I Hate Your Deck #46 Jon Irenicus v Tymna Esior Wardling v Satsuki v Hallar | MTG Commander Gameplay
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Larry is the best and I’d like to start a petition to always have him in every episode.
agreed
Pot, it's me, kettle
Absolutely!
YES. Lynch's new and improved co host?
they would work perfect, Lynch-Good & Larry-Evil lol!
the betrayal in this game had me dying from laughing so hard but damn the feel bads are real for me and I'm not even in the game
Second
Yeah john made lynch too much dirty, he had no hand, no board, no commander (which is vital for that deck) and he took him out of the game like that, betraying the promise to him as if that wasn't enaught
Whenever larrys in the thumbnail, we know they going to be playing some magic magic.
Lol. Idk but this made me think of the book catch-22. W major major. Who became a major. Major major major.
🤭
I see Larry's mustache, I click!
no cap tho
You mean scary Larry's nose that's hairy?
So you wouldn't watch if loveable Larry wasn't there? I highly doubt that.
@@mkayralph2368 Cap is the same amount of letters as lie. Don't be ignorant or try to make a fad catch on. It won't... Do you walk around saying on fleek too?
9:50 already making lynch mad
So Fletching is the feathers or tails of an arrow so a fletcher is someone who attaches the feathers to the arrow.
By definition a Fletcher is an arrow maker
and for anyone curious, the act of putting arrow to string is "nocking"
Thank you guys for saving me from typing this
Not to be confused with a felcher...
@@zacharyalexander5878 Thank you for spelling that out because I was always under the impression it was pronounced notching. I learned something new 🙂
The triple deal betrayal passing around of Jon is the type of commander energy I’m all about. It’s also amazing to see how everyone takes it so well and has a great time. Best commander show!
Y'all need to do an episode with everyone playing commander decks with the twist that you're actually playing Arch enemy against Larry. With him starting at 60 life.
I'm gonna put this here since a few people have asked about the goaded creature:
Jon Irenicus' ability creates a continuous effect that goads the creature by the person handing it off. It can be goaded by more than one player at a time.
701.38c: A creature can be goaded by multiple players. Doing so creates additional combat requirements.
Goad says that the creature has to attack, and has to attack a player other than you IF ABLE.
But! Since it was goaded and had to attack, and was goaded by each player it could attack, then the attacks were still legal (since it wasn't able to attack a player it wasn't goaded by)
Sssss
Seems legit. Jon Irenicus' ability goads the creature for the rest of the game, in which case, using the rule you've cited, it would continue adding attacking requirements until Larry's turn where he would not be able to attack anyone. How interesting, in which case Lynch would have not taken the 10 from Larry attacking. Also, good on Larry to know that the white background would not give Jon Irenicus double strike because it uses the word Own not Control.
@@AlexDuWaldt It doesn't matter that Larry hadn't goaded it yet since he was the one attacking. It had to attack, everyone that Larry could attack had goaded it, so he was able to attack any of them since there were no non-goading player eligible to be attacked.
I was looking for this comment
Thank you! I had been wondering about this exact interaction.
One of the most fun games of commander I've seen. Sean really fits in so well here.
Thank you for picking John I’m from ky about 2 hour drive from lexington and I was so stoked to see this guy representing our state 💙🙏🏻
little did we know, John horn leg horn was a dirty backstabber
We need more sean and larry
You will.
Great game guys. Just a heads up, unless the attacking creature has trample, once blockers are declared that damage is prevented even if the blocker is removed from combat. Jon would have only dealt 2 damage from his citizens at 50:42.
hands down, simply the best commander playgroup content on the interwebs!
After watching I hate your deck for a long time. I think Larry may be the smartest deck builder to ever be on the show.
He’s pretty darn smart. I like to take his advice.
It's funny how everyone loves Larry.
He seems to be an universally liked person, very interesting.
PS.: I also like him. He's great.
and yet, everybody hates chris
I would love to see a jank episode of IHYD. Like decks that are so dumb that they shouldn't win but they do. Example: I have a Oloro deck, but it is a chair tribe theme. Stuff like that.
