I'm glad that you're exploring ideas of symmetry, etc. I listen to Messaien and Coltrane. But it would benefit if you were to Turn on an instrument, maybe a keyboard but a guitar would do. And illustrate the chordal forms that you're getting to. Lean back from the camera rather than right into it. Then use the zoom feature. This is a trick from photographers to keep perspective realistic and avoid odd soap bubble lens effects. I am a theoretician who has in the past been able to generate the dog with slanted head look in my students. I learn to back up and simplify when that occurs. As some have pointed out, Perfect intervals such as 4 and 5 are referred to as 'diminished' when they're flatted, not minor.
What this guy said. This is the first of your vids I have seen. The title drew me in, but the video didn't show me what I came here for, which was MUSIC...
Apparently some have pointed out that 4ths & 5ths when flatted are diminished, not minor. Nevertheless you get the point across. Interesting stuff!! Glad I came across this video, and will be checking out more. Liked & subscribed.
When working from The Cycle 0f Fourth and Fifths there is only clockwise; which is major and anti-clockwise which is minor. Remember this is the foundation that Pythagoras presented to us so, both augmented and diminished were introduced to the system later on. Thanks for your comment...be well!!!
very interesting. love the enthusiasm! you should do it again with guitar plugged in & neck visible. after that it would need to be editing with pictures to show the concepts. But that's a whole ballgame of its own; "how to make professional videos" 😄. Maybe you'd rather play your guitar. I know I would.
@@onesdrones3000 It's okay! I don't always make scripts when I do a video. sometimes I just wing it. But this seemed a little oh... I don't know. Kind of confusing about what your main point was. But I did understand you trying to explain the augmented chords and how you can change each of the 3 notes into maj or min chords. That happens with dim 7 chords too. Decrease any of the 4 notes, you get a dom 7. Pretty cool stuff!!! Thx.
Are you related to Nelly? I love your enthusiasm man! Explain it to me like I’m 10 years old and budget more time. Perfection should not be rushed. Thank you so much for making these videos without which I could never know.Best to you man.
Here is an explanation in a video from three years ago. if you follow my four videos you will start to see it!!! th-cam.com/video/454lE0pdo6k/w-d-xo.html
I love how passionate you are, and you definitely know a lot more than me, but I'd caution just about anyone from looking for underlying patterns inside a geometrically perfect image. Patterns in wild chaotic nature, absolutely. Patterns inside a geometric grid of 12 variables though? Please keep making videos man, I reckon you have so much to share.
A. Play the guitar through a cab. B. Play the scales. C. Explain what you played. D. Watch your finished clip and ask yourself if a practicing musician could grasp what you’re trying to express. Plenty of us geeks will give you the time, but you have to make sure you’re communicating and demonstrating clearly. E. Provide an example where what you’re presenting can actually be applied in a musical context. The enthusiasm is appreciated. Not being able to hear the instrument, trying to make sense of what you’re actually excited about and trying to be figure out how to apply this to music is not. Peace!
Thanks for your comments. This was a very quick video just to throw the concept out there. I'll show the application in another video. Enjoy your day!!!
Re "25 letters in the alphabet": it's more appropriate to view it as a compression spring viewed from the side, and from the front. The side view will show octaves; as the rotating vector climbs thru the spring, you'll see the 'dot' travels forward as it rotates. From front view, it will look like an analog clock (no jumps between semitones; there is continual movement. And pitch classes will be visited on the way around, like your minute hand landing on the numbers. Due to the fact that you are also monitoring the octave via side view, there is no need to add in an arbitrary construct to count "C" twice or however many times. In your method, there would be an infinite number of notes, cause the clock keeps rotating. In the spring analogy, 'dot' keeps winding around the front view of the spring while the side view illustrates octave. I've illustrated this to students using a flashlight. Move the flashlight in a circle facing them. Simple enough. Then turn sideways and move the flashlight in a circle while walking laterally. That's the more apt analogy of the larger picture, encompassing octaves. And it does look like a sine wave, of course, with the mathematical construct for a sine illustrating both at once. Nothing wrong with mysticism as long as it conforms to physics. :-)
Excellent!!! I do kind of think like your analogy, meaning that I don't just look at "The Cycle 0f Fifths from just the clock face. I also see it from the side as a spiral. The notes are the steps of a spiral staircase. The keys with sharps rising up and the flat keys traveling in the opposite direction. In this instance the note "C" is the midpoint on a spiral staircase. Cheap shot would be to say stairway to heaven, or highway to hell ha ha!!! Your comment really lifted my mood, or mode ha ha!! Enjoy your day...be well!!!
