kind of shot I like to hit that forces a change.
Any change you like to do will take time and we need to keep going good days and bad days. Keep trying. 👍
I would like to see side view of your swing to see how far you are from the ball
There is side views in many videos.
so i stuggle with hitting behind the ball because i dont move fwd through the swing . if i open my stance and move the ball back in my stance this will help me come from the inside and i can open the face a touch to get the ball more up in the air ?
It will only help if you also calibrate your landing so the intended landing in the ground is the same as the actual landing. Watch this:
th-cam.com/video/6nTk2W-AbIw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=9eV9zW3n2OGLx9AV
Question...Would a good practice drill with the driver be to tee the ball where you would strike up at the ball but keep your eye and starting point with driver at the low point in the swing? That would mean you are not looking at the teed ball but at the low point and your swing would do the rest and you would feel where the contact would be made? Just thinking. I really like your methodology being a left handed golfer myself your videos are perfect for me. I have a terrible driver slice only and I think your method will be the remedy I need.
Hi Jason. There are so many different ways you can learn this. I think you need to try, it sounds like a drill that could work. In the end we need to feel the club going to the low point and up again but if this takes you there, go for it. 👍
How ya doin', brother? Prayers!
Hi. I think it's going in the right direction but I'm far from a comeback. Thanks. 🙏
Now I feel bad I asked.....I am that once a day guy. 😱
Don't feel bad. 👍
I cant get to my front side .Hit my Driver good .Can you hit irons of back foot like Driver and ex tend arms.
I think we need to move forward in the golf swing. Getting stuck on the trail foot is not the best. We need to separate how we hit driver and irons, they are not the same. I think of it as two different sports.
Maybe this video could help:
th-cam.com/video/LqHT97sEJIc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2n6gKWvj77Y5ZXLH
You are so annoying and laid back about golf, hypnotic.
Stop being so good.....please. 😂
7 hcap golfer and similar body shape to yourself and have learned a great deal watching you.
If we meet one day you will meet that relaxed dude in real life. 😁
Funny but I have always thought that one of the problems with golf is just that there are too many tools and they are all slightly different .
Yes, it makes it extra hard. 😊
Swedens Moe Norman.
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Is that an auto flex shaft?
Hi Louis. It's an old pull out from a ping driver 2013. Regular flex and 44,5 inch.
@@GolfwithMarcusEdblad thanks!
I tried the ‘back a bit from centre’ and it worked very well 7 to GW. 5 and 6 needed to be centre. Works for me thanks Marcus.
Great job John. It's a little personal and we need to find what's best for us...
Exactly!
Yes we all have a swing to a point is affected by our flexibility and body shape and size and age. A good example I had my irons lie ma made 1 degree flat. Have lost my high over draw. Now much straighter. Work in progress
where is your chest aliened at address if your ball is back? is it at the flag? and where is the face on iron facing at address?
My chest is aiming at the ball but the club face is always a bit open at set up.
@@GolfwithMarcusEdblad Thanks, I thought it should be like that so I did that this morning, Found 3 more fairways than normal. But my big problem at the moment is , Not every swing but I'm thinking too much about in to out swing and I end up too much in and it goes too much out, So instead Chest pointing at 12.00O'clock and swing going at of 1.00 -2.00 O'clock it goes up to 3 O'clock. Still need some work, but very happy with the progress. Thanks for your insight and willingness to share.
Do the pros do this with ball position
They all do it a little different/personal so I can't t say. Normal is that draw players have the ball a little more back and fade players have it a little bit forward.
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Ball position isnt a 1 size fits all and the industry knows this
I agree on the first part but I sadly think there is to many instructions on ball position that tell you that you “must” do this.
@@GolfwithMarcusEdblad I could go on and on all day about the contradictory information out there. Its crazy the "PGA Pros" that we get this info from that are really -5 or more handicaps. But I like your straight forward answers of this is my ball position what works for me may not be best for you. That's a guy I could trust. Just give ideas or suggestions, there's really not non negotiables of a swing. If it were the case guys like Jim Furyk would never made it
I agree 100%.