Can i please have a list of the chair tribal? i need to know more
+1 on Benoit's question. You left us with a question that needs to be answered
Lynch's reaction to Larry at the beginning was great, LOL
Fletching as far as I know is putting the feathers / flights on the end of an arrow. It the job of a fletcher to attach these and prepare them 😎👍🏻
yep. Fletching is basically making arrows. Putting a arrow to a bowstring is nocking an arrow
So. Story time. I'm on my lunch break, eating a basic ass sandwich, thinking about how bland it is. I clicked into this episode to get some quality entertainment, still eating my basic ass sandwich. Ten minutes in and Larry does the thing (#nospoilers) and Lynch gets so salty that my sandwich actually gets some flavor. Thank you all for your contribution to my lunch.
Fletching is the array of feathers on an arrow. A fletcher is someone who crafts arrows derived from a French term for “arrow maker”
Yeah this playgroup is lit haha the constant banter and overall energy was top tier Lynch definitely expect more of Sean and Larry 💪🏼🙏🏼🙌🏼
"That'll teach you to pass your commander around"
lmaooo
Great game. Returning it as soon as he could was only implied so not a betrayal, a technicality. Magic is very specific about wording and he did eventually return it and that method wasn't specified either. :)
When Sean made the offer he specified John returning it at the end of his turn John agreed to the deal but never made any changes to the deal so yes it was a betrayal. Larry did alot of talking but when John said yes he agreed to the deal it was very clear that at the end of his turn it was supposed to go back to Lynch.
I believe I gave him permission because it felt like a fun thing to watch. I had fun. I think that counts.
@@IHateYourDeck Yeah this ONLY works because you chose to be cool about it, and it did make for an entertaining game, so I don't even blame you. I just hope other people don't incorporate this kind of play in their playgroups.
I'm all about making deals with technicalities like "If you let me hit you for 2 damage I won't attack you for the next two turns (But I'll combo off on my turn and kill you with noncommander damage)" or "If you let me draw from this Rhystic Study trigger then I won't target your commander with any removal (but I'll cast Blasphemous Act)."
But this is something else entirely. This is "If you give that to me then I'll give it back to Lynch (ha ha, i didn't say when! i'll give it to Larry instead, and then when I get it back I'll kill you with it) which is not the same thing as my first two examples. Like, at all. This isn't cleverly wording a deal, this is being shitty and breaking the deal and using really dubious logic to justify it.
Again, I like how you handled it, but I also hope people don't take this as an example of acceptable dealbreaking.
Malkovich…. Malkovich…. Malkovich. That play against Larry was brutal.
Why is Lynch’s audio not in the center channel? on headphones every time the camera cuts to him, his voice always sounds displaced and it’s weird; everyone else seemed fine.
Great game though
This was a really fun episode :D I don't know about hating any of the decks but i loved the hilarity of Irenicus going around the table LMAO!
omg, I was building a background deck where I steal commanders, get background value, then sac'em so I love this background love!
Larry won from just casting two commanders with mana split from a Jeweled Lotus imo
The power of the mustache! 💪🔥
As a fellow Larry, KLWP has been happening to me since i started playing magic, guess it's in the Name lol
a true commander game where you didnt iron out the rules of the deal so it bites you in the ass.
Amazing backstabbing and laughs this episode
What an amazing episode
More Satsuki representation! Love playing sagas on Arena with that commander
top 10 anime betrayals! :)
This is it. The holy grail. Scary Larrys origin story
I know it’s all in fun, but when I make deals in Commander it’s set in stone. If someone breaks a deal, I’ll never trust them again.
I gave him permission. I thought it was funny. Having fun for me or seeing dumb fun stuff happen I believe is part of the game.
It didn’t ruin the game, I just think a deal is a deal. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Lynch be like "I hate my deck".
I'm super impressed with Lynch staying cool. Wouldn't have blamed him for being salty, that was some next level bullshit dealbreaking.
I was watching this and thinking, “you know it would be hilarious 😂 if lynch died to his own commander.” And then it happened😂😂 11 out of 10
Gifting his commander is the better play regardless, since it's goaded for the rest of the game, every other player that gifts it, can't attack him with it, and the more players who acquire it, makes them also immune to the damage, because the goad counts for each player who gifts him, not just Lynch. Makes for some interesting plays, and if he ran bounce cards, he could always bounce the commander back to his hand if anyone board wipes or refuses the deal. It's a rather clever way to bypass a lot of problems, and when bounced, it would reset the goads on it.
Fletching is the process of attaching the stabilizers to the arrow whether it be feathers plastic etc..