@@onesdrones3000 Yeah, the system might be simplified by avoiding double flats, etc. This is important when in musical context, like Neapolitan 6ths, etc (double-flatted 7th illustrates context), but in pure physics/psychoacoustics double-accidentals have less function. BTW, the 'step back and use zoom' trick is also used by artists to avoid subjects looking like they have large noses, or when the model is pointing forward or backward. The foreshortening effect is determined as a percentage of total distance from the photographer/artist. So more distance (plus zoom) looks more natural. I do appreciate that you're doing videos like this, so I hope that you continue, perhaps with piano or guitar to illustrate.
It's great to analyze these things, but I think your over playing it a bit. The human ear is capable of tolerating error variation in pitch accuracy. You should check out formants and how vocalists need to 'tune' or manipulate formants for tuning when creating vocal harmonies. Added to which, humans learn to acquire the language of sounds so what sounds intolerable to one sounds tolerable acceptable or better to another. You can basically make up new scales tunings harmonic systems etc and retune someone's ear to understand and like them, much the same way someone can learn to ride a bike with steering that works in reverse.
This is how the brain of an idiot savant works. with practice and guidance I will become a valuable source of Information. You have AI, or me and others like me. Enjoy your day...thanks for your guidance...be well!!!
Thank you very much for this hints.
This system is so interesting.
Very interesting video.
Thank You!!!
I'm glad that you're exploring ideas of symmetry, etc. I listen to Messaien and Coltrane. But it would benefit if you were to
Turn on an instrument, maybe a keyboard but a guitar would do. And illustrate the chordal forms that you're getting to.
Lean back from the camera rather than right into it. Then use the zoom feature. This is a trick from photographers to keep perspective realistic and avoid odd soap bubble lens effects.
I am a theoretician who has in the past been able to generate the dog with slanted head look in my students. I learn to back up and simplify when that occurs.
As some have pointed out, Perfect intervals such as 4 and 5 are referred to as 'diminished' when they're flatted, not minor.
What this guy said. This is the first of your vids I have seen. The title drew me in, but the video didn't show me what I came here for, which was MUSIC...
Very interesting love how your getting the message over
Your comment is very encouraging thank you!!!
would love to hear more about messiean trying to get my head into that space
Thank you, great info!
Cheers! Be well!!!
You can make long videos man. No one is stopping you.
Apparently some have pointed out that 4ths & 5ths when flatted are diminished, not minor. Nevertheless you get the point across. Interesting stuff!! Glad I came across this video, and will be checking out more. Liked & subscribed.
When working from The Cycle 0f Fourth and Fifths there is only clockwise; which is major and anti-clockwise which is minor. Remember this is the foundation that Pythagoras presented to us so, both augmented and diminished were introduced to the system later on. Thanks for your comment...be well!!!
very interesting. love the enthusiasm! you should do it again with guitar plugged in & neck visible. after that it would need to be editing with pictures to show the concepts. But that's a whole ballgame of its own; "how to make professional videos" 😄. Maybe you'd rather play your guitar. I know I would.
I've been there and done just that. No one can follow it. This is from three years ago. th-cam.com/video/454lE0pdo6k/w-d-xo.html
you know, you could make an OUTLINE of your points and get it down before filming. Just an idea!
I agree, but I'm trying to be spontaneous like jazz improve. Thanks for your comment...enjoy your day...be well!!!
@@onesdrones3000 It's okay! I don't always make scripts when I do a video. sometimes I just wing it. But this seemed a little oh... I don't know. Kind of confusing about what your main point was. But I did understand you trying to explain the augmented chords and how you can change each of the 3 notes into maj or min chords. That happens with dim 7 chords too. Decrease any of the 4 notes, you get a dom 7. Pretty cool stuff!!! Thx.
Are you related to Nelly? I love your enthusiasm man! Explain it to me like I’m 10 years old and budget more time. Perfection should not be rushed. Thank you so much for making these videos without which I could never know.Best to you man.
Who??? Nelly The Elephant??? No, I'm not related that I know of. Thanks for your encouragement...be well!!!
@@onesdrones3000 no this Nelly …. th-cam.com/video/5vvfwiOgUBA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0g4qBHAqks689Jej.
I'm not sure I get what you're saying but I do want to understand it. I should probably write it down
Oh wait, you wrote it in the description! I think I get it now!
I will keep coming back with new videos to try and explain the topic from fresh perspectives. Thanks for your comments. Be well!!!
liked!