Jon Irenicus seems like a much more fun commander than he was as a villain in BG 2 ;-). Seriously considering playing him at some point now.
Hallar is my favorite deck that I own and I love seeing it here!
Fletching is the act of cutting and attaching feathers to the arrow 👌
Scary larry back at it baby! Love to see it
At 37:04 could Jon have attacked anyone? Wasn't it goaded by every player by that point?
I was told it was a replacement effect. It only tracks last person that it goads. A judge can explain better.
@@IHateYourDeck Ohh okay, interesting. Thank you!
So, Goad says 2 things:
1. The creature has to attack each combat if able
2. The creature can't attack whoever goaded it, if able
Those two steps are looked at in that order. First it checks if it can attack (is it untapped? Does it have any effects that directly say it can't attack?), and in this case, there was nothing stopping it from being a legal attacker. As a result, the condition of "has to attack" will be enforced.
Then, you look at who it can attack. In this case, all opponents have goaded the creature. As a result in each check of it being goaded, it's not able to attack either of the other opponents. So in all 3 goads, the 2nd condition is unable to be met, so the 2nd condition doesn't apply.
Basically, when each goad at that point just says "It can attack, so it has to attack. It can't attack my opponents, so it can attack me". But since that's the perspective from all 3 opponents, the result is that it can attack any of them
@@SethB93 this is the correct explanation. It's pretty complicated, so thank you for explaining it so well!
This was a very fun game. Keep up the great work lynch and I’ll catch ya on the flippity !
I Hate My Friends should be the title for this episode
Larry: "Big stuff to say from a 1/1".
Freaking Larry man, lol
Glad to have found yall a few months ago watching the prof come on. Great work on your editing/audio and better every day.
Lynch dying to his own Commander is hilarious! Great game!
Fletching is putting the feathers on the end of an arrow to make it fly straight. hence the burning feathers on the arrow in his art :3
Lots of fun interaction with Bad Santa, fun political mechanics with the table
I see that sneaky thought vessel still in play after Farewell ;) Ironically thought I believe Larry always had at least one mana open every turn even when he used it haha. I could personally care less about little mistakes like that but I noticed it because my fiance always puts her artifact mana with lands and I always forget about them because of that lol. Loved this episode btw, and that Jon commander, opens up some silly interactions and diplomacy.
Fletchers are the ones making the arrows, the act of putting an arrow on the string of a bow to prepare to shoot is called nocking an arrow
Simple production but such a high product
need a game with Chris, Larry and Ryan (from Magic Arcanum) for a true moustache battle
I'm watching and enjoying each episode no matter who appears in, but boy... Larry really brings the spice!
Hands down, best episode yet!!
Larry's tutu joke didn't get enough recognition
Poor lynch got betrayed. Rest in dip potato chip.
I swear Lynch is so unlucky with Mana crypts. He should just take them out of his decks.
When Lynch poops himself over the Lotus play. Gorgeous :D
So when they passed Jon around didn't it gain goaded for each player and therefore couldn't attack anyone if it went to Larry?
Every Larry episode is an interesting adventure in Magic.
The audacity in this game is astounding.
I love it.
NICE CONTENT, CAUGHT MYSELF WATCHING FOR A WHILE!😁
A fletcher actually makes arrows, the flights (feathers) on an arrow are called fetchings lmao
glad someone finally said it.
wouldn't Jon Irenicus be goaded by everyone at some point and be unable to attack? Judge! - i'm confused
A judge told us it’s a replacement effect. So only one person gets the goad effect. This was talked about while filming. Magic isn’t easy. But that’s now it was explained. I’m sure a judge here can explain it better.
@@IHateYourDeck ah cool. I understand. Thanks for the reply!
If a creature is goaded: 1. they have to attack if able. 2. They have to attack someone other than those who it was goaded by (if able). If it was goaded by everyone it still has to attack but it can now attack anyone.
@@IHateYourDeck It's not a replacement effect. It's a continuous effect that goads the creature by the person handing it off. It can be goaded by more than one player at a time.
701.38c: A creature can be goaded by multiple players. Doing so creates additional combat requirements.
But! Since it was goaded and had to attack, and was goaded by each player it could attack, then the attacks were still legal (since it wasn't able to attack a player it wasn't goaded by)
@@IHateYourDeck According the the Comprehensive Rules "701.38c A creature can be goaded by multiple players. Doing so creates additional combat requirements."