Here is an explanation in a video from three years ago. if you follow my four videos you will start to see it!!! th-cam.com/video/454lE0pdo6k/w-d-xo.html
I love how passionate you are, and you definitely know a lot more than me, but I'd caution just about anyone from looking for underlying patterns inside a geometrically perfect image. Patterns in wild chaotic nature, absolutely. Patterns inside a geometric grid of 12 variables though?
Please keep making videos man, I reckon you have so much to share.
Cheers!!! Be well!!!
Nice scale ! Can you write the notes in comments ??
From what I saw and heard Oliver Messian's 3rd mode: {E F# G G# A# B C D# E}.
th-cam.com/video/454lE0pdo6k/w-d-xo.html
A. Play the guitar through a cab. B. Play the scales. C. Explain what you played. D. Watch your finished clip and ask yourself if a practicing musician could grasp what you’re trying to express. Plenty of us geeks will give you the time, but you have to make sure you’re communicating and demonstrating clearly. E. Provide an example where what you’re presenting can actually be applied in a musical context.
The enthusiasm is appreciated. Not being able to hear the instrument, trying to make sense of what you’re actually excited about and trying to be figure out how to apply this to music is not. Peace!
Thanks for your comments. This was a very quick video just to throw the concept out there. I'll show the application in another video. Enjoy your day!!!
Re "25 letters in the alphabet": it's more appropriate to view it as a compression spring viewed from the side, and from the front. The side view will show octaves; as the rotating vector climbs thru the spring, you'll see the 'dot' travels forward as it rotates.
From front view, it will look like an analog clock (no jumps between semitones; there is continual movement. And pitch classes will be visited on the way around, like your minute hand landing on the numbers. Due to the fact that you are also monitoring the octave via side view, there is no need to add in an arbitrary construct to count "C" twice
or however many times. In your method, there would be an infinite number of notes, cause the clock keeps rotating. In the spring analogy, 'dot' keeps winding around the front view of the spring while the side view illustrates octave.
I've illustrated this to students using a flashlight. Move the flashlight in a circle facing them. Simple enough.
Then turn sideways and move the flashlight in a circle while walking laterally. That's the more apt analogy of the larger picture, encompassing octaves. And it does look like a sine wave, of course, with the mathematical construct for a sine illustrating both at once.
Nothing wrong with mysticism as long as it conforms to physics. :-)
Excellent!!! I do kind of think like your analogy, meaning that I don't just look at "The Cycle 0f Fifths from just the clock face. I also see it from the side as a spiral. The notes are the steps of a spiral staircase. The keys with sharps rising up and the flat keys traveling in the opposite direction. In this instance the note "C" is the midpoint on a spiral staircase. Cheap shot would be to say stairway to heaven, or highway to hell ha ha!!! Your comment really lifted my mood, or mode ha ha!! Enjoy your day...be well!!!
@@onesdrones3000 Yeah, the system might be simplified by avoiding double flats, etc. This is important when in musical context, like Neapolitan 6ths, etc (double-flatted 7th illustrates context), but in pure physics/psychoacoustics double-accidentals have less function.
BTW, the 'step back and use zoom' trick is also used by artists to avoid subjects looking like they have large noses, or when the model is pointing forward or backward. The foreshortening effect is determined as a percentage of total distance from the photographer/artist. So more distance (plus zoom) looks more natural.
I do appreciate that you're doing videos like this, so I hope that you continue, perhaps with piano or guitar to illustrate.
@@stringtheoryx Thanks for the tips and encouragement. Enjoy your day!!!
No such things as m4th or m5th, but the rest is OK.
Stop overthinking and just play something that sounds nice!
Don't you find music theory fascinating?
My job is to overthink, give it to you proper musician's to make some new fresh maybe nice music with. thanks for your comment.
It's great to analyze these things, but I think your over playing it a bit. The human ear is capable of tolerating error variation in pitch accuracy. You should check out formants and how vocalists need to 'tune' or manipulate formants for tuning when creating vocal harmonies. Added to which, humans learn to acquire the language of sounds so what sounds intolerable to one sounds tolerable acceptable or better to another. You can basically make up new scales tunings harmonic systems etc and retune someone's ear to understand and like them, much the same way someone can learn to ride a bike with steering that works in reverse.
It would be nice if you played the scale it would help
plug yer guitar in
very interesting too bad no sound on your instrument, and why didnt u show it first in C like any teacher would???
Because I am not like any other teacher, I am a student that needs to have others to share with. Thank you for engaging. Enjoy Your day...be well!!!
I'm sure your intentions were good, but your presentation is all over the place, ridiculous.
This is how the brain of an idiot savant works. with practice and guidance I will become a valuable source of Information. You have AI, or me and others like me. Enjoy your day...thanks for your guidance...be well!!!