So goading is not a replacement effect. Multiple players can goad a single creature meaning it can't attack each player it has been goaded by.
I lost to Voidwalker exiling my entire library to use half of thoracle to win the game... It was pretty fun : )
Fletching is the feathers or fins on the back of an arrow that prevents it from tumbling when released
A Fletcher would be the one who would prepare and tie the fletchings
I feel like Lynch's fate was justice for him complaining about other people's start when he played a mana crypt before he even played a land. Also, so bizarre to have a $200 card in your deck (albeit a proxy) and a 1/1 for 1 in the same deck haha, surely so many better cards to put in than that haha.
Saw Larry's deck and wanted to do something similar that steals commanders only to research back grounds and they affect commanders you own, not commanders you control so Lynch should have taken less from fis own commander.
Also not a judge, but goaf doesn't prevent a creature from attacking whomever goaded it, it just forces it to attack elsewhere if it can, once it can't attack elsewhere (because there are no other players, or because it is goaded by everyone it can attack anyone). Even if unintentionally they played Goaded correctly.
14:38 fletching is the craft of making arrows
That's some complicated goading situation.
701.38c A creature can be goaded by multiple players. Doing so creates additional combat requirements.
To me that sounds like it could attack anyone again after it went all the way around, since it needs to attack another player if able. It wasn't able, due to goading, which opened it up again to attack anyone. My interpretation, though. I'm not a judge 🤷
Well, goad still has the idea you cannot attack the player goaded by. Since the goad is permanent as it never left the field. As it got passed around the first pass was it cannot attack Lynch when under Seans control. It could not attack Sean or Larry under John's control. It could not attack John under Larry's control. I think that would all be there. So under Sean it could attack Larry or John. Under Sean it could ONLY attack Lynch. Under Larry it could attack Lynch or Sean. Under Lynch it goes back into his deck for another game...😂
I think that is how it would work, but not sure as I have never seen a situation like this. If able still doesn't beat out the fact it cannot target the one that goaded it.
@@MrReaperHand goad doesn't wear off when it's passed though. So it was actually goaded by multiple people at the same time.
Yes, Jon was goaded. Since everyone had gifted him means there was no one he could attack. Yet Jon must attack making everyone targetable.
To be fair, the background should proc only on owned commanders, not controlled commanders. Supercool game nonetheless
Scary Larry is legit my favorite
I wanna play on the next episode...help you guys smash on my buddy Larry
What up V!
Unstable footing didn't need to be kicked to kill Larry!
Oh hallar and esior that's exciting : D
Sean's super cool dude
I feel like Larry needs his own entrance music
Fucking amazing game, chubby checker could not do twists like these. Ill give it back to you "when you die"
hello i love your show i just want to ask you a question what is the the app that you use to count lif3 grettings from Chile
Carbon
Jons my favorite deck rn
9:23 i feel that dawg.... I feel that...
What app do you guys use to track life totals?
Carbon
@@IHateYourDeck Thanks for replying. Tried looking that up in the Play store and only found a nutrition app by that name. Is it only for iphone users?
@@blaze556922 it's on Google play as well
real fun vids !
on a side not, im happy that this channel get's almost double the view's of the "other"channel even if he/they invite Post and whoever ;)
Doesn’t the flaming fist count when Larry attacks with Jon? Wasn’t Lynch dead?
Lynch, I'm begging you man, just one game where I don't see the Mana Vault do you in.
Actually Larry could not have entered "The Undercity" by taking the initiative - Undercity clearly states: You can’t enter this dungeon unless you “venture into Undercity.”
''Whenever one or more creatures a player controls deals combat damage to you, that player takes the initiative. Whenever you take initiative and at the beginning of your upkeep, venture into Undercity.''
Didn't realize there was a Dimir Slicer list out there lmaooo
Dangg I really dig Larry's voltron-style deck! Do you guys have a decklist for that?
Man, what a bad way to get KO’d. Gotta be so clear with wording in deals 😕
I build decks like Larry. I play like Larry. I laugh at his jokes. Hell, it seems I have the same age. Yet somehow, he's better than me at all of that...
Wait... i know there is always that guy in the comments but isn't a creature that is goaded for the rest of the game towards a player still unable to attack that player? Leaving lynch's commander unable to attack anyone that has had him under their control?
Larry absolutely worm tongue ing his way into getting triton shorestalker.